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I want to read more but the pk multiquote felt fake like he was pulling posts saying "ewwwww" and shit just as filler and not to really express and convince others of his reads. Hard to describe better rn on phone but the posts he chose to quote didn't fit my perception of how he solves. Lacking bite? Maybe that's it
And the cherry was saying he was gonna iso dunk and "vote, or not" then declared he's on the "town side of the fence" and then tried to gin up a vedith wagon with a gogogo. Again, feeeels unlike town him. Plus I think vedith is town-
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Why the fuck are you thinking this right now when you're voting one of them (are you saying you're voting him and don't think he is scum?) unless you somehow know it's town/town?In post 912, Srceenplay wrote:
Let's say they are both town wagons.In post 910, Creature wrote:Anyone's willing to test other wagons? We can always return to Dunkerdoodles...
Were is scum?
One on each wagon?
One not voting?
That's what I'm thinking as I look at the vc.
Who is most likely to be scum iyo? Clarify that for me
Cognitive dissonance of this post almost always comes from scum. Weigh in on screenplay folks I'm gonna iso him next after these fb games are over-
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Also I have no idea why I think it was that "5 post read" post but I've been thinking of creature as firebringer/fb meta to this point. And as I readjust it doesn't really trigger any feelings one way or the other but know it's less easy of a read than I thought. And that's not at all a compliment iykwim-
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Can you describe what gives you this thought or is it just out of your ass "gut"?In post 909, Creature wrote:Though, I think scum aren't even trying...-
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How is this for anything but appearance purposes??? (on a wagon you're seemingly already on?)
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borderline impossible to be realIn post 1030, Morality wrote:
I'm actually rather relieved that Panther pointed out this as being a lot of lazy votes. It's exactly how I'd expect him to act based on the personality being shown in this post. I don't have meta here, but I'm much more confident in Panther being town.In post 1019, PantherPunt wrote:Some lazy ass looking votes so far today. Will take a good look on Monday and try to hammer out a full list.
I stand by what I stated, and I know that I'm not off the hook yet either, but I will do what I can to get you guys to see that I'm town after the suspicion being thrown on Pisskop so hard.
"exactly how I'd expect him to act [based on how he actually acted]"
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"I don't have meta here"
wut
and that shit aside, how do you get super comfy I'm town bc I said "buncha lazy votes"
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this post has been sloshing around in the back of my headIn post 997, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, well that's a shame and I need to ISO Creature because I was actually looking at pushing him today.
Lynch pool today is - PK, whoever replaced Vedith and Unabomba.
what were you going to be pushing him based on?
weird disconnect for me between "I was gonna be pushing him" and "I need to ISO him"
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since angleshooting isn't a thing/crime here:In post 1058, Mulch wrote:
Why am I scumIn post 1057, PantherPunt wrote:gj Amrock
I kinda think you're scum but I have no intention of pouring time into this game so the current plan is to read this game here soon and make a 'don't touch' list and see where I'm at after that
the way you got all weird when you saw me sub in didn't sit right / make sense
it was "omg omg did I accidentally discuss ongoing games?" when the whole of the conversation was
you: you should play a game I'm hosting soon on MS
me: don't want to be in more than one at a time and I might be subbing into one
you: ok
then you said some shit like "I could have gleaned information from him!"
which seems to be a 'looks town' type thing to say rather than a *real* thing, bc, you know, it was before I subbed in
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[lol you postlinked my post that's directly above yours. you can just quote it????]
not any kind of association...just clicked through an aero post and saw these
imho, pisskop would be much more likely to have a smaller group of targets or only one target he wanted lynched. That he voted vedith but offered willingness to vote for 4 others as well doesn't right true.
kind of sucks now bc there is a replacement and this can't be answered for, but ya-
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Oh and I had a problem with your entrance. This whole line. First of all, this began with "what are you gonna do IF I flip town" rather than "WHEN"
^that particular line has given false positives for me in the past so it's not something I'm gonna stick hard to
But in the continuance of that line, you oddly lead him into saying that you'll never flip town as a justification to put a vote on him
I'm kind of used to seeing you act a bit wild, but that doesn't seem like a sensible progression in the conversation. Tell me why it took leading him to saying that for you to vote him? Why that's what made him scum to you there?-
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What made you make this retraction here?In post 389, Mulch wrote:I retract my DunkerDoodle townread.
