Large Normal 224 | Endgame

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tea
Isn’t Tea in a way just Flavor Leaf?

[Gamma Emerald]

I have experience with all except like 4 names on the list
I can go over them more if you like?

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw I have two approaches to the game I am considering and I feel like making it a democracy. So here’s the options. Either I go super-chill this game and let others drive it, or I go super-hyper and try to drive it myself, and will also aim for top poster of the game (I wouldn’t do this if there were a lot of threats to that position but only FL really is and I might be able to buy him off). Use for the first idea and for the second.
Whichever has more in 24 hours is what I go with.

[Gamma Emerald]

I can already tell I was wrong to think FL was only one able to contest me when it came to posting rate.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: davesaz because his username doesn't start with a capital letter. splitfarve doesn't either but I only have one vote.

Layla's RVS vote has too much justification behind it. Only scum cares about justifying and "explaining" their RVS vote.

This seems valid
VOTE: Layla

[Gamma Emerald]

Let’s not, at least not until everyone has checked in

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess it’s NAI then.

Actually no, Layla's excuse can easily be made by scum. So since Gamma so kindly started the wagon, i'll put some more "oomph" behind it.
VOTE: Layla

Btw you

were

town in Haunted Village right

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess it’s NAI then.

Actually no, Layla's excuse can easily be made by scum. So since Gamma so kindly started the wagon, i'll put some more "oomph" behind it.
VOTE: Layla

Why didn’t you start the wagon?

Tbh why did you ask this. Like there’s a very simple answer already evident.

[Gamma Emerald]

The problem is your explanation explains nothing regarding the reason you were poked about it. How does deciding your RVS pre-game affect your given logic?

[Gamma Emerald]

The problem is your explanation explains nothing regarding the reason you were poked about it. How does deciding your RVS pre-game affect your given logic?

?

Someone said my RVS post had too much explanation and only scum do that.
I said I craft my RVS post before alignment was given. (Well not 100% copypaste craft. I look at the playerlist and think of a reason to vote someone for RVS, or what to say in general.)

If this doesn't explain it, I don't know what will.

Even if you do that, there’s the chance you may change it. And having to explain away an exclusion like that looks scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Saw those replacements coming
Pepcho was the reason I thought to join this

[Gamma Emerald]

The difficult thing about this setup is that i'm most definitely going to forget at least a couple of people here, especially the inactive ones. So if they're scum they can just coast along undetected because there are so many distractions.

Do you think everyone else will forget about them if you do?

[Gamma Emerald]

Guess who fucked up and posted under the wrong account!

You are a total loser.
Also DANN that’s a rather large wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Although I could see them being scummy.

I was kinda liking Layla taking such a solid position on a null read then she posted this

[Gamma Emerald]

I scumread Chemist already.

Ok boomer

Oh boy a post # discussion.

Wake me when something spicy happens, and more votes on papa leaf in the meanwhile please and thank you
Also VOTE: Tea

So you want more votes on Flavor Leaf yet you don't vote for him yourself?

I prefer if you preface “Flavor Leaf” with The Awesome, the mighty, Emperor, or sexy.

Cut out Flavor, and add Papa will suffice as well.

Alright, Emperor Flavor Leaf
(Too bad you’re just a figurehead)

[Gamma Emerald]

Wasn’t sure Emperor Flavor Leaf

[Gamma Emerald]

The difficult thing about this setup is that i'm most definitely going to forget at least a couple of people here, especially the inactive ones. So if they're scum they can just coast along undetected because there are so many distractions.

Do you think everyone else will forget about them if you do?

What a weird question.

Weird question for a weird post. You seem to be rather self-centered in your approach currently.

[Gamma Emerald]

i have a weird gut feeling we hit scum in Tea for completely wrong reasons and now we’re in a holding pattern because scum’s awkward.

I don’t actually have a Tea read myself

Actually re-reading the game. This post is BIG yikes! Holy shit.

Explain?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Please explain your progression from your last four posts all of which happened in about 30 minutes.

I read the game again to evaluate whether i really was on the right wagon here, because the one on Tea built up really fast.

Feel like this is a town thought process

[Gamma Emerald]

You seem to be rather self-centered in your approach currently.

In what way?

You assume that just because someone will elude your suspicions means the same will happen with everyone else. At least that’s what I get out of what you said.

