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if you don't see why he would make it as a fake claim, why are you voting him for it?In post 34, Nictis wrote:
This claim in general is leaving me baffled, I can only think of two possible reasons for it, one of which requires him to be a fool and the other is too convoluted. It doesn't make sense him to make such a... contradictory claim, especially given that there was no attention on him. So it gives me a pretty bad vibe, and has me frowning at him outing his buddy like that.In post 33, Nosferatu wrote:
ascetic miller seems a bit overkill for a fakeclaim doesn't it? Especially one that's not in response to anything in particular.In post 32, Nictis wrote:So... Why shouldn't I think you're mafia here?-
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i have something to say but i'm waiting to say it.-
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this seems genuine and i feel confident in sorting profil if he's scum on meta anyways, so townreading profilIn post 124, profii wrote:
How many scum should we expect in a 20p gameIn post 116, TwoInAMillion wrote:The odds of this being an all town neighborhood are very low.
The hood seems to have outed itself with no disputes - is a 1 in 4 chance at mafia going to be better than however many in 20
I’m assuming we don’t have 5 scum here so surely yes?-
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by the way, do none of you read mafia discussionIn post 5189, Assemblerotws wrote:Ascetic Miller
Boonskiies came up with this idea, and it struck me as so amusing I asked and received permission to share it here.-
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what? didn't just just recognize what archwing said, that this game is confirmed singleball?In post 269, Pine wrote:I'm proceeding on a multiball assumption, so scumhunting is mostly null. In other words, Egg is doing genuine work that has merit, he's just tunneling me wrong.-
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EBWOP.In post 380, northsidegal wrote:
what? didn't you just recognize what archwing said, that this game is confirmed singleball?In post 269, Pine wrote:I'm proceeding on a multiball assumption, so scumhunting is mostly null. In other words, Egg is doing genuine work that has merit, he's just tunneling me wrong.-
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egg seems like town, as does nictis.
it was the assemble quote there, didn't intend to leave it unsaid for this long.In post 317, RedFlavor wrote:
What is it?In post 40, northsidegal wrote:i have something to say but i'm waiting to say it.
red, why aren't i townreading you yet? where's that sweet game analysis?-
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feeling it in what way? i can understand where firebringer may be coming from – what givesIn post 350, Pine wrote:
Yeah I was looking through the lurkers and I'm feeling it too.In post 345, Firebringer wrote:I think north side might be scum btwyouthat impression?-
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oh lol i pulled a gamma and responded to something before reading like two posts down-
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why?In post 385, Firebringer wrote:Okay yeah northside is scum lol-
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townreading
Egg
profii
Inferno390
townleaning
Nictis
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Theta Alpine
Lil Uzi Vert
Flubbernugget
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scumleaning
Pine
Gamma Emerald
these people are in the game?
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i'm not doing a 50 post catchup to ask people questions from page 6 that get answered on page 8. you're trying to apply behavior from a micro game to a 20 player large. it's not going to work. like i explicitly said, i'm more focused on just catching up than typing up a whole lot and going in-depth – i got prodded and i'd really rather just have something and then go from there than spend so much time trying to come up with still relevant questions that i end up not posting anything at all.In post 388, Firebringer wrote:Rather than doing her typical probing for an understanding of the players all these posts from nsg is doing is very surface level.
Not Townnsg at all.
Even her “I can go into more if requested” doesn’t sound Town her.
I understand ur doing catchup but you usually have questions for people you scumread.
Where’s the questions for gamma?
i imagine you have at least some (if even the most completely surface-level) idea of my meta, whereas i don't think pine does.In post 389, Firebringer wrote:
How can you understand it from me?In post 383, northsidegal wrote:
feeling it in what way? i can understand where firebringer may be coming from – what givesIn post 350, Pine wrote:
Yeah I was looking through the lurkers and I'm feeling it too.In post 345, Firebringer wrote:I think north side might be scum btwyouthat impression?-
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what? i don't understand your implication here. i said this because people seemed to be assuming that the claim was anything but a joke / fakeclaim.In post 392, Theta Alpine wrote:
did you notice that boonskiies was the one who claimed itIn post 379, northsidegal wrote:by the way, do none of you read mafia discussionIn post 5189, Assemblerotws wrote:Ascetic Miller
Boonskiies came up with this idea, and it struck me as so amusing I asked and received permission to share it here.-
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i never said it couldn't be bs. i said that i would understand it more from you than from him.In post 391, Firebringer wrote:Why would it make sense from me?
