From a mod with a cock addiction
She made it suck
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A scumlist of all the people voting youIn post 87, Pine wrote:Alisae
skygazer
GreyICE
Katsuki
Plum
No clue so far, it's too early to have a real readslist. But now that you self-consciously mention it, your vote IS hella scummy, and saying "no points" doesn't make it not opportunistic AF.
Speaking of things that annoyIn post 26, Alisae wrote:my first pick was third party btw
It's CYS, you couldn't have missedIn post 222, Pine wrote: I’m being accused of doing no scumhunting, despite the fact that it’s practically impossible to do when two-thirds of the playerlist hasn’t done anything except say how omg scummy Pine is.
I’m going to be honest, I’m a little upset with this game.
Are you two scumfucks insaneIn post 236, Gamma Emerald wrote:I agree with this sentiment, this is the template for most gamesIn post 233, kuribo wrote:The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.
I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.
Do you think a player in CYSIn post 244, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like how is your reaction to me and kuribo discussing scum posting frequencies "OMG DONT PICK SCUM ITS SIMPLE!!!111"
Play resistance to know this pitIn post 281, TemporalLich wrote:The last thing I want to do in this setup is give out townreads like they're candy.
If I end up TRing scum, it could be disastrous.
In post 483, TemporalLich wrote:katsuki really makes me paranoid...
everything can't be decided by powerlynching, that's not how town works
In post 203, Alisae wrote:
You have my attention. Why do you think Katsuki is an outed lyncher? You had literally zero interaction with Pine, and Pine was the one pushing this theory. Talk to me. Nowish.In post 375, Skygazer wrote: I'd probably hard pass on katsuki (outted lyncher?) and alisae (probs scum/third party??)
I CAN POST SOME CALLBACKS DAMN IT
I just can't reconcile this with the idea that Pine was basically confirmed scum to you;In post 550, Skygazer wrote: I thought Katsuki literally claimed lyncher? lemme dig it up
you vote parked on him all of yesterday, but you thought Katsuki was seriously a lyncher on the guy you were voting? Did that give you pause?In post 21, Skygazer wrote:i mean pine is pretty obvscum at this point
Yes, but it doesn't really matter. You just look at it and you're okay with it? I dunno. It betrays a level of "not thinking" that I'm not comfortable assigning to you.In post 561, Skygazer wrote: the sarcastic lyncher claim was after the Pine lynch went through??
Yeah, um. I'll 50% agree with you.In post 692, implosion wrote:still think nk and tl are both town over here what up
You know, I was going to do a point by point on why this is bad, but that's not the point at all. My thoughts here is that this post is backfill reasoning. It's what you would get if you started with the premise "TL feels town" and then went through his ISO to justify that premise. I'm going to point out a few logical flaws here.In post 707, implosion wrote:I guess I see the point that TL hasn't taken risky stances much but I think that's not surprising from town in this game. It took me a while to form like any material opinions in this game. I like 150, particularly calling one of Pine's posts a possible townslip; not a likely scum->scum interaction, and not something that i think scum points out if they see town do it (even if the townslip itself is bunk). 235 isn't a bad post either imo. 281 feels like a genuine thought that scum wouldn't think as much about, and I don't really buy that he's scum avoiding giving reads since he has now given a full reads list, justified them, and given decent answers to questions about why he has those reads. I think the way he's been scumreading katsuki is reasonable, and that katsuki is a really easy person to scumread in general if you aren't familiar with him.
Again, it's not a strong read. There are things that give me pause. 281 could potentially be scum who are more aware of the fact that scum only need one key to win because they're thinking about their own win condition, and his tone feels kinda bad in a lot of places. It's not a read I'm wed to.
*blink*In post 735, Not Known 15 wrote: Every time we lynch someone and banish them, scum can banish a person they choose. Which is a good reason to get the keys as fast as possible and then to open the Well of Fears; unless, of course, the keyholders are untrustworthy.
