Are you not excited to play with me, homie??In post 33, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well fuck I was excited to play with him
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The BEST thing in this game is THERE'S NI BLOODY NIGHT KILL!
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Well, there's no NK so I can confirm I am with not much fear.
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I believe I've mixed my games.. AGAIN. I thought this one was NIGHTLESS! *Sigh*In post 46, DuckDuckJab wrote:I thought getting nightkilled was your favorite thing?
I sure need to stop playing too many games and with too many accounts.
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Not really.. (Com'on. Get a hint)In post 51, DarkLightA wrote:Are you claiming bulletproof?
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I don't buy it either, but you better let me be for today at the very least (and I mean, if you are TOWN).
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I forgot there are people who play me for the first time.In post 83, themilkcartonkid wrote:Why did he actually say there was no nk. I mean, hes not going to come right out and say it, but theres no way this isn't scum
OK, I'll explain. I may have a global Doctor shot or two. Happy now?
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You should unvote NOW... (if you are Town)
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Why do you think it's "info"? The way you're phrasing this makes it look like some kind of truth that I should not have known. *Thinking*In post 91, themilkcartonkid wrote:@ddj how did he get this info as town? I cant find it in the role message nor the info? How is this soft townslip? Calling the stabbyduck as partner.
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I can't say. Let's just say I'm playing with 4 or 5 different accounts as we speak (some may not be solo)In post 98, Thor665 wrote:
What are your current active accounts?In post 54, Almost50 wrote:I sure need to stop playing too many games and with too many accounts.
VOTE: Almost50
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Because at least one is not outed yet. Also it might be talking about ongoing games indirectly.
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Press C to confirmIn post 110, Gamma Emerald wrote:Press X to doubt
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Also,@Gamma: I'm wondering when you will learn to leave me alone on D1?
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I know you're asking for accounts. You know 3 of my personal accounts already. Anything more may or may not be relevant to anything I may or may not have said. Thank you very much for being attentive.In post 117, Thor665 wrote:
Okay, how about all the others?In post 109, Almost50 wrote:Because at least one is not outed yet. Also it might be talking about ongoing games indirectly.
And it's not ongoing games, it's accounts.
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You don't want to know.In post 170, joges wrote: Page 2What do you mean by this?
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Not again!
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This is a good case on surface level. However, anyone who has seen your scum play in a couple of 2 recent games (including one I saw you from the modding slot) I can see this coming from scum you over town you.In post 182, Thor665 wrote:He did an interesting slip that might be alingment relevant.
He declared it was an innocent error due to another game he's in.
We can't discuss ongoing games.
We can ask for accounts.
I can do my own research about ongoing games with certain info without needing to discuss them.
He's aware of this and is being oddly cagey in his responses to me - I suspect because he's aware.
Sheep me?
I am referring to:
Overkill 1
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Check the games I linked. I could go dig up more, but these two were recent enough. NEVER underestimate Thor's scum game.In post 187, skitter30 wrote:p-edit why is this scum!thor indicative?
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Because you know me well enough AND because it's shallow reasoning that still looks like something for the unsuspecting naked eye.In post 189, Thor665 wrote:Why scum me OVER town me?
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I have only seen one or two people say they can tell your scum game from your town game with any confidence (and be right about it). One of then is the RR hydra, and I don't recall who the other is (if there was another).In post 190, Thor665 wrote:people have been claiming recently I'm super obvious as scum
But I know some established players explicitly said they either can't read you or have seen them try and got it wrong. (Ex: Jingle)
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Hence, the "notIn post 194, Lady Angel wrote:You realize this isn't unusual for me, right?again" comment.
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It happens in my games too.
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Isn't the cold war over already??
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ROTFLMGO. Be thankful I didn't join with my Austin Powers alt then.In post 226, Robert2424 wrote:
Honestly?In post 205, CheekyTeeky wrote:
if I ever go with the flow you should lynch me immediately.In post 203, Robert2424 wrote:Cheeky seem too...go with the flow.
What are your thoughts on A50?
