NY 189 - Flower Viewing Festival [~fin~]

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:53 pm

In post 1855, Firebringer wrote:Ika always hammers.

That's not what i meant!

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:58 pm

Well i trust Echo, he gave us a scum lynch.

Vote: Flubber

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:02 pm

In post 1868, Salamence20 wrote:What about me sakura-chan?

You're a silly flower.
And you shot Banana :<
I still trust you tho!

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:31 pm

As Thor used to tell me, if you think scum is busing then let them bus.
I really dont see what's the big deal with who started the wagon, but what i mentioned D2 is still true, while Echo's case sucked, if he hadn't brought it up we probably would have forgotten about tn for another DP, and he literally had no reason to do that to a buddy.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:33 pm

I think arguing over who's scum busing on tn wagon right now is pointless, it may be useful later down the road if we run out of PoE lynches, but for now i want to think that no one's busing and im happy with that. Arguing amongst ourselves is what scum wants, don't forget.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:46 pm

Ugh this is giving me flashbacks to Saki Achiga, last day where everyone kept arguing despite we having PoE'd scum out and some ppl that were actually town kept throwing crap at the confirmed/strong townreads. I don't really want something like that to happen i want us to unite.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:23 pm

In post 1936, Firebringer wrote:want to give me anyone to specifically to ISO?

In post 1842, Sakura Hana wrote:We got flipped scum.
You could start there.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:26 pm

That too

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:32 pm

V/LA until friday, possibly sooner.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:14 am

People dont read EBWOPs lately?

In post 1982, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 1981, Salamence20 wrote:Flubber is scum too, trying to paint SK paranoia still.

EWBOP

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:08 pm

Vote: Flubber

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:09 pm

Ok yeah, that probably won't work...

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:58 pm

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Ricastle-Not much to go on.

Did you really read the thread?

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:01 pm

Ummm

In post 1585, Ricastle wrote:I'm the other Mason. Now fuck off.

Yeah i dont think even skimming you would miss something like that.

Vote: Fire

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:03 pm

You had the ability to be perfectly genuine sounding in Disney.
I dont get the same feeling here.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:05 pm

In post 2116, Spiffeh wrote:Sakura pisskop who else do you think is scum?

I would have to get ahold of stuff, i've been mostly busy these last few days, i just saw the thing about ricastle and Firebringer saying he was null.
Also i agree with you about the possible fake townslip.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:09 pm

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura puts up a horrible vote

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura reads besides tn seem bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:I disagree with sakura 237 post volume tends to correlate with alignment in most cases

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura unvote of Fro99er for him flailing is bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura hana explanation of meta by tn is bad as mentioned by Fro99er though.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura post 379 is pretty bad

Conclusion:

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Sakura-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.

:^)
Get rekt

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:14 pm

i think that's L-2
Or rather L-1 since ika's in ths game.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:15 pm

Btw, what i posted earlier was Ctrl+F my name on Fire's notes, wanting to know where he got the townread since im wary of buddying... my surprise was that... all his posts contradicted with said read.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:17 pm

In post 2139, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2138, Sakura Hana wrote:Btw, what i posted earlier was Ctrl+F my name on Fire's notes, wanting to know where he got the townread since im wary of buddying... my surprise was that... all his posts contradicted with said read.

I can disagree and think you are town. Disagreements doesn't equate to scum reading someone.

Did i say it was about the read? I didn't
You label all my posts as bad.
Your read says you like my posts.

Do you like bad posts then?

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:19 pm

Ok i guess i did mention contradict with the read.
Either way i was referring to the reason pointed as "I like what i see"

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:39 pm

In post 2151, Salamence20 wrote:SKmence would have taken potshots on Sakura right now

You mean you would have NK'd me?

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:41 pm

In post 2159, Salamence20 wrote:Yes if I was SK.

Id be shooting town as SK, its how I work on EM

Dunno if you realize this, but that actually makes me very happy.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:49 pm

In post 2163, Salamence20 wrote:Why?

Will probably talk about it postgame.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:51 pm

Well idk.
Maybe it doesn't mean anything.
But it's the first time in my life someone has considered me a threat enough to NK me.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:04 pm

It's not like this is Town of Salem or anything.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:13 pm

In post 2179, Firebringer wrote:Revealing as BP when I thought I wasn't shot yet, IS STUPID.

I don't think the mafia would've shot you.
Someone claimed vigi has asked you to claim.
That claimed vigi was also scumreading your slot since D2 (or maybe even earlier).
It doesn't take long to put 2 and 2 together.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Either way, the reluctance to claim is null imo, seems more likely to come from ignorance.
The problem is with his actual readthrough of the thread, his notes, and his list of reads which don't add up and even contradict.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:50 pm

In post 2192, Davsto wrote:It says "publicly singleball". This means that Sala is not SK. Thank you for your time.