I'd prefer you to take a closer look and give a more nuanced answer. While it may or may not affect my read on TL, depending on the content, saying "it's my gut, and I don't really care if you wagon a town read for one of our five lynches" does effect my read on you. Which is a thread I'll probably follow up on when we're getting closer to having another lynch and this isn't all just circle jerking.In post 742, implosion wrote:I mean... this isn't wrong? It *is* me back-justifying a gut townread on the slot. And I wasn't really trying to hide that?GI wrote:You know, I was going to do a point by point on why this is bad, but that's not the point at all. My thoughts here is that this post is backfill reasoning. It's what you would get if you started with the premise "TL feels town" and then went through his ISO to justify that premise. I'm going to point out a few logical flaws here.
Like I said, it's not a strong read. It's not one I'm going to actively proselytize for, but his play doesn't strike me as particularly scummy and i think there are reasons to townread him that do have some material weight.
Call it more pushing you for the sake of determining your alignment. I have not been overwhelmed by your contribution to this game.In post 795, implosion wrote:
My answer doesn't lack nuance.
It just isn't the answer you seem to want to hear.
If there's a banish wagon on him then I'll look at him more closely but even then I don't think he's likely to ever wind up in an attempted coalition... so I don't see why you want me to put so much effort into sorting him in particular. Kinda feels like you're trying to shade me for the sake of shading me?
So this is an explicit third party claim?In post 933, kuribo wrote:In post 929, Not Known 15 wrote:... and based on that GreyICE is more likely to be not town, too.
I don't know or care what GI is
But you are as usually completely in the dark here: My role had me choose my Four Horsemen myself in the pre-game. My win condition was not balanced against any of them being any alignment, nor could it be: the mid didnt select them. I did.
You're going to get lynched due to not giving a shit, and when you ask me post game if I give a shit, I really, really won't.In post 1057, MariaR wrote:Finally I can start caring now that we're done with that
Okay, here's the thing. This is going to sound bad, so I'll just say it once. IDC. What you're describing is a game of hot potato. This is a game of mafia. Mafia is a more interesting game than hot potato. If the endgame becomes hot potato... oh well. Fuck it. I'll play hot potato. But for now I'll play mafia. I won't volunteer to take it, because that's literally playing against my win condition, which can get you site banned (not that it would unless zoraster is an even bigger weenie than I know he is, but w/e). Am I going to discuss a game of hot potato? No. Is anyone else? No. We're happy that way.In post 1131, kuribo wrote:What will really bake y'alls noodles is this: The Black Key causes it's holder to lose regardless of their faction's victory status
Someone at the circle of trust WILL be holding it when the game ends, since you cannot destroy keys and must will them on death and the sacrifice will be made
My black key is poison to all, and I'd suggest people start considering it more seriously
Huh, fuck he might have been shot by scum.In post 472, Gamma Emerald wrote:Honestly I'm interested in this myselfIn post 454, hebichan wrote:Even that is a bit fishy given literally no one has shaded GE all game.
In post 735, Not Known 15 wrote:Every time we lynch someone and banish them, scum can banish a person they choose. Which is a good reason to get the keys as fast as possible and then to open the Well of Fears; unless, of course, the keyholders are untrustworthy.In post 729, kuribo wrote:because I've spent twelve years tearing bad scum like yourself to piecesIn post 727, Not Known 15 wrote:Why would I, if I were scum, have to lynch you?
oh boy. oh boy I might have been extremely wrong
Yeah, I apologize. I told Lexi I hate no-flip games, and well, here we are.In post 1142, Katsuki wrote:No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.In post 1077, Plum wrote: Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.
Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?In post 51, implosion wrote:imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.
For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.
Well you said you don't think lynching is that important, and you said you don't think voting is that important, and you said the most important thing is figuring out everyone's preference list, but you don't seem to have any thoughts on that. And you have a few thoughts, but they seem to be gut/irrelevant. And you're going VLA for a week.In post 1164, implosion wrote:Idk strongly. There isn't actually anyone in this player list that I know the preferences of well. There are some people that I decently think put town over scum but that's because I think that they're town and if someone put scum over town and was forced into town they'd probably have claimed it because of the implications.In post 1162, GreyICE wrote:Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?In post 51, implosion wrote:imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.
For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.
Why?
Do you think implosion is planning to submit a kill on himselfIn post 1254, kuribo wrote:Then your activity superstars like Not Known and Maria can go to endgame while scum picks off GreyICE and implosion and anyone else who's bothering to post