Mini 1413 - The Mind Reader Mafia - Game Over

UberNinja · Post Post #1196 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:27 am

Hi. I'm replacing GreyICE. I will read the thread as I get time. I meant to do it over the weekend but stuff got busy IRL and other games took priority when I did have the time to get on. I'm in too many games already and only took this one as a favor.

This player list looks spectacular though, so that's a plus.

In post 1195, Loranthaceae wrote:UberNinja is scum because he reads scum-Jal easily and he didn't want to put up with calling her town for the rest of the game, or out himself as scum to her by calling her scum.. so he killed her.

VOTE: UberNinja

LOL

UberNinja · Post Post #1197 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:42 am

So get me up to speed guys. What's happened so far, in the way of role/result claims, etc.?

All I know going into my re-read are the flips, and I prefer to have as complete a picture as I can

UberNinja · Post Post #1198 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:42 am

Also, this game is far too slow, and you guys need to post more. I didn't have it bookmarked until just now but now there are no excuses.

UBER IS HERE BITCHES

UberNinja · Post Post #1204 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:00 pm

In post 1202, qwints wrote:Talc

In post 1203, penguin_alien wrote:...gypsum, calcite, flourite, apatite, feldspar, quartz, topaz, corundum, diamond...

/geekiness

Ssriously, Malakittens and Lastsurvivor, any reaction to yesterday's wagons?

wait what

i'm so lost

UberNinja · Post Post #1207 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:31 pm

fucking nerds

UberNinja · Post Post #1217 (isolation #5) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:20 am

I take it this means you're back on the AMURIKA MAFIA moderation? Great.

Yeah, qwints looks pretty anti town, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's scum. And in any case I'd prefer not to have another night phase at least until I can get a SKIM in, let alone a re-read. Unfortunately, this game is third on my priorities list after the one I'm currently modding, and another one whose deadline is much closer (and there is a lot less to re-read in it, so)...

But, for posterity, I'll say that I read the first page of the game, and penguin_alien was who stuck out to me.

UberNinja · Post Post #1219 (isolation #6) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:27 am

In post 1412, Nachomamma8 wrote:Don't read.

Just be ignorant and vote random people.

LOL

this seems to be a recurring thing with you,

son

father

UberNinja · Post Post #1221 (isolation #7) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:28 am

tell me nacho, besides qwints, who do you suspect most?
looking through your ISO briefly shows me you had him and AP as scumbros

>> le AP flips town

...and you're still on a rampage against qwints?

what's the 2+2 here

UberNinja · Post Post #1231 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:03 pm

In post 1226, Nachomamma8 wrote:the false dilemma was too good to stop lynching you now
we can't let scum's efforts go to waste

okay nacho is town -- no way scum says this

anything else i need to know for my re-read?

UberNinja · Post Post #1233 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:08 pm

it's fucking 50 pages

i will probably just re-read as necessary instead of doing one huge long one that shits up the thread

UberNinja · Post Post #1240 (isolation #10) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:30 am

I have no more energy for epic full-thread readthroughs at this point so I'm just gonna vote who I suspect most:

Vote: Penguin_alien

Lorax seems a little like the "obvious easy mislynch" category.

Qwints, I really don't have much of an opinion on at this point. His stuff "SEEMS" scummy but is there actually a scum thought process behind it?

UberNinja · Post Post #1241 (isolation #11) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:31 am

Look at that proper capitalization and punctuation. Look at that shit.

If I post without, somebody please slap me on the wrist.

UberNinja · Post Post #1247 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:23 am

Not much of an opinion on Mala yet.

This is interesting though, I was looking through Jal's votes, as she was the NK.

In post 1170, Jal wrote:VOTE: AP

Qwints is next if AP is town.

Now, is the Jal kill a frame?
Or did Qwints just want to get rid of her, knowing AP would flip town?

Jal was probably a good kill either way for scum, amirite?

UberNinja · Post Post #1249 (isolation #13) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:25 am

Because we're not all as crazy for blood (yet?) as you are? lol

UberNinja · Post Post #1263 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:32 pm

@mod: I'll be V/LA until Monday

UberNinja · Post Post #1268 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:53 pm

I may actually finally read this game on monday when I get back

UberNinja · Post Post #1270 (isolation #16) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:58 am

I'm back and this game is on my radar finally

UberNinja · Post Post #1271 (isolation #17) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:59 am

mastin I've already said I'm not really gonna "catch up" in the traditional way. when I do that it just pisses people off

UberNinja · Post Post #1272 (isolation #18) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:59 am

I will have a look at qwints though...

UberNinja · Post Post #1273 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:00 am

Oh. qwints/Mehdi, that is.

UberNinja · Post Post #1274 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:18 am

okay after reading qwints' ISO and reading (COUGHskimmingCOUGH) Medhi's as well, i'm not ready to lynch that slot
mehdi in particular looked pretty pro town, and qwints vote count analyses don't sound like they're coming from scum

nacho why do you want to lynch it so bad? i'm not seeing a bunch of reasoning other than "blah blah lynch it omggg"

looking at penguin_alien next

UberNinja · Post Post #1275 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:20 am

In post 8, Malakittens wrote:Ugh RVS sucks. I'm not doing that shit.

PA, why did it take you so long to confirm? <.<

In post 12, penguin_alien wrote:Malakittens, I confirmed about two hours (two hours, eighteen minutes) after my role PM arrived in my inbox. At which point I checked out the thread and saw that everyone else had confirmed. So I think it's more a matter of everyone being really quick to confirm.

what the fuck is this

vote: penguin_alien

and that's just like, the first page, lol

UberNinja · Post Post #1277 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:36 am

because i'm not really paying attention to the game

apparently

UberNinja · Post Post #1278 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:36 am

my vote stays until you provide a reasonable excuse for being either a penguin or an alien

(i.e. until i have time to read more. mehdi's iso was a bitch)

UberNinja · Post Post #1282 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:20 pm

Bleh

I don't think qwints will flip scum

Look at Mehdi's posts

qwints may be scummy but Mehdi certainly wasn't

and these posts feel town anyway:

Spoiler:

we should wait

i have seen too many mislynches recently in my games i'm in, and i'm too paranoid this is another

i have been wrong about a good many reads lately too though.

i would prefer we left qwints alive a while

UberNinja · Post Post #1283 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:20 pm

i.e. LS pls unvote if you're town

UberNinja · Post Post #1286 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:34 pm

In post 1284, Lastsurvivor wrote:Mehdi was far from town.

#882 is a scummy post, if anything. Qwints was on the guille wagon. Qwints says that scum is off the guille wagon. How convenient.

