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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:21 am

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In post 722, Enter wrote:I didn't mean to quote that. :/
Hi. I have a question for you in . Please respond.


In post 720, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 719, Elbirn wrote:VOTE: BEF
Why me and not redtea or enter, I thought you wanted one of them lynched today?
Hi. I have a question for you in . Please respond.

In addition, walk me through your redtea vote. Your argument seems to be:

1. redtea sees she is the leading wagon
2. redtea sees a counterwagon on Robert
3. redtea sees that deadline is very close
4. redtea sees several players off wagon claiming they will hammer at deadline
5. Therefore, redtea comes up with the perfect plan of starting a
new
wagon, and then promptly fails to push it, ensuring it will fail.
6. After noting that she thought the wagon wasn't actually new, she leaves her vote there anyway.

And these are the moves of a scum player seeking a townie mislynch/her own survival. Is that correct?
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:21 am

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2 in a row baby
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:26 am

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In post 725, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 722, Enter wrote:I didn't mean to quote that. :/
Hi. I have a question for you in . Please respond.
Hi. I'll direct you here:
In post 723, Enter wrote:
In post 721, Enter wrote:Persivul is starting to look more town to me. Hmm.

@redtea you should vote Robert.

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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:27 am

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In post 726, Papa Zito wrote:2 in a row baby
2 what in a row?
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:29 am

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In post 728, Enter wrote:
In post 726, Papa Zito wrote:2 in a row baby
2 what in a row?
Pagetops.

Ok, I'll take a trip on the insanity merry-go-round with you. What exactly has suddenly caused you to stop and ponder his alignment? Like, what sudden change in Persivul's posting made you hit the pause button and go hmm.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:32 am

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In post 683, Persivul wrote:
In post 681, Enter wrote:Something the players should look at is the fact that no one from our PT is voting for redtea right now.
Why? It's not active. They should be on Robert over redtea because Robert's ISO sucks, tea's doesn't suck.
I'm noticing correlations between my reads and the people who have posted in my neighborhood.
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In post 728, Enter wrote:
In post 726, Papa Zito wrote:2 in a row baby
2 what in a row?
Pagetops.

Ok, I'll take a trip on the insanity merry-go-round with you. What exactly has suddenly caused you to stop and ponder his alignment? Like, what sudden change in Persivul's posting made you hit the pause button and go hmm.
Haha, I'm not quite sure what you mean about insanity. What's insane about it?

I like persivul's 669, 671, 672, and 715. Partially because I agree with him, partially because he's making decent points, and partially because I'm townreading redtea and his thought process follows.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:37 am

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In post 725, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 722, Enter wrote:I didn't mean to quote that. :/
Hi. I have a question for you in . Please respond.


In post 720, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 719, Elbirn wrote:VOTE: BEF
Why me and not redtea or enter, I thought you wanted one of them lynched today?
Hi. I have a question for you in . Please respond.

In addition, walk me through your redtea vote. Your argument seems to be:

1. redtea sees she is the leading wagon
2. redtea sees a counterwagon on Robert
3. redtea sees that deadline is very close
4. redtea sees several players off wagon claiming they will hammer at deadline
5. Therefore, redtea comes up with the perfect plan of starting a
new
wagon, and then promptly fails to push it, ensuring it will fail.
6. After noting that she thought the wagon wasn't actually new, she leaves her vote there anyway.

And these are the moves of a scum player seeking a townie mislynch/her own survival. Is that correct?
Basically, yeah.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:46 am

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In post 723, Enter wrote:
In post 721, Enter wrote:Persivul is starting to look more town to me. Hmm.

@redtea you should vote Robert.

@MOD I'm visiting family and moving overseas, so I'll be v/la until Feb 15
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[5] redtea:
skitter30, implosion, Chara, Almost50, BrightEyedFish
[3] Robert2424:
Papa Zito, Persivul, Enter
[1] mcqueen:
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[1] Persivul:
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[1] BrightEyedFish:
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[2] Not Voting:
Varsoon, mcqueen

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch


The Day 1 deadline is in
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:47 am

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In post 731, BrightEyedFish wrote: Basically, yeah.
Woops, looks like the insanity merry-go-round was next door.

Uh

Can you uh

walk me through this then


In post 730, Enter wrote:I like persivul's 669, 671, 672, and 715. Partially because I agree with him, partially because he's making decent points, and partially because I'm townreading redtea and his thought process follows.
Ok, so it's his Robert push itself.

