NY 183 - Apocalypse Mafia

[Grib]

PeaceBringer, I will be your friend. Mmkay?

[Grib]

I am not a Serial Killer. I'll look at your ISO.

All of them were on mislynch wagons but I still townread 4/5 of them.

[Grib]

I shot someone, Ricastle. Let's leave it at that.

If no one CC's him, he's probably golden.

[Grib]

There is a very good reason I didn't shoot Night 1.

It's a big game. Why not an Investigative + Protective combo? Plus whatever I am.

[Grib]

You've been pretty obvious about your distinct lack of vanilla.

Traitor + 4 scum? I thought Survivor could be possible, but Survivor + Traitor seems weird.

[Grib]

Also,

Ricastle, are you still scumreading me, or have you given up on that hopeless dream?

[Grib]

Rubicon, I don't know I feel like I'm against the grain and we keep lynching people I don't find scummy and it's tiring.

Wait, you DIDN'T find Xayzeck scummy?

Nero, seeing as Xay was town, what are the reasons you're still townreading Grib?

These seem contradictory.

[Grib]

Yes.

I don't think he's scum for it. I'm just curious.

[Grib]

You've been pretty obvious about your distinct lack of vanilla.

this...

Another point in your favor. <3

[Grib]

Ah. Okay.

[Grib]

Why?

[Grib]

No comment.

[Grib]

Creative was kind of a weird kill, imo. I had a light townread on him.

[Grib]

Creative was kind of a weird kill, imo. I had a light townread on him.

Umm, isn't the idea that Scum kill Townies?

I personally don't think Creative was town enough to warrant being shot. Maybe the mafia were rolehunting, or at least attempting to.

[Grib]

3)

Speaking of Grib, despite my doubts - I'm going to put him in my slight townpile. Assuming he is what he is *hinting* at, then seeing how he's shot scum, and has provided some decent content in the game - I think he may be town... A bit unsure. However, if he's not going to give a definitive claim on his role, I don't want him to make the

*HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION*

of town going into lylo this game.

SIDE NOTE:

Also Grib, did you ever finish ISOing me? Anything you want to say?

You'll get my role once the mafia kill me. It'll confirm the thing I said a while back that's actually a lie but still true.

I have not. Other games have taken priority for the time being.

[Grib]

VOTE: Ricastle

Reasons later.

[Grib]

This Ricastle wagon is scummy as hell.

I agree, and that's actually the reason why I voted. I wanted to see if there would be another pull from the Klingon wagon.

UNVOTE:

Like. It looks like either Klingon is scum, or the scumteam really, really wants her dead. I find the latter unlikely, as they could have shot her instead of Creative. But then again, if we go with the MS wiki definition of a normal Traitor, then Boonskiies would have essentially been leading a lynch on his team, and. That's really annoying to think about.

VOTE: RationalMadman

Let's try this.

[Grib]

Mod: mild V/LA until Monday.

Moving home from college, setting up summer job interviews,

not

catching up on sleep, busy weekend ahead.

[Grib]

Wow, these last five pages are a mess.

Boonskiies looks like he's crumbing Klingon + House mafia, but. It's so blatant, I'm not sure I wanna pursue that.

[Grib]

Ricastle, is the 'what do you think I was softclaiming' question still on the table?

[Grib]

Also, RIP, stop trying to formulate a plan that revolves around my ability. I pave my own path. One way, no brakes.

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Errant: I'm talking about Boon signalling to the scumteam, not the scumteam signaling him.

[Grib]

I got shot in an offsite game that was eating up a lot of my time SO I'M HERE.

What's the word on the block?

[Grib]

God I hate large games, they never seem to end.

[Grib]

Tell me the post.

[Grib]

Her calling your PR weak, then. She probably doesn't need to be at L-1 yet, unless we're all tired of this Day phase.

Man, I wonder what you are and what she thinks you are.

[Grib]

I mean, historically, I've never been especially good at rolehunting. So.

[Grib]

Well since u soft claimed already then tell us what weak role u are. If there's reason to believe she knows ur role then that's a easy kill. She's eother scum and scum have a seer or she's a town seer which it kinda going to suck lol.

Ugh...fine. If Klingon is scum then scum knows my role anyway.

