Mini 1927: Breaking Bad Mafia - Game Over

[gerryoat]

Interesting theory, don't know if this is too crazy or not. Vax is actually a 3rd party poisoner with a poison doc given as fake claim?

i already said this

[Chickadee]

Interesting theory, don't know if this is too crazy or not. Vax is actually a 3rd party poisoner with a poison doc given as fake claim?

i already said this

When I post I don't read the catch up posts that happen while I'm posting.

[gerryoat]

Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role, so my thought is that poisoner has to be mafia. meaning since I know I'm town, and I think that posioner and poison doc wouldn't be the same alignment, I wouldn't claim poisoned if I was teamed with him, I would code it. And from his point of view, poisoner could only be mafia, meaning that i would have to be town.

[Chickadee]

Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role, so my thought is that poisoner has to be mafia. meaning since I know I'm town, and I think that posioner and poison doc wouldn't be the same alignment, I wouldn't claim poisoned if I was teamed with him, I would code it. And from his point of view, poisoner could only be mafia, meaning that i would have to be town.

That makes sense. However, it doesn't have to play out that way here. But you get that now, so I don't really care to bash this point over the head.

[Wisdom]

Mafia likely has a kill and a poisoner.

mafia dont have two kills
One of the two is 3p

[Wisdom]

Vax could very likely be poisoner, and his only way of avoiding a lynch was saying he was the healing doc of poisoner. Which is why we need to see if he's really a doc. Like I said, if we don't solve this now, we will be in a bad situation tomorrow and likely worse cause if vax is town mafia will be for sure getting a kill and a delayed kill from now on with vax likely dead tomorrow.

nah
Poisoner doesnt claim doc at dayvig

[Persivul]

Vote Count 2.2

Vaxkiller (1) - Robbnva
iDanyBoy (1) - Desperado
Desperado (1) - Wisdom

Not voting (8) - Vaxkiller, Chickadee, Backhand, iDanyBoy, gerryoat, Edosurist, Almost50, mozamis

With 11 players it's 6 votes to lynch

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2017-08-03 10:00:00)

Mod Notes:

None

[Almost50]

let gerry die and lynch desp is my preferred course of actions

I don't want to lynch Desp today, but at least we agree on gerry.

[Almost50]

Because I don't think we have a 3rd party

Hold on right there! What basis do you have for not thinking we have a 3rd party? Because the way you're going about it is suddenly making me thing YOU are 3P the poisoner and your whole "I've got the flu" is a gambit to clear yourself.

So, is it in your Role PM? What is your win con? Are you -say- a Survivor?

[Almost50]

There being three factions very much fits Breaking Bad thematically.

Wait! Do you mean it could be 9-2-2?

[Wisdom]

gerry reads poisoned mafia whos trying to be healed
Let him die

[Wisdom]

vax doesnt need to heal in order to confirm, i believe him
Poisoner doesnt claim doc when dayvigged

[Almost50]

wouldn't that be a very weak 3rd party for it just to be a poisoner (especially when there is a DAY doc to save it?

No it wouldn't because as soon as Vax claimed he put a big red mark on his back to be POISONED himself.

It would've been MUCH better if we didn't force Vax to claim. It would have also been ideal for him to cure you because you would claim you got poisoned and he would cure you subtly. However, what happened is he claimed first THEN you said you got poisoned. You had wanted to lynch him still until you "read your PM", which is also strange because I believe Percy sent us a mass PM declaring the day had started with a link to the day opening post, so he must've sent you a separate PM telling you you got poisoned. Are you telling me you saw the one announcing the day had satrted and jumped right in to post here without reading the other note?

[Almost50]

I think you're thinking too much into flavor. But, I guess you bring up a decent point in that. Regardless, why did you ignore my scenario? What if vax is actually poisoner and his only way to survive was to claim poison doc.