... I went back and reviewed your isos to get context and I think I understand what happened here ty.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:50 am

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In post 733, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 731, BrightEyedFish wrote: Basically, yeah.
Woops, looks like the insanity merry-go-round was next door.

Uh

Can you uh

walk me through this then


In post 730, Enter wrote:I like persivul's 669, 671, 672, and 715. Partially because I agree with him, partially because he's making decent points, and partially because I'm townreading redtea and his thought process follows.
Ok, so it's his Robert push itself.

... I went back and reviewed your isos to get context and I think I understand what happened here ty.
Why should I walk you through Enter's post? He can do it himself.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:56 am

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Sorry, that was unclear. I put that line in the middle to show it was 2 different responses. I just want you to walk me through the redtea stuff.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 am

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This is quite a long V/LA so I may still prod you, but i'll be a bit more lenient. Please aim to post every 48 hours if you can.
This should be achievable, just letting you know just in case.
BrightEyedFish wrote:Why should I walk you through Enter's post? He can do it himself.
These exchanges are golden.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:13 am

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Enter do you want to be masons? You and I are going to be masons. I changed my mind about Varsoon, you and I need to sort some things out
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:21 am

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VOTE: Robert

Hooray for hypocrisy, I dont know that I'll be on at deadline so hereyago
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:26 am

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In post 737, Elbirn wrote:Enter do you want to be masons? You and I are going to be masons. I changed my mind about Varsoon, you and I need to sort some things out
I'm ok with this. I'm feeling pretty shaky on my scum reads right now and it's intimidating that other players feel so confident. What do you need to tell me?
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:06 am

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In post 672, Persivul wrote:Compare/contrast to redtea, the other wagon. She has fewer posts, but they actually have content:
- questions mcqueen
- interaction with mcqueen, pressure on implosion
- follow up with implosion, interaction with skitter
And it goes on.

I really don't get why anyone's voting redtea over Robert.
Maybe Because i'm town? lol.
In post 673, Papa Zito wrote:I'm anticipating another wall of random Chatbot words so I'll just point out here that Robert once again dodged my question.
In post 668, Robert2424 wrote:Like Enter, I'm mainly busy playing KH3.

That game came out yesterday, this game started 10 days ago, try again.
I mainly have 3 town reads atm. Implosion, a slight A50 town read, only cause he is half crazy, and elbirn.
BEF is mainly null, along with skitter and Redtea. Chara is also null
Enter is slight scum read for over eagerness.
Papa for not paying attention,
and mcqueen for policy and mainly spamming.
Varsoon is to hard to read to say any read on, in one sense I've found his posts a bit more helpful but at the same time I feel our reads are entirely different and wondering if maybe his posting is messing with me like A50 dose.
What in the world.

In post 661, BrightEyedFish wrote:I still don't like redtea being lynched. But I'll ISO red and Robert and see if one of them pings me for a lynch today.
Talk to me about redtea.
What was your question? I'll try to answer it.
In post 709, redtea wrote:@Elbirn
About A50:
Mostly, I can't get the slightest read on him. He is blatantly unhelpful to town, hints that he's taking it all in and holding his cards close, but for all I know he'll keep drip-feeding his thoughts and then make more excuses. So maybe he's scum playing a game, but he's weirdly confident, so I wanted to poke it. Of course, he doesn't give.

About implosion:
I'm torn between agreeing it's a good attitude and the fact that example was low-hanging fruit.
Hadn't gone through his posts when I questioned your read, but now that I have:
From 318, I don't think both implosion and A50 would be scum. My vote's on A50 still, and is my preferred vote between the two of them. The best way to put it is I don't trust A50, because he has given me nothing to trust. That may be a tick mark above gut feeling, but for D1 it's something.
At the time implosion started needling Varsoon, it could've be taken as jumping on a viable target (to mislynch or build cred), but jumping off of 664, I believe I understand what he's trying to say here. Like there's a hidden intent to the aggressiveness. More staged than real exasperation. Either to push him back or misconstrue his character.
His town read of Enter and BEF make sense with his Varsoon read. But that was early game, and it's possible I encouraged it.
In conclusion: he's town for today, meaning I wouldn't lynch him now. Unlike most of the time where I compulsively list possibilities regardless of my read, in this case the way I interpret his actions could easily flip-flop.
In post 668, Robert2424 wrote: Enter is slight scum read for over eagerness. Papa for not paying attention, and mcqueen for policy and mainly spamming. Secondly, I work on Jets, my days very from 8 hour shifts to 12's. Why? Cause I'm in the Military. This game is hardly a priority. However I'm trying to get my mafia fix before I go on Deployment. So when I say I'm playing Kingdom Hearts 3, I litterally devoting most of free time to it. I try to check this once a day, if not twice.

