Mini 1901 - over

[farside22]

Hey all sorry I'm late to the party.
I was pretty busy this weekend.

I'll be catching up sometime today.

[farside22]

Let's lynch the scum who is sitting back with something to drink watching you have at it, (It's Wheme btw) Why do people tr me again? Not that I mind please keep doing it

I agree with this post.

So I caught up on 11 pages of shit. This is a new low right now. That's all I'll say about it. Wake me up with fragile egos, blind tunneling on lynchbait, and lame PL threats go away and people start playing the game. RVS is better than this, and you're all better players than this.

Anyway, Wheme is newbscum and needs the rope. Let's pick up tomorrow after the easy scum lynch.

Still. It sure about dreal but I agree with the rest of this.

I've literally read nothing but page one of this thread. I'll read later tonight.

Original Roll String: 1d8 (STATIC)

1 8-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Dammit.

D&D is a d20 game... could be part of your problem .

I'd talk to vonflare about that.

dreal and FB are both town following that interaction.
Elena is not.
VOTE: Elena Fisher

Tywin is town.

Why did you suggest that sharing townreads is anti-town?
VOTE: drealmerz7

Let's lynch the scum who is sitting back with something to drink watching you have at it, (It's Wheme btw) Why do people tr me again? Not that I mind please keep doing it

This was voteworthy. Wheme took a stance, which makes that statement false. I have no issues with the last two sentences.

But what you just did is much worse.

Edo is scum.

Vote: edo

Scum reads: edo, wheme
Not sure: dreal
Not enough info: Pere alban, Toogeloo, horrordude.

When I was reading dreal my biggest issue is where he tells players to vote and doesn't vote himself and the fight with fire seemed off and unnecessary.
The reason I'm not attacking that is wheme.

VOTE: Fire

Dreal why so toxic, fire may be scum tho

VOTE: Drealmerz7

policy at this poitn

I would actually be down for this

Thinking scum are attacking each other?
What newb would think that is beyond me.

[farside22]

Edo is scum.

Why did you agree with what Elena said? Why am I scum?

When I was reading dreal my biggest issue is where he tells players to vote and doesn't vote himself and the fight with fire seemed off and unnecessary.

Sorry, I don't understand this. Can you explain this please?

Thinking scum are attacking each other?
What newb would think that is beyond me.

Wheme was stating support for a policy lynch against dreal, not necessarily that he is scum. Regardless, why can't new scum think that bussing is possible?

One your scum reads look fake.
No rhyme or reason. Just throwing a name out with no substance
2. Read page one where dreal tells players to vote.
3) I didn't see that as sarcastic posting, can you explain why you think they thought that?
Bussing! That kind of fight reads as bussing?
Why are you wking the spot before they can respond?

I don't scumread edo

I'm pretty sure drealmerz is town here and will argue against that lynch

What is your read on Edo?
Why?

VOTE: Farside

Hey farside been awhile, how you doing?
What kind of party did you go to?

Also what does your role name rhyme with?

Hey fire.
This is dnd game. I remember doing vampire and we talked about joining the campaign, some gamers referred to being in the group as a party.
But that's my normal hey I'm hear and I'm late entrance.
I just felt like trivia geeking.
Can I just say clan? Idk if it matters. My hubby would hate my role in a rl dnd. I'm pretty meh about it myself.

[farside22]

Just going to remind everyone of this tidbit...

technically I'm not town though - just getting that out of the way

This needs explanation

I'm actually going to retcon that and say I'm town

Vigs are a thing typically. Unless you have nothing else to add other then possible 3rd party hunting then youll forgive me when i lol and vote you.

As for Edo I explained best I can.
I find it interesting a player names a few players doesn't explain his reads and gets ignored with no questions asked.
Is there a bias I missed in regards to edo?

[farside22]

As for Edo I explained best I can.
I find it interesting a player names a few players doesn't explain his reads and gets ignored with no questions asked.
Is there a bias I missed in regards to edo?

no, I'm totally with you hence my headhurting so hard last night

how do you feel about RC doing the same as edos? (do note that he prefers 'edos' and doesn't like 'edo' at all)

That's pretty typically RC.
Yes I realize that's not fair.
I've played a few games with edos so I am pushing him for more then he has given.

1. Please type longer posts with at least multiple sentences. I wish you guys could write paragraphs. Every bloody sentence doesn't have to be chronicled and presented as a separate post. This is the problem of your generation No synthesis, just communication.