I feel like he's littarry trying role play his/her profile picture. I personally don't like his post thus far, seems more carefree and lets do things for the sake of doing them.
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Not if I'm the only one voting him though.
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Well then it'd be hard to explain, because you'd have to see it to understand. Town!Thor takes his time and tried to look from different angles before he puts his vote down on someone. Scum!Thor is good at fabricating a case from scratch and making it look like a good case to someone skimming the thread. You need to look close enough to tell the difference. And besides, he does know me well, and has even been scum with me before, so I'm not buying a player of his caliber trying to mislynch me on D1 based on absolutely nothing. Not unless he doesn't want to waste a shot at me overnight, because he couldn't tell if I was crumbing PR or baiting the NK as a VT or what the hell I am doing, and would rather not make the wrong decision.In post 253, skitter30 wrote:ok, let's assume that i don't have the time or patience rn to metadive him - explain what about those games makes you think he's scum here
is it just that you think his reasoning is shallow?
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Did I? THAT is the trick. I can literally soft on my first post and no one would notice, or I could FAKE a PR as VT and scum would fall for it. I mean, I overdid it the last time and Gamma was Scum and picked up on it, but if it's a crumb it usually goes unnoticed and often enough seen as "fluff" by most (PP was Gamma's scum p in that game and he didn't notice anything until Gamma pointed it out in their scum thread, and their 3rd was DrDolittle who had modded a game which started simultaneously with that game, seen me crumb my role in a different way and still didn't see my crumb in the game with him/PP/Gamma until it was pointed out to him). On the other hand, someone like BuJaber knows well not to fall for the bait because I did it to him personally and he fell for it and shot me as a VT.
tl'dr I may or may not have crumbed something or another, and neither town nor scum will be able to tell unless I point it out myself or I get flipped.
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Also, are we lynching Robert because he is the original Bond or because his wife loves Austin Powers? What exactly is the case there because I can't see anything AI in his ISO.
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I'm no rookie either, Cheeky! And HE DID fall for it the last time I played Scum!him. But that's not even what I'm saying. I'm saying he's skeptical and doesn't want to risk it. He doesn't know if I'm for real or if I'm trolling, so he would rather lynch or at least push me to get a claim. Going into the night not knowing what the hell I am or have been doing is a nightmare to scum.. ALWAYS.In post 265, CheekyTeeky wrote:So you think Thor - who you've been touting as ze scum lord - fell for it?
As for "falling for it", MASTINA did, and she modded me in one of my earliest larges and wrote a book about my play in SU2 based on her seeing my play in her GISTOU. I'm willing to bet you now on our next 3-5 games together (the ones I roll TOWN in) and I dare you to tell what my role is with any degree of confidence in ANY of them. Tell me after we've played 5 games together in the future (feel free to include this one as the first). Am I a PR or am I VT?? Simple question, but you need not "guess" cuz that's still a 50-50. I want you to answer truthfully to yourself and tell me if your answer was right post-game, and how much confidence you had in that answer being correct based on my D1 play. (It's always D1. After that it may become apparent).
Like, I am a bit lazy now but you can check my wiki. I had a run of 5-7 games where I was always the N1 kill, and I was a VT in all of them (obe exception I was actually the N2 kill, but only bc I replaced in on D2). In that agme both Scum and Serial Killer shot me. (I'm not outing the SK who did that, after I had EXPLICITLY CLAIMED VT)
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Town and I'd bet the game on it.
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@Everyone:
If the choice is between me outing an alt or losing a game I will choose the latter. It's not even a guaranteed loss as the town could still win without me (a little but harder, but still very much possible), so the choice is actually for me to out a secret alt or to get lynched, and I certainly will pick the latter.
This is the end of the discussion here. Thank you very much.
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@skitter: I am done talking to you too. I offered my case and provided links, and I can't be arsed babysitting you or spoon feeding you. You go read those games or don't. Up to you.