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If you're talking about anything upick, i played an incredibly lurky, surface level game there – i don't know where your comparison is coming from then.In post 396, Firebringer wrote:I’m applying meta from a 20 player game actually, nice try to pretend I’m using different games tho lol
Why do you assume that i'm "pretending" that you're using meta from other games? From my pov that's the most reasonable assumption, because if you were going off of anything upick then i don't think what you're saying makes sense.-
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i scumread gamma forIn post 399, Firebringer wrote:I assume even if this is just catch up you would have questions for gamma since u scumread, did I miss something or is this incorrect assessment?howhe's playing this game, not necessarily for any sort of logical inconsistencies or things that don't make sense as is the basis for many
of my scumreads in other games. also, again – i was focused more on catching up than responding to things specifically. i planned to form reads and then go from here as a starting point keeping up with the thread. you jumping in and voting me for not having questions yet seems incredibly premature.
i mean, i consider it one of my worst town games. i don't think i played very well there at all. i spent too much time trying to be cute with my role and not enough actually doing anything in-thread.In post 402, Firebringer wrote:
That was surface level?In post 401, northsidegal wrote:
If you're talking about anything upick, i played an incredibly lurky, surface level game there – i don't know where your comparison is coming from then.In post 396, Firebringer wrote:I’m applying meta from a 20 player game actually, nice try to pretend I’m using different games tho lol
Why do you assume that i'm "pretending" that you're using meta from other games? From my pov that's the most reasonable assumption, because if you were going off of anything upick then i don't think what you're saying makes sense.-
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i assumed you weren't using anything upick as meta because i would assume that nobody would ever use that game as meta for a scumread on me.In post 403, Firebringer wrote:And I assume u pretend that because you basically seemed to try to discredit my meta read by applying a standard to it that didn’t apply, which then you did again by saying that other game was surface level like ur game here which is odd to me tbh-
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lolIn post 419, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think this is a fair analysis, her SR on me feels so bare-bones and honestly kinda forced
what's forced about it? i don't understand how you can call something forced when i probably haven't said more than 4 sentences about it.-
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uh, yeah – it's surface level. i said that people were townreads or scumreads and linked to the posts that made me think that. this makes me scum, to you? explain that, because that's hardly any sort of read to be confident about.In post 413, Pine wrote:
Yarp. Took the words right out of my mouth. "Surface level" is an excellent way to describe it.In post 385, Firebringer wrote:Okay yeah northside is scum lolStay on Target, Red Five. BoonFlavor is the lynch today. We can string NSG up tomorrow.
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what seems "off"?In post 416, Inferno390 wrote:I could lynch NSG on meta here. Like, I know the only game I've been in with her was Newbie, but compared to that game, this just seems off for her.-
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i mean, two of my scumreads are the ones jumping on calling me scum, and for inferno he's done this loltunnel thing on me before so i think i should be able to point that out.In post 430, Firebringer wrote:Nsg if ur Town u should probably stop defend posting.
Probably should post when you know you have thoughts on other players besides people poking u?-
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I'll be around in a bit to catch up and give some more detailed thoughts-
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hi, you all get apathetic nsg this game-
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in a vaccum i scumread mulch's entrance but if he calls me locktown then i'll accept being pocketed by him for a while-
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i should be able to be better / get more focused as the game goes on.-
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Spoiler: old list
New list with thoughts, updated reads in bold:
townreading
Egg – haven't seen anything to make me reconsider this, interested to hear more from him because as long as i'm townreading him i trust his reads
profii – LUV seemed to bring up a point regarding the weird way profil talked about UCV, will take a look at that right after this. if i'm wrong on one of my townreads here i think it would be this one.
Inferno390 – Mulch pushed here but i'm still pretty confident in this. he's playing a lot like what i know of his towngame.
Firebringer– Moved up from null, i think the way he's dealt with me has been pretty towny as well as how he interacted with mulch.
Gamma Emerald– i did a review of the game that was mentioned earlier in the thread where gamma also did this new style thing. my inital scumread on him was based mostly off of that but for the rest of the thread i think he's played pretty solidly to his towngame.
townleaning
Nictis – it might be correct to move this one down to null.
TwoInAMillion – same as above, i'm not sure if i could actually confidently read 2iam, don't remember why he was a townlean in the first place.
Archwing – i might be able to move arch up to a townread.