2. I find Toogeloo and Tywin suspicious. The tone and stuff.

3. I will not present my townreads. I think it helps the scum.

4. Drealm, you have already argued with two players. Your posts and votes seem like being generated out of hurt. Am I right? If you are scumreading them coz you are angry, it'll give the game an unncessary detour, which you wouldn't want as a town, yeah?

5. Fully caught up. Nothing much substantial has happened in 14 pages. I hate such games. Just fluff. I will not replace out, but looks like I will not enjoy this.

You've been on this site for awhile. I can't imagine why 5 is a peeve and worthy of replacing out since almost 95% of the mafia games here start like this.
If it's not typical for you to experience this behavior, please link those games.

[farside22]

I find it interesting a player names a few players doesn't explain his reads and gets ignored with no questions asked.

You did the EXACT SAME THING. You listed Wheme and Edo as scum with no reasons other than for us to deduce from your quotes, and then 3 or 4 other names that needed "sorting."

I didn't say I didn't do it.
Just a small peeve when I see others do it and never get questioned.
Do you have a read on the low posters?

[farside22]

Hey fire.
This is dnd game. I remember doing vampire and we talked about joining the campaign, some gamers referred to being in the group as a party.
But that's my normal hey I'm hear and I'm late entrance.
I just felt like trivia geeking.
Can I just say clan? Idk if it matters. My hubby would hate my role in a rl dnd. I'm pretty meh about it myself.

Trivia geeking?
How does your husband hate any role in dnd? Unless it's something like monk. Monk seems boring dnd class.

I would feel better if my character came across like;



And I'm completely putting rc/dreal on ignore.
Sucking the fun out of this game is not something I'm into, thanks.

[farside22]

And I'm completely putting rc/dreal on ignore.

I might be willing to lynch both of them.

Are you town this game?

Why?
One toxic player probably will ultimately replace out.

Yup. Hopefully I die early this game.

[farside22]

I'm not lynching RC or drealmerz (this guys name is hell using autocorrect). RC can threaten all he wants, but all he can do is post. If he spams and makes it entirely unplayable, he'll get banned. The same goes for drealmerz. They'll calm down eventually, although I can't trust either to ever play the game correctly. If they're both town (which I think they are), then scum have it pretty easy with such a loud distraction.

If we are both town why is absolutely no one in the game willing to vote either of us? Where is the scum jumping at the wagon to blame me for it?

Typically you see a few votes to see scum jump on board.
Currently players are in the chill the fuck out category.

[farside22]

I am not being toxic. I am attempting to lynch someone. You don't see me being extremely rude towards Firebringer for absolutely nothing

From my pov, I sort of see it like dreal attacking fire for reasons that look like a history/issue with fire. You think dreal is faking but you also are saying things that are pretty unnecessary.

Ebwop: idk I think it's odd more then anything.

[farside22]

Feeling like crap
Please don't explode the thread while I'm gone.

[farside22]

claim at L-1 like any other role, or if you get copped and someone says they have a guilty on you, then you claim that you are a miller is why

THEN people work on figuring out if you are lying or not, and by then you have more content given to allow for better sorting

well that's because town plays like shit around here

This is horrible, horrible logic.
I can't even count the number of times scum tried claiming that shit after being caught.

Anyways, moving on.
Toolog moved to town category.
I don't feel as strongly about wheme as I used to, the ease of there post and lack of concern would come from a more experienced type scum player.
I'm flip flopping on Elena.
Vote and unvote for seeming unknown reasons raises my eye brow. Also i see the let me be the mediator but do little else thing before.
Horrordude is on my leaning scum read for weird reason.
Alban seems more focus on those attacking him then scum hunting.
Peregrine reminds me a of scum here.
The aggression believe it or not is more scum tendency then town for peregrine.
VOTE: peregrine

[farside22]

This is horrible, horrible logic.
I can't even count the number of times scum tried claiming that shit after being caught.

why is it horrible logic? that is how you play the game, and then you weigh which side you believe and 1 tries to sell the story if they are lying and the other sticks to the truth he knows, and you decide as a group, that's fun, that's mafia

The same can be said for a player claiming from the start.
The difference, scum will manipulate the situation doing it your way, and town will always be a suspect and lynched regardless doing it your way.
Just my 2 cents.

[farside22]

The aggression believe it or not is more scum tendency then town for peregrine.

I don't believe it.

The aggression believe it or not is more scum tendency then town for peregrine.

I don't believe it.

