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get the dig at hu tao (makes sense to me, it's an inconsistency) but overall marked difference in vibes from last game, willing to wait and see more, for now)
the claim from fl, seems like a fl move, no comment,, worst is a signal, a scum move, just to noteIn post 77, jjh927 wrote: I'm gonna say Hu Tao reacted on instinct in a way that is more likely to come from town
Drew looks town off of it to me for similar reasons
Una is putting in some effort but not getting anything off of it yet
Gera looks like someone who will be very easy for me to place later despite not giving substantial contentIn post 80, jjh927 wrote: I think drew interacting with it genuinely rather than shitposting is @town for drewkek no xD
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thinking back, maybe flavour wouldn’t be so on the nose with a signal,, the lack of thought/backtrack was clumsy xD can see it as a classic fl move done thoughtlessly,, lean town
but this is still scummy
i.e: sounds like a whole lot of saying something to look like something even though it points out nothing about no one in particular xDIn post 77, jjh927 wrote: I'm gonna say Hu Tao reacted on instinct in a way that is more likely to come from town
Drew looks town off of it to me for similar reasons
Una is putting in some effort but not getting anything off of it yet
Gera looks like someone who will be very easy for me to place later despite not giving substantial content
marcistar has Hu Tao vibes from last game) iykyk, although more in your face so a little unsure how much is personality
remember disliking before, its still bothering me now
can go there, jv’s caught on too,, that was a good post
liking jv, bulge, off the top of my head
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ehh dozing off
skimming, jjhs super scum, to me xD
doubt I’ll get it but imma persist, worked last time
jjh
marcie, roden,, maybe
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good times xDIn post 368, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i got you. Hu Tao is town here.In post 361, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I think Hu Tao is actually a difficult person for me to read as I always end up TRing them (small sample size) but I would say Drew here nonetheless. Not sure why you're asking this, nor why you're asking me but there you go.In post 359, UnaBombaH wrote: @Jackson - if you'd humor me for a moment - if you were told that there's one scum in Drew/Hu Tao guaranteed, which would you lean on being scum based on this early game?
I get pinged so hard at times when Hu tao is scum.
leaning the same, on the analysis of Hu Tao
glad to get reassurance
svs?In post 371, jjh927 wrote:
Are you actually trying to understand what I'm doing with geraintm or whatIn post 363, marcistar wrote: IT BURNS
og this morning i was gonna say i dont understand the una susses, iirc they said they dont like flavor giving them a free tr whixh made me think "theyre town because what scum would COMPLAIN about this"
But then i read the "all the lurkers is scum" just now and its like... what? I dont think in a game like this we would be that lucky
In addition to this, ive also found a few of jjhs recents useless (ie: the "finding people we trust", its useless because hes pushing that responsibility onto everyone else instead of pushing forward options himself
omg stop!!In post 374, marcistar wrote:
After this post u didnt post againIn post 356, jjh927 wrote: For the first stop on our journey, let's find some town. If we take some people out of the POE, our rate of finding scum will go up just by picking a name out of a hat.
Can you think of anyone who seems to have expressed reads that go against the grain without any commonality or overlap with the rest of the game and its state as a whole?
Tell me where what i said is
100%?!?! how is it so high?! unless…In post 406, jjh927 wrote: Do you want to bounce some ideas then? I think Nono is 100% town here on the grounds that they have taken a very unique stance within the gamestate, despite ultimately being wrong. This was my canned answer to the question I asked geraintm
jk jk, but no, kind of seriously
the self-case was also lowkey scummy
not the action, the execution
prefer not to elaborate, but will if need to
jjh/marci, I’ll bite (don’t inflate my ego, I’ll get nervous, but I’m putting my money there)
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playing catch up, please bear with)
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bulge is pretty towny, no?? imo at least
agreeing with their posts, jjh’s confidence, read on predecessor-dan
the last makes me think,, look at scum tao’s posts from last game, tell me they ain’t the same,, the predecessor’s just the icing on the cake
dan’s a good move)
to comment on gera, he’s not really scummy!
