Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3 -endgame

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VOTE: Titus

Dunn is probably scum with Titus who Titus said to bus here because of that hammer and I need two shots to die.

VOTE: Titus

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It is literally the same type of scummy hammer in the game I just got done with her as as scum.

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Will type up more thoughts in the AM.

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sorry, i still think impoetic was town but titus' hammer was random af

Gerry? Really? That hammer was to kill a Town PR. More than likely I am the last one left.

(For the love of all that is holy please don't CC if I am wrong)

You townread Titus? Based on what exactly ignoring the hammer that was pretty much Titus scumclaiming.

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Dunn is probably scum with Titus who Titus said to bus here because of that hammer

I've been pushing that slot the entire game

Yes. Amount of fucks I give about who you have been badly pushing. Zero.

Amount of times I have done the same? A shit ton as scum. Clean sweep.

What matters is how you switch off feels very inauthentic.

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More than likely I am the last one left.

town's prs are a roleblocker, a fruit vendor, and a bulletproof?

Assuming you're legit I'd guess 2 other power roles (probably an investigative and a protective)

I replaced into an already claimed BP slot lol

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More than likely I am the last one left.

town's prs are a roleblocker, a fruit vendor, and a bulletproof?

Assuming you're legit I'd guess 2 other power roles (probably an investigative and a protective)

How about you quit fishing?

How is scum with Titus?

And yes I want to have this conversation preflip.

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At his point I would be surprised if Titus flips scum......

I am thinking maybe
Titus and Gerry * if Titus flip scum but Dunn could be scum as well,
Right now we should lynch Titus and than figure out the scum buddies
afterwords

Why would you be surprised if Titus flips scum?

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More than likely I am the last one left.

town's prs are a roleblocker, a fruit vendor, and a bulletproof?

Assuming you're legit I'd guess 2 other power roles (probably an investigative and a protective)

How about you quit fishing?

How is scum with Titus?

And yes I want to have this conversation preflip.

Who is scum with Titus?*

EBWOP

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What the hell? I leave for school and turn around and I am at L-1??

I hard claim 1-shot BP town.

I was hoping b sitting I would bait the scum team into night killing me.

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I replaced into an already claimed BP slot lol

A quick skim shows me your slot never claimed but ok

I'm pretty clearly not fishing

At his point I would be surprised if Titus flips scum......

I am thinking maybe
Titus and Gerry * if Titus flip scum but Dunn could be scum as well,
Right now we should lynch Titus and than figure out the scum buddies
afterwords

Gerry maybe but Dunn more likely to me.

@TFL99 explain please

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Regarding Dunn it just seems like he jumps off at wrong points like ????? Is the only post and he switches.

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Who is scum with Titus?*

Trivium, momo, boring all good bets

Hell no on a lot of these to me.

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VOTE: impoetic

it's too bad you're mafia though

VOTE: impoetic

it's too bad you're mafia though

and i now scumread this

of course you do

?????????????????????????????????/

surpriSED?

VOTE: Darklyn

I changed my mind

This specific exchange pinged me HARD.

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Why are you quoting gerry's avatar?

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At his point I would be surprised if Titus flips scum......

I am thinking maybe
Titus and Gerry * if Titus flip scum but Dunn could be scum as well,
Right now we should lynch Titus and than figure out the scum buddies
afterwords

Why Titus and Gerry?
Why not talk possible teams now?

If Titus flips Town (which there is no way I think Titus makes that hammer as Town)
We have the thought processes of those suggestions accessible

And if she flips scum we can analyze that overnight.

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A) I like to talk aloud so sometimes so what I say don't make sense or often doesn't make sense to others
B) I don't like coupling before a lynch...it is just something I usually don't do.......it often leads to mislynches

I said Gerry bc he seems to be defending her, I think I am getting ahead of myself which I often do, Right now we need to focus on Titus. Do we let her live for a while and hope she scum slips on who her scum buddies are but risk her sliming her way out
or do we just burn her with fire and just use what we have

Never ever let a sure thing scum go through your grasp for a maybe. That is like saying "We have a mod confirm Titus is scum...Do we lynch maybe town???" Fuck no.

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she literally slipped as town tho. like. she said she scumread me for something, then lied about it. and tried to cover it up. why would town do that. lmao

Contradictions are scummy but not slips.
You also have to keep in mind pride and gaslighting yourself.

People do these things naturally.

For example in post games people say "Person was obvTown" when they were wavering before being spoiled.

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I'm not sure about Titus yet. I'm not sure about Dunnstral yet. I'm not sure about Mathblade yet.

I can't help but think that if Hapahauli was dead wrong about everyone, scum would have kept him alive to make more wrong, but convincing cases.

VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99

Of the people yesterday who were okay with lynching Fuzzy, Hapa was by far the towniest and most convincing.

So I am wrong on one of Dunn or Gerry likely. This post is ugly.

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So many words so little time.

Will read later.

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Titus has a virus causing an improper error.

She is literally repeating the Open we just finished.

Random ass hammer that comes from nowhere and then escaping lynch.

She did it twice in the open.

Titus Juni was freaking obvTown you KNOW better than that

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No they weren't.

They had major inconsistencies and claimed a role that helps scum.

They had to die.

I did it.

#noshame

1) You didn't try to hunt those inconsistencies.
2) A player should be lynched because they are scum not because they have a role that "helps scum" which is a blatant lie in this setup.
3) No they didn't have to die.
4) Yes you did and now you should be lynched for it.

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please dont do the whole waffling on claiming thing. just claim if you're -x2 or less.

Sure. I'm the roleblocker. I breadcrumbed it in 156.

I targeted Darklyn with my ability on N1.

Why were you crumbing? I presume without reading at 156, you had no result to share. If you goal was to avoid a bullet, why put a neon sign on yourself?

VOTE: juri

Nighttime biatches.

Like she doesn't even interact with the response and just says nighttime biatches.

That is someone who is wuickhammering through and through.

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Changed my mind. Titus + Boring are scum.

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@Titus, what's your read on MathBlade? You seem to be able to form quick reads on them.

@MathBlade, have you read the game?

My read on them is anti-town would lynch.

What lead you to that conclusion?

They decided I hammerred here and hammerred in some other scumgame that I must be scum here. Then, they want to lynch anyone who TRs me (technically Gerry TRs Impoetic), so Math came in determined to lynch me and anyone who disagrees with them.

That type of mindset "agree or scum" is anti-town.

Did you miss the post I said it was you and boring? Yeah. Guess you did.

Must be convenient to want to lynch me because I want to lynch you.

Pot meet kettle.

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Just to clarify, in case I misunderstood -- you'd lynch MathBlade because they're acting anti-town, not because you think they had an anti-town role assigned them?

