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lololIn post 390, Robbnva wrote:
I don't know you are town.In post 388, gerryoat wrote:even if he is mafia, why not use him to heal people who get poisoned that are town for now?
if i was mafia with vax. wouldnt i just tell him in mafia chat? or if we dont have day talk, make a code at night that if i'm poisoned i post and he can see?-
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why in the hell would there be a town poisoner? is that like a common thing on this site? it's only a mafia role on Epicmafia.In post 401, Vaxkiller wrote:
No because we could have a town role poisoning people. It sounds a little one sided for scum to have 2 killing roles IMO. So I'll cure you if thats waht the consensus wants.In post 372, gerryoat wrote:bI'm literally CONFIRMED TOWN TO YOU. If i was scum, I'd let you get lynched. how dare you say you need to decide if im town or scum-
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i thought we had a bromance thing going on, im hurtIn post 432, Wisdom wrote:let gerry die and lynch desp is my preferred course of actions-
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if you think about the roles we've had so far, it's likely there is a poisoner mafia. we've had strong roles, and likely more strong roles yet to be revealed.In post 424, Vaxkiller wrote:If the scum poisoned someone, the likely would not have known there was a poison doc.. (i mean maybe thye would have,but unlikely)-
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I don't get how you guys thinking letting me die solves anything. you'll be at the same situation tomorrow with even numbers and less town. because someone else will be poisoned and Vax will likely die. I think Vax is town, i don't buy a 3rd party. Mafia likely has a kill and a poisoner. Vax healing me today proves that he is what he says he is, and imo clears him. Because I don't think we have a 3rd party and I don't think we'd have a poison doc that's mafia.-
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Vax could very likely be poisoner, and his only way of avoiding a lynch was saying he was the healing doc of poisoner. Which is why we need to see if he's really a doc. Like I said, if we don't solve this now, we will be in a bad situation tomorrow and likely worse cause if vax is town mafia will be for sure getting a kill and a delayed kill from now on with vax likely dead tomorrow.-
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I was on VLA all of day 1, and i'm obviously trying more now since you have seen my recent posts, why not try to engage me instead of just trying to say to let me die. What is the reasoning for thinking there is a 3rd party. wouldn't that be a very weak 3rd party for it just to be a poisoner (especially when there is a DAY doc to save it?In post 440, Backhand wrote:Gerry hasn't done enough to warrant saving-
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this is a good question btw. Vax does it say you can? (though since you're day, i'm guessing you have to be able to)In post 429, Wisdom wrote:
are you sure you can heal someone after being poisoned? If i made a poison doc id make him prevent the poisoning, not heal itIn post 406, Vaxkiller wrote:Should I heal gerryoat? (@wisdom)-
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i already said thisIn post 446, Chickadee wrote:Interesting theory, don't know if this is too crazy or not. Vax is actually a 3rd party poisoner with a poison doc given as fake claim?-
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Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role, so my thought is that poisoner has to be mafia. meaning since I know I'm town, and I think that posioner and poison doc wouldn't be the same alignment, I wouldn't claim poisoned if I was teamed with him, I would code it. And from his point of view, poisoner could only be mafia, meaning that i would have to be town.-
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Then xplain to me the balance aspect. Why would a 3rd party be doc. or why would a 3rd party be poisoner, when there is a poisoner DAY doc. no one has explained this to me at allIn post 454, Wisdom wrote:
mafia dont have two killsIn post 437, gerryoat wrote:Mafia likely has a kill and a poisoner.
One of the two is 3p-
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How dumb would it be for me as 3rd party to not lynch the poisoner doc when everyone was voting him, if i was poisoner. This is bad logic and shading, A50 is probably mafia, i dont see how town can come up with this logic. Because if i was 3rd party I would want the poisoner doc dead, and 2. i would poison someone and not just fake it, since it would be my only way of killing. anyone town would think of those scenariosIn post 458, Almost50 wrote:
Hold on right there! What basis do you have for not thinking we have a 3rd party? Because the way you're going about it is suddenly making me thing YOU are 3P the poisoner and your whole "I've got the flu" is a gambit to clear yourself.In post 437, gerryoat wrote:Because I don't think we have a 3rd party
So, is it in your Role PM? What is your win con? Are you -say- a Survivor?