In every game I've played, people SR aggression on this site over those doing absolutely nothing. I've never understood why. It's a fallacy in logic and basic gameplay imo. There are plenty of aggressive scum, but there are even more lurker scum who do absolutely nothing and try to slide by everyday not being noticed. People don't care and don't pay attention to it, but it's a constant in almost every single game on this site, from newbie to large theme games. People have weird ways of reading players, because it's usually wrong, but they never learn from it.

It depends on the player.
Some players lurk regardless of alignment. Some are aggressive regardless of alignment.
Mostly it's his subtext with aggression.
Let me get to my computer to explain better.

[farside22]

Can we not have the mini temper tantrums.

[farside22]

The hubby didn't give up the computer to me so you get my phone post that will probably look bad.

What bugs me with Pere is first the weak reason to wagon hop.

Whoa, 4 pages in and already name-fighting.

Just going to vote the biggest wagon.....

Vote: WhemeStar

Totally hilarious to me that the first post I found scummy was his (80).

I don't recall Pere ever trying to find a reason to vote someone, especially the bigger post which reads more like a mountain out of a mole hill.

And I'm completely putting rc/dreal on ignore.

I might be willing to lynch both of them.

Are you town this game?

Whoa, 4 pages in and already name-fighting.

Just going to vote the biggest wagon.....

Vote: WhemeStar

Totally hilarious to me that the first post I found scummy was his (80).

One offhanded comment with no contribution

I voted.
I voted Wheme.
You're pissed about that.
That's awesome.

Literally just votes the biggest wagon and says it

Yes.
Literally.

Calls a post scummy without saying why

Questions dreal, but sheeps his vote, but still says fire might be scum. Built a fence just to have a place to sit.

And I'm completely putting rc/dreal on ignore.

I might be willing to lynch both of them.

Are you town this game?

And I'm proud I used post preview to make sure the quotes came out ok.

Anyways peregrine isn't a confident type player when it comes to scum hunting.

[farside22]

RC, want to work with me today, and ill be much more open to working with you tomorrow?
I am not going to lynch dreal today.

I think thats bad, but I want to move forward with the game.

I endorse this product and/or service.

I'd agree with the PeregrinV assessments that people like farside brought up (they're town too), but I'm inherently suspicious of any large D1 wagons. They're usually wrong.

Thing is... RC unvoting an L1 player they call scum means something important. If PeregrinV flips town, it means RC wanted off the wagon to not get shit for the inevitable 'scum pushed PeregrinV' argument. That's a given, and he knows that him unvoting gives the excuse to say 'not me, I unvoted him, you all are the real scum!' There's also the chance that if PeregrinV flips scum, RC was his buddy hoping to derail his fake early bus (which he'd do for TCred, but not to actually have the lynch go through today). He'd use the info down the line to say he was the first to call PeregrinV scum, even though he didn't push it through to the lynch.

Both options lead me to look at RC as possible scum here. Toogeloo is also an option, and both of these players hoping to push FB is just fake. FB isn't causing drama and that's obvious. These are manufactured reads/narratives that aren't actually true. FB isn't scum here folks. Not in my opinion.

So I'm okay with flipping PeregrinV to get a better read on RC, but the optimal play is actually to flip RC himself. There's enough connections and vote patterns to deduce multiple things from his flip, and frankly, I think he will flip scum.

Well hello Mr. Fearmonger.
How are you with you woven tale and theory?
Welcome to being scum read.

[farside22]

Hello farside. I take it you're new around here. Let me catch you up to speed. My 'fear mongering' as you call me speaking what scum do and why is almost always correct. Literally, my reads are usually right. because instead of being useless and saying 'their tone that I can't hear in written words sounds off when I read it in my head' or 'this is a scummy post, because idk wtf I'm talking about' or 'I'm so lost, let's just sheep the largest wagon that's clearly not on scum because scum don't bus D1.' See, I actually know how to play.

RC is scum, and farside ignoring my post to call it fear mongering is also a scum tactic. That's called discrediting the player rather than addressing the post or anything in it. Farside, did you just see what I did? I EXPLAINED why I now SR you. You say fear mongering as if that means absolutely anything in this game. Wtf is fear mongering when the point is to catch scum? Scum do things constantly, and it's not difficult to see what those things are if you have any experience playing.

Let me walk you through this, since I think you're still just bad town: explain why you said fear mongering, explain what was scummy about anything I said, and explain why you dislike me going after RC here? This is obvious to me. Him unvoting someone he calls scum is NEVER a town move. Never. Ever. It's so far outside of being town, that only scum would defend it. Watch and see.