Not exactly.

I think they're anti-town to the point where I have zero hope of determining what their PM is. Only that whatever they'll do only serves to benefit scum.

In other words I scumread you so you could lynch me and you have no desire to figure out my alignment. Got it.

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I'm not sure about Titus yet. I'm not sure about Dunnstral yet. I'm not sure about Mathblade yet.

I can't help but think that if Hapahauli was dead wrong about everyone, scum would have kept him alive to make more wrong, but convincing cases.

VOTE: TheFuzzylogic99

Of the people yesterday who were okay with lynching Fuzzy, Hapa was by far the towniest and most convincing.

Example: You haven't provided a single concrete read yet are hypothesizing about what scum would do.

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Can anyone identify their town reads at this point?

Yes.

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Just to clarify, in case I misunderstood -- you'd lynch MathBlade because they're acting anti-town, not because you think they had an anti-town role assigned them?

Not exactly.

I think they're anti-town to the point where I have zero hope of determining what their PM is. Only that whatever they'll do only serves to benefit scum.

In other words I scumread you so you could lynch me and you have no desire to figure out my alignment. Got it.

No. It's just when you filter all your reads through an incorrect assumption which you spam, I simply cannot. You can scumread me all you want.

Your play makes it impossible to read others.

I have been in proddable range (24 hours) twice.
I disagree and think you are scum.

Explain how I am spamming.

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It will become clear who I townread.

I cannot be killed. I should not be lynched.
I should not be driving. This is my way of not doing that and letting people see Titus and Boring are scum.
Trying something new is fun.

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It will become clear who I townread.

I cannot be killed. I should not be lynched.
I should not be driving. This is my way of not doing that and letting people see Titus and Boring are scum.
Trying something new is fun.

I hope you're scum.

Hope doesn't change a rolePM or that I am doing the right thing by not driving.

Now you are forced to bus.

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Okay there's a lot to read. I'll start tonight and maybe finish but I'll definitely post some thoughts tomorrow morning.

Hi! Thanks for replacing in!

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Impoetic, are you gonna answer my question in #96?

Also, what spurred your scumlean on Alisae?

at the time I thought his questions didn't seem to be particularly genuine and one other thing I changed my mind about

if I were confident I would vote it, but I need to reset my reads now

This bleeds town to me. I can't see scum ever saying this.

I can. It is less than 100 posts in. That reads like "I don't want to answer that" so claim reset.

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200* fuck typos

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It will become clear who I townread.

I cannot be killed. I should not be lynched.
I should not be driving. This is my way of not doing that and letting people see Titus and Boring are scum.
Trying something new is fun.

I hope you're scum.

They probably are.

They =boring right?

Pretty sure I read that right.

I also do not see the Impoetic town reads. Like what?

Based on Titus's play someone has to sell Titus town.
I do not understand the "Impoetic was Town" bit when the posts are NAI at best.

Someone break this down like I am five because I am PDS scum don't wanna bus Titus here.

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If they were both scum I wouldn't be surprised, especially since some of their day 1 interaction was eyebrow raising.

The issue I have with the titus situation is that I'd be okay with the lynch if she wasn't a replacement. To lynch titus is to say impo was scum, which I have a hard time believing. We either need to decide that impo was somehow scum, or that titus is somehow town.

Is there any scenario in which you could see titus being town?

Is there any scenario you see Impo not Town? Yes all of them. I do not understand the impo TR.

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I'll wait for catch up, I guess.

UNVOTE:

P-edit - well, at least someone agrees with me. Though, you being his replacement does dilute things a little.

Vote back on Titus. Bus. Now.

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...Titus go to bed. Wake up. You are calling me scum for calling you scum.

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So we're potentially lynching the actual bp? How is that a good idea? Shouldn't we look for mafia in other people, especially since we haven't killed any yet?

Lynch this too if I ever die. Iaws knows I am BP.

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Why is the darklyn slot mafia? I don't follow people's reasoning on this.

I didn't get it for Darklyn, but Contradiction "revealed" his role for no reason, and it just happened to be the ever-convenient, scum-favorite, BP.

Being wagoned is when you are supposed to claim.
Boring is scum who wants an excuse to lynch me.

Titus/Iaws/boring scum team

You're welcome.

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Oh and momo too:

All scum in there. Pick.

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@Momo
can you tell us your thought on the current events and the two wagons are.........

@mhsmith0
Whats the status on PJM and Triv>>>

I prefer the Titus wagon by quite a bit. I still choose not to hammer as we have 6 days left.

I will hammer it three different people ask me to though...

Please hammer Titus

Please hammer/vote Titus.

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I am not in hammer range.

Why have you caught the math disease?

You mean good Townie? Yes please more people catch it.

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So we're potentially lynching the actual bp? How is that a good idea? Shouldn't we look for mafia in other people, especially since we haven't killed any yet?

Lynch this too if I ever die. Iaws knows I am BP.

Lmao. Isn't the whole point of claiming to have the town believe you? So apparently I'm scum by believing you're bp. Great deducing skills, but you might wanna take another look at your thought process there.

Belief is one thing, knowing is another.

You said actual BP implying either A) You were hunting for a BP or B) You know I am telling the truth because you know I am Town. It is the word actual throwing me.

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Math is scum.

What could scum gain from MathBlade's behavior? Why go through the effort of alientating the towniest player in the game? Why pick me as a tunnel, either? There were plenty of lower-hanging fruit around. It's a townie effort, even if it's terrible.

In scum's place, I'd push and pull to get town!Math to 3-way lylo with me, you (if you're not scum), or apparently IAWS.

Either way, unless my read on IAWS is dead wrong, this behavior coming from town!Math is more valuable to the scum team than if it's coming from scum!Math.

If Math was scum here, they'd gain way more from bussing. It would calm the game down to even less activity, and give them town credit.

Am I missing something?

Titus just needs be lynched boring.

You need me in your pocket so you defend me from what is clearly bullshit Titus trying to save herself from impending lynch.

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DeltaW replaces projectmatt effective immediately.

Hi DeltaW!

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Also LOL at the boring/IAWS attempt to start a counter wagon to save Titus onto Gerry

Gotta go but please lynch Titus.

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If Math was scum here, they'd gain way more from bussing. It would calm the game down to even less activity, and give them town credit.

Math hates bussing unless they stage it hard core by planning.

Hate is such a strong word. Dislike is more appropriate but I do bus for towncred as scum see 1800.

I was on Karnos D1 when it looked like he would go down. It just never happened so I never switched.