What are we waiting for? What is waiting to lynch qwints tomorrow going to do? Worse of all, you say we shouldn't lynch qwints, but you don't offer an alternative.

honestly i am just really not in a state where i recognize the state of the game

because nacho came in and started hard pushing qwints, and hasn't really done much since, and i feel uneasy about that
and everyone seems so willing to lynch him so very easily, and it seems like a "too easy" kind of thing

you know exactly what i've talking about, you've seen me stall lynches this way before

listen to me now, and unvote. please

UberNinja · Post Post #1292 (isolation #27) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:38 am

yeah i haven't even looked at my QT for days. i was like "oh hey, this is a novel idea" but then i pretty much forgot about it

UberNinja · Post Post #1293 (isolation #28) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:38 am

and thank you for reminding me that i was working on a post in another tab

UberNinja · Post Post #1296 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:11 am

In post 85, guille2015 wrote:I agree with Last survivor in post #53

LS is somewhat less likely to be scum

rarely do scum blatantly agree with/support each other's posts like this
it's not as definitive as i'd like but its a start at the process of PoE

In post 86, guille2015 wrote:I forgot the vote in my previous post.

Vote Loran

Considering post 83, makes me feel more comfortable with this vote.

Loran is much less likely to be scum

especially because guille looked for justification to make this vote, whereas if it was a scumbuddy he wouldn't subconsciously need a justification, etc

In post 241, guille2015 wrote:Loran's defenition of Lurking is disturbing.

"disturbing" is a word i see scum use about town a lot

also "worrying", "concerning", etc

Loran goes into the town books

also,

In post 241, guille2015 wrote:@Loran: What are your current reads?

@GreyIce: What's your opinion on Loran?

this makes me even more sure.

UberNinja · Post Post #1297 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:12 am

In post 1285, Malakittens wrote:Mehdi felt town to me. Like really town. Qwints feels town a bit.

Honestly I'm lost and I feel useless in this game. Normally I have a better handle on who the possible scum are, but I just don't.

In post 1295, mastin2 wrote:
In post 1288, Loranthaceae wrote:@Mastin we got loads of info you could dive into .. but you don't. Why?
Combination of apathy and laziness.

I promised to do some VCA, but I haven't even begun it. As I said, apathy. I've got no passion atm for this game. I honestly, legitimately, feel as if we've stalled. I've tried thinking of ways to spark up useful activity, but...I got nuthin'. I can't think of any questions to ask players, I can't think of any place in the game to focus my attention, I can't think of any VCs to focus on because quite frankly the mod gives them far too sporadically to be of use. (Hence why I want to do manual VCs to A.) Basically...I'm stuck. :/

UberNinja · Post Post #1298 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:19 am

After ISOing T-Bone I'm really confused as to the night kill

He wasn't really pushing on anyone in particular and wasn't really doing "well" either.
His vote on guille was a pressure vote, and he didn't really follow up on it either.

Makes no sense to me. But Loran and LS are probtown thus far.

Mala feels weird, maybe I'll read her next

UberNinja · Post Post #1299 (isolation #32) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:20 am

ugh, that's a huge iso. not right now, that's for damn sure

UberNinja · Post Post #1305 (isolation #33) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:29 am

In post 1300, Nachomamma8 wrote:scum killed t-bone because scumteam was penguin, medhi, guile

yeah except t-bone said penguin was super town

and i am here to say that mehdi was pretty town too

UberNinja · Post Post #1306 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:29 am

In post 470, T-Bone wrote:Penguin is so town it hurts. Next.

UberNinja · Post Post #1307 (isolation #35) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:30 am

In post 1304, Nachomamma8 wrote:also mastin how are you still taking so long?
this isn't anything like your mirror mafia aspirations yet you're procrastinating like it is

he always talks about procrastinating more than he actually does it

but when the chips are down

expect the walls

EXPECT THEM

UberNinja · Post Post #1312 (isolation #36) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:47 am

why was medhi scum as fuck

UberNinja · Post Post #1316 (isolation #37) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:09 am

UberNinja · Post Post #1320 (isolation #38) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:45 am

Vote: Nacho

UberNinja · Post Post #1323 (isolation #39) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:54 am

Not trolling.

UberNinja · Post Post #1328 (isolation #40) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:02 am

In post 1298, UberNinja wrote:Mala feels weird, maybe I'll read her next

In post 1299, UberNinja wrote:ugh, that's a huge iso. not right now, that's for damn sure

UberNinja · Post Post #1330 (isolation #41) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:45 am

sweet I'm a fucking double voter

UberNinja · Post Post #1335 (isolation #42) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:10 pm

Mala is scum

Vote: Mala

UberNinja · Post Post #1337 (isolation #43) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Okay, now the vote is serious.

UberNinja · Post Post #1339 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:46 pm

Did you read post 1334, or are you just playing dumb?

UberNinja · Post Post #1345 (isolation #45) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:46 am

In post 1340, Nachomamma8 wrote:CASH RULES EVERYTHING
AROUND ME

mala is town goddammit uber

Now the circle is complete.

Unvote; Vote: Nacho

UberNinja · Post Post #1347 (isolation #46) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:08 am

why is mala town

UberNinja · Post Post #1349 (isolation #47) » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:41 am

your avatar

my eyes

UberNinja · Post Post #1358 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:11 am

I'm pretty ambivalent about who we lynch right now but I don't want it to be qwints

UberNinja · Post Post #1359 (isolation #49) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:12 am

I'll probably read some more later, but I can't be arsed for this game right now

UberNinja · Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:42 pm

then vote me

UberNinja · Post Post #1363 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:01 pm

Vote: Lastsurvivor

UberNinja · Post Post #1373 (isolation #52) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:39 am

Why is LS town nacho

And p_a I'm vla on phone but look at LS's posts next to qwints
Look at his reaction to my vote

Also, try to discern the reason I voted him even though it was unstated

UberNinja · Post Post #1374 (isolation #53) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:41 am

Everyone should sheep me instead of nacho anyway, I'm a better scum hunter

UberNinja · Post Post #1376 (isolation #54) » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:44 am

He's read more if the game I mean, but my gut is better

Pedit: yeah but I'm not scum this game, so

UberNinja · Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:47 am

In post 1384, mastin2 wrote:DANG IT, WHY THE HECK IS THE SITE SO ACTIVE ON FRIDAYS?!?
...And why the heck did I let myself get spread out across almost every single forum making it so that I have to keep track of them all? >_<
/not consciously procrastinating, but not getting the VCA done.

that's what the bookmarks page is for

not buying it

stop being lazy

UberNinja · Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:03 am

In post 1387, mastin2 wrote:As a rule, I refuse to use those fancy forum features.

I browse manually.

what are you like a mafiascum amish mormon who refuses to use cars and the internet?

that's lolworthy

no but seriously though

UberNinja · Post Post #1397 (isolation #57) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:07 am

In post 1396, Lastsurvivor wrote:Also the sequence of posts #1364 to #1366 is hilarious.