[Gamma Emerald]

i have a weird gut feeling we hit scum in Tea for completely wrong reasons and now we’re in a holding pattern because scum’s awkward.

I don’t actually have a Tea read myself

Actually re-reading the game. This post is BIG yikes! Holy shit.

Explain?

It's a bad post because Leaf is lightly shading Tea by claiming we "hit scum" and it's only the reasoning behind the wagon that's not good enough. Yet at the same time he claims he has no opinion on Tea at all. If so:

1: Why claim the wagon "hit scum" if he apparently doesn't have any opinion about Tea's alignment.
2: Why is he sure we "hit scum" in the first place. What sort of logic is he thinking here?
3: Does town have any reason to make this post? This seems like the sort of post scum makes to encourage a wagon on town, but not wanting to take any responsibility for the outcome.

Yeah I agree that it’s kinda weird to have that kind of opinion on a wagon you don’t have a read on. My main concern is whether there is scum motivation in it, which you sorta lay out here.
VOTE: Emperor Flavor Leaf
I think I’m on board with this

[Gamma Emerald]

I've been waiting for Nomination Mafia to end

I'm pretty sure PMysterious is town and I think it's fairly likely Norwegian is playing similarly to how he played there.

You shouldn't refer to ongoing games.

That’s what he was avoiding :thonk:

[Gamma Emerald]

So taking a cursory glance at the game, I have a few developing reads, but not much yet. In general I really hate Day 1 and do much better on Day 2 and onward, because I have solid information to work with.

Before I post my reads I have a question because it's not clear: are we dealing with more than one Scum faction? Because the way I read it in the OP it feels like there being two Scum factions is definitely possible.

Idk. Btw if anyone thinks mod meta might help just a note that the one who originally created the setup was pienyan. I know she has at least 2 games modding experience by the fact I saw she had modded a large in 2017

[Gamma Emerald]

Good morning I've dragged myself out of the abyss AMA

What’s your take on the Tea wagon?

[Gamma Emerald]

What reasons are there to not vote?

[Gamma Emerald]

Sigh

I have literally misread Chemist once and thats if you generously count "I compromise lynched him because deadline/people didnt care/i could expose my actual scumread tomorrow anyway" as misreading.

Yes there's not much about Chemist but gut feels, man, gut feel.

Off of I believe 1 post
What???

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Tea
I think I’m alright voting this rn
Tbh this game feels like it’s going faster somehow

[Gamma Emerald]

town
{Chemist Billy}
{Layla GE}
---
{Luca Reundo}
{Vork Norwegian}
scum

there's a pretty big difference between the tiers separated by the line btw.

You claim there’s a pretty big difference between the tiers, but your top TR is just a "gut read" on someone that’s posted like 2-3 posts by the time you made this...

...separated by the line...
ok

What is the point of this

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma’s play’s poppin out at me too. He was voting me, forgot who he was voting and reassured his tea vote, who I was on.

Early game jitters and lack of investment so you forget? Possibly. Might be town points.

Nope I changed my mind about things when Tea just stopped making sense but I think you thinking this way is kinda towny

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw pls find somewhere to vote if you aren’t yet, I spoke out against the Tea wagon earlier but we are creeping towards deadline so more votes are good

[Gamma Emerald]

Good news: not drowning in stuff.
Bad news: not much spicy to guess at motivations from.

In case you missed it. A "large" game with post numbers still in the 300's and a week-ish(??) in? Inconceivable!

Just wait until a replacement blows the place up

You know it’s gonna happen

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I agree about Wake but want to keep multiple wagons going rn until something strong forms again

[Gamma Emerald]

I've been waiting for Nomination Mafia to end

I'm pretty sure PMysterious is town and I think it's fairly likely Norwegian is playing similarly to how he played there.

You shouldn't refer to ongoing games.

That’s what he was avoiding :thonk:

Okay, so now that Nomination Mafia actually ended, I can finally establish the point I wanted to make earlier. In Nomination Mafia, NorwegianboyEE made similar aggressive statements as he did in the quote I posted recently. It turns out that he was Mafia that game, and because of that, I'm not comfortable about Norwegian's aggressive play in the quote I mentioned. I thought I'd have to wait until Day 2 or 3 to bring it up because of the "no ongoing games rule" put in place, but lucky me, the game ended before the day expired.

