Mini 1974: Pokemon Sapphire Mafia [Game over]
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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It was related to Cheet's postIn post 83, Not_Mafia wrote:That's not why you're being scumreadBack to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Gut feeling.In post 84, Wisdom wrote:what makes luv caught scum, kaede?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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You know what, whatever, if Wisdom decided to devolve back to the days of him tunneling town me, im not even gonna bother anymore because he's certain to just continue tunneling me until i end up replacing out of frustration, which is a thing i dont want to do ever again.
(And yes this is me saying that Wis is probably town)Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Gut feeling.In post 88, Wisdom wrote:why am i not scum "tunneling" you?
Plus I doubt scum you would tunnel me anyways because you know how I react when tunneled and that would be bad for whatever scum team you'd have.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Scum, NopeIn post 186, LaserGuy wrote:What is your read of LUV now? Do you have more than a gut read at this point?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I endorse this product and/or service.In post 204, Cheetory6 wrote:We could wagon Kaede so we can talk about wagoning KaedeBack to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Damn, this makes me want to join, but the wagon is on myself so I kinda cant.In post 205, Cheetory6 wrote:Whoever joins the Cheetory6 certified wagon will get to join an MS.Paint choo choo train!
Weeee!Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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So let's talk about that buzzword called "Opportunism" shall we?
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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In post 219, Kokichi Oma wrote:I can see Kaede being scum here.
????In post 232, Kokichi Oma wrote:Hi Smocaine. Why do you think Kaede is scum?Back to my old main for now
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In post 236, Kokichi Oma wrote:Mine has to do with meta, so because he doesn't have the same meta as I have, I want to see why he thinks Kaede is scum.
Now see, this is where i call BSIn post 236, Kokichi Oma wrote:Mine has to do with meta
VOTE: KokichiBack to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Because Wisdom stopping the tunnel so easily on me is weird, I found it weird albeit im relieved that I dont need to spend energy arguing with him for 100 pages until I end up hyper frustrated enough to replace out, I know, He knows, this is what eventually will happen we both have experienced it in several games. But Aero doesnt have that kind of knowledge, and I have an easy time following his thought process so I dont find it odd for him to suspect Wisdom, and so I think he's more than likely town.In post 246, Luca Blight wrote:I still don't understand what about Aero's prodding of Wisdom makes him Town?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I've never been the leader type of player, so I've never really cared whether others follow me or not, but LUV is being so obvscum in my eyes and is like everyone else is just being blind and I got mad.In post 252, Luca Blight wrote:I was asking why you never even acknowledged a case made against you.
And as I said, I don't buy the whole 'gut' thing to justify a clear scumread. How can you expect others to follow you onto the wagon when you can't even explain your read?
As for the case on me, if that's a case, then that's a pretty lame excuse for a case. I read it as "She can't explain a read so she says gut, ergo she's scum"
So... do scum never have explanations for their reads? do town always have explanation for their reads?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I know im not scum, if you supposedly have meta, then you saying that im scum by meta is BS.In post 255, Kokichi Oma wrote:How come? You didn't even ask about the meta. Why do you automatically assume it's BS?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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NAIIn post 267, LaserGuy wrote:
Is there a follow-up to this? I'm assuming you have played with him before. What do you think of NM's play so far?In post 228, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Have you played with NM before?
I havent played THAT many games with him, but from what I know of his meta, this is his usual play, dont think i've seen scum him yet, but people have told me that they are identical and he's impossible to read.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I wonder whose fault that was.In post 290, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm still grieving for the loss of the LUV wagon
But I currently scumread Kokichi harder than Creature whom I scumread harder than LUV.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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I think my opening here matches my typical NAI play.In post 323, Cheetory6 wrote:
Do you think your opening here matches your typical town play?In post 257, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I know im not scum, if you supposedly have meta, then you saying that im scum by meta is BS.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Dunno, I generally dont pay attention to what I do, don't do in every single game based on alignment, the only thing I know is that when im scum I lose motivation to play over time due to the fact that I hate being scum. Anything else im not really aware of as I try to do the same thing every game regardless.In post 325, Cheetory6 wrote:There were a lot of people who thought your opening here was really stiff/stilted [myself included].