I did notice that.
it seems pretty survivalistic but I've seen town act that way too under pressure.

what do you think of nacho's tunneling? Di you think he is town for it? Because until I joke voted mala and then reaction tested you, nacho was my choice yo lynch. I still kind of prefer him, but I gotta read mala too when I get back

vote: nacho

this tunneling and generally just blanket dumbness from nacho feels different than his town game

Also if anyone thinks Loran is anything but town, I've got some bad news for you
Phone post, sry for any typos
Still on v/la

UberNinja · Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:21 am

penguin don't do it

i'm serious

UberNinja · Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:40 pm

He's pushed stupid wagons before but this one really doesn't feel good and he is pushing it harder and more mindlessly than feels townish for him. Also I have seen like no case on qwints at all, and mehdi's iso feels town, and the whole wagon feels lazy and like a stupid lynch mob with torches who haven't even heard what the guy has done wrong, if anything, but just want to lili someone, and he'll do. That's my feeling explained a little more robustly.

UberNinja · Post Post #1402 (isolation #60) » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:50 pm

Oh damn, I just read the flavor scenes. This is AWESOME.

UberNinja · Post Post #1404 (isolation #61) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:50 pm

if qwints is scum he if doing an absolutely terrible job at it. Nacho pressure doesn't feel like bussing. It feels like casual opportunism a la me and vifam last game. Almost like fate used to play. read newbie 1255 nacho plz

UberNinja · Post Post #1406 (isolation #62) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:58 pm

Yeah, and?

UberNinja · Post Post #1407 (isolation #63) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:17 pm

That's probably not clear. ^

A better way to say it would be: thanks for sniping what's possibly the easiest part if my post to snipe, and ignoring the meat of it.

UberNinja · Post Post #1408 (isolation #64) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:20 pm

Also, what relational tells are there between guile and qwints?

UberNinja · Post Post #1409 (isolation #65) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:30 pm

Also, we are here to lynch scum, not terrible town.

UberNinja · Post Post #1410 (isolation #66) » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:34 pm

Also, why am I on VLA and I'm still the only one posting right now? Where is everyone? This is one of the most apathetic games I have ever been in.

Post, dammit. And lynch nacho

UberNinja · Post Post #1412 (isolation #67) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:14 am

fighting the urge to replace out...

UberNinja · Post Post #1415 (isolation #68) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:26 am

oh so you're here

explain this qwints thing to me

cause it's not adding up and it's sloppy as fuck

UberNinja · Post Post #1417 (isolation #69) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:28 am

In post 1414, Nachomamma8 wrote:i should get killed tonight if scum are halfway competent, so you won't have to worry about me
mala is a bit low activity, but she's been easy and light with me as town and her Adam meta push was something that I SUPER approved of and was seeing eye to eye on, so either that was a baller ass frame or us sharing a thought process, which is nice. LS is town as fuck mostly for secret reasons, but still town as fuck. and loran is so horribly obvtown that it's like god damn he is so fucking town

i agree on loran, and i used to agree on LS, and i disagree on mala. you're 1.5 for 3, which is surprisingly scummy

also why are you such a good kill? and why isn't this WIFOM that when you're still alive tomorrow, it's another "baller ass frame"
because that's all i'm sensing it to be

UberNinja · Post Post #1419 (isolation #70) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:34 am

In post 1416, Nachomamma8 wrote:mastin has been IIoA'ing like a motherfucker lately, but that's usually a sign that he's going to get something together if he doesn't procrastinate
pa is cool, town, cool. i'm decently confident in this, but not positive.

k

cool story bro

but qwints/mehdi = prob town

and nobody wants to talk about taht

UberNinja · Post Post #1420 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:34 am

In post 1418, Nachomamma8 wrote:you'll see once we get some replacements.
but seriously, we need some replacements.

good answer

UberNinja · Post Post #1422 (isolation #72) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:36 am

"gut"

plus, why are they scum?

UberNinja · Post Post #1424 (isolation #73) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:11 am

well if you're asking me to provide quantifiable evidence that they are in fact not evil then i suppose i am at a loss for words however i must insist that you provide me with something similar yet inverse before i will be even slightly aroused as to the viability of the wagons of the person or persons in question

i'm sure you understand

your evasiveness on this matter is noted, in any case

UberNinja · Post Post #1426 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:15 am

that shits not gonna fly nacho

UberNinja · Post Post #1429 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:34 am

Information with very limited Actualusefulness?

UberNinja · Post Post #1430 (isolation #76) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:34 am

In post 1427, Nachomamma8 wrote:It will.

yea you're scum

next

UberNinja · Post Post #1432 (isolation #77) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:03 am

are you talking to me?

UberNinja · Post Post #1437 (isolation #78) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:24 am

In post 1431, Loranthaceae wrote:^He's not like he was in our newbie game at all. He was reserved and calculated as town and made good meta arguments and had awesome defense after derphammering. You're not giving him much to defend though. Why do you think he's scum? Why am I obvtown and why can't you be, is it because I hammered guille? That could've been a buss on a mere goon.

I think Ice's vote on guille came at a time where I was about to unload on penguin. If Uber/Ice + penguin are the scumteam then penguin is the Mafia Psychic.

wasn't he scum in that game?

damn i might be mis-remembering

UberNinja · Post Post #1438 (isolation #79) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:25 am

no, i have it right

newbie 1255: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=22546

UberNinja · Post Post #1444 (isolation #80) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:14 am

for a push on what seems to be an easy lynch, without giving reasons

duh

are you even paying attention

UberNinja · Post Post #1445 (isolation #81) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:14 am

at least you're active and posting. that's another reason you're town btw

UberNinja · Post Post #1447 (isolation #82) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:21 am

well now i HAVE to stay

nacho sticks out because nacho usually has reasons for things nacho does

unlike other players who do things because what the fuck ever

nacho being less than forthcoming with his reasons is fuck you at best and scummy at worst

UberNinja · Post Post #1449 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:28 am

yes "can you give me a reason why you think X is scum" is clearly rolefishing

i'm done talking to you

UberNinja · Post Post #1451 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:34 am

kinda sucks nobody is on who:

a) is willing to talk about anything
b) has coherent trains of thought

UberNinja · Post Post #1454 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:32 pm

Yeah it's coherent but it's no less useless than anyone else us being

UberNinja · Post Post #1456 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:11 pm

yeah, everyone in this game is stupid

or inactive as fuck

UberNinja · Post Post #1459 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:45 am

obligatory "nooooooo don't lynch me"

do you think i'm actually scum? or are you just bored. or am i just the only one posting and therefore i'm the one who's on your radar while everyone else who is not posting is not? because it seems you vote whoever posted last, with some bright idea as to why they're scum for 4 seconds, before you move onto the next person like a goldfish who's forgotten why they're swimming the direction they're swimming

i remember playing with you once before, and i remember your play being extremely hard to follow.

UberNinja · Post Post #1460 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:45 am

also i saw the bortrax game you linked. well played

flavor was funny as fuck too

UberNinja · Post Post #1463 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:28 am

Nacho

UberNinja · Post Post #1465 (isolation #90) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:33 am

UberNinja · Post Post #1467 (isolation #91) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:35 am

I like this guy.

Moar votes on the Nachowagon.

UberNinja · Post Post #1471 (isolation #92) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:19 am

why isnt Nacho a lynch candidate?