Anyway, back to looking through this game and figuring out what to do next.

I agree with this.

And you didn’t explicitly bring this up WHY???

[Gamma Emerald]

I have experience with all except like 4 names on the list
I can

go over

them more if you like?

Under wins

this time.
VOTE: Dunnstral

The Bank always wins. Sorry, Gamma.

Your bets, please..

The monkey is def town

[Gamma Emerald]

The problem is your explanation explains nothing regarding the reason you were poked about it. How does deciding your RVS pre-game affect your given logic?

Allow me to intervene. Like, let's imagine DEB was in here. I probably would have voted him for doublecrossing the town in Korina's GIM. I would have done it regardless of whether I rolled Town or Scum here, because it was decided since Korina's game ended. Both the vote target AND the reason were decided BEFORE I would have known my role/alignment in THIS game.

Sp far I have Gamma. Layla and Zorte as Town Leans, and only Nor as a mild scum lean.

I mean that’s fair
But the need to bring up that exclusion bothered me. Kinda goes back to a rather wonky tell I have.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t understand the stats

A50’s percentages are just considering each option equally possible. Tea is saying that’s not the right approach. I think Tea has a point with the numbers.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just wait until a replacement blows the place up
You know it’s gonna happen

Ah! You mean a little white monkey with 2 gallons of gasoline and a set of matches?

you have a point

[Gamma Emerald]

@Nor: There are a whole lot more explanations for it, both from a Town PoV or from Scum PoV. Like, maybe he forgot about his read on Layla? That would have been a good explanation, but he didn't say that. (That was for Town). For Scum, how about he voted and realized he was voting next to his scum p, or there were 2 scums already on the wagon and he was the third, or hr forgot the partner he voted was the stronger Scum PR... I could go on, you know.

But what bothers me more is you making a big deal of it. I have yet to even vote either of you, Luca or Tea. I have

just now

finished catching up. I'm still undecided on which of you is the scummiest, and I haven't yet considered which lynch would yield more info. Also, it takes 10 to lynch and the largest wagon is only halfway through. What exactly is your problem with my expressed reads?

I also still have no reads on 5 slots (namely; Pm/Wake/FM/Billy/Dunn), so I'm far from decided on a lynch.

Could you vote at least?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm always down to policy drunken monkey for existing and because I don't want to put up with his screeching, but he can stay for now

Bleurgh
I’m like the one person who is vaguely consistent at reading A50 well so we are not policy lynching him while I am in the game

[Gamma Emerald]

Vork what are you talking about? D1 modifier?

Yes

I super doubt this. The benefit of the greylist being canned is that if a role isn’t explicitly possible in a Normal game, there’s no more need for guessing games. I don’t think there are any Day roles currently in Normal games that need N0 powers.

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s too many people in this game for me to case perfectly. I’m fine with getting voted as long as long as it’ll ultimately help the town catch scum. But god that case Tea has on me is so horrendous. What you’re doing is look at my posts and apply them to your own already established narrative, but it’s simply wrong. I’m wondering if you’re a town grasping at straws here or whether it feels so artificial because you’re scum attempting to metanalyze.

You have a pretty good point tbh, I caught scum trying the same thing Tea is doing before, and this looks like deja vu all over again.
More Tea votes please

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald has a very logical and coherent though process which i can understand so his slot screams town to me. I think the only thing i don't really agree with is his TR on A50.
A50 still kinda sketchy lookin to me.

That’s understandable that you wouldn’t agree but until I start thinking otherwise on A50 I’m willing to go to great lengths to defend him. The way he’s been engaging with me and approaching the game in general feels like his town game

[Gamma Emerald]

It was for the MEMES!

Btw Nor is town
I think that burst of posting was rather earnest

[Gamma Emerald]

Vorkuta is distracting from real wagons/avoiding them by fakeclaiming a n0 result in a normal game

Fuck I thought there was going to be 0 resistance on this one

Why did you ignore my call-out?

[Gamma Emerald]

Saw a request for town reads -- here you go, no particular order for strength other than knowing my alignment .
davesaz
Luca Blight
Almost50
Gamma Emerald
Zote the Mighty

Norwegian might be town. I didn't like the early reluctance to vote, when at that time a vote meant very little. Later posting is good but I tend to have reservations about the possibility that it's a recovery tactic.

