Captain ivan vorpatril, obviously
Also hi everyone!
Also VOTE: rogue hi:)
Captain ivan vorpatril, obviously
ok, whyIn post 17, mastina wrote:Peace offering: I promise never to vote LLD prior to D3-at-earliest (barring guilties on her). I reserve right to state suspicion, but promise not to act on it, and the proxy vote is proof of commitment to this promise.
Eh we can call it a townread nowIn post 57, skitter30 wrote:townread is probably a little strong, more like it's p3 and i have Good Vibes Thus Far
same with that idiot ivan, i forgot to say
Hmmm, why?In post 90, That Idiot Ivan wrote:SirCakez is concerning.
Eh at this stage not sure that's ai for himIn post 96, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Short answer is none of his posts read to me as coming from an 'I received a town role PM' mindset. But early days.In post 93, skitter30 wrote:Hmmm, why?In post 90, That Idiot Ivan wrote:SirCakez is concerning.
Also curious abt the chess game
Meh not sure i like this suggestion eitherIn post 127, Dwlee99 wrote:Maybe a flavor claim would be in order
Ok, sureIn post 126, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm going to say that I'm very interested in pursuing this if only because before it could even get to their response on the topic, 2 people jumped in the way of the speeding train for this one.In post 122, skitter30 wrote:I mean ... maybe? Not sure i see it, and not sure luke would do that to her
Not that I'm sure what kind of alignment that provides you, but it is extremely strange for me.
Also, followup, do you think *scum-me* chooses to step in front of this speeding train?In post 142, skitter30 wrote:Also why would scum want to step in front of the speeding train, especially in the town-bombay universe
Why do u scumread them?In post 171, mastina wrote:VOTE: The Bombay
(proxy-LLD, but also, scumread anyway, readslist next post)
Should have continued reading >.>In post 177, mastina wrote:I don't think their reads are genuine. Their reads all look faked, surface-level, and forced. It looks more like trying to appear as scumhunting, rather than being genuine scumhunting.
In post 142, skitter30 wrote:Ok ... so shade? The implication of that post is that you think its somewhat scum-indicicative that me and jjh piped in (possibly with bombay)
Also why would scum want to step in front of the speeding train, especially in the town-bombay universe
Also i kinda hate 134
Also bombay/lld are not scum together
@lld when you have a chance can i get a response to these posts plz?In post 148, skitter30 wrote:Also, followup, do you think *scum-me* chooses to step in front of this speeding train?In post 142, skitter30 wrote:Also why would scum want to step in front of the speeding train, especially in the town-bombay universe
Ok so i just want to discuss why i hate this post:In post 134, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Not really shade, more a general observation that you and JJH both stepped into a line of questioning, resulting in a lessening of pressure.In post 130, skitter30 wrote:I mean you said something interesting (that i also think is kinda silly), so i responded, yes
Not sure what's strange abt that, but noting the vague shade
I've made the same observation every time this has happened before, I think you may have even seen me make this observation before.
i don't really like lld's dwlee push and feel like a lot of these criticisms are overblown given the stage of hte game. in particular i don't find the 'faffing about' to be ai, and the issue with the poe readslist / not solving seems premature given that we're on p10In post 208, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:For those reading along, Dwlee instavotes me after I vote them and then offers this rebuttal to my reads.In post 203, Dwlee99 wrote:I asked for flavor claim because there were people clamoring that the post restriction made no sense. It also doesn't contain any role info so not sure why you'd suspect I want that as scum.
My reads list isn't a reads list, it's a PoE but okay
And yea I started the game memeing a bit because I had just woke up from an hour and a half long nap
They say that there is no value to be obtained in asking for a flavour claim, but that isn't true. This is a UPick gane, roles will match flavour in some manner and even if you think that is speculation, Bombay confirmed as much that it did before the claim. So it isnt speculation.
Claiming a PoE list isn't a reads list is a straight up deflection. It literally is a reads list. I can confidently say that if we killed those 6 people, I don't feel confident we win the game. That is a problem for your alignment. Saying it isn't a reads list is just disingenuous.
Giving a weak reason for why you are faffing about is ridiculous. Not only is your RL not confirmable it is also irrelevant. You are choosing to make posts that contain little more purpose than to connection build over posts that solve the game.
And it is the fact that you are essentially not solving and then generated a name of 6 people that is the problem. The act itself wouldn't be bad if the reads were good but they aren't. And without a cognitive consistency to follow to how you got to those reads, my read on you is that you threw that list of names together prepared to generate post facto reasoning for any of them upon request.
Between the OMGUS vote and the wholistic approach you are taking to the game, you read heavily like scum.
In post 235, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Not conciliatory, evidence. The purpose of the line was to force you to accept that this has been my position on this topic regardless of my alignment for years to remove that aspect from the conversation.
I don't quite understand what you are trying to say here Tbh. It isn't shade because it is me trying to read you directly. I am applying pressure directly and then reading from that. The goal of the exercise was to get a read on you and I did.
I'm not really sure what is shady about that. There is nothing underhanded about it at all?
- wrt conciliatory: fair enough, i think i read it in a different manner than you intendedIn post 237, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like can you define shade for me in this context actually?