UberNinja · Post Post #1472 (isolation #93) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:19 am

In post 1468, Malakittens wrote:CtD- you scum?

In post 1469, CrashTextDummie wrote:No, why do you ask?

uhh.... what?

"why do you ask"?

UberNinja · Post Post #1474 (isolation #94) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:23 am

I give up

UberNinja · Post Post #1475 (isolation #95) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:24 am

like honestly i just wanna leave this game and stop wasting my time in it

UberNinja · Post Post #1477 (isolation #96) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:00 am

yeah, i'm good as scum
yeah, i'd probably do some of that if i was scum
and yeah, a lot of what you're saying actually makes sense in that post

but i'm town and you're wrong

i'm curious though, do you think qwints is town?

UberNinja · Post Post #1480 (isolation #97) » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:00 am

what the fuck

i dont even

UberNinja · Post Post #1491 (isolation #98) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:01 am

Vote: CrashTextDummie

The whole "Never sheeping UberNinja again" thing feels like he's trying to pin his Nacho vote entirely on me, which is scummy.
Yeah I was wrong about Nacho but CTD should be taking responsibility for his own vote. Looks like scum backtracking/blaming.

Also, Loran is still probtown and the fact that CTD is voting him is terrible as well.

Mala is also on my radar. Mastin too.

UberNinja · Post Post #1499 (isolation #99) » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:01 am

summary of my QT from memory is:

nacho looks scummy
mala looks scummy
loran looks towny

lol, nacho was reading "nacho looks scummy" and had to keep a straight face about it. haha
its rather embarrassing in hindsight, but i know how to laugh at myself

@ above post: yeah sure whatever, and yes i do but not right now

UberNinja · Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:07 am

MOAR

UberNinja · Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:09 am

In post 1502, CrashTextDummie wrote:
In post 1499, UberNinja wrote:summary of my QT from memory is:

nacho looks scummy
mala looks scummy
loran looks towny

"CTD ribbed me for voting the mind reader, let's vote for him".

Why sure, that makes perfect sense.

Mastin, apparently you haven't improved at reading me. Please suck less and be more town.

when anybody but me does the "herp derp paraphrase" thing

it's scum

you can die now thx

UberNinja · Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:32 am

hey that's actually a good catch

i feel better about you now mastin

choo choo on the CTD wagon

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:25 am

In post 1511, Loranthaceae wrote:Uber why do you think my curiosity is limited to what you wrote in the QT?

huh?

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:51 am

he wrote that breasts are awesome

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:14 am

okay here's the gist:

1. mod post
2. breasts
3. he guesses junpei is the mind reader (correctly, it turns out), he says you are pushing for a cityelectric lynch over him because he's easy to lynch when he used to be hard to lynch (and you shouldn't know this, being a newer player), and says he doesn't like how you stuck to CE because it looks like you were reluctant to switch under pressure, and says that your screaming is over hte top, and that you're probscum with adam 12, and some other stuff which is irrelevant due to it being wrong as fuck.
4. says that antagonizing people isn't a good way to get reads -- i disagree
5. tries to get the mind reader to post
6. says he'll be dumbfounded if you Loran are scum and adam is not
7. is confused that jal agrees with him apparently
8. says adam 12 says fake sounding shit about jal's emotions
9. says tbone and juls are probtown, says CE is the whipping boy for hte scum team, but feels more new than scummy. says mehdi needs to get active or get pressured. says he hates junpei if he's the mind reader (lol).
10. says he wishes the backup MR knew who they were. complains that this setup is scum sided
11. complains more. says that the backup claiming in their QT would be funny. says the setup is a classic error.
12. says that the mind reader knows who the backup is, but not vice versa
13. says free suicide for everyone
14. makes a nondescript post bitching about something which i have no idea what it's about
15. says that guille is scum
16. says post 241 sucks dick and is a shitty catchup post, says Tbone is probably the night kill over himself (greyice), and that he doesn't think Tbone is MR, but that he's def. taking the bullet for them
17. junpei is town because of post 340
18. he caught cancer from malakittens catchup
19. same as above, only more so. jokes w/mod
20. says he knows junpei is the mind reader again, wonders again why mehdi is so passive, complains about mala more
21. says that CE is the scum team's whipping boy again (does he mean scapegoat or fall guy? if so, he's using "whipping boy" wrong). also mentions that Loran's wagon is prob town driven bceause he's that fucking annoying
22. says CE and loran are taken to L-1 and Jal is impossible to get people to vote. has paranoia about Tbone being scum
23. says Tbone is scum. it must be night because he asks the MR to nail Tbone to the wall for saying "sure guille too" after greyice pointed him out. complains that he is being buddied
24. gibberish
25. gibberish
26. mala is scum whether or not guile is scum
27. tells MR to get mala lynched
28. pokes fun at junpei
29. says to lynch mala. says loran is annoying and he wants to lynch him
30. wall of reads
31. surprised jal is useful, thinks mala needs to die
32. lastsurvivor is town, guesses that LS might be MR
33. makes comments about mastin and juls, says mala isscummy
34. says he's not as sold on CE being town as he is showing in the game thread. says mastin doesn't like bussing as scum, but will start a mala wagon, so who knows which if either of them is scum? says the mala wagon is good though. can't wait for mastin's stupid VCA
35. wonders what happens if CE/mala are town, and mehdi is scum? has a plan for what happens in that scenario, with who mehdi-scum would take out in what order, if that were the case.

---my posts start---

36. hmm this is interesting. complaining about game being complicated
37. cop out about not wanting to do a re-read

38. nacho is scummy for not dropping the qwints wagon. loran and qwints are probtown. Tbone thought p_a was town and she's not as scummy as the first page makes her look. mala and nacho stick out the most, followed by mastin, who along with mala seems to be faking demoralization, but it seems like mala is faking it more
39. i complain that the game is boring and that nobody will lynch nacho, who is probscum along with mala. mastin and LS don't look great but they aren't that scummy either. loran is town

that's it

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:15 am

yes he literally said "breasts"

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:21 am

CTD/Mala it is

WAGONS

MAKE THEM

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:29 am

In post 1520, Malakittens wrote:@UN - You are so wrong about your read on me - it hurts.

That's entirely possible but I think my odds are good.

UberNinja · Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:30 am

Of course Loran is town, btw

Vote CTD if you want to live.

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:48 am

Because he's transparently obvtown

And you're scumplaining

Get lynched

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:33 am

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:27 am

No I was just posting a new smiley cause FUCK THE POLICE

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:58 am

So anyways. Hello?

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:09 am

because he's scum

UberNinja · Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:04 pm

you don't need to hear it from the horse's mouth

my word should be good enough for you

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 am

In post 1549, Loranthaceae wrote:I won't hammer, unless I will

LOL

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:21 am

Okay that's interesting and

Unvote

barring counterclaim

So what are your conclusions from 1557?

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:21 am

In post 1558, penguin_alien wrote:...I just realized how obscene my signal is. How awkward.