In post 1826, Sakura Hana wrote:Huh http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7167773 I just realized the game here was announced as "publicly singleball" isn't that supposed to mean no SK?

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:53 pm

I'm seriously considering V/LAing for the rest of the game, if ppl aren't even gonna read my posts why would I bother writing them.
(Not you Axle, you're cool)

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:53 am

What the hell is going on?
Did ppl just totally skip over fire's cogdis?

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:57 am

In post 2130, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura puts up a horrible vote

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura reads besides tn seem bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:I disagree with sakura 237 post volume tends to correlate with alignment in most cases

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura unvote of Fro99er for him flailing is bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura hana explanation of meta by tn is bad as mentioned by Fro99er though.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura post 379 is pretty bad

Conclusion:

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Sakura-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.

:^)
Get rekt

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:19 pm

In post 2411, ika wrote:omfg....

know what im jsut dodgin now. the sheer stupitity of fighting that is going on and shit ate by everyone is fucking pathetic

QFT.
I'm wondering why we derailed so much into all this infighting instead of lynching scum Fire.

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:31 pm

I still dont understand how you say my posts are bad but in your conclusion you say you like what you're seeing of me.

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:45 pm

I still have a had time following what happened in here...

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:04 am

In post 2469, Salamence20 wrote:In other news, I would love Sakura and Fire's opinion on the VCA.

I like your PoE list, i wouldn't feel bad being lynched for the sake of a town win.
Firebringer's still scum and he's not on your scumlist and that makes me sad.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:13 am

I'm literally slipping away from mafia rn, I could replace out but i don't want to leave the mod having to look for another replacement.
Can we at least please lynch fire? he contradicted himself and is trying to look for an out.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:31 am

In post 2484, pisskop wrote:myrPSYF5mK0

Why did you put this text centered? i hardly noticed it.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:32 am

Oh ok.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:33 am

I just can't seem to get into this game right now =/
I'm still convinced Fire's just buddying me or something, his read on me doesn't make any sense. But people are like "BUT NOOO SAKURA HE'S JUST A VIII!!!!!!!" and keep arguing and arguing and... ugh... i just feel like i just want to be lynched and watch from the dead.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:55 am

For the record next time you should also color the ppl being voted, makes it easier to VCA for me, im also gonna color ricastle green since he's unCC'd.

In post 2457, Salamence20 wrote:Largest Extent of IaI wagon D1:

I Am Innocent
(7) -
Ricastle
, pisskop,
Salamence20
, Sakura Hana, Spiffeh,
Shiro
,
BananaCucho

Davsto (2) -
Slandaar
, AxleGreaser
Echo Echo (2) - Davsto,
Flubbernugget

Salamence20 (2) -
MarioManiac4
,
tn5421

tn5421
(1) - Fro99er
Spiffeh (1) - Aeronaut
AxleGreaser (1) - Echo Echo

Ricastle
(1) -
I Am Innocent

Fro99er (1) - Shazam

Not voting (1) - VeeGee

Sakura's comment:
: I'm pretty sure there's 1 scum voting IaI here. Frogger might be town i doubt he was busing.

Largest Extent of Dav Wagon D1

Davsto (7) -
BananaCucho
, Echo Echo, Sakura Hana,
Salamence20
, Fro99er,
I Am Innocent
, pisskop
Salamence20 (2) -
MarioManiac4
,
tn5421

MarioManiac4
(2) - Spiffeh, Davsto
Echo Echo (1) -
Flubbernugget

I Am Innocent
(1) - AxleGreaser
Spiffeh (1) - Aeronaut
Fro99er (1) - Shazam

Not voting (4) - VeeGee,
Shiro, Slandaar, Ricastle

Sakura's comment:
2 scum on Davsto if he's town, 1 scum busing (probably pisskop) if he's scum. Pisskop likely scum in both scenarios.

Mario's Lynch D1

MarioManiac4
(10) - Davsto,
Slandaar
,
Shiro
, Sakura Hana,
BananaCucho
, Shazam,
Salamence20
,
Ricastle
, Spiffeh, pisskop
Davsto (4) - Echo Echo, Fro99er,
I Am Innocent
,
MarioManiac4

I Am Innocent
(2) - AxleGreaser,
Flubbernugget

Salamence20 (1) -
tn5421

Spiffeh (1) - Aeronaut

Not voting (1) - ika

Sakura's Comment:
Don't like Shazam's appearance here, I'd say 2-3 scum?