What was the TMI fypov?In post 403, Mulch wrote:Elyse is probably scum with TMI, but I need Screenplay to answer my question before I unvote-
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my sly little TMI read is that tictac accidentally outed that there are only 2 scum back on page 1
these pseudoslips that I often catch have a mixed hit rate, but if he flips scum I'm hanging my hat on that. that and my general impression that in the first 11 pages I read a week and a half ago, he had the most words to littlest impact ratio. just going along and getting along if that makes any sense. and for that, I can empathize with morality's "gut read" that he's just scum
really need to make time to read this game so that I can feel like I did my part-
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rereading today and don't think I answered this. are you referring to 926? (925 is a VC).In post 975, Ghostlin wrote: Few questions for a few folks:
Panther: do you think 925 was scummy or bad?
and if so, why are you asking about my take on the d1 lynch's post? (that I made pretty clear on d1)
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In post 81, cd wrote:
Explain how I'm "full of shit" to me. As far as I'm concerned, you weren't voting me until Vedith decided to claim. How come I wasn't "full of shit" prior to that?In post 74, Srceenplay wrote:
Because he is full of shit and "reaction testing"In post 73, Vedith wrote:Why is Screen scum for you?
And why didn't you care when Screen voted me, being top scum read and all?
Why isn't CD scum?
just started a little cd reread bc he felt really town to me in the beginning pagesIn post 107, cd wrote:Yeah being frustrated towards retarded meta is a scum claim.
You're a fucking idiot.
locking that read in for today
first post there is too righteous sounding for scum to fake imo
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aeronut's posts are pretty NAI on the whole, but the gun to head would be town there
for the conjunction of the vedith read and minor points to the 'was gonna read pisskop town until x'
don't expect this to be understood nor should people really utilize this but want to get my thoughts down
>if aero's slot flips scum, I think vedith's slot is highly likely to be town, as scum rarely have the brass to make their first read an unexplained townread on a bro (they typically feel they HAVE to justify it)
>if aero's slot flips town, vedith's slot is ??? but I tend to put a little stock into the read bc it was the single read he felt confident enough in to voice and I for some reason have it in my head that he has a reputation as a decent player
I see that vedith=ghostlin and have felt pretty unsure on ghostlin so that's tempering my feels a bit, but gun to head that slot is town for me today-
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(almost) full read of pisskop iso and I am feeling better about him and possibly keeping ghostlin/vedith on my suspect list just on the basis that I give slight credence to pk's self-proclaimed soul-peering abilities on vedith
as it stands, the three of them seem to be 'on the town side of the fence'
and I am intrigued by/like pk's callouts on others (currently forgetting other than screen and:) BBT (despite him saying that BBT wasn't getting lynched d1, which may have just been policy, bc as I understand it, BBT gets some reverence on this site)-
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In post 649, Tchill13 wrote:
How would lynching me be more beneficial to the state of the game than lynchingIn post 646, tictac wrote:k then.
I think you and pisskop use the word 'sarcasm' differently than I do.
Point about OP is a good one.
VOTE: Chillpisskopordunker? Then you quickly say you're willing to change your vote to una.In post 676, Tchill13 wrote:The only thing I don't like about tictacs case on me is he makes sure to state its a policy vote against lurking.Dunker still hasn't done well with their defense.In post 847, Tchill13 wrote:
Are you suggesting we lynch an inactive slot?In post 840, Ghostlin wrote:Screen's 835 sums up what I'm seeing in this game. Too many players with thumbs up their asses about the game. This slot claimed a PR, there's doubt about the accuracy from the playerbase, and do we even float the idea? Nope. Between players like Elyse who pretty much own they've not read the thread, and this...fucking passivity ( like where the fuck is BBT?) It's not a stunner that scum has plenty of places to hide.theI likedunkerandpisskop. I still think pisskop should be the lynch.wagons
Hey Tchill,In post 967, Tchill13 wrote:I thought it was. I'm not sure why he got lynched other than "well let's just go with this guy"pretty obvious dunkerdoodles was town
Talk me through this one. Why was he obvious town? When did he become obvious town for you? Posts? etc.
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if tictac is scum, I think this is hard spew of both vedith and screenplay as town, fwiw. someone make this note if I decide we're lynching tictac today, he flips scum, and I'm dead tomorrowIn post 70, tictac wrote:ehh. Ok.
Any point in probing Screen since gonna get vigged anyways?
Not feeling the cd wagon atm.