I'm a 2-shot Friendly Neighbor. I targeted Vamp the first night and BagelS the second. Obviously, if Klingon knew I was this or I was crumbing this, she is surefire scum.

Welp. I was off.

...Well, that's SK out of the window.

The Doc must have protected someone fairly townread/obvious. I'd say the most likely of which would have to be me, BagelS, or Nero. I'll see if I can find anything based off of that now.

By the way, I don't really care that Skold flipped town. He brought it on himself as far as I'm concerned.

I thought you were claiming Doc with this post, from the way you seemed so certain the kill was blocked due to a successful protection (instead of, say, Bulletproof/Roleblocker/Jailer/Commuter or something equally plausible), and that one of Bagels or Nero was your target.

[Grib]

These 114 pages are starting to take their toll on me. I apologize for being distant. My townreads are

davesaz
elusive
Rubicon
Ricastle
PointYBagelS
Nero Cain
Errantparabola

in that order. The elusive read feels a little stale, as she's been aggressive but in a more...reactive than active way. If that makes sense. It could also just be the paranoia talking.

Did Klingoncelt deliberately put off her claim for multiple pages? I feel like that was a thing that happened. The VT claim smells a little.

Ricastle, why did you pick Pointy and Vamps?

[Grib]

I know.

I mean, how many times were you asked to claim before you actually did so.

[Grib]

That is not what I'm asking.

Whatever.

[Grib]

I read your analysis of me. The part that jumps out at me is your horrible defense of RM/pisskop as "the Xay wagon all over again." Not very subtle.

My current scum pool:

KlingonCelt
Errantparabola
RIP
Taly
Vampirate
RationalMadman

Has KC claimed? Intent to hammer.

KC, claim.

Nero, I'm not sure what's going on in your head but you'll have to NK me. Come at me bro, or (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-AjsctjklI)
"I hear fairy tales ‘bout how they gon’ run up on me
Well, run up when you see me then and we gon’ see"

RIP, I have no idea why you're confusing me with PB. No clue as to why.

Ricastle, does your role say anything about whether or not you can neighborize scum? Just because in the large normal that just finished (mod by ika) the town neighborizer neighborized one scum so that doesn't in itself clear the people you're neighborizing.

Guys, Nero only re-voted KC. It wasn't a hammer -_-*

KC, please claim.

KC flipping town.

Kling can you please claim ur role?
Any actions before thread is lock

You're not even going to claim, are you...

And Ricastle unnecessarily claimed a weak PR.

The impact of this statement depends on the fact that I claimed/crumbed a specific PR. That's no wording error. And besides, you know how to word posts well enough; that much is evident. Why did you avoid answering my question about this four times?

Nvm, it was a fake hammer.

Still, Nero's a dick for doing it.

You'll see why when he flips.

When

he

flips?

Anyway, please claim immediately.

This is what I'm talking about. You were asked several times to claim, and your reaction to the fakehammer was...

Well since u soft claimed already then tell us what weak role u are. If there's reason to believe she knows ur role then that's a easy kill. She's eother scum and scum have a seer or she's a town seer which it kinda going to suck lol.

Ugh...fine. If Klingon is scum then scum knows my role anyway.

I'm a 2-shot Friendly Neighbor. I targeted Vamp the first night and BagelS the second. Obviously, if Klingon knew I was this or I was crumbing this, she is surefire scum.

I had no clue what you are/were. Just that you were a soft PR.

And you know something else I don't - how do the Scums know your role?

UNVOTE: for now...

She doesn't have to be a Mafia Seer. There just has to be one on her team for the scum scenario to work.

Sorry, not Seer. Rolecop.

Believe me, if I were a Rolecop or on a team with one, Town would be fubar'd.

Ask Taly. In our first game together I successfully rolecopped PRs every night. Each was summarily executed. Scum won that game lol-ing all the way.

vote:Celt

Dick.

Nice hammering before I'm even online, much less on this site.

Nvm, it was a fake hammer.

Still, Nero's a dick for doing it.

You'll see why when he flips.

...to not claim. Even though you thought you were dead.

Why was that?

[Grib]

People, this isn't difficult. I'm wondering why Kllingon put off her claim DESPITE THINKING SHE HAD BEEN HAMMERED, even though it was clearly what town wanted from her.

I'm not asking whether or not she claimed.