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What could scum gain from MathBlade's behavior? Why go through the effort of alientating the towniest player in the game? Why pick me as a tunnel, either? There were plenty of lower-hanging fruit around. It's a townie effort, even if it's terrible.

Noise. Hiding a lack of scumhunting. Turning town against itself.

I dunno. Maybe Math is civving it up.

Unless Math wants to fake a guilty on me and eat rope, this attitude she and Dunn are presenting serves no town purpose to me.

I wish I had a guilty on you. But because I am BP I don't.

How about you eat rope?

My attitude isn't meant to help scum it is meant to help Town.

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1) She tried to claim that a scummy as fuck hammer is good for Town.
2) A roleblocker is a perfect counter to the Fruit Vendor so Fruit Vendor doesn't end up OP.
3) She isn't asking a single gamesolving question. It is all "Don't lynch me...Can we lynch anyone else?" Buddies can't wagon gerryoat? I will try Math.
4) Game has stalled because people are inactive or are IMHO incorrectly not voting Titus because of Imp's slot. When Imp was pretty damn scummy IMHO.

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Yes. It is better than IC to me.

That doesn't attempt to solve the game Titus. You aren't trying to identify who scum are.

Instead you are poking at my attitude which I am working on improving instead of being a tunnelly loud player.

P.S. I think you are scum with Transcend and boring.

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If I am wrong about either swap them out for IAWS.

Also you are at L-1. Claim.

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Titus should be claiming. She has one proddodge cycle to do so. If she doesn't hammer away.

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Fuck it.

I am the gs.

Blocked n1, checked boring n2. They are town.

I don't believe you when you could have checked Juri.

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Furthermore if you were blocked by Juri that means you would have believed Juri's claim as you would know a RB is in existence.

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So no way in hockey sticks you are a gunsmith.

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Obviously they didn't do it N2 according to you so yes you could have checked Juri. You always value confirmations. Why didn't you here? Oh right because you are scum.

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Why would you hammer Juri before asking who she blocked if you were blocked n1

This makes no sense to me

I assumed Juri blocked me.

It makes sense to players scumhunting.

No it doesn't.

Juri could block you as Town or scum.

Your instant hammer makes no sense as you could check Juri.

You could have easily gotten a guilty and see what happens and how people react comparatively but you didn't.

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And cops don't do "Look at me" hammers ever.

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I can see juri blocking impoetic though

We give Titus another night

Why?

And hell to the no. Titus is claiming cop to avoid lynch.

Do you honestly think Town has a RB, 1shot BP, a GS, and a fruitvendor come on:

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Town Titus is also brutally bad with her crumbs. Like smack you in da face bad.

Titus where are your crumbs?

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Fuck that. It is OP as hell.

I fought against something similar with Shadowrun.

Everyone agreed scum should have been fucked afterward.

So I don't buy Titus being a cop and I don't buy her claim and giving her another day means she randomly guilties the scummiest townie she can find then policy lynch guilty they flip Town.

Titus does NOT get another night.

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Fuck that. It is OP as hell.

I fought against something similar with Shadowrun.

Everyone agreed scum should have been fucked afterward.

So I don't buy Titus being a cop and I don't buy her claim and giving her another day means she randomly guilties the scummiest townie she can find then policy lynch guilty they flip Town.

Titus does NOT get another night.

It's gunsmith not a cop.

lol Don't remind me of Wake's where you said it got guilties and only cops do that.

Titus should eat rope right now.

If she is NK'd or claims blocked it is like not having the gunsmith.

Then at this point Titus from my POV is a lying scumperson.

So we lynch her.

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Titus does NOT get another night.

I refuse to let town gamethrow harder by lynching every pr claim thinking bp and fruit vendor are amazing roles

I wasn't there for the RB claim or I would have said hell no.

Furthermore just because someone claims something doesn't mean they are.

Titus engineered that claim to make me think of Wake's game so I wouldn't lynch her. Too freaking bad.

Boring is not Town here either.

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Titus answer my question: Where are your crumbs?

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If she is NK'd or claims blocked it is like not having the gunsmith.

We're waiting and seeing what happens.

It's no longer ok to just tunnel Titus.

I told you what will happen. We will lose letting Titus live because she fake guilties someone then we lose because it is day five and no scum lynches.

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I don't recall a GS having blocking abilities........

Dunn
can you tell me why MoMo is scum please

Titus says she was blocked not that she did blocking.

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You don't get to do this by the way

Move your vote off of Titus. It is mechanically poor to lynch her today

Always lynch cop/GS claims day before possible LyLO.

Then if cop claim is town confTown boring decides LYLO.

We have 9 alive.

Mislynch here means 7 alive. That means 3v4 most likely.

Boring is in no way Town.

It is mechanically smart to lynch Titus because if we don't lynch her here she guilties someone and creates a false gladiator on LyLO and then we are still "deciding"

Fuck that. Titus is scums.

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WTF? Did none of you read the game? Juri saiid she blocked Darklyn N1.

It had to be scum RB/JK or nothing.

Titus is full of shit. Lynch Titus.

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WTF? Did none of you read the game? Juri saiid she blocked Darklyn N1.

It had to be scum RB/JK or nothing.

Sure. Scum lie.

Juri is flipped Town just stawp scumclaiming.

Boring is also very likely scum based on Titus's mistake FYI.

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@Titus who did your slot submit when blocked? You could have hit ascetic but I doubt it.

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1) Then there is no way you were blocked D1 unless scum have a roleblocker which I find ridiculous.
2) You didn't say you tried to check anyone else and based on having the BP claim you would have checked my slot. You didn't do you are scum.

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Ok. Who do you want to lynch?

Town...

Titus always does a cheeky scum claim as scum.

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Boring please hammer Titus.

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Boring please hammer Titus.

You don't think the rest of town deserves a moment to assess the claim?

I can't imagine even you demanding this as town.

VOTE: MathBlade

We had a moment and determined it is full of shit.

Titus fucked up her fake claim.

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Gerryoat might be scum hard defending.

Gerryoat was an attempted counter wagon to Titus.

Unlikely Gerryoat is scum with Titus.

@boring .........

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Yeah

I'm going to do everything in my power to get IAlwaysWinSometimes lynched tomorrow based off Trivium's play.

I could see IAWS scum with Titus really think Boring more

And Gerry I think is derpTown but will reread his ISO overnight

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1) Then there is no way you were blocked D1 unless scum have a roleblocker which I find ridiculous.
2) You didn't say you tried to check anyone else and based on having the BP claim you would have checked my slot. You didn't do you are scum.

Your bp claim just occured today. I don't time travel.

No it didn't lol.

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What the hell? I leave for school and turn around and I am at L-1??

I hard claim 1-shot BP town.

