In post 18, Aeronaut wrote:Farside, Reinoe, Alina, Mirhawk, T S O, notscience, Aegor, Shaddowez, tn, and Ooo OkaPoka, nice to be playing with you again! ~
In post 24, reinoe wrote:Hey. I don't think I've played with anyone here before so this will be a weird experience for me.
In post 44, RoyalApe wrote:In post 40, Elyse wrote:VOTE: RoyalApe
Why did you choose OkaPoka over Aeronaut or farside?
Do you think Aeronaut and farside want to lynch the person they're voting for?
If not, then what about OkaPoka's vote makes you think he actually wants to lynch reinoe?
It was the first vote of the day. If I'm poking somebody for being anxious, why would I vote for people that were after Oka?
Are you defending Oka? Do I need to be poking you instead? Hmmm?
In post 53, Alina wrote:Who's this "reinoe" guy people are voting? I looked in the playerlist and there's no such person. There's also no posts by this guy. I'm confused.
Anyways.
VOTE: Shaddowez
Told you this was coming.
Also /dejavutime
@FarsideWhy is Peregrine useless?
In post 119, T S O wrote:I do, gameplay. But Wake then made a thread in GD with the idea which everyone razed to the ground.
I somewhat supported the idea, but I doubt he could have got it through review.
In post 198, Elyse wrote:Ugh the Q+ button isn't working on my phone.
@Alina
At first I was just using RoyalApe's vote to get us out of RVS (his random reason didn't make much sense), but I didn't like his subsequent reactions and avoidance of my questions. It's a serious vote for now but not a strong scumread in the slightest because he is new. I'll have to see how he plays and reacts more to determine if his scummy behavior is part of his play style or not.
@texcat
Yes, I only found RoyalApe's vote worth questioning. Do you see any other votes that need questioning? If so, why haven't you questioned them yourself?
@farside
Please tell me what I am missing in the thread by focusing on RoyalApe.
In post 38, RoyalApe wrote:
VOTE: Vote: OkaPoka, you couldn't even wait 5 minutes before you felt the urge to lynch somebody. EVIL.
In post 259, reinoe wrote:In post 216, Elyse wrote:It's ok though because we're out of RVS! (Despite reinoe and co trying to keep us in it)
Now when you all realize that voting me for pressuring an RVS vote is stupid, we can get on with the game. If you seriously think scum would do this and try to ride it out to a lynch on RoyalApe, then lol ok.
lulz at the fakeness here.
VOTE: Elyse
[notscience, TSO, Elyse]
In post 265, Psyche wrote:well i like you farside
In post 463, OkaPoka wrote:Tree is being reinoe. Anyways tree is leaning scummy.to me. I would still like elsye and Josh to go at it.
In post 627, texcat wrote:
I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?
In post 470, texcat wrote:I have been reading along, but haven't understood half of what is going on. Tree made a couple of quickly disproven fake claims that I can't see the purpose for. And I can't see the motivation for it from either a scum or a town. Although I will say that it seemed to generate quite a bit of conversation.
The recent interactions between Aero and Elyse have convinced me to
VOTE: Aeronaut
In post 649, notscience wrote:In post 641, farside22 wrote:In post 627, texcat wrote:
I get that Gameplay's theory on a mountainous game makes it look like he is vanilla town. And I've never played with him before, but isn't it worth considering that he's scum who made this whole thing up to look like vanilla town?
Wtf?
All that has gone in and you want to play wifom.
Vote; texcat
What the hell is this post
In post 658, shaddowez wrote:Holy shitballs there's a lot of posting in this game - I thought the last large I was in was bad. 10 pages in a little over 24 hours is ridiculous!
Alina- My biggest scumreads right now (in no particular order) are TSO, RoyalApe, gameplay, and Aeronaut. I'd say that given the number of posts in the game, the three of them are providing the least amount of content in theirs, and don't seem to be doing anything to garner informatoin that could be helping town.
I'm having flashbacks to the Alinskies argument with a lot of the back-and-forths on here, thinking that most of them are town on town.
I didn't like tree's double fakeclaim, but didn't think that was specifically scummy. The fact that he could be using it as a godfather gambit makes me want to reread his ISO and look closer at thim though.
Farside- in 4 posts you went from asking why tree was scummy to suggesting a tree/texcat team. What made you think tree was scummy all of a sudden?
In post 662, tn5421 wrote:In post 648, Titus wrote:In post 646, Mirhawk wrote:This is your fault titus.