[Grib]

I'm asking about something that seemed to be overlooked.

[Grib]

Plus, people misunderstood me the first time I asked, so I was forced to clarify.

[Grib]

Hey pisskop, why is your vote still on Klingon?

[Grib]

Intent to hammer.

Klingon, in addition to my previous question (2848), what are your current reads? For posterity.

[Grib]

Oh, and I also want pisskop to answer my question before Night.

[Grib]

VOTE: Klingoncelt

I'm not willing to vote the Pointy counterwagon today.

If she flips town I'd look at RIP, Taly, Vampirate, and Errant. Maybe pisskop.

PeaceBringer: please track someone from this list.

[Grib]

Actually, I take that back. Use your best judgement.

[Grib]

Patience.

[Grib]

Mess up your quote tags there, Nero?

[Grib]

Are you waiting for Klingon to post reads, Grib?

Yes, considering dave is town and all of her recent posts were tunneling on Ricastle.

[Grib]

People, this isn't difficult. I'm wondering why Kllingon put off her claim DESPITE THINKING SHE HAD BEEN HAMMERED, even though it was clearly what town wanted from her.

I'm not asking whether or not she claimed.

This is good

2 thoughts:

If she was hammered there's no reason to claim. Everyone will see soon enough.

I saw through the fake hammer immediately, I doubt I was the only one. Klingon may have seen through it as well.

Klingon is still scum but this isn't great reasoning.

If you look at her posts, she definitely thought she had been hammered.

People had been asking for her to claim for pages, so there's that.

[Grib]

Hesitating to claim when you're about to be lynched looks scummy, but not always, since power roles feel like they're dead either way once they've claimed, be it lynch or NK.

But Klingon claimed Vanilla, which. Isn't really something that warrants hesitation if you're town.

[Grib]

This is what I'm talking about. You were asked several times to claim, and your reaction to the fakehammer was...


...to not claim. Even though you thought you were dead.

Why was that?

Because I was massively pissed off and because I claimed already.

No, you claimed a page

after

everything I quoted.

Anyway, reads, pretty please.

[Grib]

There are no Neighbors.

[Grib]

Klingon, your last readslist was posted 600 posts ago. Are you sure there isn't anything you want to reevaluate?

[Grib]

You have davesaz as your next biggest scumread after Ricastle. They're both town.

[Grib]

PB, state your results.

[Grib]

I will never get over the Traitor thing. It's sorry dumb. It's so useless looking at interactions and votes for someone the mafia didn't even know was mafia.

Rubicon and elusive make me sad. I might actually have to pursue one of their deaths. elusive feels more accusatory (scummy) than predatory (town), but I still want to think she's town for the way her posts are structured? And Rubicon's reads have matched mine through most of the game (although he has definitely given honest town/scumreads as scum in the past).

Also I'm kind if really mad at myself. I had the chance to prevent the NK last Night (it was between Ricastle, the townfirm-turned-Vanilla, and PB, a PR capable of actually catching the scum doing the killing), and I chose PB. Muh bluh.

Actual posts, self-inflicted paranoia, and questioning my reads and lifestyle choices later when I can find a computer.

[Grib]

It's so dumb.*

What is my phone doing.

[Grib]

(Also, reasons why grib would have been so dead by now if I were scum.)

Okay that makes me feel a little better.

Except. I was townreading you. So.

[Grib]

Oh but then our reads have been similar.

Maybe you're not scum and I'm just being silly.

[Grib]

I think I'm pretty town without a claim, so I'll be holding off on that.

Gotta keep the scumteam on their toes, since they've graciously allowed me to live this long.

[Grib]

Honestly, I think scum probably shot a BP N1. Or something where it's impossible to determine who did the shooting. I can't imagine why someone would keep that kind of information quiet for this long.

[Grib]

I'm here, but it's bedtime so I'll post when I rise.

[Grib]

Rubicon, are you scum with elusive? I need to know.

Although I think I'd vote PB over her.

[Grib]

Oh, I'm just worried about Rubicon coaching you, is all.

[Grib]

[Grib]

I think you cleared yourself, Vamp, and Errant.

[Grib]

Also since I guess Rubicon knows Things I guess that makes him town.

I'd vote pisskop.

[Grib]

Oh, RIP should actually claim if he has clears on people.