How amusing.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:29 am

Why, because Maestro would surely be making a sexual joke by now?

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 am

my conclusions from having fail reads are

a) mala is scum
b) i am scum

and i know it's not b) so

vote: Mala

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:32 am

honestly i tend to out PRs as much as lynch scum

they display a lot of the same tells so how the fuck should i know who's who

don't fucking judge me

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:33 am

lolol

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:43 am

In post 1576, mastin2 wrote:CTD left out the convenient part where I actually had it narrowed down to three individuals--UN, himself (which I thought was the scumteam--CTD-UN), and Malakittens.

That's why the scum didn't hammer; the scum were already on. I thought UN was bussing his scumbuddy, hence why I didn't mention in-thread that UN was scum, but CTD can verify that I said as much.

VOTE: UberNinja.

dude it's Mala not me

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:14 pm

In post 1580, CrashTextDummie wrote:Again, UN. Who else?

Penguin or mastin

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:19 pm

Highly doubt it's loran and all things considered it's still more likely mastin or penguin than LS

UberNinja · Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:20 pm

i had it as you/mala in my head, so

UberNinja · Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:56 am

In post 1587, CrashTextDummie wrote:I have a bunch of questions coming up for all players concerning various aspects of the game, btw.

One more quickie for Mastin2 on current events:

Mastin2 wrote:And UN's pretty much confscum at this point. Pushing MalaK is a desperate last-minute bus when he's ran out of cards to play.

All combinations of scum you've presented today have involved heavy-duty bussing. UN and I were bussing each other. Now UN is bussing Mala. What makes you think scum is likely to bus at this stage of the game?

though i want mastin to answer this too, here's my take

its kinda cause he is always paranoid, even though he knows i don't really bus as scum, he's doing his "herp derp mastinreads" thing and hoping its right

that or he's scum, which is possible. if mala is town (which would be unthinkable at this point)
then it's mastin as scum with probably penguin buddy

UberNinja · Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:57 am

In post 1588, Loranthaceae wrote:LS should be scum.

outside chance imo

vote Mala

UberNinja · Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:18 am

In post 1591, Loranthaceae wrote:I'm going to vote whoever the MR is voting for unless he's pushing for my lynch in which case I'll go apeshit in this thread. Is there anyone here who is considering refusing sheeping the mind reader?

me, if he doesn't vote for Mala

UberNinja · Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:11 am

In post 1598, penguin_alien wrote:Prod dodge while waiting for CrashTextDummie to compile everything.

this doesn't look good

CTD i really really really really really don't think loran is going to flip scum

REALLY REALLY REALLY

UberNinja · Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:25 am

In post 1600, Loranthaceae wrote:Dude Uber, if you are town looks like we got to stick together and lynch this MR if we want to win

uh, if it's you vs. him then i'm definitely lynching you buddy

unless you are counter-claiming him (?)

why the FUCK doesn't anyone want to lynch mala
also penguin is starting to look scummier too

UberNinja · Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:37 pm

In post 1603, CrashTextDummie wrote:
UberNinja
:
1. Serious answer now: Why was that one post from me at the beginning of today enough for you to vote me over your previous suspects when you've never mentioned me or my predecessor before either in-thread or in your QT?
2. Why did you go from having independent thoughts and suspicions yesterday to falling in line with the lynch du jour today?
3. Why do you think Loran is town?
4. Please give substantiated reads on Mastin and Penguin_Alien.

1. gut
2. because I was the one pushing it
3. because he's playing in a way that's extremely, extremely hard to fake as scum, and it's completely consistent with the town game i played with him before
4. don't really have anything substantive on either of them. again, gut.

but i have played with both of them at least 2-3 times

UberNinja · Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:38 pm

p.s. look how "invested" mala is now that i'm interested in lynching her, and now that she knows you are the backup MR, and you're actually grilling her

she was plenty content to sit back and relax before

she's pretty much confscum

UberNinja · Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:49 pm

In post 1605, CrashTextDummie wrote:I mangled Mastin's question 4:

In post 1603, CrashTextDummie wrote:
4. Why does your idea on whether scum is likely to (cross)bus conveniently change to suit your purpose?

this is a good catch. willing to lynch mastin, but only after mala

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:03 am

In post 1618, CrashTextDummie wrote:UN:

In post 1610, UberNinja wrote:1. gut
2. because I was the one pushing it
3. because he's playing in a way that's extremely, extremely hard to fake as scum, and it's completely consistent with the town game i played with him before
4. don't really have anything substantive on either of them. again, gut.

but i have played with both of them at least 2-3 times

Be advised that I'm only asking you relatively softball questions because you've given me very little to work with and I decided not to ask you about GreyIce's portion of the game. These answers are completely unacceptable.

You do not get to question Mala's investment in the game when your usage of "gut" is pretty much just a euphemism for "I can't be bothered to read". Pop quiz: Say we lynch Mala today. What do you think is going to happen when she flips town and I'm gone tomorrow? If you are town, you are jeopardizing our victory in a big, big way with your conduct here.

Your push against me was
really
disproportionate if all you were going on was gut. You sure you don't want to amend that answer?

yes i am sure that "gut" is my final answer

and no matter what mala flips you will be gone tomorrow as you are the only confirmed town and scum needs as big of a mislynch pool as possible

if she flips town though the scum is almost certainly mastin/penguin
and for DAMN sure it's 2 of mastin/penguin/lastsurvivor

and yes, i can't really be arsed about this game because i have plenty of others to play and this one is low on the totem pole because i have already found scum, and now they just need to be lynched

don't make me fucking rage at you

just because you're backup MR (no counter-claims, so it's true) doesn't mean that suddenly you're the best scumhunter here, it just means you're confirmed town, and confirmed townies are quite often STUPID AS SHIT

so don't expect me to follow you

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:31 am

I am caring about this game less and less. It's pretty clear that you intend to force through a lynch on whoever you damn well please.

I'm going to go along with whatever everyone else wants to do, and then whether or not that person flips scum, I am pushing Mala tomorrow.

We have 1 mislynch left and there are 2/3 scum in mala/mastin/penguin

with a smallllll outside chance of LS

so it's pretty much useless to argue about who we lynch today

we have enough lynches to get 3 people dead, as long as we hit scum at least once.

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:32 am

see look. i care so little about this game that even though i was trying to capitalize and punctuate in the beginning, i ended up just stopping.

math is on our side here, let's just do shit. as long as we don't lynch me, you, or loran, we're going to win.

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:27 pm

LS are you scum or not

tell me so i can break this game

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:58 pm

I'm not either

Okay now scum is 2 of mala/mastin/penguin/loran, and it's not loran

so we have a 66.7% chance of hitting scum today

if we miss today then we know exactly who scum is tomorrow
but if we hit today then we have a 50/50 chance tomorrow

i almost hope we miss today, except that i think we can figure this out

and by figure this out, i mean i hope we lynch Malakittens

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:01 pm

i'm halfway willing to lynch p_a instead of mala

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:35 pm

My thoughts are that it basically confirms me as town, and basically confirms that Mala is scum.

WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE I HAVEN'T ALREADY SAID THAT TWELVE TIMES

UberNinja · Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:40 pm

it doesn't but i have conf bias already

but i already said i dont care who we lynch today
as long as it is mala or penguin

i am not going to lynch loran. ever

UberNinja · Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:36 pm

okay let's lynch Mala now

i can't keep this game on my plate i need to finish others

as scum, LS wouldn't be trying to clear me in 1641 based off GI interactions with Junpei

if Mala flips town, scum is penguin/mastin
if Mala flips scum, the other is penguin or mastin

game is broken

ba da boom, ba da bing

now let's just blow this thing and go home.

UberNinja · Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:37 pm

seriously you guys, it's been 2 days since anyone posted anything.

it's time for this day/game to end

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:21 am

In post 1645, penguin_alien wrote:CTD, if you have a case to make on Loranthaceae, please make it so we can move on. Otherwise put in your actual two cents so we can do something.

this post

this post right here

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:22 am

and i'm not saying "this" with the above post, though i do in fact want to "this" 1645

but it's another thing

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:39 am

In post 1656, CrashTextDummie wrote:Loran, based on his posting in thread and in his QT alone, I'm having trouble seeing LS as scum. Further analysis could change that, but for now I'd appreciate it if you could look into the possibility of PA-scum or Mastin-scum instead.

can i take that to mean that you don't think loran is scum any more?

great

can we lynch mala now

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:54 am

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there's one thing worth reading in there

and you should all be doing it

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:51 am

i told you, i am perfectly fine lynching any of the three, but i prefer mala

this game is broken wide and we just need a lynch to stop it from stagnating

seriously there was a 48 hour period where nobody posted
not even the mod to tell us to get a-postin'

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:02 pm

The more mastin talks, the less likely it is I want to see him lynched today.

If not mala, ctd, will you style on penguin? She layin low

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:58 pm

In post 1678, penguin_alien wrote:Way to stick to your guns, UberNinja.

this reaction makes it even more likely that i'll be willing to switch

this looks like a scum dissuasion tactic

and trying to make me look scummy for being willing to vote her

yep. she's up there w/Mala now

Mala/penguin, calling it now

UberNinja · Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:08 pm

In post 1680, CrashTextDummie wrote:In summary:
LS should probably never be lynched, Mastin might be town after all, there's evidence towards a possible PA-Mala scumteam and Loran shouldn't be cleared.

I would like some input on this from everyone.

looks like we've finally arrived at, more or less, the same conclusion
i.e. lynch mala, p_a, and mastin. probably in that order

your points about loran would be great except his behavior would be extreeeeemely hard to fake as scum and i'm really just not seeing it

i am not as sure about LS as you, but i will take your word for it

that leaves only the three. if we lynch them 1-2-3 we win, whoever the one townie is that's mixed between the three

we have seven players and we have already more or less cleared 4 of them.

if you can trust me on loran, and if i trust you on LS (i choose too, because you have read him much more thoroughly than me) then this game is all but completely broken.

let's just FINISH THIS. please. thank you.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:45 am

In post 1684, Loranthaceae wrote:
In post 1679, CrashTextDummie wrote:
Loran wrote:Fact is T-Bone and Jal are dead because nobody seriously considered lynching them.

How do you know this? You using this line of thought to incriminate UN doesn't sit right with me.

Because I was there remember?

In post 1679, CrashTextDummie wrote:

Loran wrote:Uber should've been able to tell Mala's alignment more quickly.

Also expand on this, please.

I'm talking about my last game where Uber, Mala and myself were town and Jal was scum. Uber replaced in and almost immediately defended Mala from my and other people's attacks and stuck to it until the end.

He almost immediately started callnig Jal town and then he explained why.. also note that Jal got to play with Uber about 3 times before that.. in all of them she was scum and Uber was town and Uber was the deciding factor in getting her lynched.
I saw various posts were he claimed he could read Mala and Jal like an open book.

In post 1679, CrashTextDummie wrote:

Loran wrote:
Also Mala looked to me like she was trying to incriminate me by twisting something I've said in the previous game we played together were I was VT and she was a PR

What are you referring to here?

I'm referring to that game. Let me get the quote real quick.. can't because forum locked. Links:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4197310
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4197981
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4199833

Links for Uber's awesomeness:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4215511 - correct reads
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4218009 - voting jal
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4218214 - defending mala
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4219824 - explaining his jal read
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4221820 - enforcing his read list the; 3 scum were in his 4 player list. DAY!!!! 1!!!!!
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4224985 - Moar Jal Votes (sound familiar?)

In post 1679, CrashTextDummie wrote:
Re: Penguin - so are your conclusions that you have no conclusions? You present various scenarios without giving indication on whether you find one more likely than the other.

Yes, I totally suck at that. I'm just giving you all the info I got, some extra insight for you you to make a judgement on these people. I know you want opinions and stuff because you figure people knew all along what they want and how they want to act etc. but that's horeshit. I change my mind a lot and if you look for continuity look for the big picture not the small, fast-paced shiz.

Hot DAYUM I need to go back to that style!

I got more sheepers when I used capital letters, punctuation, and complete sentences.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:48 am

In post 1686, Loranthaceae wrote:Input on your analysis. You are completely neglecting a subjective evaluation of my style of play in this game. Because if you wouldn't you'd understand that I get in people's faces to get information for everyone not just myself. Of course I got in the pigeon's face when he replaced in because I had stuff on Mehdi that didn't make sense to me.. but I was nowhere near the assurance of him being scum especially with LS, Mala and penguin around.
My read on Guille was almost instant.. I didn't even need to get in his face, do the vote dance etc. I immediately started popping out reasons for him being scum so people slowly catch on to it. He was a lurker in a setup where lurking is an imba tactic. Despite that he found the time to bogart something that's pretty much off-topic (penguin confirmation issue) A LOT. Didn't make sense as town ffs.. I worked my ass off to get us info, I went all the way with the confirmation issue to get people's reactions and reactions about reactions and all he has to say is that it's not relevant? TWICE? AND he's voting me? Sticking to his vote? Fuck that .. he's scum, Thank you, Come again, Good Bye BANG!

LS was the worst fucking pain in the ass during Day1 .. just look at who he's stressing.. ME, look at who he's defending .. GUILLE!, Look at who he's obstructing from doing his job.. ME! on penguin. And talking so much shit about him not defending lurking .. wtf man. It's right there written black on white. And I've looked at his meta and it's the same type of questions that he asks as scum in that Buckshot Mafia with Jal. I looked at a game where he was town and SURPRISE NO SHITTY QUESTIONS. How the fuck can that be? He's scum. That's how.

Dammit. I might have to re-read LS myself.

I thought about it more last night, and CTD's read on you is so bad that I am not sure if I can trust his read on LS, even though I said I would before.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:36 am

His questionable actions are a large part of what make him so town. See: my games, my questionable actions.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:37 am

In post 5, Lastsurvivor wrote:VOTE: Mala

Serious vote!!!1!1!!11!1!!1111!!!!!!!1!!1!!!!

