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And that's just D1...
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Yeah that's why we have to lynch you, vig can't take you out.In post 56, -Grey- wrote:I'm a commuter!-
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Never. I don't come to a mafia site to make friends. Makes playing the game more difficult.In post 61, Firebringer wrote:When will we be friends persivul?-
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Yeah but they're carrot and celery sticks because he's not a Fat Boy.In post 114, Firebringer wrote:grey is bringing snacks.-
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Does anyone know this person? Is this normal for them? It feels awkward af. Also the double voter joke felt forced.In post 11, pieg wrote:Grey
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I thought of that but why would you make an alt if it's so obvious?In post 121, Desperado wrote:i don't know "pieg" but i know a "pieguyn"
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Because I was just fucking around earlier, then I went back and took a serious look. Seems pretty obvious to me, but there you go.In post 123, -Grey- wrote:Why vote for page 1 content now instead of on page 3?-
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Actually, yes, it's pretty obvious I was fucking around with that post. What about it do you take seriously? And why are you so concerned with an early L-2?In post 126, -Grey- wrote:I often miss the obvious, so forgive me for asking for clarification because you didn't seem to be fucking around when you put me at L-2.-
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Ah, so two more people would have had to vote you without counting for an lolhammer...but it would have beenIn post 128, -Grey- wrote:The L-2 didn't concern me. You being happy to put the wagon there on page 3 with nary a word of notice did because it put the wagon in lolhammer territory.myfault as the third-to-last guy for not giving a VC. Got it!-
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In post 73, WhemeStar wrote:Fire are you scum
Amazing scum hunting strategy. Why didn't I ever think of this?In post 134, WhemeStar wrote:
Are u scum two faceIn post 133, TwoFace wrote:So if grey is scum, check whemestar-
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The VC shows you with one vote on prana, so why are you still acting like you have 2 votes? With that VC I thought you were just joking about it.In post 141, pieg wrote:one of my votes is still on prana obv-
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Post restriction is bullshit. Mod said in the signup thread, "I guarantee no shenanigans etc."In post 160, Pine wrote:
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Happy Scum Day!
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That's an awful lot of town reads for page 7.In post 162, implosion wrote:@nexus, you missed my vote in the VC (assuming there's no shenanigans).
Desperado remains an excellent vote.
pieg is town. Persivul is town. Wheme looks somewhat town, but not as town as I thought he likely would if he was town so we'll see. massive is likely town. Fire's decently likely town, his early tone felt off but i like his reads.-
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Scum can't really scum hunt. So, throw out some town reads and give a weak reason on one of them to look like you're doing something. Yes, scum would do that.In post 182, implosion wrote:i did not say i was unsure on the whole.
and it was not for an extended period of time.
those are what fencesitting is. I really have no idea what you're saying right now.
Desperado, what do you think of me right now? Are you getting a scumread on me from this?-
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I don't mind the cutesy self-vote early in the the game, but leaving it there is bad.In post 223, Nexus wrote:PranaDevil (1) - PranaDevil-
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Or maybe your post was just poorly worded. When you speak of the actions of an unspecified person, and you mentioned person A in the previous line, then mention person B two lines subsequent, it's natural for the reader to conclude that the unspecified person was person A. Note that implosion drew the same conclusion.In post 233, -Grey- wrote:230 is exactly the kind of subtle shading Persivul excels at as scum because he knows he can pawn off his remark as not understanding the context of the post if he's called on it and lay the blame at my feet over it even though I already explained that I was referring to Desperado in the second statement of that post and he completely ignored it.-
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Note that I was responding AS I READ.In post 237, -Grey- wrote:Note that my point was clarified LONG BEFORE you tried to use my post to throw shade.-
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Why?In post 243, TwoFace wrote:So grey is probably scum.-
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That would be good. Mine's from ongoing so I can't say more.In post 251, TwoFace wrote:I'll have to go back and look at the game I played where grey was scum and lynched. I don't remember that kind of reactions you are saying-
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Sure. People repeat mistakes all the time.In post 253, -Grey- wrote:Without going into detail... do you really think I'd make the same mistake twice?-
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In post 293, Nosferatu wrote: pine wagon is shit; zero motivation either alignment for him to do what he's doing.In post 290, -Grey- wrote: What makes you think Scum wouldn't fake a post restriction to deter interactions and attempts to sort?-
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It's not a policy lynch when there's a reason, and a reason has been given.In post 334, Nosferatu wrote:
Because if he keeps doing it, we're obviously gonna just end up policy lynching?In post 324, Persivul wrote:In post 293, Nosferatu wrote: pine wagon is shit; zero motivation either alignment for him to do what he's doing.In post 290, -Grey- wrote: What makes you think Scum wouldn't fake a post restriction to deter interactions and attempts to sort?-
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I'm not crazy about Pine or pieg.In post 363, Firebringer wrote:I hope I do good enough this game where I am not at LYLO.