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then if you think this, you think I'm scum with vax? that wouldnt make any sense at all for the points that i brought up earlierIn post 469, Wisdom wrote:i suppose scum poison doc is possible-
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Hm, that's a good point. I'm starting to think you're town.In post 471, Robbnva wrote:
This is why mafia poison doc makes sense. Mafia poison doc could let townies poisoned die. I definitely don'tIn post 442, gerryoat wrote:I don't see how a 3rd party getting a poisoner role is fair at all to them, because they could be killed by mafia or lynched by town and they only get a delayed kill. which could be stopped by a day doctor at any time
Think the poisoner is mafia cause no mafia worth anything would target you. Town poisoner or 3rd party probably would though-
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Well yes, but i've never encountered a town or 3rd party poisoner on this site, and even the wiki says anti-town so i assume mafia.In post 472, Robbnva wrote:
We aren't on EM honey and you've been here long enough to know things aren't the same.In post 452, gerryoat wrote:Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role-
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this is a good point, actually. Which is why I want him to prove that he's doc. if I die, and he doesnt die tomorrow then we are gonna be in the same positionIn post 474, iDanyboy wrote:I think Vax is scum because he was sure there couldn't be a dayvig due to his role, but I don't understand how he came to this conclusion.-
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Ah, okay. That makes a little more sense. you woulda had to claim regardless i guess.In post 477, Vaxkiller wrote:
Sooo... the poisoner is not coming forward so I'm assuming they are scum (or 3rd party) and I think its reasonable to give gerryoat a small town read on that.In post 464, Almost50 wrote:
Fine. HE can do that to confirm himself, but then we you are put today's lynch. Would that be fine by you??In post 448, gerryoat wrote:Him healing me proves that he is poison doc, and even if 3rd party poisons me again in your scenario, at least he'll be confirmed town tomorrow if he doesnt die.
Edit: *In my previous post; I obviously meany POISON, not Posidon Doctor!
So a little on how my role works: I have to give the antidote in the thread, so it was going to come out anyway, and yes I can cure after you get sick.-
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Look at this logic.
Since you guys insist that there is a 3rd party, I'll use this kinda logic as to why I have to be town.
1. I can only be one of Mafia or 3rd party from the view of people who think i'm not town. I can only be one. So that means if we lynch the 3rd party and they aren't poisoner, then I'm clear. I say this because as Vax said, poisoner isn't outing at all (meaning they are likely mafia or 3rd party)
2. Poisoner wanted to poison someone who mafia wouldn't kill in the event they are 3rd party. So they knew that I wouldn't be killed because i was the hammer on Vecna, and I would claim to be sick, and people would likely want me to die anyway, so they would still get a regular lynch off. So due to this logic, I would be town because mafia left me alive as a easy lynch later.-
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this is good logic, and I'm very weary on backhand already.In post 481, iDanyboy wrote:Same as Rob, Poisoner is 3rd party, Vax could be Scum Poison Doctor. Gerry could be either alignment. Why did that would make you vote me?
Your point about letting the poisoner continuing target scummy players and not Docing them makes me think your the Poisoner, since Town wouldn't think the poisoner would help them.-
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So you're telling me that you won't explain?In post 515, Wisdom wrote:
give me the full setup and i willIn post 483, gerryoat wrote:Then xplain to me the balance aspect.
Until then, no balance excuses-
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I already explined why it's unlikely I can be scum from your point of view. Why didn't you reply to anything I was saying? Explain my thought process from yesterday end of day and going into today and the beginning of today if i'm scum?In post 519, Desperado wrote:moz might be scum but i cant figure out if that means gerry and vax are both town or not. clearing gerry because scum "wouldn't fake that shit" when he could easily just be scum who got poisoned and then arguing that third parties aren't likely in minis when that's pretty obviously wrong is not a logical way to process what's happening right now-
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pretty sure they have to go to a balance review before being approved.In post 522, Robbnva wrote:
There is no guarantee this game is balanced. I don't even think they are required to be.In post 515, Wisdom wrote:
give me the full setup and i willIn post 483, gerryoat wrote:Then xplain to me the balance aspect.
Until then, no balance excuses-
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already explained why A50 is scum, reread.In post 533, mozamis wrote:
so you are saying Gerry is scum?In post 421, Almost50 wrote:and would actually recommend gerry NOT be cured/healed.
then why arent you voting for him.
