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There's still a good few people who've been active who aren't on that list, as well as some people who haven't been active. Do you expect me to have reads on inactive players, or are you just throwing doubt on my process?In post 311, tris wrote:
why does this town list give you confidence in jjh? it looks mostly like a list people who have been actively around aside from those who are shitposting and FL?In post 294, Kaname Date wrote:
well, jjh has my vote.In post 269, jjh927 wrote:I'll take tris, Kaname Date, Gamma Emerald, Hayasaka, and Ampharos for town right now
of confidence."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Nope
Actually very pleased with my role PM"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Yeah but I'd like some specificityIn post 569, Kaname Date wrote:
i'm interested in anything you have to say!In post 565, jjh927 wrote:I should probably articulate the reasoning behind some reads later
Rn they're just all in my head
Anyone particularly interested in my reads on anyone else?
Since that last list of people who I said were town, I also think VMP and Fish are town"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Also sense check says what I allowed myself to think was strategy day 1 is actually kinda useless due to the lack of people who would NK me N1 in this game, unlike the previous game I was in where it was actually really neat info for solving that I remained alive"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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FLIn post 989, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
Who is currently in your PoE other than NM obviously?In post 983, jjh927 wrote:Still think Amy is town btw
~M
I acknowledge it's probably time to revisit a few of my day 1 townreads but a scumflip doesn't really push me to do that."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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It's an easy counterargumentIn post 1064, Hayasaka wrote:Why do people always get so suprised when I state strong read on slots that are lurking like NM.
Not like NM lurking makes him more or less readable.
Some players get harder to read if they get super into a game because of how good their scum game is.
That aside, it has actually use as a point to be made in terms of generating reads based on familiarity, prevalence, and all that. Availability bias and all that. Good to be aware of it, but when you're aware of it it's just a weak counter.
I'd ask you if you have reasons you can articulate about why NM is scum, but I also think NM is scum and I think my new playstyle since I got a job involves low effort high efficiency high accuracy plays like voting scum and nothing more"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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If we're considering an "info" flip to be a town flip that comes with useful info, the only possible ones from my POV are the people I do not townread; ie NM and FL, as anyone else could flip town and it would have no effect on my reads.
If you want to do things I don't want to do, at least do it because you think someone is more likely to be scum
As an aside, FL's fairly weak but noticeable resistance to wagoning NM only encourages me"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Hmm, I'll concede the first. I've pretty much been ignoring all the "FL would bus in this situation" stuff because you're purposefully erratic in whether or not you bus, but that's more of a developed argument,In post 1187, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that I have a fairly weak resistance appearing should be enough to see that NM and I aren’t scum together. There’s a very real possibility that NM gets vengekilled, and if that happens and he did flip scum, scum me would be screwed. I would arguably say a scumNM flip screws me, which kinda sucks, but at the end of the day, if he’s scum, that’s 2 scum dead, I have faith town could find the last one even if I’m misfaded.
Essentially, as scum with NM, I’d have to hard defend him here.
I also am a confirmed double voter, DND wagon doesn’t go through if I were scum this game. It just doesn’t.
Second point isn't really worth anything though"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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If I call you town here, I know I'm wrong on at least 1 townread. NM being town would be an additional two things wrong, because one of my TRs would be wrong as well as that I actually think NM is scum here
I don't think I'm wrong on 3 things here"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Nah, if I'm wrong it's because I haven't been engaged enough with the gameIn post 1198, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Well, think about it. If you’re wrong on 3 things here, that’s definitely because scum would have a focus on you to mess around so you don’t catch them. If I were scum here, I’d have been playing in a way to specifically watch out for you. Do you disagree with this? And do you think I have done that?In post 1195, jjh927 wrote:If I call you town here, I know I'm wrong on at least 1 townread. NM being town would be an additional two things wrong, because one of my TRs would be wrong as well as that I actually think NM is scum here
I don't think I'm wrong on 3 things here
Who do you know best in this game?
I think my half assed attitude from the last game I played carried over somewhat, and DnD flipping scum didn't exactly make me think this wasn't working
In this game, I think you're probably the person I've played with most, excluding Gamma who I've never interacted with all that much despite being in a fair few games. Let's also steer clear of unmasking Kaname Date.
Scum is unlikely to be catering anything particularly to me, especially considering recent changes in my playstyle and the number of players unfamiliar with me. Also of note is that I didn't get NKed. I think following this conversation you'll have a place in my townreads, but that means I need to revisit some of the other ones."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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And also, since it's a role with a lot of ways to confirm it, that just makes it more likely to be the truth. For example, I am confident if I were to be locked away in said hood, I would be able to offer something which 100% proved I was there. Like, totally beyond reasonable doubt level. Other people could probably do similar, especially those who are in hoods."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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When did Gamma claim the devil? I must have missed thisIn post 1814, Ampharos wrote:that actually makes it extremely interesting that gamma claimed to also be the devil
in tarot, the arcana have both a positive and a negative meaning depending on which way they're flipped (tarot readings are weirdly complicated but whatever)
based on that it's entirely possible for gamma's claim to be true... but then, is d&d's role based on the negative interpretation and gamma's on the positive? or vice versa? are all the scum roles this way, or is it just a one off, or is gamma full of shit and this entire line of questioning is moot
i guess i know what wikipedia rabbit hole i'm going down tonight"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Holy fuck how did I miss thisIn post 1004, Gamma Emerald wrote:
YeahIn post 927, tris wrote:
in what way? are you saying you're the devil also?In post 852, Gamma Emerald wrote:I honestly would have townread them just because of play differences to another game
Also, just gonna put this out there that I have the same flavor as D&D, so flavor has no meaning.
There’s a reason I posted what I did in my first post of the game. There’s more to it than “scummish flavor that turned out to be shared with an actual scum” but until I think it’s wise to reveal everything I won’t."As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Mechanics of my role are such that no two people can have the same arcana
For my role I have to target an arcana and my role targets the corresponding player
The phrase corresponding player is used
The role is one that could not feasibly target two players simultaneously"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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