I was hoping b sitting I would bait the scum team into night killing me.

Back in March.

When he was being wagoned.

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@ Math - Look, I still think that Titus's flip holds a lot of info. But we need time to process this claim. It's not like we're 2 hours from deadline or anything.

P-edit: how on earth is IAWS a good lynch?!

Because IAWS called me actual BP like IAWS had inside knowledge that I am telling the truth which makes IAWS likely scum.

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I can wait, but this is mafia. no way he makes a setup with town and mafia RBer

This.

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Mainly it is about interactions and how they work with one another.

Between the flip and Night Actions Town should never be able to confirm more than one person or it is swingy as fuck.

Gunsmith + Fruit Vendor is too many confirmations.

For each investigative PR scum should have one player immune or have a way to stop it or have it be a weak investigative.

Anything more than that you'd need a role like roleblocker aligned with Town to balance that.

Gunsmith + Fruit Vendor = 3 potential confirmed town D1. Unlikely as fuck they'd be put together. Even with a Town roleblocker.

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Confirmed town N1*

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For each PR that prevents a kill like BP or doc scum get a shot of Strongman or RB depending on type to counter that.

For me balanced setups are ones in which PRs exist but do not make or break a setup.

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Can you link me to a game you've balanced

Nope haven't modded except one game on MS and if I help balance I almost always do it in secret.

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MathBlade are you saying you think town ONLY has the bp/fruit vendor/roleblocker?

No. I am saying gunsmith is too OP with those roles.

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Furthermore Titus's claim is shit.

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MathBlade are you saying you think town ONLY has the bp/fruit vendor/roleblocker?

No. I am saying gunsmith is too OP with those roles.

Do you think there are more town prs

One at most besides me. Otherwise this turns into role madness. I think I know who it is too so I am keeping my mouth shut.

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@ Math - Look, I still think that Titus's flip holds a lot of info. But we need time to process this claim. It's not like we're 2 hours from deadline or anything.

P-edit: how on earth is IAWS a good lynch?!

Because IAWS called me actual BP like IAWS had inside knowledge that I am telling the truth which makes IAWS likely scum.

Jesus you're still harping on about this? I thought I explained this to you already

You gave an explanation I don't buy it.

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If you do and we've killed the gs, it's on you.

Lol I doubt Titus is the GS. If she is she already didn't check her supposed top scumread after interacting with a claim and claiming bs roleblock plus the shit hammer. Like if Titus is town I am going to scream into my pillow "WhY??!?!?!?!?!?!?!"

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Don't believe you.

The claim came right around the time you replaced in. You were told it directly several times.

#wtfTitusIsScum

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Welp I was town. Math needs to be vigged.

I AM BP!!!!

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We do. I don't know what else to say here except wtf.

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Seriously I have won scum games with more complex mechanics than normals as sweeps. There is no way in hell Titus makes that BS claim with me scum and no way I bus her there.

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I know. It is mind boggling to me. I don't get it.

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Boring pinged me pretty hard yesterday.

Based on the cw attempted you're likely town.

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I am half tempted to suggest a policy wagon on myself if I didn't know I was one shot BP and be antiwin con to do but if I am lynched then it proves the Strongman I theorized about before. Where as I am pretty certain scum have to have a Strongman to get through all the roleblockers and such each night.

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Am I your most likely to be scum if Titus flips scum, or just your second most likely scum?

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This isn't about being obvtown. This is about town spamming I am right, scum refusing to bus Fuzzy, and creating a stalemate. No one is talking to each other, we're talking at each other.

I haven't gotten one solid read beyond Fuzzy and that's a problem.

Fuzzy likely town based on this post.

Back to answering your question.

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This isn't about being obvtown. This is about town spamming I am right, scum refusing to bus Fuzzy, and creating a stalemate. No one is talking to each other, we're talking at each other.

I haven't gotten one solid read beyond Fuzzy and that's a problem.

Can you tell us more about why fuzzy is your only solid read? It might help to understand your thought process.

Fuzzy was lying and has played terribly anti-town since I got here.

I cannot have a dialogue with most anyone regarding their reads due to attitudes. The reach out makes me lean town on you.

Titus supposedly had an innocent but only lean town on boring.

The fact GS claim was meant to set up a bad LYLO for us IMHO. This would make boring and Titus easily vote as a pair.

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Changed my mind. Titus + Boring are scum.

So stubborn and simplistic.

You get convinced a slot is scum and anyone who defends them is a partner.

Unfortunately, that's an easy scum game to replicate.

Changed my mind. Titus + Boring are scum.

Please explain why you think I'm scum.

@Titus, what's your read on MathBlade? You seem to be able to form quick reads on them.

@MathBlade, have you read the game?

@Titus, what's your read on MathBlade? You seem to be able to form quick reads on them.

@MathBlade, have you read the game?

My read on them is anti-town would lynch.

@Titus, what's your read on MathBlade? You seem to be able to form quick reads on them.

@MathBlade, have you read the game?

My read on them is anti-town would lynch.

What lead you to that conclusion?

They decided I hammerred here and hammerred in some other scumgame that I must be scum here. Then, they want to lynch anyone who TRs me (technically Gerry TRs Impoetic), so Math came in determined to lynch me and anyone who disagrees with them.

That type of mindset "agree or scum" is anti-town.

Bloody hell just all of page 80.

[MathBlade]

so your reads:

TR: Fuzzy, me

SR: Boring

right?

Yup.

[MathBlade]

Trivium (1)

projectmatt ,

JaeReed (1)

gerryoat ,

Fro99er (7)

Transcend , Fro99er , JaeReed , Darklyn , Impoetic , Crash , Dunnstral , L-0

Not Voting (4)

usagichan , Juri , momo , Trivium


Day one VC

scumlean IAWS because I thought they slipped knowing my claim is true but I was hoping to reevaluate that today so I didn't list them.

[MathBlade]

gerryoat -- Likely Town
MathBlade (replaces ThinkBig replaces Contradiction replaces Darklyn) -- Town
IAlwaysWinSometimes (replaces Trivium)
Boring (replaces Crash) -- Scum
DeltaW (replaces projectmatt) -- ???
momo (replaces Alisae) -- ???
TheFuzzyLogic99 (replaces usagichan) -- Likely Town

[MathBlade]

Yes I don't have the game solved. :/

[MathBlade]

I kinda wanna push Boring and IAWS and see what falls out there. I could lynch the ???? but really I want to figure out my reads.

[MathBlade]

Like Titus was obv scum because of that hammer and how she interacted with Boring probably makes Boring obv scum but something isn't sitting right with me in that we had two roleblockers and never stopped a kill or had anyone claim to be blocked.

