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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:35 am

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In post 773, Majiffy wrote:
Read the thread. You're asking redundant questions at this point.

I already read the thread. The issue is that your claims are not directly supportable at all and rest on ever-more-tenuous assertions.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:37 am

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I think you read the wrong thread
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:38 am

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Nope; I remember your utter uselessness quite well.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:38 am

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In post 776, notscience wrote:I think you read the wrong thread
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:39 am

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Utter uselessness yet better reads

mhm.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:39 am

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In post 775, Aegor wrote:
In post 773, Majiffy wrote:
Read the thread. You're asking redundant questions at this point.

I already read the thread. The issue is that your claims are not directly supportable at all and rest on ever-more-tenuous assertions.

Please directly quote all of my not-directly-supportable claims and my ever-tenuous assertions.
Be so kind as to also provide arguments supporting your positions on aforementioned claims and assertions.


I imagine this won't take long or be much work considering this thread is "not content-heavy".
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:40 am

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Majiffy

I'll compromise on Tree

but Titus gets lynched tomorrow

deal?
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:42 am

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Mebbe.

If Tree flips strong PR scum then it'll have to be D3 on Titus because I am going to choo choo mutherfugger on Psyche for the chainsaw.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:43 am

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In post 780, Majiffy wrote:
In post 775, Aegor wrote:
In post 773, Majiffy wrote:
Read the thread. You're asking redundant questions at this point.

I already read the thread. The issue is that your claims are not directly supportable at all and rest on ever-more-tenuous assertions.

Please directly quote all of my not-directly-supportable claims and my ever-tenuous assertions.
Be so kind as to also provide arguments supporting your positions on aforementioned claims and assertions.


I imagine this won't take long or be much work considering this thread is "not content-heavy".

They culminate in the post I quoted and began in earnest with your speculation about tree's motivation, which was rightly criticized by Psyche et al. As far as I am concerned, there is no case whatsoever on tree that has any real legitimacy stemming from his gambits, and yet some now feel comfortable asserting he could be a scum PR and two other players are protecting scumbuddies.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:44 am

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I can deal with that.

I really just think Psyche is distracting town though.

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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:52 am

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In post 783, Aegor wrote:
In post 780, Majiffy wrote:
In post 775, Aegor wrote:
In post 773, Majiffy wrote:
Read the thread. You're asking redundant questions at this point.

I already read the thread. The issue is that your claims are not directly supportable at all and rest on ever-more-tenuous assertions.

Please directly quote all of my not-directly-supportable claims and my ever-tenuous assertions.
Be so kind as to also provide arguments supporting your positions on aforementioned claims and assertions.


I imagine this won't take long or be much work considering this thread is "not content-heavy".

They culminate in the post I quoted and began in earnest with your speculation about tree's motivation, which was rightly criticized by Psyche et al. As far as I am concerned, there is no case whatsoever on tree that has any real legitimacy stemming from his gambits, and yet some now feel comfortable asserting he could be a scum PR and two other players are protecting scumbuddies.

You know I cleaned my glasses, bumped up the brightness and contrast on my monitor, but I'm still not seeing any direct quotes here.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:24 pm

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In post 716, tn5421 wrote:
In post 710, Majiffy wrote:
In post 703, tn5421 wrote:
Is nobody going to comment on how Titus was using The Light to keep up-to-date on the game without being required to participate or having players meta her during and/or slightly after RVS?

I have no idea what the fuck
any
of this is. Or what Titus' whole "I am the light" post was about. I imagine that probably goes for everyone else who is ignoring it.

So why don't you go ahead and explain since you seem to grok it enough to have a problem with it?


Titus wanted to observe us to
gain reads without being required to give any information out in return
. In essence, getting something for nothing.

Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.

If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.



This makes no sense. If Titus as that evil he would just keep the alt.

In post 718, Majiffy wrote:
In post 715, notscience wrote:I didn't like the vote from farside on tex nor did I like the readslist she gave shortly after.

Oka I just feel ike is playing peanut gallery but at the same time just kinda flitting around not really doing anything

I'm not keen on the vote on tex but probably for different reasons.

Which reminds me.
Farside why do you continue to ignore addressing my statement regarding tex/tree?


Oka is most definitely doing that.

In post 716, tn5421 wrote:Titus wanted to observe us to
gain reads without being required to give any information out in return
. In essence, getting something for nothing.

Titus has a fair idea of where we all stand on the current issues and yet we know NOTHING of Titus's reads on us.

If you can't see the problem with this then we might have a bigger problem on our hands.

I don't have an issue with Titus trying out a new playstyle.

There's nothing inherently scummy about playing your cards close to your chest.



I didn't ignore you, I responded in fact. Why did you miss my post. :cry:
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Protip: complaining about me missing it isn't going to make it jump out at me.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:51 pm

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In post 785, Majiffy wrote:You know I cleaned my glasses, bumped up the brightness and contrast on my monitor, but I'm still not seeing any direct quotes here.