Talk about Zote and maybe Luca.

[Gamma Emerald]

Saw a request for town reads -- here you go, no particular order for strength other than knowing my alignment .
davesaz
Luca Blight
Almost50
Gamma Emerald
Zote the Mighty

Norwegian might be town. I didn't like the early reluctance to vote, when at that time a vote meant very little. Later posting is good but I tend to have reservations about the possibility that it's a recovery tactic.

This pings me a bit, dave listing himself as a townread apropos of nothing. Like, of course you read yourself as towm, and you’ll say you do even if you aren’t town. It seems, I don’t know, overcompensating in a way?

The more I think about it, the more I want to
VOTE: dave

You know this

might

be a good point? I don’t recall that kind of behavior from Dave ever.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe, but he didn’t just list himself he has an explanation for why he listed himself. Of course he knows his own alignment. Everyone knows their own alignment, but dave feels the need to let us know his alignment without any pressure on him. It looks like he is overcompensating for rolling scum.

Again, stylistic choice

I consider it a personality thing vs a style thing

[Gamma Emerald]

I also still have no reads on 5 slots (namely; Pm/Wake/FM/Billy/Dunn), so I'm far from decided on a lynch.

Could you vote at least?

Do you have reads on the forementioned 5?

VOTE: Nor

Just to make sure I'm voting at EoD, but it may change if I have the time and will (By "will" I mean if I somehow start TRing Nor or if I see someone more likely to flip red)

PMyst null, don’t remember anything from that person
Wake scumlean, don’t like him saying lynching him is a gamble
FM null, feel like they’ve had 1% more presence than PMyst
Billy towny, just off of how they are interacting with Nor, seems like genuine sorting
Dunn gut town, I don’t really have a reason but I want him to be town

[Gamma Emerald]

It was for the MEMES!

Btw Nor is town
I think that burst of posting was rather earnest

Hot take tbh

How
Also go ahead and speak up about that one bud

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer to lynch Wake or Vork

Idk about Vork but between Wake and Tea I definitely prefer lynching Tea. It looked like his wagon has been deflating while others have gained traction.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd prefer to lynch Wake or Vork

Idk about Vork but between Wake and Tea I definitely prefer lynching Tea. It looked like his wagon has been deflating while others have gained traction.

That’s because he’s been looking more Townie.

I actually think there is a very solid point against Tea when it comes to how Tea is using meta on Nor. Honestly you need to expand on this because I feel like Tea has looked more scummy.

Most people alive right now are town, I don't think that means anything

Sorry but what the heck does this post even mean

That looking at "wagon resistance" at a scale of 1-2 votes being moved when there are 18 players alive is very misguided, at worst

To be clearer, saying that Tea's wagon has been "deflating" isn't a reason to think that tea is scum

I guess with the last VC my concerns there are a little dulled because I felt like Wake specifically got rather popular but I seem to have been wrong there

I no longer feel strongly about my Chemist town read, mostly because his impression on me has gone from town to... nonexistent

And this is a BS read
Tea, you wanna explain why you are reading people like this? At the very least this is a bad way to play the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well Tea, (or Menalque) clearly doesn't know me that well. He's analyzing my Towngame in Haunted Village vs my scumgame in nomination mafia. The problem is that i was playing much more submissively in Haunted Village as town than i usually do, and now he's using that as a reason to scumread me for playing my normal towngame in this one.

If that’s Menalque then I think that raises his scum equity
His push on you feels similar to his push on me in Pokémon Ruby Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Well Tea, (or Menalque) clearly doesn't know me that well. He's analyzing my Towngame in Haunted Village vs my scumgame in nomination mafia. The problem is that i was playing much more submissively in Haunted Village as town than i usually do, and now he's using that as a reason to scumread me for playing my normal towngame in this one.

If that’s Menalque then I think that raises his scum equity
His push on you feels similar to his push on me in Pokémon Ruby Mafia

Interesting. Can you link me that game?

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80102

[Gamma Emerald]

FYI the parallel I see currently is that Tea/Mena as scum seems to take a hard to combat point and build his case on that. In Pokémon Ruby he used his alleged meta with the person I replaced to suspect me, and here he seems to be using Nor’s difference in play when compared to one of his town games to suspect him. Which if Nor is established as someone with certain differences might be valid but as it stands seems kinda weak. But it’s one I see being a challenge to argue against because the main defense to that is “yes my play is different but that doesn’t mean I am scum”.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I think you said when I asked about HV that you were the town vig? That would likely make for some different play, especially since I think you’re at newb status kinda

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe it’s just Chemist after all. Always lurking in the background. Probably laughing at us in the scum PT. That FIEND!