You don't think someone with experience with your meta could think that based on your early-game approach?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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That would be assuming that he has enough meta on me to make that sort of assesment.
Unless you think this is enough meta:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=73745
But my scumread on him is beyond him misreading my meta.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Basically just like I called LUV's vote opportunist, Kokichi did the exact thing, without actually voting me (unless i forgot) but subtly testing the waters by stating he scumreads me when people were scumreading me and flipping his read after I obvtown'd.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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A town trying to sort would engage me, not sitting on the sidelines, methinks.In post 332, Cheetory6 wrote:Seems like he was just scumreading Luca more, hence he wasn't voting you.
Can you go into more detail about why you think it's more likely he's scum fishing for options vs town trying to sort?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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nahIn post 399, Luca Blight wrote:Anyone up for a Not_Mafia wagon?Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Something like this?In post 426, Not_Mafia wrote:Someone threaten to hammer
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Because i dont have personal experience with his scum meta, but they are literally like day and night if Biochem's any indication.In post 436, Luca Blight wrote:Explain the other 5% to me.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Speaking of "having valid reasons" this is the first time I've ever seen NM be this talkative (outside of his alt), generally I never see him having reasons valid or not for most things.In post 480, Luca Blight wrote:I found it scummy regardless of Creature's flip as I mentioned before. The fact Creature flipped scum only cements my read on Not_Mafia.
The guy was the most wagon-happy player in the game until the Creature wagon came up, and had no valid reason for his sudden change in behaviour.
The wagon-happy thing seems more to be just NM being NM.
Also to answer cheet's question, im not seeing it, it could be, maybe, im not good at picking up that kinda stuff.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Yes:In post 486, Luca Blight wrote:
And any response to this?In post 471, Luca Blight wrote:
I'm wondering why it took Kaede so long to join the wagon when she was so sure this was Creature's scum game.In post 434, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I'll just stop derping around, Cheet is right this is 95% Creature's scum game.
VOTE: CreatureIn post 405, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Maybe if Cheet asks me nicely.
I have no intention of cooperating with someone that tried to say my gut reads were scummy.In post 408, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I've decided im not gonna vote creature out of spite.In post 434, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I'll just stop derping around, Cheet is right this is 95% Creature's scum game.
VOTE: CreatureBack to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Yeah:In post 490, Luca Blight wrote:Kaede, I'm aware all that tomfoolery occurred, but you still could have voted Creature before I asked you to (when you refused to wagon Not-Mafia).
Given you were 95% sure Creature was scum your behaviour makes little sense to me there. I was less sure of him being scum as he seemed like lynch-bait to me, but if I was that sure I would be too excited to keep off the wagon for sake of a bit of banter.
Afterwards Kokichi improved, my vote would have defaulted to Creature, back then I didnt have that big of a SR on him then, it went bigger after his reaction to the L-1 and cheet pointing out his lack of scumreads (Back in that one game with him, he was fairly sure the person pushing meta on him was scum even tho they werent), so i declared an intent and then decided to just go "screw waiting, i'll just hammer he had his chance"In post 322, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
I wonder whose fault that was.In post 290, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm still grieving for the loss of the LUV wagon
But I currently scumread Kokichi harder than Creature whom I scumread harder than LUV.Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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In post 362, Kokichi Oma wrote:Just didn't lack the passion I usually see from her as town.
Bottom quote only included coz it's a correction of the top one.In post 363, Kokichi Oma wrote:have* not lack
But yeah, this kinda makes sense I guess? I also liked his general posts before this (including the ones right after my last post towards cheet)Back to my old main for now
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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Nope
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Kaede Akamatsu Mafia Scum
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