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in what way have I dispelled? Also, this is flawed logic. you're saying as scum we would try to DISPEL a possibility of a 3rd party?? Why as scum would we not want to confuse town more, and give more possibilities instead of taking them away. I don't like your train of thought hereIn post 534, Desperado wrote:right now a danny/moz/gerry team is looking pretty good to me. you and gerry are both going out of your way to dispel the notion of a 3p and it doesnt make sense from a town perspective.-
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hahahahaha you're implying that you can read me. Link me one game where you've read me correctly. People try and use dumb meta on me, and are always wrong.In post 543, mozamis wrote:
this does worry me a bit.]In post 439, gerryoat wrote:cause now I actually have to try lol
town gerry doesnt really try/ is borderline troll.
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How do you know I never try? Because I try all the time, just because you've never seen me try as town, doesn't mean i don't.In post 547, mozamis wrote:it is odd how gerry - who NEVER tries - seems desperate to survive now.-
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I'm town. and since there are 11 ppl left, then there will be 10 after i die, 9 after lynch, 8 after kill. Meaning since I'm town, and if we mislynch, there is only 4 town against 4 non town (assuming mafia doesnt ill 3rd party)In post 557, Backhand wrote:
Yeah, townies dying is bad but we don't know gerry is town. The higher percentage of kills that aren't done by Mafia is good for us. Anyway, its vax's call at the end of the day, we've made our points.In post 555, mozamis wrote:@ Bachand - all townies that die are bad for us. Last game i was in , there was a twn vig who kep killing town. we loved it as scum...
Yeah, if the doc is unlimted, then he should save gerry.
that post from you looks town.
I'd rather lynch dany or desp but I also agree with you on chick--also LUV was a weird kill and they know each other, she might have been worried about him reading her? Slight evidence against her, worth remembering.-
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Explain how they will be off?In post 581, Robbnva wrote:
these numbers will be off some so we really need to decide what to do with you and also decide right on the lynch.In post 579, gerryoat wrote:I'm town. and since there are 11 ppl left, then there will be 10 after i die, 9 after lynch, 8 after kill. Meaning since I'm town, and if we mislynch, there is only 4 town against 4 non town (assuming mafia doesnt ill 3rd party)
Who are your top 3 scum and why please
And I already explained why A50 is scum. Backhand I'm very weary of for posts that i've already quoted. that's all for now. Those are my 2 biggest SRs at the moment.-
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why?In post 589, Chickadee wrote:Nah, A50 is town.-
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whhy do you TR A50??In post 599, Chickadee wrote:I think everyone scum reading A50 is reaching. Robb, you just don't like that he's being active and trying to get out in front of things. I think he's doing a great job of trying to get activity going. And I don't think his reads are that odd.
What I do think is odd is Moza's insistence on me listing my reads. And doing so by quoting parts of posts where I list my reads. He did the same thing to A50. I think Moza is showing some of the same "leader" qualities you're not liking in A50. Thoughts?-
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Okay, again I'll explain why your logic is flawed and has to come from mafiaIn post 604, Almost50 wrote:
Don't try to get "too smart" with me, gerry. We both know you could not have poisoned someone and then come to claim YOU were poisoned the very next day. The target will CC and you would be caught on the spot.In post 484, gerryoat wrote:How dumb would it be for me as 3rd party to not lynch the poisoner doc when everyone was voting him, if i was poisoner. This is bad logic and shading, A50 is probably mafia, i dont see how town can come up with this logic. Because if i was 3rd party I would want the poisoner doc dead, and 2. i would poison someone and not just fake it, since it would be my only way of killing. anyone town would think of those scenarios
What you did is hold off your shot, come to fake you got poisoned to OUT the Poison Doc (and YOU knew there was one because Vecna's flip said he only protected against gunshots).
When Vax outed and cured you, he gets poisoned/shot the next night and you would be totally excluded from suspicion of being precisely the Poisoner.
Vax only had TWO votes at the start of today. He was wagoned yesterday, yes, but then you didn't know he was the Poison Doctor, did you? DID YOU?
1.) Why would I poison someone and then claim poisoned? That literally is the worst logic I've seen on this site.
2.) Why would I claim poisoned to out the poison doc, when you know, i could... POISON someone else and have THEM out the poisoned doc???
3.) Vax already claimed healer yesterday. So, if I knew there was a poisoner, I would have assumed that he could have either been A.) mafia or B.) poison doc. Thus which is why he shoulda been the poison target if Poisoner was smart yesterday night.
4.) Your last point is redundant and obviously flawed. You are so obvious mafia here that I am shocked that people aren't voting you more. I literally just destroyed this weak argument that you had twice in a row.
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