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:37 am

i could totally see that either way

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:39 am

In post 1695, penguin_alien wrote:UberNinja, I do think that proposing a compromise lynch when CTD hasn't rejected your first choice is less than rigorous.

You do, do you?

Well here's what I think.

I think that "less than rigorous" are the kinds of weasel words that scum use when they're trying to throw dirt on somebody who otherwise is obvtown.

So good luck w/that line of thinking.

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:17 pm

In post 1704, CrashTextDummie wrote:
unvote, vote: PA

In post 1705, penguin_alien wrote:So you prefer people to kiss up and be all penitent about incorrect reads. Got it.

And you think I sat around Day One being confused and irritated about the confirmation delay accusations when I could have figured it out much more quickly if I had scum buddies telling me I was late to the game. Because irritating people on purpose over trivial aspects of the game is a good way to avoid being lynched.

I guess we're allowed to vote now.

VOTE: Malakittens

Unvote; Vote: penguin_alien

this pompous ass-kissing for days, and then suddenly, when voted, votes the other wagon to encourage a hammer on anyone but herself

LOL NOPE

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:18 pm

i mean seriously, look at that shit

honestly that's the scummiest thing i've seen all game

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:31 pm

"if" you flip town

lol

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:31 pm

ARE you town?

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:36 pm

what does that have to do with your alignment?

and explain to me in small words what you've done that might have a slight prayer of making me think you're town

i am notorious for last-minute mercy, if you are convincing enough

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:37 pm

nonono i thought so too but let's give her one last chance

also i know how susceptible she is to shitty endgame mislynches based on ny 161

and i was the one pushing it, in that game

so

yah

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:37 pm

so penguin alien

sup

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:24 pm

other than opportunistic voting, strategic lurking, weasel words, reactionary behavior, and ticking all of my scumdar checkboxes at the same time?

well, not much i guess

UberNinja · Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:52 pm

no, this is what you call opportunism

AND fear

AND abdication of responsibility

In post 1704, CrashTextDummie wrote:
unvote, vote: PA

In post 1705, penguin_alien wrote:I guess we're allowed to vote now.

VOTE: Malakittens

a) nobody can stop you from voting, way to try to pin your not-having-voted-anybody directly onto CTD
b) i love how you voted right after he voted for you, like you couldn't have voted before. i have been voting mala the whole time
c) if you're scum with mala that was masterful distancing btw

it boils down to: you're trying to make confirmed town (CTD) and basically confirmed town (me) look scummy or inconsistent or anti-town in any way you can, to try to buoy yourself up

and that's a stupid way to play scum. some people just don't get it though

and when you flip scum that makes mala like 50% more likely to be town

and if you flip town then it's like 90% mala/mastin with a 10% or so chance that it's LS.

no chance at all that it's loran.

so, supposing you flip town, who do you want us to vote tomorrow, mastin, mala, or LS?

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:31 am

In post 1695, penguin_alien wrote:re: VCA:

I'm assuming for this that GreyICE-UberNinja is town based on GreyICE knowing who the MR was from Day One on with Junpei-Nachomamma8 only getting NK'd Night Three. As I said earlier, I could see waiting one night to take down the MR, but waiting two nights doesn't track. So I'm assuming all votes that GreyICE and UberNinja made are town.

If we interpret the guille2015 as mastin2 bussing, and take into account that scum have day chat, such a move Day One should be optimized for both mastin2 and the other scum to get credit. That Lastsurvivor completely missed the boat on that vote implies to me that he isn't scum. The way the wagon went down knowing that bussing had to have been in play merits more than just the null read you propose, CrashTextDummie. That reduces the scum pool to mastin2, Malakittens, and Loranthaceae.

Day Two has mastin2 and Loranthaceae in rock-solid agreement on the Lastsurvivor wagon. To the point where mastin2's reasons for joining are Loranthaceae's arguments. It doesn't feel likely that they'd both go after a target with one propping up the other's case. mastin2 and Malakittens manage to stay on different wagons the whole day. This can be seen more clearly in the breakdown of where the votes stood every two days here.

By Day Three, both mastin2 and Malakittens (and Loranthaceae) end up on the qwints wagon. Given that mastin2 found out who the MR was that day, and the MR was the only other wagon being floated with any momentum behind it, it stands to reason that scum would rather be together on a town lynch than leave one of them as having targeted the MR. That the MR was supporting the wagon they were on only helps.

I don't see anything that points away from a Loranthaceae-Malakittens scum team per se, but given how much Loranthaceae has jumped around in his voting it's not altogether surprising. Based on the VCA and MR knowledge information, I'd rank scum team likelihoods as Malakittens-mastin2, Malakittens-Loranthaceae, and mastin2-Loranthaceae, with the last of these far behind. Which puts my preferred lynch order as Malakittens, mastin2, Loranthaceae.

I will note that to expand on CrashTextDummie's thoughts on my activity in the AngryPidgeon vs. qwints wagon, let's suppose a mastin2-me scum team. So here I apparently have all the groundwork laid to jump on town-AngryPidgeon. It's the end of page 42, my vote is free, and I don't capitalize on the chance to hammer town? Instead I go jump on a wagon with my scum buddy? Not so much. More to the point, my 'calculation' here was that Nachomamma8 was pushing a lynch on AngryPidgeon with no decent arguments and my two towniest reads, mastin2 and Jal, were on the other wagon. Coupled with my doubts about Mehdi2277, it's not a hard choice.

And yes, I hopped off the qwints wagon. Although I do ask, if Malakittens and I were scum together with day chat ability, what good does it do to implicate both of us in the wagon? If we wanted to stir it up, as Malakittens did in joining, why not have me 'get impatient with the lack of new arguments being made' and jump back on to declare it L-1? Malakittens continues her apathy, I'm the only one tarred with the brush of the townie lynch, and the law of averages means that Loranthaceae's vote ends up hammering at some point.

UberNinja, I do think that proposing a compromise lynch when CTD hasn't rejected your first choice is less than rigorous.

okay second time reading through this post it sounds a lot better

Unvote

CTD I know this sounds crazy

but we have to lynch Mala first

it's the only way i'll be able to feel right about what's happening

penguin_alien is actually trying and putting in effort and doing exactly what i'd expect town to do in her circumstance, "if" slip be damned, and opportunistic vote on mala be damned.

and look at what mala is doing
that's right, pretty much fucking nothing

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:32 am

now, let's look at the votes for today

who's had a chance to be hammered by scum (within reason, not like a dual team quick-hammer that makes them both look idiotic and scummy) that HASN'T been hammered?

(if anyone)

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:56 am

In post 1726, penguin_alien wrote:Votes from the start of Day Four:

Loranthaceae: CTD
CTD: UberNinja, mastin

at the end of page 61, and all seven of us were posting somewhere around there; this was pre-CTD MR reveal.