towny, eh wouldn’t go that far,, he’s just himself, like me
jjh,, still pending
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how does it work,,, i said his move was towny, what’s positioning? commenting on it?In post 1026, Dannflor wrote:nono, im curious why you assumed i interpreted your read on FL as a scum read
or rather why do you think that scum would be more likely to push FL in the aftermath of his miller claim
saying a townie is towny as scum > position > ??? > profit?? xD
anyway if you think I play seriously or consistency, I got news kek
seeing latest page: bulge is the leading wagon
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on the same page as this)In post 983, The Bulge wrote:
there weren't a lot of xegarus posts to go off of, i haven't really gone and made any cases this game my catching up has been pretty linear. so more content = more comments, ie not proportional to the strength of my readIn post 678, Dannflor wrote:
bulge why was my slot worse than JV in your estimationIn post 641, The Bulge wrote: atm i like roden, hu tao, drew for town
una im on the fence
jackson still leaning scum but i think xegarus is worse
10ish more pages but ive got nothing going on at work this morning
I see a lot of words put towards your scum read on JV but I don't really know why you scum read me
105 is really bad. it reads to me like scum who is having a hard time faking scumreads and so picks a fight over nonsense and goes all in too early.
adding the fact dan is pulling a scum!tao move from last game, has me feeling good about it
know it’s a repeat, but nothing has changed, happy to park
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oh didn’t read this, seeing what you mean nowIn post 1080, Dannflor wrote:
if there is a traitor in this game, this post feels town indicative for geraint. or at the very least not group scumIn post 68, geraintm wrote:
You are a better player than me, but after reading the other posts on why there is a miller in the game I think you should have known better than to make that claim as town.In post 66, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Nope.In post 64, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 62, jjh927 wrote: That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?
I am actually in agreement with JJh here.In post 63, jjh927 wrote:
Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.In post 56, marcistar wrote: I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller
Flavor, did you think about there being a traitor in this game before you claimed miller?
I put like 3% thought into the Miller claim.
I just feel in the scenario that there is a traitor there is a nonzero chance that scum would see FL claiming miller at the start of the game, meme or not, and think “hey, that’s our miller”
that’s kind of why i think scum might be slightly more likely to take a neutral to positive stance on Flavor Leaf a la Nono
geraint’s response feels a little too on the nose in that case
fyi, said it was lean scum at first
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bad move(
haven’t played with dan but heard things
based on assumptions, this is not what I expect, the logics off
can’t make y’all change, he’s slippery, formidable, I’ll give it to him, but gonna say I told you so,, almost sure of it /shrug
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really?? thought the “clearly town” at e-1 was townyIn post 1317, Flavor Leaf wrote: Hu Tao moving off of Bulge before Drew hammering is highly indicative of ScumTao regardless of Bulge wagon, tbh.
They jumped it. That was big Scum Tao energy.
VOTE: Hu Tao
thinking…strangest flash wagon, something feels wrong
why is it so hard to get Dan omg!!
he’s flailing!! look at him kek xD
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on mobile,, things happening in personal life, it’s been hard,, sorry sorry, for breaking my promise
just don’t have the strength
based on pivot opinion on me, jjh could still be scum,, first wanting to knight the lhf, a la moi,, then having no choice so pushing me back into the pool (partner reasons?)
dan,, dan, dan, dan,, know the logic players from the jumpy ones when I see them and I see no logic,, saying something that could be scummy, but wrong focus because that’s not what’s more likely to happen,, because he’s scum tryna push
jjh/dan, feels like that atm-
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this is so towny, come on xDIn post 1522, Hu Tao wrote: I pray to you're somehow scum this game, Una. Because if not, hopefully you'll reevaluate how you play in the future when you see I'm town. You're not even trying to see a world where I'm town or seeing other possibilities which clouds your vision. I don't think I see scum doing that though which makes me sad.