[MathBlade]

Meh I need sleep. Posting with insomnia is bad.

[MathBlade]

I'm lynching in IAWS, momo and Mathblade. one gets rope

I have lost my townread on you.

You ask Boring wtf something is then after seeing my reads then pick a random ??? Without explanation.

I think boring and gerryoat.

[MathBlade]

her logic was so bad that shes prob town from that post

Their or his please.

And what makes my logic so bad?

[MathBlade]

Boring me or gerryoat get rope today. That post is scum.

If we mislynch me lynch boring tomorrow then Gerry then we win.

[MathBlade]

Or we can skip those steps.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Boring

[MathBlade]

I don't know what that means.

[MathBlade]

???? I am not afraid or hesitant based on what urbandictionary says.

[MathBlade]

if you're so confident me and her are mafia, why aren't u ok with being lynched? what happens if me or her flips town? then what?

I am okay with being lynched and said so earlier. If you or her flip town then because I'm BP I'll be alive in LYLO and based on the NK and if either of you flip town I reevaluate. I just don't see Boring flipping town here.

[MathBlade]

Math you said I was the counterwagon to Titus and you suddenly sr me for one post that at first you didn't understand. why?

That post post pinged me a lot. It feels like you were adapting to my reads and then trying to figure out who you were going to scumread and then saying you're only lynching in my question marks and specifically townreading the person I'm scumreading didn't sit right. Then that post after...It was well just bad.

[MathBlade]

You realize that there are people who are suspect of math? So lets say you're both town and we lynch you today, mafia will kill someone not suspect of him and only need 1 person to lynch him tomorrow.

I think you're the only person who does Gerry and you're flat out wrong. Scumreading a person who is at innocent child levels is usually a scumclaim. Titus did it in the open we were just in. I specifically pointed out scum couldn't kill me and you didn't scumread me then. What specifically changed for you overnight? Why do you scumread me?

[MathBlade]

You realize that there are people who are suspect of math? So lets say you're both town and we lynch you today, mafia will kill someone not suspect of him and only need 1 person to lynch him tomorrow.

Look at the player list. We have lurksacks, IAWS, and you (sorry, but you're still very lunchable). How is Math a likely lynch? Math is only tempting as policy.

If you think I'm town, then don't vote me, but even if Math is the only person scum reading me, it's very obvious that town loses the game if we end up in a 3-way LYLO. I'd rather be a NK, but there's no way to guarantee that. My vote stays on me unless you need me to hammer someone scummy.

You could say that about any wrong read at this point. I'm scumreading you based on a multitude of things. I'll list them out if you like but I don't see how you are not scum. If you are then IAWS is almost certainly scum. SOMEONE had to be trying to save Titus when that hammer was freaking atrocious and a repeat of the Open game.

[MathBlade]

...very, very tempting as policy. IC? Really? Don't you think you're laying it on a bit thick?

No. I'm not. An IC's job in LYLO is to either A) Ensure we don't get there. or B) ensure that if we are in LYLO that they listen and have hammers. I literally do not control anything in LYLO as the IC. No one would ever vote in IC until we agreed on a lynch.

[MathBlade]

Look at the Open I was just in with this SAME scenario. I would have ran it to completion if I could but Transcend decided to vote early and fucked it up.

[MathBlade]

I am freaking deadly in LYLO situations if I'm IC and alive.

[MathBlade]

Fro99er (7)

Transcend

,

Fro99er

,

JaeReed

,

Darklyn (me)

,

Impoetic (Titus)

, Crash (boring) ,

Dunnstral

Juri (6)

hapahauli (replaced JaeReed)

, Trivium (IAWS) , boring , momo , gerryoat ,

Titus

Titus (5)

MathBlade

, TheFuzzylogic99 , momo ,

Dunnstral

, gerryoat

Of note is the Juri wagon -- Namely IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat are all on the wagon.
Myself and Fuzzy and DeltaW are off of it.

Also note how day three started off:


Titus (2)Dunnstral , MathBlade ,
TheFuzzylogic99 (3)boring , gerryoat , Titus ,

....That isn't as obvious as fuck I don't know what is. We know Titus is scum. So Fuzzy had to be a counter wagon.

I'm universally townread (because I'm town). That means the only scum that could be off the wagon is DeltaW slot. That means there is at least two scum in IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat.

[MathBlade]

You realize that there are people who are suspect of math? So lets say you're both town and we lynch you today, mafia will kill someone not suspect of him and only need 1 person to lynch him tomorrow.

Look at the player list. We have lurksacks, IAWS, and you (sorry, but you're still very lunchable). How is Math a likely lynch? Math is only tempting as policy.

If you think I'm town, then don't vote me, but even if Math is the only person scum reading me, it's very obvious that town loses the game if we end up in a 3-way LYLO. I'd rather be a NK, but there's no way to guarantee that. My vote stays on me unless you need me to hammer someone scummy.

You could say that about any wrong read at this point. I'm scumreading you based on a multitude of things. I'll list them out if you like but I don't see how you are not scum. If you are then IAWS is almost certainly scum. SOMEONE had to be trying to save Titus when that hammer was freaking atrocious and a repeat of the Open game.

Listing the reasons you think I'm scum will be an exercise in futility for both of us, unless you really believe yourself open to changing your mind, or you think it will convince the rest of the players to vote me.

I think people will vote you and Dunn was killed because I could work with Dunn. Like I said earlier scum can't kill me. Their only hope is to fool me.

[MathBlade]

And I am perceived as a bad player. What people don't know is that in a low amount of player lylo my reads change like coin flips. Until I'm able to narrow shit down. If there's too many players in LYLO I still know the golden age rule of don't freaking vote. But the less players you have to try to guess the more manueverability there is.

The only question is if I'm scumreading gerry due to paranoia or complete sketchiness or if gerry is wifom.

At this point Fuzzy is almost a town lock for me. I want to read his ISO agian just to make sure.

[MathBlade]

I want to give her another day so I get a better read , Right now I can see voting her tomorrow.

Right now I am uncomfortable voting Juri........

This is town.

[MathBlade]

Blatant buddying me and dunn?

A momo lynch

?

Buddying isn't a thing when you're dead. And yeah I should have been clearer about the momo thing. I'm not willing to lynch him today, I just think his is a posting style which I can't help but look at as scummy despite myself. I'll be trying to evaluate him in other ways.

Juri really didn't want to lynch momo. Definitely going to keep this in mind.

[MathBlade]

I dunno, I'd think she'd be more accommodating if she was scum. Either way, it seems like a predominantly NAI stance to me. Unless she only does this as scum or something (which I doubt).