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Not gonna. Feel free to vote me for it.In post 313, Trivium wrote:
This is really scummy or really bad, leaning scummy. Help us understand the points you yourself are making or there's no point in you making those points. Don't just throw homework at us.In post 311, Almost50 wrote:@skitter: I am done talking to you too. I offered my case and provided links, and I can't be arsed babysitting you or spoon feeding you. You go read those games or don't. Up to you.I did lay down a bloody case. I explained it and I offered links to previous games with Thor.I am not your mamma and I'm not going change your diapers for you.
You know what? You guys don't even deserve my attention anymore. Why do I even bother trying to play the game intelligently? Everybody seems to be content in being stupid and turning it into a guessing game.
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"Off Thor"?? With my single vote???In post 322, Robert2424 wrote:unvote
Vote A50
I have to agree. Previous games can be used as experience, but seems like your trying to off Thor early here while not provided much content to begin with. Your proving you want to be just a distraction.
VOTE: A50
How about this? You guys can enjoy playing the game without my role.
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I kinda think scum's got this by the nuts. There are several slots that never got questioned and never been put in the spotlight, and some that have been brought to light and their wagons were resisted strongly.
UNVOTE:
Just so as I don't get blamed for it post-game.
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@BuJ: I think your slot is own, so I would appeal to you to ISO me and try to guess something or another. You are good enough, mate.
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And I mean something as a role crumb. I didn't do it as obvious as Gamma would describe as "a meat loaf not a crumb" this time and I'm suspicious of him here because I think THAT is frustrating him. However, if my case on Thor was met with such resentment then I fear having no case beyond literally this on Gamma will be even less likely to lead to anything hut people hating me more.
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Read list is easy. Ending the gambit short is not an option. We lose more by it that we lose by lynching me.In post 332, DuckDuckJab wrote:@A50 - Give me a full readlist please. If they're all null put them all at null if you have to
Also fwiw I think your gambit failed. It might be time to cut your losses if you ARE town, and go for a lesser of two evils plan B. Whatever your alignment is I cannot stop your lynch if things remain the same here. My best defense of your slot right now is literally "he's A50".
-BuJ
Lets's see..
Solid Town: DDJ + CT
Likely Town: LA + skitter + Trivium
Null: milky + joges + Robert + DLA
Scummy: Gamma + Thor + Lol
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Learn to count. I put myself @L-2 with my vote.In post 335, Robert2424 wrote:The problem with A50 now is that he self voted. However, I'm not familiar with the mod. So I have no idea if Jester is a possible role. If its not, its not a good tactic to self vote. It not only annoys the crap out of me (this dose not give people permission for other people reading this to do it as well), it serves no point. If your town, you have no business self voting, it looks entirely a desperate move. Why is he so freaked out, it was only 2 votes on him again? I'm reading A50 as a scum read. So I have to pop the question.
@Mod, is Jester a possible role here?
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Yeah, saw that in the replacements queue and figured the Red Army stood down as Gorbachev tore down the Union.In post 339, Jingle wrote:LolWagons replaces Soviet Crocolisk.
Fixing VC momentarily.VC was accurate, I just didn't read context.Actually, there was a minor formatting error where the wagons were listed in the wrong order. But if anyone wants to complain about that I'll fite you.
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Recent game with her.In post 368, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 why do you find Lady A towny?
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Is that how you view my scum game, ducky? Interesting!In post 359, DuckDuckJab wrote:talking to BuJ about A50 atm but the levels of WTF he's exhibited this game is probably net wolf indicative
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HereIn post 368, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 why do you find Lady A towny?
P.S. Please don't let anyone else see it. I played a dreadful game and I got lynched on D2. We lost
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Wrong quote, but whatever
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Guys, you all suck! The new and the ones I know.
I'm a bloody COMMUTER. Com'on, get a hint.
That DarkLight vote sucks rocks. Gamma missing the point and pushing this is a scum tell (and by your own admission, mate). I'm still sus of Thor but I don't think all 3 scums are on my wagon.
The game is run in Coney Island though not in New York, so might not be a Normal, and thus could be multi-ball. If that's the case then it could be they are both scum of different factions.
skitter is always this stupid regarding me. EVERYTIME you don't understand, and EVERYTIME you understand after the fact, yet YOU NEVER LEARN. STOP FUCKING MESSING WITH MY D1 PLANS. Leave me alone in D1 and give me all you got starting D2. GDI.