[Grib]

How many PRs are standard in a game this size?

[Grib]

Happy birthday, Shinobi!

VOTE: RIP

[Grib]

I believe in you, dave.

[Grib]

I'm looking at these names:

RIP
Errantparabola
pisskop
Taly

I'm open to lynching any of those four right now.

(y)

[Grib]

My role has one more protective ability left so if you have checks, then yes, RIP, you should definitely claim.

[Grib]

Trust? In

my

mafia game?

[Grib]

U have lots of powers grib lol... Not sure if serious

I know, I love my role.

[Grib]

I mean, why waste everyone's time getting you to L-1? If you're a town PR who can clear other people, speak up. I got your back.

[Grib]

Hello. I got poked.

To be honest I cross replaced into this game so I'm kinda meh on it. I'll catch up and share my thoughts.

Well, you haven't helped it much.

[Grib]

Also you seem to be speaking in a way that distances yourself form your predecessors.

[Grib]

Oh, yeah, if you're a limited role like that, now's the perfect time to claim, since you're vanilla and you getting shot wouldn't be anything especially awful.

But uh. The Vamp thing is weird.

[Grib]

UNVOTE:

[Grib]

Okay, I have to ask.

Did you not check Vamp? Or was your check interfered with?

[Grib]

What is there to distance myself from?

@RIP

So what if you voted my slot before I placed in? Why did you vote before and recently?

Also

unvote

You replaced Kitz, who did basically nothing up until she was replaced. Her replacements haven't been especially towny, either.

[Grib]

Correction:

your original slot was Kitz. I know you didn't replace her directly. But yeah.

[Grib]

Vote Count

pisskop

(6):

Nero Cain, PointYBagelS, Rubicon, PeaceBringer, elusive, RIP

PeaceBringer

(2):

Vampirate, pisskop

RIP

(1):

davesaz

Not Voting

(3):

Errantparabola, Taly, Grib

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-06-06 02:00:00)

This wagon suddenly looks a little better.

[Grib]

So what would I distance myself from, Grib?

From scummy predecessors?

I don't know. I'm just saying the suspicion on you isn't uncalled for.

[Grib]

Grib, do you think RIP is telling the truth?

Lemme hear his explanation for Vamp.

Also I could just leave him vulnerable toNight and see what happens.

[Grib]

So.

pisskop lynch?

[Grib]

You mean everyone hasn't figured out my role and exact Night actions yet?

[Grib]

Eh, sure.

I'm a JOAT. dave never townslipped; I Cop'd him N1. I shot Boonskiies N2. I protected PB N3. And I have one more protective ability that's slightly different from the one I just used, so that's neat.

[Grib]

If Rubicon were scum, I think he'd have shot me, since he appears to be the only person to have picked up on my crumb.

[Grib]

Grib, on a scale from 1-10 confidence how confirmed town is davesaz? I had him as townish early on, but he's been coasting a lot day 2.

Players posting a lot day one and then starting to lurk is a firm scum tell.

Forget I said that part.

10

Like come on.

[Grib]

I really, really want post 3333.

[Grib]

Yay.

[Grib]

I mean.

I agree with him.

[Grib]

Maybe all the town PRs are X-shot, which. He didn't claim. So that could be a possible thing.

[Grib]

JOAT > all X-shots
Friendly Neighbor > 2-shot
Cop > 2 shot
Tracker > full?

[Grib]

I already have a townread on you, so I'm not gonna read a post about why you're scum to determine if I agree or disagree with it unless you really want me to.

Hang on while I go over your post on elusive.

[Grib]

If I absolutely had to, I'd lynch elusive after the other three are dead, Vamp.

Actually there has to be another PR to explain the no kill.

Wow, I nearly forgot about that.

I think they should claim now if they're one of the suspected, or if, say, a Doctor protected one of the suspected from getting shot.

Otherwise, if you're already being townread, eh.

[Grib]

It's just. A really strong meta read, and I'm having a tough time looking past that.

bluh

[Grib]

inb4 the scumteam collectively forgot to submit the N1 kill and coast on a fakeclaim

[Grib]

That's an interesting theory.

And would make Boons' bussing of KC that much more hilarious.

[Grib]

He did it a little too much.

[Grib]

Also if the scumteam recruited him personally, he probably wouldn't have done that.