Tbh I’d rather just vote Wake
Don’t know VC yet so I’ll hold and just UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Chennis I can take the time and pet them like a barking Labrador and calm them down.

Menalque’s all fine and dandy until I start to pet him

What the fick
Also VOTE: wake

[Gamma Emerald]

Is this the only reason you find me scummy fool?

No it's also your needlessly abrasive language.

That’s just roleplay

...fool!

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I said, I hate Day 1 for obvious reasons. I've got nothing to work with.

And if THAT's your reason to mislynch me, LOL. You're not going to force me to post when I hate Day 1.

I do, however, notice who acts and who doesn't in response to me saying I don't like Day 1.

What does that stuff about who acts and who doesn’t tell you o wise Wake

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not ‘take notice’ of those players yourself now?

If you’re Town then you literally have more info than any other town player in the game right now to get stuck into, as there’re 8 players keen on lynching you and you obviously know which way you’re gonna flip.

It feels atm like you’re tentative to name names in case you’re lynched anyway and it gives away more info that can be analyzed D2.

oh yeah, this

is what i wanted to say, but luca said it better

Thirding the notion that Wake is avoiding a name and shame for antispew reasons

[Gamma Emerald]

Hectic asked me in the mafia PT to say something about Zote. I was a bit sceptical at first, but he was adamant about it. So i guess i’ll have to.

Zote be looking kinda scummy yo. He’s just a paper tiger. All bark and no bite. We don’t want THOSE kind of people hogging up space in our overcrowded town. No sir-ee-bob.

I don't know what this person is talking about! I'm not in any Mafia PTs... I don't even know what "PT" stands for!!

But now that you say it Norwee, I actually completely agree with what you're saying on him. Like a cardboard giraffe, all card, no board. I will read the rest of the game tomorrow to see if I can confirm our theory.

Oh dear lord this game is going to be a long one

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m getting town pings from Dunnstral and a bit negative vibes from Davesaz.

Kinda same

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello, friends. I don't have a lot of experience because this is my first time posting to this Large Normal Game, so I ask you to treat me like a simple newbie.

I'm not sure if this is the right play but I'm going to claim jester, I can help everyone find the mafia but only if you promise to lynch me before the last mafia gets lynched.

So far I have read the first couple of pages of this game, and Layla is flailing after people suspected her for her RVS vote so quite suspicious of that. Norwee pushed it for good reasons but his floppity-flipping on it was weird. Zote the Fucking Mighty seems like a really strong player, I want to say something suspicious about him but I'm afraid of what he's capable of and what he'll do if I say it. Can someone else say it please?

I hope everyone enjoyed my catchup, I worked hard to make it.

Found my preferred lynch on scum.

VOTE: Hectic

First off, he asked to be lynched... to win.
Second, seriously, no Jesters is Normals so LAL
Third, he also Amish-told.

I dunno what to say, but the Hectic I know doesn't do all 3, and especially not #3 (I guess it was an attempt to look clueless thus be TR'd for it??)

Is the amish told the greeting the thread thing? Never heard it called that. Also, didnt he do that in large 223? You were in that game so you saw him claim a role that wasnt in a normal, I'm pretty sure he greeted the thread there, and he said to wait to lynch him until right before the last mafia, which was his win con, which is what he did with Survivor in 223. This pings me, because it misreps his meta pretty badly.

Large 223 still going I believe o_O

[Gamma Emerald]

Prodding Flavor Leaf

This just increased Flavor’s scum equity tenfold

[Gamma Emerald]

Currently I don't understand the wagon on Tea.

Could it be boiled down for me please?

Lack of resistance on Tea wagon has me slightly worried.

wow this...does not look good

Sure, but is it town doesn’t look good or scum?