ZOMG! Superscum here. Blaming me for things when I wasn't here.
[/melodrama]
Since when does titus making sense = scum? (@titus, not mirhawk)
In post 677, texcat wrote:In post 672, farside22 wrote:
Texcat mentions a lot about tree in the post I quoted but vote for aero for an unknown reason.
I typically see that from newbscum. Where you mention a player you don't like but vote the other and the person you have more issue with is your scum buddy.
I mentioned Tree because I had just finished reading 10 pages about Tree. I stated how I felt about the big wagon of the day, that I didn't understand or like the double claim, but didn't see it as particularly scummy. I then voted Aero, who I do find scummy, based on his interactions with Elyse, as I thought I had clearly stated.
Your voting based on some crap rule about mentioning one player and voting another is just that, crap.
In post 679, notscience wrote:In post 672, farside22 wrote:Why is texcat a town read ?
He's not a townread
But the vote on him just felt really strange
It was reachy as fuck
In post 690, OkaPoka wrote:are you saying I am unremarkable farsiide?
In post 693, Majiffy wrote:In post 681, farside22 wrote:
Majiffy reads town, this seems pretty typical of his attitude and I disagree with his reason why tree is scum (which is normally I how feel about jiffy's point from previous games)
Reasons. There are multiple.
And since the reason you offer for tex scum necessitates treescum, I'm still waiting for you to move your vote to the viable wagon.
But the fact that you ignored my earlier post about this already has been noted.
In post 684, texcat wrote:I think whiffling, as Majiffy calls it
Woah woah woah I would never use such an aesthetically ugly word. You take that back, mister!
In post 698, Majiffy wrote:In post 696, farside22 wrote:
I noted most of your issue with Tree is his fake claim gambit's he did. If there was more I missed it.
Was there more?
His fake claim gambit was just the reason for the initial pressure vote.
My issues include;
His omgussy reaction
Several scummy players chainsawing for him
His avoidance of the arguments revolving around him and making no attempt of his own to defend himself
General under-the-radar play since a wagon on him has formed
In post 697, OkaPoka wrote:I sad
In post 716, tn5421 wrote:In post 710, Majiffy wrote:In post 703, tn5421 wrote:
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?
I have no idea what the fuckanyof this is. Or what Titus' whole "I am the light" post was about. I imagine that probably goes for everyone else who is ignoring it.
So why don't you go ahead and explain since you seem to grok it enough to have a problem with it?
Titus wanted to observe us togain reads without being required to give any information out in return. In essence, getting something for nothing.
Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.
If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.
In post 718, Majiffy wrote:In post 715, notscience wrote:I didn't like the vote from farside on tex nor did I like the readslist she gave shortly after.
Oka I just feel ike is playing peanut gallery but at the same time just kinda flitting around not really doing anything
I'm not keen on the vote on tex but probably for different reasons.
Which reminds me.
Farside why do you continue to ignore addressing my statement regarding tex/tree?
Oka is most definitely doing that.
In post 716, tn5421 wrote:Titus wanted to observe us togain reads without being required to give any information out in return. In essence, getting something for nothing.
Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.
If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.
I don't have an issue with Titus trying out a new playstyle.
There's nothing inherently scummy about playing your cards close to your chest.
In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.
In post 706, Majiffy wrote:In post 699, farside22 wrote:Who chainsaw defended him?
What's your thought on tex?
I agree with your last 2 but has he been around to post?
Give me a sec.
Psyche and to a lesser extent Aero; have you not been reading?
I don't have a read on tex yet.
He's made posts. Not anything notable, but I noted that he posted.
In post 792, Majiffy wrote:In post 789, Aegor wrote:In post 785, Majiffy wrote:You know I cleaned my glasses, bumped up the brightness and contrast on my monitor, but I'm still not seeing any direct quotes here.
You should get your eyesight checked then.
Feel free to super size the quotes to large for me and my old man eyes.
In post 790, farside22 wrote:In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.
This was in regard to you second part issue with tree.
That doesn't address anything whatsoever.
I'm saying that if you're calling tex scum for associatives that implicate tree, you should have no problem voting tree - the already viable wagon - since tree-town destroys your tex-scum position. Youneedtreescum for your texscum point to hold any merit.
In post 547, Majiffy wrote:Town
alina(pos scum iff multball)
T S O
Notscience
Gameplay
Okapoka
Elyse
Scum
AERONAUT
Tn5421
tree
Psyche
What im sitting on right now. I may be missing folk.