Defense of Titus for a think that didn't need to be defended as town. Titus could have easily cited games where she doesn't read. Instead boring doesn't want Titus to actually have heat.

[MathBlade]

Titus replaced impoetic,a slot I scum read and now refuses to read the game??

What is that. You know the amount of pages upon replacing in and still choose to say I don´t have time for this. If you don´t have time, don't replace in.

Feel like this is an excuse to cover up scumslip.

Momo, regardless of whether or not Titus/Imp is town or scum, we need to push juri. I want the lynch I think is going to be the most likely to be scum, and right now that's him. So you can push the counterwagon, but by voting based on things like not reading the game on replace in,

which is actually meta for Titus

, you're supporting the wrong wagon. Impoetic is town: they posted a whole lot of content early on in the game, and their absence wasn't indicative. I unerstand you have a scumread but right now the best thing you can do is vote for the actual scum.

Town.

[MathBlade]

Triv, my vote is on Juri for a reason but I think Titus is 100% tomorrow's lynch.

Momo saying here vote is on Juri for a reason but would vote Titus tomorrow.

Titus likely hammered because she could see the doors closing in around her.

[MathBlade]

Done posting for now but that Juri lynch is hella indicative. Combined with the D3 open. But I'm definitely thinking {Boring, gerryoat, IAWS}

momo gets a reprieve today because Juri said no and he seems honest about his reasoning why. The quicklynch on the end was horrible.

[MathBlade]

The not reading is NAI. The defense of her was unnecessary and she handles it well every game she is in. It's your defense that is AI. Her not reading is NAI.

[MathBlade]

Titus was outed scum at that point. There was no way she wasn't being lynched. You were bussing.

Whenever Titus was outed scum she likes to make her buddies look as townie as possible.

It wasn't a conscious "OMG I HAVE TO SAVE TITUS NOW" it's more a "WTF Titus is getting scumread for dumb reasons" bit.

Titus knew I wasn't letting go. Titus knew Dunnstral wasn't. At that point it's about making the scumbuddies look townie.

[MathBlade]

Oh and that line about head in my ass, Titus said I had my head in my ass and too much pride to do what she wanted when she was confirmed scum.

What is alignment indicative is before Titus realized she was going down. Making Fuzzy town.

[MathBlade]

Fro99er (7)

Transcend

,

Fro99er

,

JaeReed

,

Darklyn (me)

,

Impoetic (Titus)

, Crash (boring) ,

Dunnstral

Juri (6)

hapahauli (replaced JaeReed)

, Trivium (IAWS) , boring , momo , gerryoat ,

Titus

Titus (5)

MathBlade

, TheFuzzylogic99 , momo ,

Dunnstral

, gerryoat

Of note is the Juri wagon -- Namely IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat are all on the wagon.
Myself and Fuzzy and DeltaW are off of it.

Also note how day three started off:


Titus (2)Dunnstral , MathBlade ,
TheFuzzylogic99 (3)boring , gerryoat , Titus ,

....That isn't as obvious as fuck I don't know what is. We know Titus is scum. So Fuzzy had to be a counter wagon.

I'm universally townread (because I'm town). That means the only scum that could be off the wagon is DeltaW slot. That means there is at least two scum in IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat.

It would have to be IAWS and momo if that were the case and I would rather wait for them to come online and talk before switching off my top scum pick.

[MathBlade]

@DeltaW who do you scumread?

@All who posted after why didn't you ask why that was empty posting?

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

[MathBlade]

Boring IAWS becomes a possibility but the way the three of you ignored DeltaW's contentless posts or townread DeltaW for it means that there is at least one scum in Boring,IAWS,gerry

[MathBlade]

We really need lurkers momo and Fuzzy to step it up and bring content and DeltaW to not active lurk.

[MathBlade]

If three of you want to vote IAWS, I'll throw in the hammer.

It looks like Delta wants to be convinced. It could be genuine, or it could be a buddy stall. I wonder if momo or fuzzy will dive in without too much fuss.

Sounds like here you are: "could be genuine" that indicates a waffling. Definitely doesn't indicate a scumread.

[MathBlade]

I don't see Math as scum in this game Yes I get that scum busses but the conversation between MB and scum Titus reads as TvS. I am pretty sure MB is town. Is there any reason to believe the conversations between MB and Titus is Fake or scum aligned, I also don't think will suicide here, with one scum down and their flip possibly revealing the last scum. I guess its possible this could be scum Boring trying to get town sympathy but the whole thing reads a total sincere.
I am thinking that Boring is town.

the IC claim seems odd. We have a flipped RB, JK , FV ... a RB and an IC seems to make the town terrible OP. This could possible be a false claim. than again the game might just be unbalanced as anything and scum just got unlucky , I want to go back
to go through and look at the ISO the see if there any reason to scum read them

Letting Gerry eat rope might not be a bad idea given that he strongly TR the slot as well as defended the slot even with Titus pretty obvious scum play,

will be back later,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

lol I am one shot BP.

I am saying I am in effect an IC not a literal IC.

I know it doesn't make sense power wise but I am a 1shot BO.

[MathBlade]

BP *

Thanks autocorrect. :/

[MathBlade]

IC + BP would be broke as shit.

[MathBlade]

I have the capabaility to vote anyone.

However being mutually townread my job is to vote last.

I did boring as a reaction test and didn't like the results. If anyone had actually voted Boring after me I would have invited.

I scumread boring right now the most but there is no way I am voting.

[MathBlade]

I am IC.
No way I am dying due to BP.
No way I am being mislynched because I am obvTown.

So as such a position my responsibility is to force scum to vote.

Of the seven players that remain 2 are likely scum.

This means a wagon without me on it either has scum or all the Town.
In essence me not voting forces scum to vote and forces lurkers out of the sidelines.

Repeat if we ever get to LYLO but me not voting helps catch scum.

[MathBlade]

For instance we all know I am confirmed town based on yesterday yet no one is interacting on DeltaW's vote on me that is telling.
Gerry doesn't want to vote boring. That is telling.

[MathBlade]

Gerry- His defending of the Titus/Impoetic slot gives me pause.

your logic is flawed, think of it this way. Impoetic was TR by a lot of people day 1. and I even admitted Titus had a bad start, but was willing to bypass that, until the claim. Also, look at the PRs that have flipped, 2 RBers, so mafia must have a strong PR like a strongman, why would i choose to hard buddy my goon, instead of potential needed maf PR.

Because if Titus wasn't lynched then you would have a three v three LyLO which is usually damn near impossible for scum to pull off and Titus was tunneling me in order to try to get rid of the BP.

This would have forced people who seem to be unaware of IC LyLO mechanics/hunting to lead three straight lynches. Scum we're likely not bussing until they had to.