You should get your eyesight checked then.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:51 pm

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In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.


This was in regard to you second part issue with tree.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:54 pm

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In post 790, farside22 wrote:
In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.


This was in regard to you second part issue with tree.

InB4 he's a secret Wake alt.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:55 pm

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In post 789, Aegor wrote:
In post 785, Majiffy wrote:You know I cleaned my glasses, bumped up the brightness and contrast on my monitor, but I'm still not seeing any direct quotes here.

You should get your eyesight checked then.

Feel free to super size the quotes to large for me and my old man eyes.

In post 790, farside22 wrote:
In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.


This was in regard to you second part issue with tree.

That doesn't address anything whatsoever.

I'm saying that if you're calling tex scum for associatives that implicate tree, you should have no problem voting tree - the already viable wagon - since tree-town destroys your tex-scum position. You
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:57 pm

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In post 706, Majiffy wrote:
In post 699, farside22 wrote:Who chainsaw defended him?
What's your thought on tex?
I agree with your last 2 but has he been around to post?

Give me a sec.

Psyche and to a lesser extent Aero; have you not been reading?
I don't have a read on tex yet.

He's made posts. Not anything notable, but I noted that he posted.


Pysche disagree's with your points.
Also scum defending scum....this early.....really?what games you see scum defending that hard? No I don't count bel's game as defense that was attacking another player scum reading your scum buddy action.

Aero....I less recall the chainsaw. I read the thread but what I see is everyone needs to sheep you.
Those that don't are defending tree, scum or stupid in your opinion.


Do you think his reads are clearly his view? (In regards to tex) that gets defended but isn't a town read, so why it's a bad vote isn't explained to me yet.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:58 pm

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In post 792, Majiffy wrote:Feel free to super size the quotes to large for me and my old man eyes.

Nah. I assume you are capable of reading my posts; the direct quotations are there. You can have someone dictate to you as needed.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:59 pm

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In post 792, Majiffy wrote:
In post 789, Aegor wrote:
In post 785, Majiffy wrote:You know I cleaned my glasses, bumped up the brightness and contrast on my monitor, but I'm still not seeing any direct quotes here.

You should get your eyesight checked then.

Feel free to super size the quotes to large for me and my old man eyes.

In post 790, farside22 wrote:
In post 700, farside22 wrote:As far as I see jiff he has not posted online since Thursday.
Curious to know if tree has played mafia before this site or is an alt.


This was in regard to you second part issue with tree.

That doesn't address anything whatsoever.

I'm saying that if you're calling tex scum for associatives that implicate tree, you should have no problem voting tree - the already viable wagon - since tree-town destroys your tex-scum position. You
need
treescum for your texscum point to hold any merit.


I said it was a scumtell in one post with a question mark.
No one agreed with my view.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:04 pm

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Why is oka scum not science?
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:10 pm

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In post 793, farside22 wrote:Pysche disagree's with your points.
Also scum defending scum....this early.....really?what games you see scum defending that hard? No I don't count bel's game as defense that was attacking another player scum reading your scum buddy action.

Psyche's "disagreements" are also faulty in their logic.
If Tree is a very strong scum PR, it makes sense to see Psyche go on the active attack and tree to start lurking the wagon away.

In post 793, farside22 wrote:
Aero....I less recall the chainsaw. I read the thread but what I see is everyone needs to sheep you.
Those that don't are defending tree, scum or stupid in your opinion.

Pretty much.

In post 793, farside22 wrote:
Do you think his reads are clearly his view? (In regards to tex) that gets defended but isn't a town read, so why it's a bad vote isn't explained to me yet.

It's a bad vote because it favors trying to start a new wagon while an existing wagon on a person that logically has to be scum to support your position is already existent and viable.

In post 794, Aegor wrote:
In post 792, Majiffy wrote:Feel free to super size the quotes to large for me and my old man eyes.

Nah. I assume you are capable of reading my posts; the direct quotations are there. You can have someone dictate to you as needed.

I have responded to everything so far.

If I missed something, I have already kindly asked you to restate.

If you keep playing stupid, I'll start playing ignore.

In post 795, farside22 wrote:
I said it was a scumtell in one post with a question mark.
No one agreed with my view.

And yet the vote sticks. :neutral:


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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:12 pm

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In post 547, Majiffy wrote:Town

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What im sitting on right now. I may be missing folk.

In post 694, Majiffy wrote:Upon review of the play, the call on the field has been reversed. I no longer townread Oka.

I don't really see anything that screams scum, either, though. Just a whole lot of nothing going on, which might very well be playstyle.


I'm curious what in oka's play changed your views from town to null?


But people agree that Tex is scum just didn't say anything about the team thing.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:13 pm

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Also tying a player with a flip is really fucking shitty wifom logic.
You are tying a player with someone based on rainbow logic and fair farting dust
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