[Grib]

You sure are a fan of ellipses, PB.

[Grib]

Pagetop!

[Grib]

Are you just going to avoid elaborating on Vamp or what.

[Grib]

Well this is interesting.

[Grib]

ika is at L-1, for those of you possibly not paying attention.

I guessed from my role that there wouldn't be a Serial Killer or another Vig, especially after no other shots went off except mine and the mafia's. I don't know if that means there also isn't another Doctor/Cop/[redacted]. Eh.

I think RIP is implying he hasn't used his second shot yet, in which case I'll help him survive the Night and if he doesn't deliver, he's probably a lying liar who lies.

[Grib]

Good point. The slot's had four replacements, and none of them have really done anything to be townread.

At some point you've got to call a duck a duck.

[Grib]

Like if that slot is town, that's kind of horrible.

[Grib]

ika ika bo bika
banana fana fo fika
me my mo mika
ika

Where are you?

[Grib]

I'll hammer in a couple hours.

Maybe less.

[Grib]

VOTE: ika

Moving on.

[Grib]

The scumteam needs to stop shooting into the Commuter/Bulletproof/Doc protect/whatever it is they keep doing.

RIP, anything you want to share?

BBT, hi. Be town please.

[Grib]

Honestly, I thought I was going to die and have more time for other things. >_>

Oh well!

[Grib]

Yup.

[Grib]

Grib, can you update me on the current game state please?

Eh, I'm gonna be at work all day with no internet, so you're probably better off straight reading the thread.

[Grib]

It is! It's also a lot to summarize.

Apparently the only PR the scumteam wanted dead was Ricastle, and this is the second time they've failed to kill anyone.

[Grib]

No evidence of a Serial Killer.

[Grib]

I had a One-Shot Cop ability and used it on dave.

[Grib]

Also I'm not working today anymore! So now we can bond.

[Grib]

Honestly, I thought Pointy had some pretty bad interactions with Kitzslot.

Search this topic for 'Kitz' and then control + F Pointy. He calls her out so many times but never really means it.

I'd like a second opinion on this.

[Grib]

Wait, I just remembered I gathered the quotes overNight:

Kitz may actually be my first scumread for her coasty fluffposting. RVS is long over.

I actually might be interested in seeing a kitz wagon, but I'm content to stay where I am for now. At least until davesaz gives us the post he promised in 173.

5: I'd like to see more posts from kitz. She's posted very little of substance so far, and that worries me.

Kitz you have not voted at all. Why?

Someone get me caught the fuck up because 30 pages will take a long time for me

Half of it is filler.

Including just about everything you've posted.

@pb, why? Also, top scum-reads?

Most of Skold's questionable actions seem more like poor play than scummy play, as I've said in earlier posts. Working on this assumption, I think if Skold was scum it would be more obvious. Even if he arrives at odd conclusions, Skold's motivations seem to be much more based on the intent to scumhunt than the intent to misdirect.

As for scumreads, my vote is currently on Vampirate so I obviously find him (or rather his slot) scummy.

I also don't like the way that House seems to be trying to take control of the game, but I get the impression he does that in every game anyway. Still, I don't like the way he just dismissed the Vampriate wagon without really giving a reason other than "I think he's town so he's town".

I don't like the way Kitz is playing but again I get the impression she does that in every game. Day 1 may be not that useful in and of itself, but not contributing to it makes it impossible, later in the game, to read past actions based on new information. I'll be watching her because even if it is her general meta, it is a good way to conceal information.

I'm still relatively null on Klingon and Errant but I think there's a chance one or both of them are scum as well.

The underlined is just a bonus.

Though for the record I'm not too opposed to a Kitz wagon either. The lack of content in her posts is disturbing and very anti-town.

Wow, that triple negative is both impossible to read and means the opposite of what it was supposed to. To clarify: I think Kitz might be an "easy lynch".

Like. Come on. It looks like textbook coaching/distancing.

[Grib]

Plus, the way Pointy was posing himself to be the Hammer and parroted Nero here reeks of fishing for towncred:

ika is still posting it up site wide, one of you guys just need to hammer.

Anyone else find it odd that ika is posting elsewhere but not here, despite being at L-1?

