Prey Mafia - Game Over
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I haven't played enough recently to be particularly certain, but it's pretty rare day one, IIRC. Usually you'll have to look at the way people are saying things - scum seem a bit less likely to slip at surface level in longer days, IMO.In post 25, minhyukwithagun wrote:Out of curiosity, how often do town correctly identify mafia here? It seems like 12 days is counterproductive because it gives mafia more time to blend in or cover their tracks, versus something high pressure like 30 seconds.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
In post 16, Papa Zito wrote:Oh hell yes, I open this thing and there aren't 10 zillion posts.
VOTE: Enter obv
Sheeping your scum read? Interesting tactic.In post 35, implosion wrote:
Ever-so-slightly worse than random.Out of curiosity, how often do town correctly identify mafia here?
VOTE: Enter-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
My brain wants to process this as a question, but there is no question mark at the end, which leaves me to believe this is a statement.In post 37, implosion wrote:It is, isn't it!
Would you like to explain why you are making statements (which are far more in opposition of open discussion than asking questions)?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
No. I don't think I've been serious yet. Just enjoying RVS while we're here.In post 39, implosion wrote:"open discussion" is a very nebulous thing; I don't see how making a statement is somehow in opposition to it.
Are you serious in calling Papa Zito my scumread?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I already have.In post 51, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm just giddy to see how you explain this.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
You misspelled "scum."In post 53, BrightEyedFish wrote:I'm lost.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
People have applied effort by joining the discussion and changing votes. He has done none of that.In post 58, mcqueen wrote:
no because the game just started. what effort are you expecting from him this far?In post 47, Enter wrote:General lack of effort. And gut reasons that I don't fully have words for yet. Want to join me?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Why? It only takes a few posts for someone to indicate they have no intention of scum hunting.In post 61, mcqueen wrote:give the man time? we’re two pages in. why are you so desperate to push something that’s hardly there?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
You seem to have pretty strong feelings without dropping a vote. Interesting.In post 64, mcqueen wrote:it only takes a few posts for someone to indicate they have every intention of nitpicking throughout the game, too-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Yep. We'll get to them later. You seem like you're building a case. Wanna drop a vote?does anyone else satisfy the criteria for 'general lack of effort?'
Also in the post where you place your vote, please also talk about misrepping me by pretending my first question was serious when I already said it wasn't.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
An appropriate reaction.In post 75, mcqueen wrote:why?
I disagree. How do you feel about placing your vote on a relevant wagon?In post 77, implosion wrote:
Every one of his posts last page/the tone of his reaction to Enter in general.In post 75, mcqueen wrote:why?-
-
Enter for the homies
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
You seem hesitant to vote. Other people also seem hesitant to vote. Correct me if I'm wrong but your strongest case should match your vote, unless the player is L-1, for example. No one is L-1 right now, so case who you're voting, or vote who you're casing.In post 85, mcqueen wrote:
Because calling someone out doesn't always necessarily warrant a vote.In post 83, Enter wrote:Why not?
I just don't understand why you've now asked two people for a vote, when your wagon is already at 4, which, although not close to lynch, is a sizable amount for 4 pages.
PEdit: Also that.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Enter Wagon Stage Left
Sorry I couldn't resist.
You should vote me now that I'm back at L-2. It will be fun, I promise.In post 90, skitter30 wrote:
yeah sometimesIn post 71, Varsoon wrote:Does A50 usually claim early?
Also don't understand the Enter wagon at all.
whether or not the claim is germane to his actual role is a different story
and i kinda hate like every one of enter's posts?
what are you thinking about him?