@Roberts: Why are you voting me? Yeah, mate. Give me a straight answer. Cuz now I am not even sure if this game has a Town majority start. You all look like scum (well, the majority do). WHAT BLOODY JESTER??
Deleted broken tag because I wasn’t sure where it was supposed to end. ~JingleLast edited by Jingle on Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
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@Mod: Please remove that size=125 thing. Thank you.Last edited by Jingle on Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
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@Mod: Is it alright if I go on a RC-esque rampage???
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Yeah. I'm an ascetic commuter. No, wait. I'm a BP commuter.In post 426, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 do you have any modifiers? Any setup spec ideas based on your role?
COMMUTER: Cannot be targeted at night. Now any additional info is anti-Town to give, and I'm wondering why you ask. I take it you're asking if it's compulsive or activated? And if activated then how many shots?? If so, my answer is: WHAT DO YOU CARE? All I wanted was to get Scum so confused they'd shoot me tonight. Now that's never going to happen.
@BuJ: That's why I said it hurts us to stop now. I am NOT getting shot, and still I will be suspected all the way to China even if an investigative targets me. I mean, I have two options now: Commute = waste a shot on a night we know Scum aren't targeting me on + prevent any PRs from verifying me. OR NOT COMMUTE, which will FORCE A PR TO CLAIM to confirm me.
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Letting things go would have been MUCH easier. "No Night Kill". Scum would have been confused as hell, and while Town would have still been suspicious; ince I claimed it would have made sense to them, and probably outed a couple of Scums who would have been running around in circles chasing their own tails.
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I didn't forget anything. EVERYONE who plays me regularly knows I'm a compulsive liar as TOWN. Even the MOD knows that.
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Thor came at me out of nowhere and I had to improvise on the spot. That wasn't a planned move, but I couldn't explain it otherwise without outing already.
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NO NIGHT KILLS!!!! That is a soft IN ITSELF! Then I was talking to BuJ and I said "Com'on.. get a hint" and he knows I do not use that spelling for "come on"In post 434, DarkLightA wrote:Where is your soft claim?
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You weren't in the game. Had I known you would replace in I would have taken measure to ensure even someone with 30 IQ would understand and I would probably have planned it a different way. Sorry for not foreseeing YOU would join the game.In post 439, LolWagons wrote:LOL
Okay. So you have this role and this huge plan and you didn’t think to crumb beforehand?
No.
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OK, My bad. I promise you next time I play in a game with you I'll outright claim in my first post. You have been forewarned. No ifs or butts (misspelling totally unintended. I'm not outright calling anyone a BUTT. That would be bad manners and I'm a )In post 446, DarkLightA wrote:Why not just claim if you want everyone to understand?
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True. You're 100% currect, Scum always do that like 100% of the time though. Sorry I said you have a 30 IQ score. I might have exaggerated. It's probably no more than 10.In post 447, LolWagons wrote:They don’t constantly, blatantly softclaim a role to intimidate people out of voting then.
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I also am LOVING how everybody's suddenly a Mafia expert and I'm the only rookie in the game.Last edited by Jingle on Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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I am overloaded, but that has nothing to do with the intentional crumb. Two separate facts: I crumbed my role in a way that should have confused the players that are more familiar with me, but TOWN them would have been puzzled and would wait for it to unfold (BuJaber did just that). SCUM them would be overly anxious as to what I'm crumbing though, and would be inclined to vote me and/or shoot me at night.
Let me link you a recent game with Gamma: here. ISO me. I crumbed my role in my first post. SCUM!GAMMA picked up on it and he TR'd me for it. He then tried to shoot me on N1.
Here, he did NOT understand, so he pushed me for it.
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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"If he's Town Mafia can't kill him, so we need to do the job for them." How "sportsmanshippy".In post 466, LolWagons wrote:Maybe an investigative role. Maybe. He’s probably an ascetic mafia something.
I don’t see how commuter benefits town besides drawing the night kill which won’t happen now if he’s town anyway.
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