Intent to Hammer within (expired on 2015-06-03 02:00:00)

Assuming ika doesn't post before then and that nobody beats me to it.

Well then. Guess that works too.

He posted multiple times elsewhere after I put up the countdown. I don't know how much more threatening I can get...

Now to see the flip I guess.

[Grib]

So I took a gander at Boon and while he didn't vote anyone else

I think this is House vs Nero is town v town. I feel I'm pretty good at figuring out if House is scum, ain't that right, buddy?

this right here is alarm bells.

He also joked around calling Kitz scum early on and later got her replacement, RMM, mixed up with House. That would make sense if both slots were...

the same alignment

!

What do you say to that, RIP?!

Also this could be a Thing w/r/t RIP, since his claim is a little fishy.

[Grib]

Maybe.

VOTE: Pointy[/b]

[Grib]

Just kidding.

VOTE: Pointy

[Grib]

Buuut.

[Grib]

Why Vamp over Pointy if you think both should die?

[Grib]

It always boggles me when people try to get one particular scumread lynched over the other one.

Unless you know Vamp has a better scum power or something, I don't see why it matters.

[Grib]

So.

Did the rest of the team just.

Sit on their hands.

Or.

[Grib]

elusive > no claim
Nero Cain > no claim
Grib > JOAT
davesaz > no claim (confirmed town)
PeaceBringer > Tracker
Rubicon > VT
PointYBagelS > no claim
Vampirate > no claim
Taly > no claim
RIP > 2-shot Cop
BlueBloodedToffee > no claim

[Grib]

You can claim while you're here, BBT.

[Grib]

The rest of the team is dead. 4 scum is standard for a large normal of this size.

3 normal scum + Traitor?

That sounds awful.

[Grib]

Oh well.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Taly

I'm curious as to what happened Night 1.

[Grib]

dave!

I know you're town but still, claim.

[Grib]

Ha, there is a Doc! I thought it was Ricastle before he claimed.

It'd be nice to know who was protected Night 1.

[Grib]

Finally, people can stop scumreading elusive.

[Grib]

elusive > no claim
Nero Cain > beautiful VT
Grib > JOAT
davesaz > confirmed VT
PeaceBringer > Tracker
Rubicon > beautiful VT

PointYBagelS > no claim
Vampirate > no claim
Taly > no claim

RIP > 2-shot Cop
BlueBloodedToffee > beautiful, beautiful Doc

[Grib]

Let's lynch all three of them.

[Grib]

Also, I decided I didn't believe RIP and saved my last ability. Yay.

It's a Guard, so if my target gets shot I die instead.

[Grib]

Oops, that's Nero.

elusive > beautiful VT

Nero Cain > no claim

Grib > JOAT
davesaz > confirmed VT
PeaceBringer > Tracker
Rubicon > beautiful VT

PointYBagelS > no claim
Vampirate > no claim
Taly > no claim

RIP > 2-shot Cop
BlueBloodedToffee > beautiful, beautiful Doc

[Grib]

UNVOTE:

[Grib]

Isn't it great.

[Grib]

I hope Vampirate didn't come here to yell at elusive and then get spooked off when the Doc revealed he probably stopped her from dying N1.

[Grib]

I'm VT

Obviously not a fan of people suggesting I be the lynch and to be honest grib I don't think my interactions with kitz make much of a case.

Vampirate might be scum. I think elusive had a descent case against him, and the lack of any scum votes on the slot day 1 is suspect.

Not going to lie, taly looks like an easy lynch but both of the last scum were (to an extent) so meh.

I guess I'd be fine with a vampirate or taly vote today. Hopefully taly starts posting though...

I definitely think that if Taly and Vampirate don't end the game, you can die right after them.

[Grib]

What other evidence?

[Grib]

Is that what they're calling it these days?

[Grib]

What other evidence?

Well the fact that I was a relatively early Klingon voter for one. After a quick vote for Peacebringer I pretty much sheeped Ricastle all day, considering that Klingon flipped scum this seems like odd behavior for a teammate of hers.

I guess this is okay for now.

The fact that I was a counterwagon to Klingon doesn't help your case either, though it would require Errant, RIP, elusive, or peace to be scum.

But this is not.

Taly, Pisskop, and I have all been Klingon counterwagons. I think that gives me a slight townlean for them.