As for you RC: you're deflecting. Stop. Answer my questions. I don't care what you do in other games. I care about this one. It means you're scum, and I will get you lynched for it, even if I have to drag plenty of clueless town with me into the mud to do it. Ive given you multiple chances to answer my question, which is a VERY simple one, but you've refused. It's plain as day that you aren't town.

VOTE: RadiamCowbells

I stopped reading after you accused me of being new
Let me embrace that for a moment here.

*wipes tears away*

I'm going to act like your new for a second here.
Do you know on average how dumb a player can be around here.
I don't mean it like a nasty thing but in a seriousness I have seen bad/dumb town moments that make zero fucking sense as for as thinking goes, compared to scum who worry more about how they are perceived.

Here's my issue with your stance.
Either way you put rc as scum for something that is pretty NAI around here and made a theory more then fact.
Theory doesn't cut it for me.
You can call me scum or bad town, or whatever floats your boat but I'll tell anyone and everyone that your storytelling a case and call you scum for doing so.

The fact that your rather lynch him over Pere is more telling.

[farside22]

You can call me scum or bad town, or whatever floats your boat but I'll tell anyone and everyone that your storytelling a case and call you scum for doing so.

The fact that your rather lynch him over Pere is more telling.

The fact you want to lynch me tells ME a lot.

Normally you take the time to suss me out (for whatever reason).

This time you haven't, and your attacking people when they leave my wagon.

You don't typically invite conversations.
I'm pretty sure you know I typically attack first or ask questions depending on what's going on in the game.
How would you say voting the biggest wagon isn't just hopping onto a wagon?
There is no difference.
634 is what I'm talking about.
You seem different that comes off more scummy then town

[farside22]

Also to peregrine the post I'm saying read as a mountain was this: viewtopic.php?p=9080433#p9080433
I do recognize your responding to rc. You put a lot on one read, which again isn't what I'm used to with you.

[farside22]

I had a weird thought.
Peregrine: whom besides wheme are you scum reading
Why?

[farside22]

Not that kind of aggression necessarily - I've never seen you take initiative or get defensive as town

VOTE: Toogeloo
He has not been anything close to impressive I haven't liked his play and its miller so bonus for me

Do you think Wheme is bussing me (since last I recall he was a big scum read of yours too)? What do you think of Firebringer's noise posts that also constitute practically nothing to the game? What do you think of PV who hasn't really flinched at being at L-1?

There's probably no way I'm voting for RC or dreal today unless it's me or one of them.

My current scum leans are...

PV (

strong

)

- This seems like his typical scum play of hand waving suspicion and riding it out waiting for a momentum shift.

Firebringer (

semi-strong

)

- high post count noise that amounts to very little content.

Tywin (

semi-strong

)

- Fear mongering and fabricated cases.

Dunnstral (

semi-weak

)

- mostly just due to lurking with content being fairly weak.

Wheme (

semi-weak

)

- mostly just due to lurking with content being fairly weak. (

inb4omgus

)

Edo (

weak

)

- weak content thus far.

horrordude (

weak

)

- weak content thus far.

Our main issue currently is too many vanity wagons with no active pushing on those singular voters. Abandon the crusade if it's not going anywhere and compromise elsewhere, please.

Someone looks to be following me.
I need a shower I feel dirty.

Toogeloo: how is pv hand waving things away?

unvote

[farside22]

On a side note peregrine has scared me this game.
I fear hell froze or pod people are real.

[farside22]

Also to peregrine the post I'm saying read as a mountain was this: viewtopic.php?p=9080433#p9080433
I do recognize your responding to rc. You put a lot on one read, which again isn't what I'm used to with you.

Nah, it was me pointing out that Radiant reciting the facts of the game does not make a case, despite him trying to phrase it as one.

I haven't presented any reads yet, which read are you talking about?

The only read I'm aware of is wheme.

Someone looks to be following me.
I need a shower I feel dirty.

Are you agreeing with my reads and hate that you are?

Only that I said pretty much the same wording about twy before you.
You expect me to believe you didn't read my post.

[farside22]

Easter plans this weekend.
Won't be available till Monday

[farside22]

like, can't we just speedlynch RC already and get the useless slot out of the game please?????

I'd lynch you over rc.
At least rc is explaining things, you just read as complaining about rc.

[farside22]

Hey I had some internet issues.
I'm back and will try to catch up today

[farside22]

I'm so sorry I had some to issues beyond my control.

mod: please replace me.

Hopefully things will get better so I can return to ms