If that was the case then there is no Posidon Doctor (which could be true) because Vecna could only protect from gunshots and there has been no CC to Vax, but that doesn't solve the problem of you being scummy as hell.

Tomorrow either Vax himself will be poisoned someone or someone else will. It will be suspicious as hell if someone else was poisoned and not Vax, but then we can test his claim by making him cure the victim. Curing you though isn't ideal because the way you're playing you'd have to go sooner than later, and we do have the chance to make that happen. Nothing personal (I think you know that) but you are much scummier here than you were both Inception and Royal Rumble (OK. We all were scums in RR so that doesn't count, but still..)

[Almost50]

Him healing me proves that he is poison doc, and even if 3rd party poisons me again in your scenario, at least he'll be confirmed town tomorrow if he doesnt die.

Fine. HE can do that to confirm himself, but then we you are put today's lynch. Would that be fine by you??

Edit: *In my previous post; I obviously meany POISON, not Posidon Doctor!

[Almost50]

@Wisdom: I'm about to hit the hay, so take your time reevaluating your reads. I want us to work together.

I think we both can agree your Town (well, you know better than I, but I do have a TR on you). Now let's see.. we agree on Vax likely Town. We agree on gerry likely Scum. We disagree on Desperado. Now what reads do you have on the other 7 slots (including mine). I noticed when Vax suggested I must be Town for "being bold" you remarked I was also bold as Scum (which is true, btw) so I'm not sure if it was just a remark or if you were expressing a scum lean or uncertainty.

[Wisdom]

uncertain, but more leaning town than not

[Wisdom]

other slots; robb, backhand, mozamis likely town
danny, chick dunno

[Robbnva]

Pretty sure there is no town poisoner.

Then you have no case against Vax.

Why are you not considering mafia poison doc?

Town having 2 docs is less likely imo.

Town having one and mafia having one makes more sense, especially considering the "good guy" in the show poisoned a "bad guy".

Im pretty sure I explained this already.

[Wisdom]

i suppose scum poison doc is possible

[Robbnva]

I don't think we'd have a poison doc that's mafia.

Why not? Why would town have 2 doctors and mafia probably having none with multiple killing roles ?

[Robbnva]

I don't see how a 3rd party getting a poisoner role is fair at all to them, because they could be killed by mafia or lynched by town and they only get a delayed kill. which could be stopped by a day doctor at any time

This is why mafia poison doc makes sense. Mafia poison doc could let townies poisoned die. I definitely don't
Think the poisoner is mafia cause no mafia worth anything would target you. Town poisoner or 3rd party probably would though

[Robbnva]

Also when I said it cleared me, you have to understand that on Epicmafia Poisoner is a mafia only role

We aren't on EM honey and you've been here long enough to know things aren't the same.

[Wisdom]

good point
gerry isnt a mafia target

[iDanyboy]

Wisdom's unvote came after a suspicious revote by Danny. I sense that Wis wanted the Vecna lynch until he saw Danny sneaking back to the wagon.

Now the unvote and revote by Danny is scummy as hell. Why did you unvote in the first place? What changed your mind back?? You wanted someone else to state the obvious so you'd have no blood on your hands?? Or are you repositioning yourself on the lynch wagon?

VOTE: iDanyBoy

I didn't sneak onto the wagon the only reason I got off was because he claimed dayvig when nothing happened it made sense for me too put my vote on because of his play. If anyone didn't want to get blood on there hands it's you.

i voted him because he had the scummiest reaction to what just happened

i thought i had made that pretty clear

You haven't. Why did you vote me over Uzy who came out of nowhere and voted Vecna or why not Gerry?

I think Vax is scum because he was sure there couldn't be a dayvig due to his role, but I don't understand how he came to this conclusion.
I town-read Rob, Wisdom and Chick.
I have a slight town-read on Desp, his questioning on Wisdom/Rob seems like it's coming from town.
I have scum lean on A50 for his jump off of the Vecna wagon.