Greatest Extent of IaI wagon D2

I Am Innocent
(4) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser, Davsto,
tn5421

Shiro
(1) -
Ricastle

Spiffeh (1) -
I Am Innocent

Aeronaut (1) -
Salamence20

Davsto (1) - pisskop

Not voting (8) - Spiffeh, ika, Flubbernugget, Shazam, Fro99er, Shiro, Echo Echo, Aeronaut

Sakura's comment:
dunno what to think of this wagon, but i highly doubt 3 scum are pushing IaI together here, way too risky, probably Davsto/Axle town?

TN Lynch D2

tn5421
(9) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh,
Salamence20
, Davsto, Shazam,
Ricastle
, Sakura Hana, pisskop, ika
Davsto (1) - AxleGreaser

I Am Innocent
(1) -
tn5421

Spiffeh (1) -
I Am Innocent

Flubbernugget (1) -
Shiro

Not voting (3) - Flubbernugget, Fro99er, Aeronaut

Sakura's comment:
Echo probably town, Shazam's vote is weird once again, but i doubt there's much busing going on, 1-2 scum in Spiffeh/Shazam/pisskop.

Flubber lynch D3

Flubbernugget
(8) - Echo Echo,
Salamence20
, Sakura Hana,
Shiro
, Fro99er, Davsto, pisskop, Spiffeh
Firebringer (2) -
Ricastle
, AxleGreaser

Not voting (4) - ika, Flubbernugget, Shazam, Firebringer

Sakura's comment:
Considering i'm assuming Echo's prob town due to the tn lynch, im heavily suspecting the late wagon commers, probably 2 scum among Frogger/Davsto/piss/Spiffeh

-----------------------------

Interesting points to note:

Sakura Hana is on every main wagon except for today, which actually makes me weary of her at the moment. Pisskop is also on every wagon except IaI D2, which looks really bad given that Sakura and TN were on that wagon. I sense some separation here, and I could see another scum in Sakura/Axle/Dav, as that looks like a really bad wagon at the time. Meanwhile, Im townreading EchoEcho for sure, because he lynched TN and it doesn't look like a bus. Going back to D2, you have a Vote from Sakura, Axle explaining his, and Dav just agreeing to vote Dav. Axle stays off TN's lynch while Sakura and Dav hop on. I think this means Axle is most likely scum with one of Sakura/Dav possibly. Adding to the fact that Flubber was lynched by Sakura and Dav, I doubt they are scum together.

Sakura's comment:
None
I would comment on this but im not a fan of doing self-meta.

Reads:

Confirmed Town:
Salamence20 - Vigilante Protector of all things flowery
Ricastle - Mason traveler from distant lands

Town:
Echo Echo, The Princess's Knight
Frogger, The Princess's Pet Frog
Ika, The Princess's Advisor

Townish:
Firebringer, Outspoken peasant
Spiffeh, The Princess's Aide
Shazam: The Lightning Captain

The Scumlist:
Sakura Hana: The Ill Fated Princess
Davsto: Illegal Village Gambler
AxleGreaser: The Princess's Gardener
Pisskop: Puppy with a past

Confirm Vote: Axle

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:01 am

After reading the wagons i wouldn't feel bad voting for any of pisskop, Shazam, Spiffeh, Frogger. And wont vote Davsto or Axle.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:02 am

Fire's predecessor has been absent for most of the game, and idk any kind of VCA can help analyze him as of right now.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:13 am

Oh yeah i forgot about the argument between sala and tn.
Sala's also someone i wont vote.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:21 am

In post 2498, Fro99er wrote:You say you doubt I was bussing, yet immediately after you say you'd vote for me? Cool

Yeah i sux at VCA, i tried orz.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:26 am

At this point i just want to proxy my vote to sala... i'm not motivated enough to try right now.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:29 am

ok

Vote: Pisskop
Proxying my vote to Salamence.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:30 am

In post 2506, Davsto wrote:What does this mean?

It means sala can control my vote.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:32 am

I'll take it back when im motivated enough to try, but ppl aren't interested in lynching scum Fire, and i'm currently not motivated for mafia at all and i don't want to V/LA again as of right now.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:04 am

This is why this arguing is unhealthy =/
Can you guys stop being derp and lynch scum Fire instead of replacing out.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:05 pm

Retaking my vote
Vote: Fire

Maybe we will eventually lynch scum Fire then?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:04 am

So Bearbert = pisskop and Vedith = Sala.

@Mod: Please update the op with replacements so i don't have to look back through your ISO

Sala was one of my strongest townreads.
pisskop was a nullish scum read.

But im liking bearbert now and im not liking Vedith...
I feel like my head's spinning.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:19 pm

Oh wait i msread your 2590...
Sigh... im so out of it nowadays.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:55 pm

Why not just lynch Fire?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:56 pm

I also acknowledge that i probably should replace out because atm i don't have much motivation to continue on, with ppl ignoring obvscum fire.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:01 pm

In post 2623, Fro99er wrote:Why did you vote rn when you did?