[Grib]

I'm just saying, you're living on borrowed time.

I'll feel dumb for accusing you once we lynch them and the game ends. Otherwise, I'm coming for you.

[Grib]

@Grib: Do you believe KC actually knew Ricastle's role? Or do you believe she made that up?

Why does that matter?

[Grib]

Nero is townier than Taly, so he doesn't have to claim first.

[Grib]

@Grib: Do you believe KC actually knew Ricastle's role? Or do you believe she made that up?

Why does that matter?

Considering that's what Peace was going at me before in the previous day I think it does. Peace voted me on the belief that scum knew KCs role based on her comments towards him.

If I get lynched and flip town than people should decide if they want to go after a Peace or Pointy wagon. I already mentioned how I thought Peace was scummy in the previous day phase.

I mean. Yeah, scum knew KC's role. Do you mean Ricastle?

I literally have no way of knowing whether or not the scumteam knew his role.

[Grib]

I could believe there's a Rolecop in play.

KC does as KC is wont to do.

[Grib]

Why would the scumteam shoot Boonskiies N1?

[Grib]

Yeah, but he was also pretty mislynchable.

[Grib]

If this game is normal and uses the normal standards for a Traitor, then

'A Traitor cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and is killed if shot.'

And if they're immune to the NK, they should be Bulletproof.

So.

[Grib]

Yeah, but he was also pretty mislynchable.

Who are you referring to here?

Boon.

[Grib]

And when I say Bulletproof, it means he should have flipped Bulletproof Traitor.

So elusive was probably shot N1.

[Grib]

It's Buttercup from the Powerpuff Girls.

There was an episode where they wanted to dress up like other heroes (although Buttercup's inspiration may have been a villain, I can't recall).

[Grib]

Wow, that sucks.

[Grib]

Nero doesn't even read my posts but wants me dead, breathtaking. Wait until I get to post game comment. I mean there are no rules post game, right? It's all over and done with?

The rule is write out everything you want to say on Word, wait a day or so, and then decide if you still want to post it.

[Grib]

Kill the PoE group.

I don't particularly care about the order.

[Grib]

Cop, Vig, Doc, Guard

[Grib]

It's like Doc, except I die if my target gets shot.

[Grib]

Which is obviously why I saved it for last.

Just in case.

[Grib]

That's a good point.

I just have a hard time believing that you aren't scumbuddies with Kitzslot. It just looks so bad.

[Grib]

Is this going to be Kitzslot all over again.

[Grib]

VOTE: Drixx

Friendly L-3 nudge.

[Grib]

elusive > VT
Nero Cain > VT
Grib > JOAT
davesaz > VT
PeaceBringer > Tracker
Rubicon > VT
PointYBagelS > VT
Vampirate > VT
Taly > VT
RIP > 2-shot Cop
BlueBloodedToffee > Doc

davesaz (N1 Cop check), BBT (Doc, softclears elusive by saving her from the N1 kill), elusive (see BBT), Rubicon (knew I was a Cop, didn't kill me), Nero (killing scum enthusiastically) and I (JOAT, cleared a townie, shot a scum) are all town. Everyone else is lynchable.

[Grib]

I like your username, Drixx. What's it from?

[Grib]

Sheeping Rubicon.

[Grib]

That's L-1.

[Grib]

Hm, we still have twelve days.

Drixx, if you're town, how much reading do you think you can do in, let's say, eleven days?

[Grib]

Before we lynch Drixx or myself BlueBlooded, Grib and Peace should agree to the plan of action Pointy brought up.

This.

Peace is confirmable.

Grib guards BBT
Peace tracks BBT

BBT waits to see Peace's result before coming out and saying who he visited.


Scum tracker is still possible but it would prove whether or not Peace really is one.

Grib, Blue, Peace, thughts?

Yeah, I can do that.

[Grib]

But I want to know about your name before you die. :(

[Grib]

Scum!RIP would fake a check on someone instead of claiming to get no result.

Yes/no? Would he be worried about clearing someone and narrowing the mislynch pool?

[Grib]

awaits the gospel of rubicon

[Grib]

someone called for a cute person?

(fluffy fluffpost, RIP please do something so we can all get on with our lives)

[Grib]

so

who wants to play cards?

[Grib]

And we kind of need him to elaborate on what exactly happened.