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If it's fake (probably) and enough people vote him, he'll probably start talking.In post 374, WhemeStar wrote:I wish Pine would stop with the fake post restriction, really makes me want to vote him.-
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It's his standard shtick. D1 he asks if we'll ever be friends, then votes me without explanation.In post 376, WhemeStar wrote:Fire why Persivul? I don't see anything in his ISO-
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Lol - Fat Boy don't want no stinking vegetables on his burger! Nice flavor mod!In post 401, Nexus wrote:Fat Boy got straight to work, peeling the lid off of the burger and removing the lettuce, tomato and gerkins.-
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People say it, but don't do it.In post 409, PranaDevil wrote:vote: Implosion
Getting a really bad vibe from his posts thus far. Same goes for Pieg. Though I'd happily hop on aPine wagonif he doesn't cut out that meme crap.-
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And it doesn't really say anything. Just buzz words.In post 429, Firebringer wrote:
This was my explanation btw.In post 370, Firebringer wrote:I realized my read on persivul was such a surface level read i needed to throw it out and reread and then when I read again taking out what i was town reading him for i didn't like his progressionn-
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You couldn't possibly think I'd dig through games for such a minor point. So, why are you pushing this request?In post 431, Firebringer wrote:
i don't think this is at all true, but ill wait for pers to give me examples.In post 427, Persivul wrote:
It's his standard shtick. D1 he asks if we'll ever be friends, then votes me without explanation.In post 376, WhemeStar wrote:Fire why Persivul? I don't see anything in his ISO-
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If he doesn't get another vote soon I'm moving to prada. That last post was really bad.In post 434, TwoFace wrote:I doubt he'd get modkilled for a slip if it's real so he could slip and mod issue an in game warning-
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If you're wondering if I legit think that, you definitely don't need links. With my memory I legit think wrong things all the time.In post 437, Firebringer wrote:because i am trying to see if you legit think that?-
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How in the world do you reach that conclusion from what I said?In post 441, Firebringer wrote:@Persivul So you don't think this is true?
BTW I checked the dragons game we were in. You didn't ask about being friends, but you did vote me D1 "for reasons."-
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To avoid interaction. I've never seen his scum game. Maybe he sucks and thinks that, while a fake restriction will draw attention to him, actually talking would be worse.In post 448, Firebringer wrote:why do you think pine as scum would fake a posting restriction again?-
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In post 475, Firebringer wrote:Grey why can't we form a town block?
Well there's that.In post 479, Firebringer wrote:i should honestly be scum on everyone reads list.-
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It was.In post 492, Firebringer wrote:I know you said my reasoning on you was "Buzzwords"
First, the evidence shows that's wrong. If I were pushing easy mislynches, people would vote along with me.but i really think your just pushing people who are easy mislynches right now
Second, why in the world would I do that as scum on D1? Do you feel a need to push easy mislynches as scum on D1?
I thought he was an easy mislynch?and as pointed out the reasoning on Pine is bad.-
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boredom mostly, it keeps me on the whole "this game isn't serious, don't take it serious"In post 494, Firebringer wrote:That was your fifth post joking about being scum. Why do you do that?
mentality that i need to maintain so i don't be an ass hat.[/quote]
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Four, and wagons at this point on D1 don't last to lynch, so your point is invalid.In post 501, Firebringer wrote:5 people are voting Pieg, so you saying its not easy is kind of funny to me.
The problem is that you don't understand my mind. You're analyzing my play as if I'm newbie scum.And yeah, Pine is easy mislynch to YOU. Not to everyone, maybe I worded that badly, but you seem to be pushing people who everyone doesn't like their posts aka Easy Mislynch, in your mind.
Again - "why in the world would I do that as scum on D1? Do you feel a need to push easy mislynches as scum on D1?"-
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Speaking of funny...there's a word for people who are easy to lynch: scummy. You're criticizing me for pushing players who appear scummy.In post 501, Firebringer wrote:kind of funny to me
You're voting me. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a hypocrite, so you apparently think that I don't really appear scummy, i.e. you don't have a solid basis for your push. NTTAWWT at this stage of the game, but it's pretty funny.-
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Not that there's anything wrong with that. People are pushed for numerous reasons, particularly in the first half of D1. Getting reactions, seeing who gets on, seeing who gets off. FB is ignoring that fact and pretending like scum!pers would just blatantly push for an early mislynch on D1. It's ridiculous.In post 505, Nosferatu wrote:2. the fuck does NTTAWWT mean-
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How can you play the game this long and think so simplistically?In post 509, Firebringer wrote:whats your scum meta pers?-
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I didn't say you were stupid. I said that your question was simplistic, and it was. "What's your scum meta" implies that the person has a single town and single scum play style. In reality, most people are more nuanced than that. I wouldn't play a cop the same as I'd play a VT for example, yet both are town.In post 513, Firebringer wrote:If you think meta is trash, don't make arguments with meta at me on why you are town/scum.
If you think none of your actions are scummy at all, argue that.
but don't entertain me with meta and then tell me I am being stupid for questioning you on it.
Could you honestly answer the questionWhat's your scum metain a way that captures the differences between all your town games and all your scum games, yet isn't ambiguous to the point of being meaningless?
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Except...I haven't pushed fire.In post 520, WhemeStar wrote:
Same, don't like his push on fire reallyIn post 497, -Grey- wrote:I could see myself lynching Persivul over Firebringer if they decide to 1v1.-
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You don't know what to make of me...yet you speak of me in the third person instead of trying to interact. I don't know what to think of fire, so I interact with him...and you criticize that. Can't say that I agree with your approach.In post 523, implosion wrote:@alz you should mention names in your posts, they're a lot harder to read/follow especially at a glance when you're just listing numbers.
I don't know what to make of persivul. His recent play is very opaque. I dislike the degree to which he's focused towards firebringer, and some of his posts towards him have felt viscerally scummy but I can't really justify why. Like 496. Just a really... idk, weird response. Not really productive, not relevant to the game, idk. And the way he talked about how he wouldn't push an easy mislynch as scum. I think he's telling the truth but it feels off. It feels like he's being too dismissive and that he's focusing his attention in fb's direction to the detriment of other directions (similar to what I criticized desperado of, but he is doing other things). I still think his early play reads gut town even taking experience into consideration (it's certainly fakeable but i think it's a little more likely not to be faked).
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