Or if you prefer I can define how I interpreted it first for you. Because this didn't feel like a case of interpretation and more a case of... Well being frank it just felt obviously not shady?
Like I really don't get it
ok, fair enough, and i appreciate you takign the time to explainIn post 281, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It was that Bombay had not even commented yet themselves before you stepped in, if that wasn't clear I apologize.
It's not "never comment on this" it's "why are you commenting on this before I even see how Bombay reacts to the pressure?" which is why I indicated it was scum indicative (it has often been) to have that happen. The point of the message was to say I have my eyes on you for doing that specific thing, and see how you (and JJH) responded to it. It's less like... "you're not allowed to comment, so be quiet!" and more "okay, so you chose to comment before Bombay, giving them an easy out to lean on you (and JJH) making the pressure on that slot useless. Let's use the momentum and redirect to still try and learn something.
cuz i know that town-you can get pushed easily so don't want you to get pushed for stuff that looks bad but isn't necessarily scummy for uIn post 298, SirCakez wrote:why do you always go to bat for me?In post 93, skitter30 wrote:Hmmm, why?In post 90, That Idiot Ivan wrote:SirCakez is concerning.
Also curious abt the chess game
i've skimmed both my iso and your iso and i have no idea what that game has to do with this one, so can you elaborate a bit more?In post 320, Dwlee99 wrote:Iirc you pushed me and I had a tilt defense there which is what I was getting at
he called this post the 'full tilt defense', which i took to be a description of how you're objecting to lld saying you're 'faffing' for the beginning of your iso, and thought it had nothing to do with the omgusIn post 204, Dwlee99 wrote:Also can I point out how completely bullshit this isIn post 202, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:contains multiple red flags wrt their alignment.
My first like... Ten posts. NAI. I played chess with RVS'd, played chess with t3, and then talked about the bread I was eating at 3am. I don't believe you believe this at all
fair enuf, i think the same thing >.>In post 333, Dwlee99 wrote:I think my brain isn't lining up with your brain right now it's okay
I'm gonna be honest when i originally saw this i thought it was so ???? as to be an rvs-stage meme / had that level of seriousnessIn post 198, Dwlee99 wrote:Rogue
T3
Lady Lambdadelta
That Idiot Ivan
skitter30
Shiro
I may have solved the game as well
Ok i guess a few thoughts on this:In post 431, Dwlee99 wrote:It's super early but some good guesses I think. I went through why I excluded each person I did in 399 if you want to respond to that. I will also point out that half that list has to be town, so if you think half is town I could still be dead on accurate (which is unlikely, but still)In post 429, skitter30 wrote:I'm gonna be honest when i originally saw this i thought it was so ???? as to be an rvs-stage meme / had that level of seriousnessIn post 198, Dwlee99 wrote:Rogue
T3
Lady Lambdadelta
That Idiot Ivan
skitter30
Shiro
I may have solved the game as well
The fact that you're sticking by it tho is kinda ??? for me because like half of thise names i had townpings on at that point, and i'm not really sure what you're seeing to exclude the rest
- i was saying that i was townreading half of your poe to indicate that i thought it was a random hodgepodge of names (and thus not a 'real' poe / not a serious poe), not really to comment on the rightness or wrongness of it or your accuracyIn post 443, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm saying you townreading half my poe doesn't actually mean it's wrong. Cause the other half can still be scum and I didn't wrongly clear anyone. I think right now I'd consider adding you to my list of exclusions but I'm not actually all the way there yet. Pooky hydra is hard to read if he won't actually post but I still actually feel slightly better there than with you.In post 438, skitter30 wrote:Ok i guess a few thoughts on this:
- you're acting like you presently think you're wrong on me (i.e. you're acting like you're townreading me now)
- the second sentence is silly, of course at least half of any 6 names is gonna be town (assiming 3 scum etc), so of course you can still be right technically but that isnt like a massive accomplishment or anything ...
- is this still your poe presently? I saw u would take me out and add poodydra but anything else?
I did, and think your reasons are p flat and uninspiring, and dont really have anything to say on any of them. The only ones i kinda agreed with were bombay and jjh, the rest were p emptyIn post 468, Dwlee99 wrote:Your first bulletpoint makes me think you didn't think about why I'm townreading those slots yet. I've gone over each, but you didn't talk about those reasons or interact with those. Your second bulletpoint also makes me think this
I agree with strange, i dont really have an opinion on cakez, and am not sure i saw him town telling, can u pull a few posts where you think he did?In post 479, Dwlee99 wrote:Strange and cake have towntold further after I posted my initial townreads of them. Do you not agree with that?
I don't think I've seen scum get post restrictions ever? It seems like just giving scum a reason to post worse which ruins day play.But I also don't think scum!pooky wants to give up agency to post in hardly decipherable images
For the first question: idk her personally well enuf to say, but why not?In post 480, That Idiot Ivan wrote:Do you think mastina veers so far from 'popular' opinion? As I said, I'm having trouble separating my dislike of some NAI stuff from her versus her gameplay, but the actual relevant content doesn't look agenda-driven. What are you seeing, if you're up for discussing more about it?