Malakittens: Lastsurvivor

by end of page 62. CTD reveals on page 63, at which point UN unvotes and moves his vote to Malakittens:

Loranthaceae: CTD
CTD: mastin
Malakittens: Lastsurvivor, Uberninja

CTD asks people to unvote to avoid anyone being in range of lynching, Loranthaceae votes mastin, Lastsurvivor unvotes, mastin moves to Uberninja:

Loranthaceae: CTD
Uberninja: mastin
Malakittens: Uberninja
mastin: Loranthaceae

Page 65, Loranthaceae votes for Lastsurvivor:

Loranthaceae: CTD
Uberninja: mastin
Malakittens: Uberninja
Lastsurvivor: Loranthaceae

Page 67, Lastsurvivor votes for mastin and mastin votes Malakittens:

Loranthaceae: CTD
Malakittens: Uberninja, mastin
Lastsurvivor: Loranthaceae
mastin: Lastsurvivor

Page 69, CTD votes me, I vote Malakittens, UberNinja votes me:

penguin: CTD, Uberninja
Malakittens: mastin, penguin
Lastsurvivor: Loranthaceae
mastin: Lastsurvivor

There was a brief period before Uberninja moved his vote that Malakittens was at L-1 (30 minutes or so)

Malakittens was lynchable for a while there, and CTD was lynchable pre-reveal.

Thanks.

Do you think this means Malakittens is more likely to be scum? It was only half an hour.
Or do you think it has pretty much no bearing on things.

Also, scum probably didn't want to lynch someone while the MR backup wasn't revealed yet.

Who seemed reluctant to vote?

btw

Unvote

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:56 am

In post 1730, CrashTextDummie wrote:In fairness, Mala also mostly talked about me as a suspect, though she didn't explicitly express willingness to lynch. Could also easily be interpreted as tiptoeing.

that's what i was looking for

Vote: Mala

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:06 am

Hello Guy, do you have anything to say?

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:21 am

Did you get the UberNinja action figure?

It has authentic battle damage

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:18 am

No. I think you're town. I'm asking about between p_a/mala/mastin/LS who seemed reluctant

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:54 am

In post 1743, mastin2 wrote:VOTE: Penguin Alien.

Vote Mala

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:24 am

ASDHKYADLSHFALSDHGA

one of them is scum

which one?

i say we lynch both of them

it doesn't matter the order

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:24 am

In post 1748, Loranthaceae wrote:VOTE: Malakittens

:goodposting:

now, mastin.

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:45 am

That's possible too

But I know at least one of you is scum

And we are lynching both of you until we hit scum

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:46 am

If you're actually town, make a case against p_a that's more than just OMGUS

because LS isn't being lynched today.

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:16 pm

she's scum, she's scum

UberNinja · Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:17 pm

No jk I will read that and digest it soon.

Does anyone think it could be mastin/LS?

UberNinja · Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:41 am

Fine, p_a today then.

Vote: p_a

Not sure if L-1 or hammer. Don't really care. Lynch needs to happen. Still V/LA.

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:04 am

Indeed. Lynch me now or forever hold your peace

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:05 am

p_a just your last thoughts on everyone please.

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:38 am

Good. Thanks.

IF you flip town, Mala goes tomorrow.
Even if I die tonight, Mala goes tomorrow.

But only IF penguin flips town.

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:29 am

Of course you're not liking it. Cause you're scum

All your bullshit about whether or not you'll be "brought to LyLo" is immaterial because obviously you aren't gonna NK yourself

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:42 am

So why do you keep saying "scum are going to bring me to LyLo" then

if someone like ME is dreaming if I think I'll be NK'd over CTD? then how the hell would YOU have any chance to be NK'd

All the more reason that all you're saying is bullshit

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:44 am

And I'm not perfect at this game, I'm just saying that there is at least one scum between you and penguin.

And if penguin flips scum then that means you're much more likely to be town due to her quick-voting you after CTD voted her.
Which, in turn, means there will be absolutely no reason to bellyache about tomorrow if you think she's scum.

So, do you think she's scum or not? And if not, then what about LS makes him scummier?

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:45 am

Also...

In post 1776, Malakittens wrote:Whatever Nacho. Apparently anything I say is being disregarded by you due to confirmation bias.

I'm Uber, not Nacho. Or were you making a point?

In post 1776, Malakittens wrote:Über you're normally then this. So I'm yet again thinking you're scum because Nacho was defending me and then bang killed.

Ah, yes. I, too, accidentally the whole thing.

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:48 am

In post 1741, Malakittens wrote:
Vote: LS

Will change to Penguin.

I will not vote Mastin or CTD.

I rather not vote UN or Lora.

What changed from here, Mala?

UberNinja · Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:45 am

@Mala:
If Penguin flips town, and if you are actually not scum, then there has to be some possibility that I am not considering, like it's mastin/LS (which people don't seem to think it is), or *shudder* that Loran is actually scum and I have been completely completely wrong this entire time. Which is a possibility I'm not willing to accept.

@Penguin:
If you're actually town, then tell me what I am supposed to believe. I highly doubt that Loran is scum, and CTD has good points that land LS as probably town too. I'd previously assumed it had to be one of you girls, and mastin, but if you are legitimately not trolling me, then I'm not so sure.

And yes, I am possibly a better NK target than CTD. I have been killed over conftown a number of times, and I have killed certain players ahead of conftown at least once or twice in endgame. I have also seen it happen in situations where I was not the killer or killee, just to cause confusion or make it so the person couldn't push the lynch they wanted/etc. Or else just to troll. You see what I am saying.

So here are all the possible scum teams if you are telling the truth:

Mala/Mastin
Mala/LS
Mala/Loran
Loran/LS
Loran/Mastin
Mastin/LS

Rank those in order of likelihood if you would please.

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:16 am

Your turn, Lor

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:12 am

In post 1788, Malakittens wrote:If you thought it was Uber/LS why did you even vote PA in the first place, Lora?

OH SHIT

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:13 am

In post 1789, UberNinja wrote:
In post 1788, Malakittens wrote:If you thought it was Uber/LS why did you even vote PA in the first place, Lora?

OH SHIT

aw, damn. i thought this was an amazing catch.

and it would have been, if penguin_alien had said it. it would nearly confirm her as town as well (speaking of which, where's the mod, i want to see that flip)

buuuut, since mala said it, it kind of ruins the HOLY SHIT moment

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:19 am

are you town or what

no more fucking games

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:20 am

i keep having a read one way and then the other and then one way and then the other and i keep trying to be open minded about it but then i remember that every time i second guess myself i end up getting bitten in the ass and you know for damn sure that you played the pants off everyone in the game that i modded and i was like "oh fuck no is this chick ever gonna do that to me" and here i am in the same exact spot

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:21 am

okay so if i'm town and you're town, then who of mastin/penguin/loran/LS is scum

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:21 am

i dont think it's loran.

UberNinja · Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:26 am

you sound so town. i want to beat myself over the head with a hammer

MAFIA PLAYINGN GODS

WHAT DO