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@mod, can scum multitask
so much to unpack, thinking rn…
fl’s right,, marci’s claim not watertight, ref to loyal,, marci’s stubbornness/not getting it is off
better to leave her for now though,, scum neighboriser isn’t a biggie, drew/marci too weird (drew’s town now, agree), big help if she’s real, let her do her thing,, think about her tomorrow, the day after, w/e, maybe
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sorry to be stubborn, call me naive,, feels regrettable: “I’m a loyal neighbouriser”,, everyone: *speedlims*
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wait xD easy game VOTE: obvscum fireIn post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.-
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im fine with massclaim,, maybe today is the time. let me catch up first though, give few hours, busy atm, ty ty
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thinking fire/dann
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jigs up i guess)In post 2459, Hu Tao wrote: Okay then. I don't have time to really argue like I usually do, so I'll just claim. I'm a Mason
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xDIn post 2432, The Bulge wrote:
"hey its me , the mailmanIn post 2323, Dannflor wrote:In post 1958, Doctor Drew wrote:
Umm no, just the messageIn post 1957, marcistar wrote: umm!! yeah that was someone else!
are you sure you don't have anything else?? haha!
drew says this before any mention of a hood from marciIn post 1959, Doctor Drew wrote:
Well we are in a hood nowIn post 1958, Doctor Drew wrote:
Umm no, just the messageIn post 1957, marcistar wrote: umm!! yeah that was someone else!
are you sure you don't have anything else?? haha!
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Dann traitor, fire scum fmpov thenIn post 2369, Doctor Drew wrote:
Lol, I didn't want to claim unless I know we are doing the thing.In post 2364, Flavor Leaf wrote: they are softing some type of result too, might as well just outright it.
Town Informed Neighbor N1 PT Cop/N2 Traitor Finder
The informed part is obviously that there is a traitor in the game.
Dann is not in a PT, Una is not the Traitor.
Hu Tao, your turn
we’ll do whichever you guys want
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fire!scum pushing town unah, dan!scum pushing town bulge,, scum can’t bus today because it confirms me and hu tao-
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to note: n1 pt cop is before neighbourising,, drew should’ve used his power to investigate one person, not in a pt and not traitor is a full clear, at least I would’ve done
geras slot is tricky sure, but worse in front of our noses: backup mailman + especially loyal babysitter doesn’t even fit into the theme xD
never letting one of those get away for towny-seeming(? imo)-gera
swaying the conversation back, want to make the right decision,, my best bud and my lives are on the line)
hu tao said it was a joke, others treat it as a joke,, me? unsure if so, or massive scum slip xDIn post 2304, Nono wrote: wait xD easy game VOTE: obvscum fireIn post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.
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just came into thread, saw this: noIn post 2676, Doctor Drew wrote: Ok Lim me, town is in a good spot anyways despite you being wrong here and not just accepting the most simple solution
Pre Edit:. Frustrating to me when I know that all leads to a bad solve on me though.
I will vote Bulge if it is down to me and me.
I feel Insm probably taking my frustrations out on you s bit(and maybe from that other game a few weeks ago as well lol)
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ok ok,, accept the quote, my bad xDIn post 2573, Firebringer wrote:In post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.In post 228, JacksonVirgo wrote:
It was a reference of my favourite setup design I’ve made yetIn post 226, The Bulge wrote:
i actually dont hate this theoryIn post 214, Hu Tao wrote:
Found the traitorIn post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: I'm actually a Informed Macho Cop-Enabler Miller and I'm informed that the Mafia know that my role exists.
like here is jackson explaining the joke for you Nono.
overall: true, paranoia setting in, but rational mind says it's not that hard
i'll take the chance of sure scum in fire/dan,, if wrong, at most one, ggwp otherwise
personally lean dann,, for claim reasons, play reasons (earlier push reflective of scum!tao/scum angled push, bad intentions, w/e)
disagree with fl writing off dann for claim?? at very best not bad, not good (bad imo xD)
just remembered: dann softed d1, he's still here,, how do scum know he's not a threat?
fls town, drews town, stop fighting
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una, that’s terrible/In post 2776, UnaBombaH wrote: VOTE: nono
I'm just bored.