This isn't something he should have to be asked to do.

[Grib]

Had an episode of Autonomic Dysreflexia this evening so I'm pretty knackered and will resume tomorrow.

I googled autonomic dysreflexia and it sounds pretty bad. Hope you're okay.

+1

[Grib]

((el toooo))

[Grib]

Sure, why not.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RIP

[Grib]

Emergencies aside, I literally cannot comprehend not dumping Night info during, like. A lunch break. Or a bathroom break.

Or when you're actually here in the thread making vague posts that don't really tell us anything except that you're probably not what you claimed?

fake edit: you bring out the best in me.

[Grib]

I think we'd make a good PPG team.

[Grib]

Quick, everyone pick your PPG character.

[Grib]

I think you just really want him to be pink.

[Grib]

So, I lied. I only have three powers. The Guard was a bluff to fuck with scum.

Like I'd really have two protective abilities. Even without a claimed Doc that would sound incredibly fake.

Anyway, I doubt everyone would buy 'oh I decided not to use my ability again! ha ha silly me' and I'm kind of ready for this game to be over.

Also, weren't we supposed to be clearing PeaceBringer? I 'protect' BBT, BBT protects someone and PB has to tell us who BBT visited.

And then PB comes in with a 'nowhere' on Taly of all people?

[Grib]

I mean it's pointless now since BBT revealed he protected Rubicon, but.

???

[Grib]

I thought the last scum /could/ use their power + NK if they're the last one alive? Usually if there's more than one they have to delegate?

[Grib]

I lied because I've used up all my powers, but only I knew that. It has the same effect since scum are going to assume I'm trueclaiming and shoot someone else.

[Grib]

Also, I was quite clearly not going to protect you last Night since we planned on clearing PB, and that involved making sure the Doc lived through the Night.

And BBT was supposed to protect someone random and force PB to claim the target.

So you could have been shot last Night, when you were actually publicly vulnerable, but you weren't.

[Grib]

>complains about oldness
>has an avatar of a wrinkly old man

[Grib]

Was it discussed today?

Is my memory that bad???

[Grib]

I thought an entire Day and Night cycle had gone by with BBT in the game that never actually happened. That's so bad. I think the phases are starting to blend together.

Wow.

Also I'm not throwing anything at BBT? Just you. But that's because I'm a moron, so. Please ignore that.

[Grib]

I am always town.

[Grib]

Why would a town role use an action on RIP that would render his role useless? He's better off getting shot and being townfirmed instead of having his check wasted and looking like a fakeclaimer?

[Grib]

Like.

I don't think town!Nero would lie about being a Commuter? Like, you lie and say you're a full Commuter, not an X-Shot. Scum aren't going to fuck with you.

Why would a Jailkeeper block RIP? That makes everything pointless.

What scum role is there that isn't a Roleblocker but can prevent Nero from being checked, or RIP form using his power?

It's much, much more likely that one of them is a lying liar who lies.

Also, dave is a townfirm, be nice to him.

[Grib]

I looked on the wiki, and literally the only possibility /aside from one of Nero or RIP being a lying scumbag/ is that there's a scum Rolestooper in play, who effectively targets someone and turns them into as Ascetic Bulletproof for the Night.

That's probably not a Thing this game. It's considered normal, but I've never heard of nor seen a Rolestopper.

Or there's a mechanic where the last scum inherits a power role from their dead teammates? Although the only useful one would be the Roleblock.

Easiest explanation is that one of Nero or RIP is lying and we should lynch one of them either toDay or toMorrow. I don't know why he's trying to come after me. Being jealous of my powers doesn't make me scum.

[Grib]

ROLESTOPPER

not stooper

[Grib]

No.

[Grib]

Can someone tell me why the slot I replaced into was being wagoned and why RIP just voted me after I asked to have time to share my thoughts, and then said someone else should be lynched?

I think you replaced Taly? And Taly was flaking sitewide throughout the Night, and there was a No Kill.

Rubicon thinks your slot is the last scum and didn't submit a kill last Night. The other options are that scum deliberately didn't kill, or they shot Rubicon who was protected by BBT.

[Grib]

RIP wants to kill me and Nero's been a bud all game so I'm going to leave my vote on RIP.

[Grib]

Two mafia Roleblockers would be dumb.