Why would scum contradict themselves so meaninglessly like that

Actually I never noticed this but I posted stuff like 238 a LOT in NY 213 (Ircher’s 25p large normal). So that’s a point against Wake, and possibly against Tea too because I asked that about wagons on my scumbuddies there

[Gamma Emerald]

Though I guess the purpose differs
Might change the validity of that thought

[Gamma Emerald]

holy crap

Did not expect Flavor to validate me like that
Now I want to townread him
HELP THE PROPHECY IS HAPPENING

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi
Reading page 33, why is PMyst getting votes

[Gamma Emerald]

You can assume that, but you’d be wrong


I didn’t say it was hard evidence, I just called it a point against him. And like when I did it in NY 213 it was rather unsolicited, done to fish for reasons to either bus or defend. Here I noticed an increase in votes and wanted to know why the motion was happening.

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry for the inactivity. My schedule's been very packed recently and I haven't found much time to post.

Agree with the wagon on PM. That waffling around the Tea wagon that Chemist mentioned is pretty pingy (I've read "something worth mentioning" three times in PM's second post). I've also noticed he's done a similar thing with Norwegian where he says he's concerned by Norwegian's "aggressive play" but never actually gives a read on him, later saying he'd need a "night phase to go through everything said", and it kind of reads like PM was just hoping someone would pick it up and go after Norwegian w/o having to give an actual stance himself so he could back down from if later if need be. His latest post is also pretty bad, especially given how it was only like 3 hours after Fish voted so it's likely scum couldn't have even seen it, so it felt like he was jumping the gun there.

VOTE: PMysterious

Would still be fine with a Wake lynch as well. Also wary of splitfarvle/davesaz as well but I don't feel strong enough about it to push on them rn. Tea's recent posting has made me feel better about the slot but not enough to TR him. Also starting to TR Dunn a bit.

Thank you, don’t know if I agree with the vote but I don’t object rn to PMyst being wagoned

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel sick as hell today so I’m probably going to be doing jack shit. In addition:

VLA between Wednesday and Saturday (up through the end of November), Thanksgiving means family time and that means less phone time.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a guilty on Flavor Leaf

VOTE: FL

Mind explaining the manner of it? Maybe not now but later definitely

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Flavor
Never mind.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh, wait. Can't someone abuse Dolly's system if they start tactically splitting or conglomeration their posts?

If they think they're saying something which may be controversial, combine everything they want to say on the matter into one post, and take the easy -1.

If they're going to say something they think will be well recieved, split their thoughts into 10 different posts, and an easy +10.

See now this is crafty
I think I had a semi-weighted system in one game where I could give one or two points
Plus there’s the fact Dolly/I could like parts and dislike parts individually, and judge off that

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't keep track of which exact posts I used for my points. I didn't rate every post but if it stood out to me (positive or negative) I updated the rating for that player.

How are you sure you’ve got the right count, in that case?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh dear Lorde if this site is running slow the first day I can sit down and play in a little bit ffs

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah so I was never actually a cop

I'm actually a Loyal Neighborizer, and if FL was really a miller he'd be neighborized. He isn't.

I withheld this for this exact scenario

I really am a miller, though. As scum, I wouldn’t assume you were giving me a cop guilty, I just claimed my role.

Loyal is my go to bread and butter fake claim modifier

Miller shouldn’t make a Town Loyal role fail tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Generally Miller’s should claim, but I fucked myself by claiming miller all the time as scum.

IMAGINE THAT! ABUSING A SCUM STRATEGY HURTS DOING IT GENUINELY AS TOWN!

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m vigging Hectic tonight

[Gamma Emerald]

What part was a lie

[Gamma Emerald]

Aight Wake you have the floor

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I’m letting you talk first because you’re the one who needs flips to do his thing

[Gamma Emerald]

We had FOUR flips before then.
VOTE: Wake
Bye

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh why are you mentioning the nightkill
PEdit: oh what is it now

[Gamma Emerald]

Flavor Leaf (8): Wake88, Hectic, davesaz, Dolly Parton, Dunnstral, NorwegianboyEE, Almost50, Chemist1422

Show of hands.

Who thinks there is bussing scum on the FL wagon?

I for one believe there to be scum in there:

Wake88 & Dunnstral are the only ones on that wagon that were in the negative column on my list.

I mean he was guiltied so scum could be on it or they could not be, depends on whether they were around

[Gamma Emerald]

Oops, got super busy.

Okay, so definitely not wanting Wake for today.

Don’t really want A50 or Zote either.

Currently I don't understand the wagon on Tea.