In post 694, Majiffy wrote:Upon review of the play, the call on the field has been reversed. I no longer townread Oka.
I don't really see anything that screams scum, either, though. Just a whole lot of nothing going on, which might very well be playstyle.
In post 802, Majiffy wrote:In post 799, farside22 wrote:Also tying a player with a flip is really fucking shitty wifom logic.
...
"Tex is scum because x interaction with player Y looks like scum calling their partner scummy while voting elsewhere.
vote: tex"
No players flipped.
In post 804, farside22 wrote:In post 802, Majiffy wrote:In post 799, farside22 wrote:Also tying a player with a flip is really fucking shitty wifom logic.
...
"Tex is scum because x interaction with player Y looks like scum calling their partner scummy while voting elsewhere.
vote: tex"
No players flipped.
You said you believe tree is scum with a pr.
I stated a meta newb behavoir I've seen.
How is that the same?
In post 803, Majiffy wrote:Welcome to the scumlist farside. I'm sure you'll feel at home with the rest of your moonlogicking compadres.
In post 801, Majiffy wrote:In post 798, farside22 wrote:
I'm curious what in oka's play changed your views from town to null?
But people agree that Tex is scum just didn't say anything about the team thing.
Reading the ISO. Which I said.
It doesn't matter what other people say. There is a viable wagon on a person that must be scum based on your arguments for texscum. Ergo your vote is bad unless you vote the person that already has a wagon instead of trying to start a new one.
In post 809, Majiffy wrote:
I never said they were the same so I'm just going to keep ignoring your moonlogic question.
In post 808, farside22 wrote:In post 803, Majiffy wrote:Welcome to the scumlist farside. I'm sure you'll feel at home with the rest of your moonlogicking compadres.
Please lynch me so no one listens to you for the rest of the game.
Please.
Cant: Busy lynching strong PR scum.
In post 812, Majiffy wrote:In post 810, farside22 wrote:In post 801, Majiffy wrote:In post 798, farside22 wrote:
I'm curious what in oka's play changed your views from town to null?
But people agree that Tex is scum just didn't say anything about the team thing.
Reading the ISO. Which I said.
It doesn't matter what other people say. There is a viable wagon on a person that must be scum based on your arguments for texscum. Ergo your vote is bad unless you vote the person that already has a wagon instead of trying to start a new one.
See clearly you did not read what I wrote.
No one said they agreed.
I'm scum reading tex.
You did not say you agreed with my reason, you just want me to vote tree.
Your just don't care unless tree gets a vote
... I read what you wrote.
I never said people did agree.
I know you're scumreading tex. That's part of my point.
Your reason necessitates treescum.
Seriously what the fuck are you on.
In post 811, farside22 wrote:
Your not explaining your point then.
I put a thought process I've seen and again all you want is a vote for tree based on a behavoir that you don't say you agree with.
See when people don't agree then I think maybe I'm wrong with what I recall
I do lack some confidence with scum/ scum relations.
It doesn't matter if I agree or not.
If your argument for Texscum is "Texscum is behaving in a way that implicates Treescum", and you refuse to vote Treescum, the more viable wagon, you are being internally inconsistent.
And your backpedaling by claiming that you are now unsure about your Texscum read because no one is agreeing with you is inconsistent because you're being sticky with your vote.
In post 680, farside22 wrote:In post 677, texcat wrote:In post 672, farside22 wrote:
Texcat mentions a lot about tree in the post I quoted but vote for aero for an unknown reason.
I typically see that from newbscum. Where you mention a player you don't like but vote the other and the person you have more issue with is your scum buddy.
I mentioned Tree because I had just finished reading 10 pages about Tree. I stated how I felt about the big wagon of the day, that I didn't understand or like the double claim, but didn't see it as particularly scummy. I then voted Aero, who I do find scummy, based on his interactions with Elyse, as I thought I had clearly stated.
Your voting based on some crap rule about mentioning one player and voting another is just that, crap.
I'm voting you because (1) I don't know what you find scummy and (2) asking a wifom question about a player you didn't state a scum read on but imply possible scum motive.
In post 813, Psyche wrote:i can't believe anyone could be so aggressively stupid
In post 818, Majiffy wrote:In post 816, Psyche wrote:and i just don't understand how you can so consistently go around having confident reads when every time ive encountered them in the wild they've sucked
Would you prefer I use a less successful playstyle?
I'm not going to dumb down my game just because I have a few bad reads.
How's your success record?
In post 860, tn5421 wrote:In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.