[MathBlade]

@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

Boring
I feel like I am stuck in-between a rock and a hard place bc I can see what you are saying, However the harder you push for your lynch the more convince that you are town. I really want to lynch scum today,,,,,, I would vote for you if we gat down to zero hour and there is a no lynch but I cant allow myself to vote town if there is a good possibility of scum being lynched,

Nah Boring is scum.

Campaigning for your own lynch is a Titus trick that she could have easily given to Boring the night before or if scum have daychat the day of.

[MathBlade]

For all the roleblockers we have we likely one have one "action" PR which is the fruitvendor.

This means Strongman+encryptor would make for a great setup and then Titus tell Gerry to make sure Gerry was on that wagon.

[MathBlade]

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

Then vote it

I already said I'll hammer whoever you guys choose (except Math)

Who do you scumread?

[MathBlade]

For instance we all know I am confirmed town based on yesterday yet no one is interacting on DeltaW's vote on me that is telling.
Gerry doesn't want to vote boring. That is telling.

And what does that tell you, if

no one

is talking about Delta's vote? What does Gerry

and

Fuzzy saying they think I'm town tell you? Keep in mind that Gerry was also recently saying that you aren't obv. town to him (if that changed, I missed it). Please, for the love of snails, set aside the grandiosity, and take a wider view.

I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

I'd like to second the momo replacement request, by the way.

p-edit: I do understand your position, Fuzzy. I don't want another ML either, but unless we're absolutely sure we've got scum, then I'm the best ML.

@mod replace out

How did you second a replace out that wasn't posted yet?

[MathBlade]

Math, i'm gonna need you to vote IAWS

Told you that's not going to happen until all the other players do things.

As an IC my job is to vote last. Tough cookies.

[MathBlade]

I don't have a read on momo.

I am reading the game I just saw that there and got confused.

[MathBlade]

I don't have a read on momo.

I am reading the game I just saw that there and got confused.

I could have sworn you said you town read him. What changed?

Now who is not reading....

[MathBlade]

We really need lurkers momo and Fuzzy to step it up and bring content and DeltaW to not active lurk.

Fro99er (7)

Transcend

,

Fro99er

,

JaeReed

,

Darklyn (me)

,

Impoetic (Titus)

, Crash (boring) ,

Dunnstral

Juri (6)

hapahauli (replaced JaeReed)

, Trivium (IAWS) , boring , momo , gerryoat ,

Titus

Titus (5)

MathBlade

, TheFuzzylogic99 , momo ,

Dunnstral

, gerryoat

Of note is the Juri wagon -- Namely IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat are all on the wagon.
Myself and Fuzzy and DeltaW are off of it.

Also note how day three started off:


Titus (2)Dunnstral , MathBlade ,
TheFuzzylogic99 (3)boring , gerryoat , Titus ,

....That isn't as obvious as fuck I don't know what is. We know Titus is scum. So Fuzzy had to be a counter wagon.

I'm universally townread (because I'm town). That means the only scum that could be off the wagon is DeltaW slot. That means there is at least two scum in IAWS, boring, momo, and gerryoat.

It would have to be IAWS and momo if that were the case and I would rather wait for them to come online and talk before switching off my top scum pick.

[MathBlade]

Lurkers need to post...

[MathBlade]

Who do you scumread? Who are you pushing?

Who are you voting?

[MathBlade]

I scumread gerry. I'm not pushing or voting anyone right now.

Why?

[MathBlade]

Done posting for now but that Juri lynch is hella indicative. Combined with the D3 open. But I'm definitely thinking {Boring, gerryoat, IAWS}

momo gets a reprieve today because Juri said no and he seems honest about his reasoning why. The quicklynch on the end was horrible.

This was what I remembered.

Yes a reprieve is not a townread.

[MathBlade]

We're feeling stuck again. I'd like everyone to humor me with a thought experiment. Let's imagine for a moment that we're coming back on Day 5.

I was lynched Day 4, and flipped

Vanilla Town

.
Mathblade was NK'd, and flipped

1-shot Bulletproof

(we're assuming here that they have a 1-shot strongman).

Who are your top two scum reads?

Gerry's reads:
Math's reads
IAWS's reads:
Delta's reads:
Fuzzy's reads:
TBA's reads:

We aren't "stuck again" people are lurking.

Which will be fixed. Stop creating apathy where it doesn't exist.

The thread doesn't have to go a mile a minute.

[MathBlade]

Gerry and TBD. Gerry was not only on the juri lynch but also hopped on that fuzzy counterwagon. (Which I didn't)

That screams scum to me.

Why is TBD scum to you?

[MathBlade]

ha

That requires a little bit more than a ha.

[MathBlade]

wait was it an actual question? I thought you were making a joke

Yes that is an actual question.

I want you to expand on all of your reads with why.

[MathBlade]

wait was it an actual question? I thought you were making a joke

Yes that is an actual question.

I want you to expand on all of your reads with why.

Why do you scumread the TBD slot?

I know what it stands for.

[MathBlade]

We're feeling stuck again. I'd like everyone to humor me with a thought experiment. Let's imagine for a moment that we're coming back on Day 5.

I was lynched Day 4, and flipped

Vanilla Town

.
Mathblade was NK'd, and flipped

1-shot Bulletproof

(we're assuming here that they have a 1-shot strongman).

Who are your top two scum reads?

Gerry's reads:
Math's reads
IAWS's reads:
Delta's reads:
Fuzzy's reads:
TBA's reads:

I will be dead. If that happens my reads are horribly wrong and shouldn't be listened to.

Fact of the matter remains with two RBs and a JK they probably already used a Strongman shot if applicable and it likely is.

So more than likely IF this goes to LYLO and IF I am alive no one will vote if it is 5P LYLO and I sit and read the thread after any and all replacements come in.

[MathBlade]

Iaws reads please:

[MathBlade]

I am okay with IAWS after that post.

It shows IAWS has no effortnor investment into the game and is cherry picking the claim rather than interactions. IAWS is not trying to analyze me to figure out why if I was scum eithe titus I would post the things I did.

IAWS can have rope. Boring IAWS new team. If I die and Boring town still lynch IAWS.

[MathBlade]

Just because I don't have time to go iso and quote tons of stuff means I can't summarize my reads into a sentence as town?

It isn't about time.

It is about what you say when you do have time and you just aren't thinking that deep. You were in the game and noticed the counterwagons but yet didn't take into account the leader of the wagon or that Titus tried to call me scum.

So either A) You didn't look at the wagons and are repeating what is in the thread or B) You are looking at the wagons and not thinking deeply or scumhunting with them.

