Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

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VOTE: nancy

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someone is worried theyll be lynched over their jokes

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whats with this awkward post

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yeah, we are

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Why aren't you voting her?

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Nancy, do you think everyone voting you is town?

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No, I don’t.

Who isn't?

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Why do you think scum will quickhammer you on page 3?

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It’s too soon to tell at this point

But if you had to pick one scum based off how they voted you, who would it be?

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UNVOTE:

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Nancy enough with the selfmeta and theories
I want to see what you think about people's alignments.

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VOTE: eevee

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ugh
Your scumhunting is surface level, guess I should have figured

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Nobody is certain about anything. It seemed that way because we wanted to extract reactions from you. Don't take everything at face value.

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Eevee everything in your iso is either theorytalk or waffling about nancy

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Zito why dont you join us on eevee

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Well I was
Thats hardly an answer though
Why Kokichi and why not Eevee

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Nancy this is why Eevee is scum

Eevee everything in your iso is either theorytalk or waffling about nancy

wanna vote him with us?

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it can be everyone's!

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zito might be scum too, sure, but more for avoiding the eevee wagon than any of your reasons

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eh that was nai

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Is eeved not a good vote to have, brass?

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eevee*

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Tywin why vote zito over eevee?

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ew

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looks like we got a new contender for scum

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that's L-1 i think

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VOTE: zito

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Really? A lurking prod dodger is allowed to quickhammer? Nobody thought a quicklynch on D1 page 10 was possibly a bad idea?

can also lynch this

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ankamius

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actually

VOTE: tywin

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they dont need to say
assume it was eevee's work

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What post(s) are you scumreading Tywin for?

249/250 feel pretty fake

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all of them
nothing he's posted has felt town

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but ive never played with him so maybe im disliking his playstyle

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idk
i want to say it makes it less likely theyre both scum, but it's not impossible scum-zito thinks scum-tywin was too obvious there and points it out before anyone else does for the cred

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VOTE: zito

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Tywin's overreactions about the hammer are probably consistent with this incoherent thought dump - its just all a playstyle i dont like i guess

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Sugar what are your reads

Why are you assuming im town

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tywin is obviously thinking erratically here
assuming eevee would protect nobody on his wagon is ridiculous as the whole wagon cant be scum

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I would surprised if Papa Zito is scum.

why?

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It's rare his brand of intransigence after earning the stink eye from almost everyone in thread (ignoring correlations) comes from scum.

does that come from experience with scum-zito or are you just assuming scum dont act that way

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then youre assuming wrong

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SC's 290 basically mirrored my thoughts, and it's phrasing + the thinking isn't easy to fake as scum imo.

pretty easy to fake

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eddie looks town to me

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maybe

lets get zito first though

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the only one i could vote on the wagon is sugar

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btw actiondan wasnt on the wagon either

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VOTE: dan

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nd looks town to me

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VOTE: zito

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i dont get it
brass asked AD to elaborate because his reads did not include his thought process

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what how and why
i dont see anything wrong with brass's post

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what how and why
i dont see anything wrong with brass's post

Brass asked him to post the reasoning behind any of his reads, even though he apparently already agreed with some of them? What read(s) is he looking for info on and why?

Its like I said before, town has an agenda behind questions. Brass doesn't.

i still fail to see how you're jumping to this conclusion
just because he didnt mention which reads interested him automatically means he has no town agenda?

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im guessing he hasnt played with you before

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zito is the lynch, no worries

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i dont approve of the ank votes

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i dont approve of the ank votes

Too bad.

Have you played with him before?

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because youre scumreading her playstyle
as shes doing to you
you both are naturally scummy for whoever doesnt know you

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zito, sugar and someone else

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yes

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VOTE: sugar

lets do dis

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neither of these make any sense

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src can die on a sugar red flip

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sure you are

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i like how you instantly defend yourself instead of expanding on your thought process though

looks like i got it right

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sugar/src/x

x most likely zito

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placement on eevee wagon and 290 @kokichi

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@wisdom.
Not only that. You are grasping anywhere to make something stick for a lynch. You definitely flip scum.

that's describing what you're doing

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I feel like in this post you are saying you know Zito is town. Town reading Zito. Throwing shade at Zito and posturing.

Anyone else see that?
Plus wisdom with the follow up vote like “ sure thing buddy. ”.

talk to me about how this makes any sense

Ank has already said he thinks Zito is town so having the stance he said he has is normal
How is he shading Zito or posturing?

And then how does it make any sense that my follow up vote means I am buddies with Ank?

You

are trying to use nonsense to get a lynch

And it's because Sugar,

your

buddy, is starting to get the spotlight

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right.

now help me lynch sugar and i might reconsider

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no, this means he thinks zito is town based on the wagon, but not based on anything he's done, thus wants zito to do things

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replace he with she

sorry ank, it's automatic

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youre telling me how youre interpreting his post, im telling you how i am

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duh

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hai
talk to us

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ew vote this

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hai
talk to us

this game is annoying



I think Ank or Sugar is scum

Why these two?