==
yeah i'm thinking about itIn post 78, Enter wrote:Yep. We'll get to them later. You seem like you're building a case. Wanna drop a vote?
kinda trying to gauge if what i'm not liking is a personality/playstyle thing and not a scum thing; i can't tell yet
==
not sure what your'e referring toIn post 78, Enter wrote:Also in the post where you place your vote, please also talk about misrepping me by pretending my first question was serious when I already said it wasn't.
if you're talking about the statement thing - when you said you weren't being serious i thought you were referring to not being serious about calling implosion's papa zito read an actual scumread. the reason why it's confusing for me is because your whole interaction there is like very weirdly accusatory and it seemed to me like you were seriously pushing implosion for making a statement instead of a question (which is, imo, an absurd reason to push someone)
idk your tone is very very very weird and like you say it isn't serious but the way you present things makes me think you think you're making valid points (when you're not) and i can't tell if i'm misreading what you mean in the first place or if your'e walking back things when people object to what you're saying.
also you ignored me pointing out that your reason for scumreading bef rn is quite awful, and calling the wagon 'relevant' does not, in fact, add legitimacy to the that read
No kidding. At least it provides for a healthy rotation. Let's see who will step up and who never moves! Find out next time, on...
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I somehow missed this, and I apologize. It's extra awkward because I can't remember if I was talking to McQueen or implosion, but I think it must have been McQueen, because implosion is still on one of the only two wagons of relevance.In post 80, Varsoon wrote:What makes your wagon not relevant?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I certainly hope not, the game would become unfavorably awkward.In post 121, mcqueen wrote:y’all think there is scum in the neighborhood? is that usually the case? sorry, like I said i’ve never been in one and I’m not sure I’ve been in a game that had one at all.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Skitter feels weird. I don't like it.
Reading this post sent me through a rollercoaster of emotions.In post 130, redtea wrote:
Not necessarily, but it's common to do so just for that extra nudge. I can respect a cautious playstyle though.In post 125, mcqueen wrote: I mean I tend to vote as necessary. I made an RVS vote. I just chose to be sparse because, to reiterate, it was clear who I was pressuring. Is the point of a vote, if not to lynch, to apply pressure? If that’s already there, is a vote obligatory?
This is a very neutral read list, boring as bread. You think this is just some town spat then, maybe with a poke from scum? Do you have any fingers to point?In post 128, implosion wrote:I want to call BEF, Chara, Enter, and actually maybe mcqueen town.-
-
Enter for the homies
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Gimme a minute, I was trying to do something. Mum, you're right though, one wagon sucks.In post 148, Chara wrote:Persivul needs to be lynched for calling Zito Papa.
Enter should do something besides try to accrue votes because i'm townreading his entire behaviour, but i also don't find it useful at all to actually catching scum. if we're talking about fostering meaningful discussion, having a single wagon is about as boring as it will get.
Join me here?
VOTE: Varsoon-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
@mod, you missed oneIn post 160, Varsoon wrote:Also, I wanna make something fairly clear.
VOTE: Varsoon
This should clear things up for Chara, at least.In post 162, Xtoxm wrote:Please note that VCs 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 were incorrect and have been updated.
Spoiler:-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Fair Elyse.In post 167, Persivul wrote:
Yes people, put him back there. The histrionics have become annoying.In post 158, Enter wrote:To people not taking this seriously, please put me back at L-1.
I rescind my intent.
Town: redtea, varsoon
Scum: Percival
VOTE: Percival-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
A haiku
You just don't like fun
Wonder if the cause is scum
We will soon find out-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Why it autocorrects "redtea" to "testes" I have no clue and sincerely apologize.In post 202, Enter wrote:Testes read is something I can't explain at the moment. Sorry.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Aye.In post 228, Xtoxm wrote:In post 227, Enter wrote:Are we allowed to quote neighborhood?You are not allowed to quote from any PTs.
BEF have you played scum before?
How comfortable do you feel playing scum?-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
You and zito are the only two people who seem to think fish don't look worried.In post 239, Persivul wrote:If you were in the hood, you'd read that as fish kinda mocking enter, not fish worried about enter. I noted in hood that 66 shows that fish isn't worried about enter. You'd get it if you were in there. Enter's all likeI'm getting people riled up and they don't know how to react, and we're likeNo, that's not really happening.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I take that back, if BEF flipped town, I'd prolly flip Minyu over persi.