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meh what can I say?
believe in vibes,, vibes is intuition, intuition is queen where logic is king)
logic: like hu tao said, vote one of us if there’s 5 and no scum dead,, we’ve tied ourselves together, if scum, we auto lose,, what are you worried about
if town (we are), we’ll hit scum before, almost certain
logic: fypov, if we’re scum,, everyone else is telling the truth, so, what is this setup xD loyal babysitter, half cop, mailmen/neighbour does nothing
intuition: Drew’s claim makes sense, works with concept,, neighbourhoods, chance for fake guilty
all other claims, dubious, isn’t critical
if conservative, scum in una, fire, dan, fl, gert, bulge
intuition: highly doubt gert, top tr, with drew
fl, una, bulge
fire, dan
imo, it’s fire/dan,, if wrong, unlikely to be wrong on both (one bottom, one middle?)
but I’ll take my chances, 1/2 vs 1/3)
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expressed interest/scumreads, no?In post 2826, Flavor Leaf wrote: why does Fire, as scum, not go for any of the wagons that get presented?
intuition: still townread bulges play,, effort not high but thought processes are sound, thought the same as them, often
vanilla claim at the time, goodIn post 225, The Bulge wrote: jackson did a scum catchupso true,, and call out first post? fire!anti-partner unlikely
dan!anti-partner too, source: whole iso
if wrong, so sorry, but I’m fighting to save them)
intuition: fl’s play is annoying, but, can’t deny, towny,, hesitation in going for dan today, throughout game,, very tinfoil, they’re scum unwilling to bus before and for today,, was Marci a sacrifice? to test the theory, we go dan
fire also doesn’t go dan, una instead,, partner reads show dan as scum
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In post 2825, Nono wrote: meh what can I say?
believe in vibes,, vibes is intuition, intuition is queen where logic is king)
logic: like hu tao said, vote one of us if there’s 5 and no scum dead,, we’ve tied ourselves together, if scum, we auto lose,, what are you worried about
if town (we are), we’ll hit scum before, almost certain
logic: fypov, if we’re scum,, everyone else is telling the truth, so, what is this setup xD loyal babysitter, half cop, mailmen/neighbour does nothing
intuition: Drew’s claim makes sense, works with concept,, neighbourhoods, chance for fake guilty
all other claims, dubious, isn’t critical
if conservative, scum in una, fire, dan, fl, gert, bulge
intuition: highly doubt gert, top tr, with drew
fl, una, bulge
fire, dan
imo, it’s fire/dan,, if wrong, unlikely to be wrong on both (one bottom, one middle?)
but I’ll take my chances, 1/2 vs 1/3)
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sorry sorry, delete previous post,,
townslip??In post 2838, Titus wrote: Just saw the first page...why the fuck would scum ever use that?-
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drew’s town traitor,, I know, it’s sad, but I believe he believes in it x( fl too
terribleIn post 2927, UnaBombaH wrote: All of this has lead me to think that while my read on Drew has started to lean town more as the days go by, flipping them might give us the most useful info?
We'd be 100% certain there's a Traitor remaining, we'd have their results confirmed, and we'd get a solid peek at what the setup looks like really.
Thoughts?
una falling lower every day( think he’s taking advantage of town traitors
like “info”?? what???
you’ve already said it and refuted it yourselfIn post 2936, Flavor Leaf wrote: can we just kill Nono and confirm masons today and then deal with the battle royale of the rest of us minus one tomorrow?
Dann should always be on Hu Tao if Nono flips town, forcing Dann to be killed if Hu Tao is to be.
what if dans scum (likely)
consider, you lim me, he “babysits” hu tao, someone else dies, e.g gert,, then what? back to square 1,, what’s achieved? nothing
in what world can’t you trust us until 5p, if we’re still here, I’ll lay down and die, you have my word
not even considering the setup!
the liars are outside of us, and imho, drew,, without us and him, the setup fails,, that’s the only conclusion of setup spec
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they’re town traitors, rare role…In post 2939, Hu Tao wrote: I think scum is in fire Drew FL now
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if so, then why are you still in “flipping for info” stage, or replying to me?In post 2967, UnaBombaH wrote:
It does not matter to me "how low" you rank me, unless you come up with a reasonable solution where I am in your "bottom 2 with someone". Right?In post 2941, Nono wrote: una falling lower every day( think he’s taking advantage of town traitors
Time for tiered readlists is more or less over for me, considering the amount of players who can be/are likely just paired together.