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i think scum ank is less engaged than this

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That only half answers my first question......which one of them and why

/ is either or but gun to my head its Wisdom.

then vote me? why dont you

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so nero is voting me because he thinks im pushing a low activity wagon

as if ive ever had problems pushing active people or as if a hydra cant suddenly be active

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eddie why is sugar town

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thats not an answer

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nero seems kinda townie tho

you said this
Elaborate

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those switches span the whole game kokichi
are you trying to shade me

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town-ank is like that Nancy

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maybe you should explain y I'm scum beyond me not reading d2 till my slot was prodded?

where the hell did i say youre scum because of this?
This is your guilty conscience assuming things

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Well, day 1 lasted like 5 pages. And iirc you tunneled me for day 1 for about 80 pages in the v3 game

kokichi you are not this bad
When i have a strong scumread i tunnel
When i don't i play with my vote until i get one
This sounds like youre trying to shade me.

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that doesnt matter when youre trying to instill doubt in whoever's townreading me

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also if it was bad wheres your sugar vote?

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no it isnt
You have posts and you have d1 votes
Inactivity is just an excuse for you to misrep me

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Lazyposting at work and I dont think I can keep up with this rn.if anyone needs me please shoot me a question and Ill respond asap.

Sorry

why is your vote not on sugar

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How am I misrepping you?

by saying im voting you for inactivity

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did you have posts and votes prior to me suspecting you?
yes?
Then i had reasons to suspect you.
Claiming "there was nothing so i had to suspect inactivity" is bullshit.

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placement on eevee wagon and 290 @kokichi

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thats even worse
you decided the reason im scumreading you without even reading

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and

youre voting me for it on top of it

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yeah im not talking wifh scum anymore

vote this pls

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^
wis' scum game.

lmao
too bad for you that everyone knows this is my town game

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I mean, you can argue im emulating but calling it my scumgame is just wrong

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lel sugar just quoting my posts and calling me scum

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its ankamius, the worst, ?

Sugar, src, and either zito or brass

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how is that post town

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or hes just scum exploiting kokichi's natural scumminess

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i took your word for it that zito has been scumreading kokichi

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i dont like this game
call me when sugar is dead

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you said zito has been scumreading kokichi and thus hes town

i said he could be scum using genuine reasons to scumread kokichi because hes naturally scummy

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wow this is so bad

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theres no fucking way sugar flips anything but red here

he literally takes my posts, assigns whatever scum motivation he can to them and refuses to do any sort of thinking
see also the repeated "scum want to push a low resistance slot" which is baseless

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That context being "assuming that wisdom has a town win con this game his reasons were fallacious " nothing in that context has me saying "I am assuming wisdom is town here with bad reasoning " and I don't understand why he would ask me why I assumed he was town in the first place at all

i misunderstood you then
i thought you were saying i was town but my reads sucked and i shouldnt be sheeped
which was the main reason i didnt like that post

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VOTE: zito

i like mara's posts

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actually

VOTE: srceen

this is better than zito right now

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Town: {Nancy, Ankamius, ActionDan, Tywin}
Nulltown: {the worst, Eddie, Sugar}
Null: {Kokichi, brass}
Nullscum: {Zito, Srceenplay}

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brass what are your reads?

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VOTE: brass

I think brass is scum here

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also i dont really feel like voting zito anymore given brass and kokichi want that

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also i dont really feel like voting zito anymore given brass and kokichi want that

Didnt you just think I was town or am I thinking of someone else

youre thinking of someone else
my read on you was defaulting to town like always until you started shading me

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i think what i dont like in this game is that its missing leadership type players
everyone is saying their own thing and theres nobody to bring things and people together

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like right now id like to sheep something yet theres nothing

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obviously

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remind me why you think kokichi is scum

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Nancy Drew 39
Papa Zito

ActionDan

Tywin Lannister

Sugar Cain
the worst

Srceenplay
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Eddie Cane
brassherald

Kokichi Oma

he meant tywin, ad and zito

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she*

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eh
sadly none of that is more than playstyle disliking
i scumread him too in my first game with him and learn not to scumread him since

pedit @ank

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Mara
First of all I don't have a norm and you know it
Second, you havent played with me in ages. I play nothing like I used to

Kokichi on the other hand has played with me a lot and recently and should know not to make such comments, especially immediately after calling a vote on me bad

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...Him having a part in everything that feels like it's had scum influence on it is normal for him as town?

but do you see actual scum motivation in his posts or is it just "i dont expect town to do this this way"

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what way do you see him pushing the game?

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that vc though

Number of wagons almost equal to number of players

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tw why should i vote src

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i feel like hes more posturing than gamesolving and his readslist was awful
especially the "ank and nancy are frustrating me so they're town" part

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Brassharald is lurker vote to get that out of the way, but it's less substance than Zito, Ankarius, or Srceen, and he's basically a shitty compromise vote.

Im definitely not considering it a compromise vote

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I dont like how you claim youve made your mind up
People post, reads change

Also Ank is really obvious town

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Can you vote brass instead

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hes trolling, he edited the quote

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Mara wanna vote brass with me since its apparently your only non-me scumread

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Then wanna talk with me until you figure out im town

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Tywin might actually be scum this game.