Could it be boiled down for me please?

Lack of resistance on Tea wagon has me slightly worried.

wow this...does not look good

Sure, but is it town doesn’t look good or scum?

Why would scum contradict themselves so meaninglessly like that

Flavor went out of his way to protect Wake D1.

I could see both Wake88 and A50 being scum tbh.

Why A50 :/
Tbh I still feel like he’s town from earlier

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He’s done nothing that makes me feel he’s Town. He’s posted a lot of fluffy stuff, but his actual content has been dubious at best imo.

It reminds me of the last time I played with Hin - he was tr Day for a similar fluffy style, but from D2 onwards did nothing useful at all.

And he was scum in that game btw.

Well I can generally crack that fluffy shell and I think he is town

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To tell you the truth; FL's last spew got to me hard. I don't know whether he included a p in his FoS pile after having been hammered. I guess knowing someone too well can backfire.

If I can bring myself to it, I will probably reread this game as if I've just joined it. I make no promises though as I have been failing to concentrate much of late (since that VLA declaration), and I don't even feel like talking about it.

P-edit: Obviously I have nothing for nor against Wake. All I ask is to give him 48-72 hours to try and post something AI.

I'm getting scummy vibes from this.

y

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How about the fact no one else is voting Luca

[Gamma Emerald]

Go for it *shrug*

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Luca

L-1

Claim time.

Ew.

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Wake's scummier here.

a guilty.

ARE YOU SUICIDAL?

I'M TOWN.

I dunno this feels overreacty

As town id be like "ok wtf" and let it sit for a while and hope they go "sike"

Also this feels more like scum overreacting and trying to look like an enraged townie.
His first though is Dolly is a suicidal townie rather than the fact she could be scum?

I love how people form reads and then try to find some justification for it. When was the last time you saw scum respond to a guilty by "Are you suicidal?" rather than -say- "That's a lie!"?? I mean, the tone strikes me as a townie talking to someone they also believe is town, not scum trying to get out of a guilty.

HEYHEYHEY HOLD THE FUCK UP
Remember me in Terror in the City?

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A50 might be scum here tbh
I can’t believe that slipped his mind

[Gamma Emerald]

Not until he responds

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Thanks.
In my experience Pisskop (now established to be Dolly) posts with a lot of flaunt and defiance as town. So i'm not too sure i agree. But they are good points you're bringing up.

Wait what the shit

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Yeah no what are you on
Alts can’t play with their mains unless they wanna get fuckin banned to oblivion

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VOTE: Dolly

This is my kind of rush. I’m getting a little excited.

Mmm I’ll pass

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Not until he responds

Well, I just did, so go ahead and explain please.

You caught me in that game for a similar situation where I reacted to your fake guilty in a super scummy way
Not sure about how that applies to this game, but I think the fact you aren’t displaying that same level of comprehension is rather scummy
I also don’t care how engaged you are, there are things I’ve come to expect from you and deviating from the norm in this situation is a bad sign
VOTE: Almost50
Whoever else wanted this, hop on

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Why can't Luca be scum here???

If not then we must go Dunnstral.

VOTE: Dunnstral

If people would realize that my scum hunting practices are working, then you would have realized that I have already town cleared 2 people today.

Wake & Luca ( Both the reaction to fake guilty and the Luca wagon dissolving).

Trust my process and follow me on Dunnstral.

The fuck
Okay, why does you perspective shift IN THE MIDDLE of this post

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Dunnstral is probably town.

Everyone else was said to be either Vaniller or Frosted.

Why make Dunn 'Town'?


Im leaning slightly that dunn is town apart from this, so I choose to believe that.

Frosted?

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I kinda let this game slip
What are the current points against Dolly?

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Talk about the Dunn wagon, I recall the other parts somewhat

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VOTE: Dolly Parton
Yeah this seems fine.

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VOTE: Dolly Parton
Yeah this seems fine.

This is a terrible vote

Have you got any comments on everything that’s happened the last day or so?

Have you read 1402 on norway!scum?

Hadn’t read that case, I kinda lost interest in this game for a bit so I haven’t really read much of the last few irl days
The case looks alright, if you can get Norway over Dolly in votes I’ll do that

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VOTE: Norway
Okay

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I'm NOT okay releasing my personal PT at this current moment

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:thumbup:
I'll leave a note in there for you when it's time