thinking una/dan/fireIn post 2940, Hu Tao wrote: Think fire should go first
fire/una seems unlikely, fire wanted una today
una/dan
fire/dan
?fl/dan?
dans better,, dans scum in all
there’s one scum, one traitor, it’s the same
thoughts?
still believe in town traitor!drew, trust,, meditate
as for fl, probably but not as sure, confidence waning
rationally, it’s probably just annoyance speaking
if there’s a need, I’ll settle for fire, but seems like there’s a long way to go before settlement
almost want to side with scum!dan in this traitorous town, least he’s not throwing all logic out the window
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can you let me have fire/dan today
if they are scum, we’re auto confirmed, paranoia sacrifice doesn’t have to happen
if not, and you all insist tomorrow, ill lie down
have my word-
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already amIn post 3128, Flavor Leaf wrote: then vote Dann, make the play.-
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hu tao just vote dan please
i think fl is town
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if you think it’s titus/dan, go dan
have confidence in them myself for own reasons,, just wanna hit scum, clear myself, anything else can come later
and it’s a deal, otherwise why should I lie down tomorrow if my end falls through
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no truer words… others too, it’s a traitorous townIn post 3217, geraintm wrote: Today feels weird, I can't work out why everything Flavour is doing seems based on the idea of what Masons should or should not be doing. It is screwing over things.
“distance” what!In post 3219, UnaBombaH wrote: What I would love to see first though, is nono and Hu Tao committing to a shared read.
They are still split on two targets like scumsters trying to distance from each other, instead of trying to work together WHICH IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE 100% DOING if they are indeed Masons together..right?
if we were scum, that ship has long sailed girl xD
hu tao, if you can get fire, I’ll help, otherwise vote dan please
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try your luck, hu tao VOTE: fire-
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In post 3085, Dannflor wrote: firebringer how do u propose this setup works without the masonsIn post 3086, Dannflor wrote: make it make sense to me
make it make sense to meIn post 3263, Dannflor wrote: I think I'd rather target the masons
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In post 3281, Titus wrote: Meh, I'm fucking done. I don't have the energy to shout down scum in all games.
first reaction, that’s townyIn post 3282, Titus wrote:Vt still.
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y’all told you it was dan omg!! xD
Dan is scum = Hu Tao and I confirmed
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fire/dan for real??
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kek xDIn post 3301, Doctor Drew wrote:
NoNoIn post 3299, Doctor Drew wrote:In post 149, Doctor Drew wrote:
Ahhh! I am the ultimate jackass of all time.In post 103, JacksonVirgo wrote: Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not
2 posts!!!
I won't let this happen again
So I wasn't completely truthful with my claim, I am a JOAT.In post 2578, Doctor Drew wrote: A tracker would have been nice for this night phase if don't nail scum here.
One shot PT Cop, One shot Traitor Finder, One shot Tracker.
I tracked Fire to Flavor last night.
VOTE: Fire
Lol my post was gonna get buried.
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was thinking dan is traitor with either one of youIn post 3304, Doctor Drew wrote: Dann can only be traitor though.
inb4 “roleblocked”, i wont believe it
but maybe we play the right way
I believe you drew)
if it’s fire, it’s just dan caught in a lie
let’s get fire after discussion?-
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OMG dan/fire totally partnered xd
wait-
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dan…
why lie “loyal”?
why target flavour?
why fb scum, to you?
why question drew, turn around: “nahhh fb scum”-
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almost never get to hammer, thanks) VOTE: fire
if drew scum, he wouldn’t have gone through the trouble unless Dan is his partner, specifically,, goal was trying to save him so he goes head to head with fire
but unlikely,, easier explanation is just fire caught by track
dans backtrack isn’t towny, but undoing so just has him caught by track too
tomorrows problem, but its probably Dan either way
night town-
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fire, im insulted, a privilege)
ggwp all, was frustrating at times, but ended on a high
ty for having my back hu tao, good to have you
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