That was my thought too
What do you think it means about brass? First thought was "hes trying to save his buddy by calling it a lurker lynch" but this feels too obvious

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What makes you so certain on Ank that youd give your life for her lynch?

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If youre town, this is 100% you disliking her playstyle and not actually finding anything scummy with her

Listen to people who have actually played with Ank

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Ank lets stay on brass

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Name one for brass, beyond lurking.

Lurking isnt a scumtell
I have said why im voting brass

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Ank lets stay on brass

Lol.
Wisdom: “ whoa whoa whoa, hold up I didn’t think you’re going to actually vote him, calm the fuck down. I was just distancing.”

ew

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I dont think you understood his "point"
Hes saying you and I are buddies

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tbh Im starting to think Tywin is just Yume levels of bad

Has anyone played with Tywin before

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zombie isnt necessarily scum?

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nevermind the zombie is scum

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This slot is 100% scum.

Nope
A little research shows that as I feared, Tywin is bad and obnoxious.
Youre after a playstyle again.

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holy fuck can someone be like op town for a minute and tell me what to feel about TyLan vs Anka?

Ank def town, Tywin 90% town

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Sigh....fuck this wagon
It makes too much sense from boredtownbrass

VOTE: Ankamius choo choo

oh come on
Ank is the only one whos towning this gane

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srceen?
Im also reconsidering eddie for reasons
But ill keep my vote on brass until i see the replacement

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Eddie what are your reads right now

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Ty isnt scum

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Eddie might be

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ank and nancy actually

theyre the two im never voting

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Can you show me what you mean Wisdom?

about what

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all of those three are town nancy
fix your reads

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also scum do hard WK occasionally Nancy
I mean Tywin is still town but not for that

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all of those three are town nancy
fix your reads

Sugar is saying that Ty white knighted. How is that not scummy?

Because it defies logic.

It doesnt defy logic
Scum often object to a popular mislynch to get the towncred afterwards

But even if it was illogical
Sugar wouldnt be scum for that

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sigh
Ank is really town though

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brass/Eddie/Kokichi/srceen should have all scum

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yeah lynch town to vig town
sounds like a plan

/sarcasm

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Brass: confirmed scum, thanks to Harmless Zombie.

what

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brass/Eddie/Kokichi/srceen should have all scum

lynch in here and vig in here

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then stay alive

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that's not bad
vengeful is good for lylo

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then im not interested in ever killing you just for your vig

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The timing is so obviously made that the first conclusion town would come to is your conclusion that they thought it could be user to frame brass

it's wifom, just ignore the zombie completely

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nancy you dont make any sense

in that scenario lynching sugar would be better than selfhammering

by selfhammering you certainly lose one town
by lynching sugar first you learn about sugar's alignment for sure, and if they are town, they also have the chance to get a scum killed

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Anyone besides myself, Ank, and Nancy is acceptable.

We agree on Ank and Nancy
I like that
What are your thoughts on brass, src and Kokichi

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@EeveeLution Army , please save Sugar tonight.

why? I doubt theyre getting killed

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let eevee do what they want

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Why townish on src

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what claim?

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i dont see anything town about that

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zzz

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I wont vote lynchbait over scum

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Just ignore her, at least shes not stubborn with her vote

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because his posts are bad

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havingfitz can be town maybe

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because
just take my word for it or dont

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Other than Srceen and Tywin I agree with your reads

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no we're going to lynch brass and then you for trying to prevent it

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Pretty sure ive commented on it

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his scummy posting in general

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yes
But thats not to defend him here
I didnt like when he shaded me and actually think he prolly flips scum

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I prefer brass

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he replaced zito and you should vote brass

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lol mollie
why do you have to replace in this slot

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i feel like hes more posturing than gamesolving and his readslist was awful
especially the "ank and nancy are frustrating me so they're town" part

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also the zombie is a scum voter, fitz replaced zito, and brass just got replaced by mollie

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The zombie is represented by the alt account, Harmless Zombie. It is controllable both directly (via a login) and indirectly (via PM) by the mafia.

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So eevee is the resurrected player but mafia control him

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Harmless zombie is scum. It's a scum voter. Mod confirmed it. Harmless zombie is lynching me.

How can anyone be this blind?

Dude
Scum can make the zombie vote them for wifom
It voted brass before you
Just disregard the zombie altogether

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has any1 missed me

Yes and id love if you didnt replace in a slot i want dead

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how is the anonymous zombie voter modconfirmed as scum? cos that isn't what he said

Post 2

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The zombie is represented by the alt account, Harmless Zombie. It is controllable both directly (via a login) and indirectly (via PM) by the mafia.

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I dont really think thats ambiguous
Mafia can control it either by logging in or pming the mod

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Who did Mollie replace?

brass, aka she's scum

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mollir im not scumreading you based on your play so thats irrelevant

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I dont share your view
mollie is not handling this differently than i expect scum mollie to