RedFlavor – is he still not around? i don't remember reading a lot from him which is disappointing.
– i have nothing to say about these, firebringer moved upnull
Flavor Leaf
Theta Alpine
Lil Uzi Vert
Flubbernugget
Nosferatu
Firebringer
scumleaning
Pine
Gamma Emerald
Beefster– Don't like the way he's entered into the thread, i know this is exactly what people said about me but his conclusions don't really feel real. I don't know how familiar he is with 2iam but the confidence in that read there doesn't seem real and the "one scum in nsg or nosferatu" doesn't make sense to me at all.
Mulch– i'll have to go review the last few times that i played with mulch but i really don't like how fast a lot of the reads that he proclaimed with confidence changed. that's pretty much the best summary of my read on him i could come up with, and if it's worth anything i read a mulch alt as mulch after his first post in my last game with him. like i said though, if mulch locktowns me i'll accept being pocketed by him for a while.
these people are in the game?
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UC Voyager
Beefster
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sheeping kmd, the voice of reason.In post 1125, Egg wrote:
Got my links?In post 1106, TwoInAMillion wrote:I think it's more likely he didn't like drawing scum and was looking for an excuse to replace out.
VOTE: tiam
i'd also be willing to follow mulch onto flubbernugget, although he's still voting nosferatu?-
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let's see if i contribute while reading as little of this game as possible-
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i think i messed that up
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TwoInAMillion (6)Egg, northsidegal, RedFlavor, Inferno390, Beefster, Flubbernugget
Mordin Solus (7)Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion, Mulch
there's no overlap at all, which is interesting-
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my broad readslist right now:
{Egg, profii, Inferno390, Firebringer, Gamma Emerald}
{Nictis, Archwing, RedFlavor}
{Tiam, Flavor, Theta, Mordus, Flubb, Nosferatu, Ausuka}
{Pine, Beefster, Mulch, texcat}
TwoInAMillion (6)Egg, northsidegal, RedFlavor, Inferno390, Beefster, Flubbernugget
Mordin Solus (7)Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion, Mulch
{Egg, profii,Inferno390, Firebringer,Gamma Emerald}
{Nictis,Archwing,RedFlavor}
{Tiam,Flavor, Theta, Mordus,Flubb, Nosferatu,Ausuka}
{Pine,Beefster,Mulch,texcat}-
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i'm not absolutely convinced that tiam is scum but i don't really prefer the alternative wagon.-
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In post 1465, Gamma Emerald wrote:
probably because iirc that's where they're at nowIn post 1461, northsidegal wrote:TwoInAMillion (6)Egg, northsidegal, RedFlavor, Inferno390, Beefster, Flubbernugget
Mordin Solus (7)Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion, Mulch
there's no overlap at all, which is interesting
thought i was looking at like the "whole game history"-
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i had bad reads
kind of hard to catch up on
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i think it would probably be the most pro-town of me to just sheep someone honestly-
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i think red has a good chance to be scum, so
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yeah tex can also be scum but there's always the chance that i'm just misreading her (she seems to get scumread a lot) and my vote on the red wagon makes more of a difference in terms of the lynch actually going through-
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he hasn't made any posts on-site since his first one here, so i think it's probably NAI?-
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@mod, i will be V/LA until the end of the 20th-
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i think texcat might actually be town, the push on theta alpine doesn't seem like scum texcat from memory - unless both of her partners are the main wagons that she's just avoiding, i feel like she'd have joined on one instead of doing her own thing.-
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are you still voting the claimed cop?-
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lol, i'm getting carried this game
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so is redflavor the one up next after texcat flips?-
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i mean, it's pretty unambiguous that egg hid behind texcat, so i really don't see it being possible that she's town. i think the most likely scenario is that mafia's kill got blocked somehow, by a protective or by some kind of roleblocker maybe.-
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no, if you hide behind town you can't be targeted for kills as far as i understand.-
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i don't think it has to be a quick day but i think getting the confirmed scum lynch is better than resolving it through night actions, avoids any sort of trickery and now (if i'm counting the number of scum correctly?) roleblockers / trackers become basically cops.-
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but what's the value in that? it seems to me like there's more value in just having the one scum left going itno the night.In post 2016, Firebringer wrote:I think letting him shoot scum is better.
If scum have roleblocker they reveal that info by blocking pine-
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I'm hiding behind arch I guess. Game is over anyways I think-
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