Persi doesn't seem all too scummy, just feels fake and has a larger than necessary sense of self-importance that also feels fake. Zito's feels real, tho, which is why he's (maybe) town (zito's been kinda raining on my parade in the hood, too, but his feels like he didn't conjur it up for the sake of squashing the hopes of dreams of the people who play with him, seems like just him)-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
@BEF
I want to know if you feel comfortable playing scum. I'm not going to meta you, I don't read games I'm not in (most of the time). If you don't answer me, that's your perogative. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be held against you in a mafia game (unless no one notices).
Like I said in hood, you have a way with words that is exceptional. Someday I'll just stop talking.In post 256, redtea wrote:Considering BEF is in the neighborhood, I had assumed Enter wasn't looking out for his reaction, but those of other people's.
Seeing his recent posts, I don't know if this is just more of his games or he really picked up something on BEF.
Sorry to bring up the hood again, but, if I were to take a guess on this:
Personally, if I were in BEF's position, I would play along to see what reads could be accrued. There is a PT after all, it could be a good use for it. This is the kind of attitude Enter might have been looking for.
Now the first responses in the main thread could be seen as playing along, but long past that, up to now, BEF takes issue with it (worried or not). Which may be why Enter seems to be legitimately pushing him now?
I don't think it's working though.
As an aside, keep in mind it is highly likely one of the neighbors is scum.
No games right now, though, just lynching. Personally, I would have liked it if people played along, but noooo, people just kinda sat and watched. Guess I shouldn't have said anything in the hood, people would have actually tried to lynch me and things might have gone much smoother. This is what I get for spilling the beans. Me and my big mouth.
Ha, it's fine? I think.In post 257, Papa Zito wrote:Yeah I'm just kindof an ass, call it becoming jaded watching people do things over 10 years, apologies in advance.
From what I can tell I'm on the same wavelength with His Majesty the King on most everything, which scares me a little bit.
I also don't wanna kill Chara yet which is a new an exciting experience.
Have you played w/ Chara before?
======
In other news this seems like the sort of game where the mod would give us an all - town hood (but wouldn't tell us for the purpose of balance), so once we get a little more concrete in our reads, I'm ok w/ using hood chat again.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Agreed, which is why two of my lynch propositions are from the hood.In post 263, Papa Zito wrote:
We played together in this game which was a lot longer ago than I thought hmm.In post 258, Enter wrote:Have you played w/ Chara before?
======
In other news this seems like the sort of game where the mod would give us an all - town hood (but wouldn't tell us for the purpose of balance), so once we get a little more concrete in our reads, I'm ok w/ using hood chat again.
If we get a red flip from the hood crew I'm fine going back there but until then it may as well be Chernobyl.
In other news Robert2424 continues to be inscrutable, I'd appreciate some help increasing his scrutableness.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Yes, butIn post 268, Chara wrote:didn't you just say you were thinking there's a good chance the hood is all town? i know that's an obvious question, but.
there are two ways to approach this:
1. Lynch outside hood to see if it comes up red (if so, and we can draw conclusions that the other is red, then inside is green)
2. Lynch scummiest inside hood to see if it comes up green (if two people come up green in hood, it's p safe to say the rest are green, IMO)
Sure this is a brave stance to take, but hey, I like to take chances.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Maybe. Your name looks familiar, but I just went through all the games on that account and I didn't see you or Not Chara there. Do you have another alt or did you hydra?In post 279, Chara wrote:well, skitter is getting other townpoints in a more general sense too, but this has made me confident enough to call her a townread.
i remember reading Enter way back when he was Extrapolated_Eagle (is that correct, Enter)? so that may be subconsciously affecting my read.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Yeah, you're right. I just got excited. I don't remember playing anything other than VT so I got a little excited getting to be in a hood. (although my game history says I was in a hood game once? My memory is shoddy)In post 283, redtea wrote:@skitter30
My sig is hidden (post count I believe) but you can view it on my profile, it has a link to my old account. However it is from 4/5 years ago, so. There's also a short game on this account.