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Hey BBT. Howls it going? Can you tell me why Ghostlin is your highest confidence scum read? I'm gonna interrupt my tictac iso and jump to yours, but if you could stream off an executive summary, that'd be great
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Also, was this fruitful?In post 997, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright, well that's a shame and I need to ISO Creature because I was actually looking at pushing him today.-
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back and surprise surprise, nothing here.
just spent about 30 minutes reading tchill's iso a few times and I am relatively confident he's town. not lynching today
both 695 and 794 seem to demonstrate he's evaluating players' reads and potentially motivations. like that in 794 he points out a change in another players read but does so while asking about it, rather than calling it scummy/voting
caveat is that both posts I like are addressed at una; fear being that maybe he only posts well at a scumbro; would want to re-examine his possibility of being scum if una were outed as scum
want to also add the note that if tchill is scum, mulch and pisskop are never scum with him imo due to 556 alone
but tchill=town is where I am right now-
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meant to link those post numbers, sorry.
also, the tchill=town thing makes me mildly wary of the vedith slot, who is ghostlin. walking back that townread slightly for now, but would only lynch today if and only if I don't have a very high confidence scum and/or get much more comfortable with BBT=town-
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ok I just started into ghostlin's iso a bit and am not a fan. also relooked at my own entrance to the game and am reminded that I don't like screenplay.
just went and looked for the latest vc and they are voting each other lol.
still need a fair bit of time to work through some things and get comfortable on all 9 alive but I expect to deliver a gamewinning post this phase-
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In post 1184, Srceenplay wrote:My biggest problem is with Vedith claiming vig and ghost saying he lied.
If people want to get on something different I would still be ok with tic or una.
I have a lot to catch up on site and probably need the weekend to do it.
So in your guys' experience, it is more likely that scum will fake claim a PR on day 1 with no reason to do so?In post 1185, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Yeah, the claim is something that can't be left untested.
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ran into this in the Una iso.In post 466, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't understand how applying pressure and forcing someone to contribute more than what they're currently doing doesn't help you develop a read.
You don't need to be looking for all 3 scum either - you only need one for Day One and then you go from there.
filing it away in the 'is this accidental TMI?' folder
I'm used to game sizes going from 9 (7v2) to 13 (10v3) so I'm not sure if 12p games here typically have 2 or typically have 3 scum - I'm guessing it depends on the PRs they have. 10v2 sounds really shitty for mafia to have to pull 5 mislynches to win, so I'd only think it'd be the case if there is extra kill power in the game, be it mafia or other-
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Mulch/cd
Tchill - but do have pause by apparent avoidance of this game
??? - left to sort
morality/pisskop - need to relook but gut says towny, can't help but be paranoid it was a strategic replace out after opening day with 2 quick votes
havingfitz - read him, but not really anything there to help me make an alignment call
BBT - like some of his pots, dislike some; recent behavior is evasive and acting like he won't talk about anything until ghostlin is dead
Srceenplay - haven't read but gut says scummy from bits and pieces
Ghostlin - really dislike his posting when I got deeper into it, Vedith didn't set off any major alarm bells, claim thing is weird but ime scum don't do that, caveat is I'm not used to MS meta rn
tictac - need to read but have had an ongoing bad feeling about him due to my impression that he is kinda sidelining and not realllly caring to find, push, lynch scum
I think I like that ordering for now but that's what I need to hammer out-
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You're both gonna need to say why so I and everyone else can, you know, tell if you're town or scum.In post 1301, Lucky2u wrote:
I'll second that.In post 1299, Srceenplay wrote:Reading back I think Panther would be a great lynch for today.-
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This reads really poorly to me.In post 1300, Lucky2u wrote:
I have. You are a town fool. Stop fighting the town players and we'll get along well.In post 1297, UnaBombaH wrote:
If I may ask: Go read my ISO and try to form your read on me.In post 1296, Lucky2u wrote:Hi everybody!
TRY to look past how I read BBT or how he looked me - I'm genuinely interested in hearing how you'll sort me.
1) in that there is no doubt/paranoia/uncertainty to the read
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2) how he says stop fighting with town players which is super duper LAMIST in one of they more egregious ways I've ever seen-
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Who looks more towny to you from your reread?In post 1309, Srceenplay wrote:
You spend all day throwing shade at Ghost but never voting him.In post 1307, PantherPunt wrote:
You're both gonna need to say why so I and everyone else can, you know, tell if you're town or scum.In post 1301, Lucky2u wrote:
I'll second that.In post 1299, Srceenplay wrote:Reading back I think Panther would be a great lynch for today.
When his lynch became inevitable you mysteriously show up and try to hammer him.
Ghost coming in after that and self hammering looked to me as him trying to protect you.-
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