I'm sorry, but saying a conversation looks TvT is meaningless if your read on one of the players is null-Red. Actually, saying a conversation is TvT makes other people want to disregard it as a pointless argument, which this is not. What is your actual read on Road beyond 'could be scum'? Do they look Green motivated to you?
In post 1201, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 1139, MortFeld wrote:One of the few things I agree with you on is that HS has been obvtown posting.
Read this from the perspective of another player. I understand that you were confused and torn on the vote, and still trying to sort my slot out. I saw that. Kamelot didn't. In her eyes, it's just you being on a wagon you read as obvtown. This is where the conversation slipped into argumentative accusations.
I had come up with a big argument to show why this is always a misreading from Road, it only makes ANY sense because Road hasn't read the thread, and that Road's trying to make this into a case is extremely forced - but then I realized that you are being purposefully obtuse here and I don't feel like engaging with it. The conversation did not slip into anything. Read the words without prejudging where each player is coming from. Hint - what type of faction would do this?
So many levels of no. If you want a lynch, you have to vote for it. You are not in a position to sit back and say 'hmmm, which lynch do I like? Is it Road? Or is it ___?' Just that sentence should show why holding your vote until there's a wagon is Red! motivated.
In post 1201, Human Sequencer wrote:
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1153 isn't a misrep, because you've said that exact thing before many times. I'm assuming she read your iso and picked that up at this point, because she was strongly sring you.
It makes perfect sense that Kamelot wouldn't understand your mind and gut having two differing opinions-- Just read her sig. That should explain everything for you.
This one's especially good.
HS' first point
: 1153 isn't a misrep because I've said exactly that many times. Road
actually read my ISO
and discovered it.
HS, are you serious? It is a misrep. Road - Mort has been saying that HS is obvtown. Mort - HS has been making posts that look obvtown. You see the difference? And you see how one is a read, and the other is an observation about recent post content? And you see how Road is absolutely either wrong or misrepping? And you see how one leads to a vote and one leads to questions (such as - Mort, how do you actually feel about HS. Too bad Road didn't ask this and didn't believe/even read my answer)? And you see why a Red player would pick up on little town inconsistencies and disguise them in theory as actual Red behavior? Why on Earth would a Green player refuse to read the thread and decide to vote for me over this, instead of any of the other actual Red candidates? Don't forget they voted Toto and then asked us all to tell THEM why they voted Toto...
HS' second point
: Road's sig should show why they don't believe in a Green gut read and Red head read.
1. that head/gut stuff was a simplification of reasoning I actually explained 2. Road's sig has nothing to do with this situation. In the heat of passion I voted you and Red! read you. In the cold eye of logic, I Red! read you. The more recent struggle I am having was from your pre-Road posts and, while I said it was gut, it's actually logic. More accurate is that you did things that I think would more likely come from Green than Red. But post-Road I am quickly losing faith. It's also hilarious to say 'Of course Green! Road wouldn't understand your thing you said - even their sig explains why!' Why are you defending Road, who should be defending themselves, with reasoning that doesn't even come from the game?
Giving HS this last chance before I start looking at the game through a HS + Road = Red team lens.
Giving Road a chance to read the thread and come back with something that makes sense - if this happens I'll reconsider.