[MathBlade]

RE: boring's thought experiment 2422

Gerry's reads:
Math's reads: IAWS, ?
IAWS's reads: Gerry, ?
Delta's reads:
Fuzzy's reads:
Momo's replacement's reads:

I hate your experiment btw.

I think you are scum for it.

[MathBlade]

Trying to figure out which of the lurkers to kill.

[MathBlade]

boring please unvote and vote IAWS, math scumreads him as well

I do but I am not ending the day without lurkers chiming in.

And with you pushing I am back to wanting Boring.

[MathBlade]

Have a little faith.

If I identify one scum I usually can identify the rest.

[MathBlade]

Ewwww

Everyone quit competing for the most damn scummy award.:.Please it makes my chest hurt.

[MathBlade]

Vote MoMo

I think if we lynch MoMo and Gerry we will win unless there scum between Delta and IAWS,,,, I am not to sure but I don't think they are scum Anyways his vote on Titus seemed a bit desperate to seem like a town read,

Yeah not seeing that team :/

[MathBlade]

Yeah I don't feel right about this.....

[MathBlade]

@mod VC please

[MathBlade]

Math, who do you want most out of IAWD, Delta, Momo slot. I will literally vote any of them

That question is sooooo scummy.

Don't vote me and my partner please is what it says.

[MathBlade]

OK. you know what, i dont care anymore.

VOTE: boring

When she flips town, you auto TR for the rest of the game. deal? and you stop fucking waffling around. I can solve this game myself, i dont care. I can find the team in delta, IAWS, momo slot eventually

And if she flips scum?

[MathBlade]

@mod VC please

Sorry i missed the prior.

Request rescinded.

[MathBlade]

Math's reads are just so off rn imo. He can't see a gerry/momo team but he can see a me/boring team? In what world am I scumbuddies with boring lmao. But then when I get to L-1 he refuses to lynch me?

If he did lynch me, I'd say he's scum. However, since he decided not to, I'm keeping my townread on him.

I think it's 2 scum in momo/gerry/delta. I can't see why momo isn't a smart lynch today.

VOTE: Momo

STOP competing for the world's scummiest player awards people.

[MathBlade]

Seriously. Math is going to refuse to get on any wagon with me, and they insist on hammering. Sure, the four of us can circumvent her and lynch scum anyway, but it's far, far more probable that we won't be able to pull off a lynch that mafia don't support. That'll put us in a doomed LYLO tomorrow.

If we lynch me, HOPEFULLY Math will step down as dictator, and we can still win this. I know it works the same lynching Math, but BP is more valuable than VT.

I am not dictator.
I am merely holding hammers like I am supposed to.

[MathBlade]

A lot of people.

And I see no reason not to wait until the replacement comes in.

[MathBlade]

Still not voting even though I'm happy you're voting boring.

IAWS is not obvious mafia.

Let's get the replacement in here.

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??? What are you saying Boring?

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It is literally this Open game again.

Start with hypothesis.
Interact with people.
Make decision.
We run with it.

Only reason we lost that game is Transcend decided to go against standard play. You sit and let the IC do their magic.

And as IC I want a freaking replace for that momo slot.

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2 scum are remaining in 6 people. (I removed myself as I'm town) Only four of those 6 people are town. I'm not assuming a 4 man scum team here.

This means you IAWS Gerry and boring would all have to be town with me and the scum be momo and DeltaW.

The alternative is scum bus momo

Or momo is town.

I want a replacement for that slot or the slot modkilled before anyone is lynched. Lynching now could completely fuck us over if a replacement can't be found and the slot is town.

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@Deltaw ...That question is weird.

However we should not be lynching until replacement or mod kill. If we lynch town here and mono is town modkilled we lose.

We have to wait.

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boring (3)

gerryoat , boring , DeltaW , L-1

momo (2)

TheFuzzylogic99 , IAlwaysWinSometimes , L-2

Not Voting (2)

momo , MathBlade ,

Day four deadline is Tuesday April 25, 11 PM PST. (expired on 2017-04-25 23:00:00) - may be subject to change depending on replacement timing

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

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We are officially on the clock if we don't have a replacement for momo slot we tunnel the shit out of it and hammer if 24 hours left and no word. No lynching results in two scum kills as we have to no lynch again. Which then means I am dead. So to keep me the iC alive into LyLO we have to bullrush momo if no replacement is found.

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Okay so we don't have to worry about a mod kill of the slot. So game on again. Thank god.

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So let's figure this out then:

Every player list your top two scumreads right now (excluding me because IC)

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@IAWS who is your second?

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Gerry for those of us unsure like myself who are your two?

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I can't stop waffling between IAWS and Gerry. I don't believe both could be scum, but I also don't believe that both could be town.

IAWS seems the most uncomfortable (awkward) of the two. Gerry's breeziness makes me uneasy.

I lean a little more often on IAWS and here's why: the way he copied Gerry's townread of Titus. Gerry had already been odd enough deciding that Impoetic just had to be town based on her meta from another site. He transferred that town read to Titus, and was very vocal about it.

IAWS subbed in and said the same thing. That Impoetic was obv. town so Titus had to be town. Impoetic wasn't obv. town. She just wasn't. She had a lot of NAI and AtE. Titus had a lot of NAI and AtE. An NAI scum game will get you pretty far (unless it's really different from your town meta). It's what happens when you're trying to be careful. Town isn't careful. That's part of what makes someone obv. town.

Back to the point. One of them was full of shit. The only reason I don't default to Gerry as the genuine one was that at least IAWS made his read appear to be based on this game only (something he could be held more accountable for than another site's meta).

Assume one is scum who are they with? Assume the other is scum. Who are they with?

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I am looking for a commitment Boring. You're going to have to as Town or scum.

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Titus flipped scum I am one shot BP
We are one lynch away from MyLO
Reading yesterday would be a narrower read.

Thank you for replacing in!

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Juri was lynched! She was

Spoiler:

Welcome to Mini Normal 1893! You are a

Town Roleblocker

!

Abilities

You have your voice and your vote. Use them well to discover the truth.

In addition, at night you may PM me the identity of a player you wish to roleblock. This ability will prevent your target from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. The use of this ability is optional; you may holster if you wish.

Win Condition:
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Night two deadline is Wednesday April 5, 1 PM PST. (expired on 2017-04-05 13:00:00)

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That is about 25 from there to now. Is that narrow enough?

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You're welcome.

I am AFK Saturday morning so I would love to help how I can tonight.

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Damn you read fast

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Any thoughts you have I will take Gamma.

Almost inevitably barring a strongman kill I will end up an IC in LYLO so it is really important this go right and I not tunnel math.