Varsoon is to hard to read to say any read on, in one sense I've found his posts a bit more helpful but at the same time I feel our reads are entirely different and wondering if maybe his posting is messing with me like A50 dose.
Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Implosion
I think I got everybody, but I'm on my phone away from my notes and going off of memory over a confusing game due to the players mostly.

Course I could be being thrown for a loop
Your stance on mcqueen makes less sense than crocs coming back and even if you explained it to me I'm not confident I would understand, and I couldn't tell you if that is on you or me for the possible reason one of us is insane.
Your ambivalence on Varsoon sounds weak. Not the fact he is a neutral read, because that is understandable, but the non-specific reasons. "Could be being thrown for a loop", it's one thing to think it, and another to say it, especially like that.

I know Zito wasn't asking me, but Persivul sounds like he's trying to lead people along, and using the pressing deadline to obfuscate the sudden push.
Would rather lynch him, actually. Decent SR on him anyway. This doesn't have to do with any read on Robert, for the record. This could easily be a bus.
VOTE: Persivul
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Mcqueen is a policy, naking voting is crap and don't care what people say. It looks scummy to me, hence he's on my scum read.

@Persivul, I do have a question for you. Say you somehow do manage to get me lynched today, would it be Rocket Science that when I flip town, cause I'm going to Flip town, that it was you who pushed so hard to lynch a townie that you should be on the chopping block?


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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:20 am

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implosion already explained it in depth and skitter had talked about it before that.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 741, Chara wrote:implosion already explained it in depth and skitter had talked about it before that.
Well you're wrong, let's lynch robert.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:27 am

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In post 740, Robert2424 wrote: Mcqueen is a policy, naking voting is crap and don't care what people say. It looks scummy to me, hence he's on my scum read.
There is less than 24 hours to deadline. You are the only mcqueen voter. Clearly your contention that "only scums do naked votes" isn't swaying anyone. How are you going to mcqueen lynched?
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:32 am

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In post 742, Enter wrote:
In post 741, Chara wrote:implosion already explained it in depth and skitter had talked about it before that.
Well you're wrong, let's lynch robert.
nah. he's being town. his arguments are bad, though.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:39 am

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In post 725, Papa Zito wrote:5. Therefore, redtea comes up with the perfect plan of starting a new wagon, and then promptly fails to push it, ensuring it will fail.
6. After noting that she thought the wagon wasn't actually new, she leaves her vote there anyway.
yeah so this is like the one thing that's kinda townie from her iso because it's explicitly going against what i would be doing there as scum

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In post 730, Enter wrote:I'm noticing correlations between my reads and the people who have posted in my neighborhood.
can you say this sentence again? i'm not following what you're trying to say here

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In post 732, Xtoxm wrote:[5] redtea: skitter30, implosion, Chara, Almost50, BrightEyedFish
[3] Robert2424: Papa Zito, Persivul, Enter
i kinda like the composition fo the redtea wagon better than the robert wagon

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In post 740, Robert2424 wrote:Mcqueen is a policy, naking voting is crap and don't care what people say. It looks scummy to me, hence he's on my scum read.
not sure if this is how scum reacts to being pushed here because of their mcqueen vote when they're actively being wagoned and there's an active cw to them
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:49 am

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In post 744, Chara wrote:
In post 742, Enter wrote:
In post 741, Chara wrote:implosion already explained it in depth and skitter had talked about it before that.
Well you're wrong, let's lynch robert.
nah. he's being town. his arguments are bad, though.
Please explain.
can you say this sentence again? i'm not following what you're trying to say here
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:40 am

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Oh, I feel I should claim this before tonight. My role PM specifies that I cant use neuromods and therefore cant gain new abilities. Not sure what that means but probably dont waste night actions on me
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:43 am

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it sounds like there's a role that grants abilities and that you can't be targeted with those abilities.
obviously don't target me with them either, seeing as i'm ascetic.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:44 am

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In post 746, Enter wrote:Please explain.
high stubborness and low survivability. it's towny.
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