Elsewhere, it's mostly IM games or live. Over all, not the most experienced.
Until we're de facto masons? Sounds like a plan. Wouldn't vote on someone in there specifically to achieve this, though.In post 263, Papa Zito wrote: If we get a red flip from the hood crew I'm fine going back there but until then it may as well be Chernobyl.
I'm sorry friend but both of those conclusions are terrible. Especially so if it turns out there's a third party.In post 270, Enter wrote:
Yes, butIn post 268, Chara wrote:didn't you just say you were thinking there's a good chance the hood is all town? i know that's an obvious question, but.
there are two ways to approach this:
1. Lynch outside hood to see if it comes up red (if so, and we can draw conclusions that the other is red, then inside is green)
2. Lynch scummiest inside hood to see if it comes up green (if two people come up green in hood, it's p safe to say the rest are green, IMO)
Sure this is a brave stance to take, but hey, I like to take chances.-
-
Enter for the homies
-
-
Enter for the homies
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Yeah, I sort of remember her. We were in SCP mafia together and maybe she was a hydra head in YCBA IV?In post 290, Chara wrote:
i read a few games my friends were in before i started playing myself. Not Chara's join date is when i first started for real. i don't know if you remember A Real Scourge, she was one. your name was familiar enough that i found a game and remembered a few things that stood out. it was a while ago however so i don't plan on reading hazy memories of old games i read as meta. :>In post 282, Enter wrote:Maybe. Your name looks familiar, but I just went through all the games on that account and I didn't see you or Not Chara there. Do you have another alt or did you hydra?
I honestly don't like trying to meta players that I haven't played with.
PEdit: You could join me on Persivul or BEF-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I guess there could be three? IDK, what makes sense here?In post 301, Papa Zito wrote:
So I'm reading this as Enter somehow knowing there are 2 scum in the game.In post 298, Enter wrote:we suspect the other person outside the neighborhood is the other scum
Am I nuts-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
+1.In post 327, Almost50 wrote:
Why is it bad to leave a vote on someone -even you no longer SR them- when: A) You have not thought of a better wagon to join, and B) the wagon you're on isIn post 325, Chara wrote:actually no, i'm a fool.
VOTE: minyu
he's still voting skitter and liked my explanation.@L-5???-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Devil's advocate: Chara switched her scum read because she wanted to be amiable => townread.In post 332, mcqueen wrote:
Alone this (BEF's 53) post seems NAI to me. In ISO, I get where Chara was coming from.In post 242, skitter30 wrote:also i think 53 is kinda townie. i'm not really getting a projection of confidence, it feels kinda townie to me; i also don't really see baiting here-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
Robert cuz he's a lurker and I haven't seen him say anything that makes me think he's town.
And I'm townreading pinyu cuz pretty much this:In post 324, Chara wrote:never played with pinyu. based on his unfamiliarity with forum mafia and reference to games like ToS (which was my guess) i think it's reasonable he could have some trouble here. i suppose he could be scum who doesn't know what he's supposed to do, but if we consider a scum pinyu i'd think he would at least drop a townread on somebody someone else said was town, or else take a cue from the scumbuddy he must have (assuming no daytalk).
it's a very weak read but enough that i prefer a different wagon.-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
-
-
Enter for the homies
- for the homies
- for the homies
- Posts: 3901
- Joined: December 27, 2018
I'm following. What's your imp read?In post 349, skitter30 wrote:yeah, both of them are kinda scummy to me rn. on balance i think they probably aren't scum together tho
(ie at this stage of the game i don't see anything contradictory or problematic with seeing them both as scum)