But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
What happens if Tree flips town?
Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.
In post 847, Psyche wrote:sigh, reinoe
just because he knows how to spell obfuscate doesn't mean he's competent at word-fu
In post 864, tn5421 wrote:In post 863, farside22 wrote:In post 860, tn5421 wrote:In post 859, Aeronaut wrote:In post 851, Majiffy wrote:Maybe you missed the part where he's compromising with me on Tree today.
But that would require reading the thread, something a good percentage of this game apparently has no idea how to do.
What happens if Tree flips town?
Then we lose a VI; no big deal in my opinion.
If I wAnted a vi lynch I'd vote you or Pere first.
>ignores known gambit whore
>ignores bullshit IC / dayvig claim
>would rather push town and some dude named Pear (sry peregrine)
>k
In post 871, Majiffy wrote:In post 861, farside22 wrote:
Let's talk about 2 games we were both in here for a moment.
Bel game you listed in tha games pants, Anatole, messiah and me as scum.
Only one out if four was correct.
Next let's talk reck game.
Oversoul, hoopla, bob and chamber. You also voted Mollie that game.
So out of that 2 scum reads were correct.
Which Bel game? Flying Aces? The one I was lynched D1 in?
My primary scumread was scum. God forbid some of my other scumreads are town on D1!I bet you're flawless.
Next, Reck's game. Killed N2. 2/5 scumreads correct.
Also not bad. Oh right, one of those scumreads that was right, I was pushing D1.
Huh. Look at that.
Major pushes, D1, both flipped scum.
Discredit me more.
In post 861, farside22 wrote:
That's means you current scum read which last I looked had me , pyche, tree, aero (did I miss someone?) are scum. Since I recall both games early calls as pushing logic like you are and they were wrong please lynch me so people don't listen to you till you stop the over the top actions.
My primary reads are Tree and Psyche.
So if we go with my history of primary reads D1 flipping scum, just like the two examples you gave, then maybe you should listen a little more.
Unless you want to ignore your own examples. I mean, that's probably going to happen. Cuz why not, yeah?
Must suck when shit blows back in your face.
In post 873, Majiffy wrote:
Then we look at the interactions with the wagon.
Like you do with any flip from anyone in any game.
In post 885, Psyche wrote:farside,
that's not the argument to push
everyone gets reads wrong
and a lot of people get reads right
the issue is overconfidence with respect to a read based on OMGUS, inactivity and premature, circular association tells
In post 887, Majiffy wrote:In post 881, farside22 wrote:
Let's see early in bel's game was shir and then messiah after arguing with me for pages.
As for recks game your first vote was oversoul?
Yup it was
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
He wasn't scum. You can call is a slap if reality that your first read isn't sheep able to me.
Your first serious vote in Aces was on me.
Your first serious vote in Warfare was Vezok. Followed by Agar.
Neither flipped red.
Do you really want to keep going with this ludicrous argument?
The final conclusion is to throw our hands in the air and say fuck it because obviously it's impossible to hit scum D1.
Elyse wrote:Farside are you only voting tex for piggybacking on my exchange with Aero?
Cause that's horrible if you are and it's not scummy for tex to do that at all. Like is he supposed to make up reasons that aren't there or something? It's not like he's been doing that the whole time and will continue to do that.
Also where is tree? I had a townread on him but it's fading.
Scumreads right now in order are: Aeronaut, farside, Titus, Oka, Psyche (mostly gut and his Majiffy unvote was gross)
I don't like Aegor or something like that either but he doesn't have enough content for a full out scumread.
In post 892, Psyche wrote:ughhh
unvote
you just said it
majiffy is exactly that sort of person who would push a shitty tree lynch
In post 897, Majiffy wrote:Sure lets all sit here and twiddle our thumbs for the next four days while we wait for siteflaked Tree to get replaced or modkilled.
Because, like, everyone deserves a chance! You're always a winner as long as youtry!
In post 902, Majiffy wrote:In post 900, farside22 wrote:Like I said I fought for pages with him.
He truely see's nothing wrong with what he says.
Neither does anyone else. Except for {Psyche, Aero, farside}.
Hm.
In post 1009, Alina wrote:...I think for once I'm one of the more sane people in the room
I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing yet
Pedit: that's nice and all but ugh forget it it's not even worth it. Like. It shouldn't matter. Lynching Someone You Think Is Scum >>>>>> Lynching Someone You Think Is Town And Having Majiffy Praise You
Do you think VI's can't be scum?