I liked the case on him.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:01 pm

Also please don't make me choose between bear and you.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:07 pm

First of all, the result of my opinion on the VCA, but i was kinda half-assing it at that point, i dont really like being forced into commenting onto VCAs.
Also:

In post 2596, Sakura Hana wrote:But im liking bearbert now

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:08 pm

Notice my reply here:

In post 2500, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2498, Fro99er wrote:You say you doubt I was bussing, yet immediately after you say you'd vote for me? Cool

Yeah i sux at VCA, i tried orz.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:11 pm

In post 2633, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2629, Sakura Hana wrote:First of all, the result of my opinion on the VCA, but i was kinda half-assing it at that point, i dont really like being forced into commenting onto VCAs.

Nobody forced you to comment on the VCA.

Sala did.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:13 pm

If you think im scum then vote me, im too tired and unmotivated in this game already, and would be a nice way to be finally free from it.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:16 pm

In post 2635, Fro99er wrote:Definitely sold on Hana/Bearbert scum. Shazam may admittedly be a bit of omgus...but could also be scum.

I could also go for Shazam ftr.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:17 pm

In post 2638, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2637, Sakura Hana wrote:If you think im scum then vote me.

I think you and bearbert are scum and I'm voting Bearbert.

Are you trying to draw the vote because he's scum PR?

Or because i think he's town.
And i'm being useless because i'm demotivated
Because idk how many ears do i have to pull to lynch freaking scum that keeps contradicting himself every post.
Like what do i have to give you a cop guilty?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:19 pm

In post 2641, Fro99er wrote:I'm not compromising on Shazam.

I want you or Bearbert, preferably bearbert given your resistance

And what are you gonna do tomorrow when he flips town?
"OH SAKURA KNEW HE WAS GOING TO FLIP TOWN!"

P-Edit: I've liked his posting.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:23 pm

In post 2645, Fro99er wrote:I specifically asked why you like his posting?

What posts and for what reasons?

The part where he's analysing stuff, i think it was like the 5th or so post in his ISO.

At this point i think you just think he's scum because he thinks you're scum.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:24 pm

Meanwhile have you even bothered to read my points against Fire?
Do you like them? Yes/No/Why?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:28 pm

In post 2273, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2130, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura puts up a horrible vote

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura reads besides tn seem bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:I disagree with sakura 237 post volume tends to correlate with alignment in most cases

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura unvote of Fro99er for him flailing is bad.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura hana explanation of meta by tn is bad as mentioned by Fro99er though.

In post 2119, Firebringer wrote:Sakura post 379 is pretty bad

Conclusion:

In post 2104, Firebringer wrote:Sakura-Contributes quite a bit, I like what I am seeing from her.

:^)
Get rekt

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:31 pm

Firebringer's reply to them:

In post 2139, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2138, Sakura Hana wrote:Btw, what i posted earlier was Ctrl+F my name on Fire's notes, wanting to know where he got the townread since im wary of buddying... my surprise was that... all his posts contradicted with said read.

I can disagree and think you are town. Disagreements doesn't equate to scum reading someone.

In post 2142, Sakura Hana wrote:You label all my posts as bad.
Your read says you like my posts.

In post 2426, Firebringer wrote:Sakura seems like bad town, what part of that do you not get?

In post 2548, Firebringer wrote:I read Sakura as town, she puts a vote on me.
This is what I mean by bad town, you can see she is just making bad decision after bad decision.

None of this have explained why he says "he likes what he sees of me" yet labels all my posts as "bad"

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:33 pm

In post 2652, Fro99er wrote:The conclusion came before the read through. You are misrepping it as a conclusion, which comes at the end of something.

The conclusion is what he had on his notes.
His presented his conclusion reads first and then copy pasted his notes.
And even if he had presented that first, if he had those notes, then why would he be "liking what he sees of me" despite his note labeling everything as bad posts.
We know this isn't true because his notes show shiro as scum candidate whom he said he didnt bother editing out, so these are the results of the notes he took.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:35 pm

And now you're deflecting

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:36 pm

If Fire flips scum, then Frogger's scum with Fire.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:38 pm

There you have it:

In post 2657, Firebringer wrote:The reads list was written after my notes.

No misrep happened.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:38 pm

In post 2658, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2656, Sakura Hana wrote:If Fire flips scum, then Frogger's scum with Fire.

Way to force that connection without any good substance.

The substance is that as soon as i show my case on you, Frogger tries to derail the conversation back to bearbert.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:40 pm

In post 2661, Firebringer wrote:Bearbert should be focused.

You are derailing conversation on him for pointless lynch on me.

I've been onto you since the beginning of the day, I only swapped to pisskop midway to follow sala.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:42 pm

In post 2664, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2660, Sakura Hana wrote:The substance is that as soon as i show my case on you, Frogger tries to derail the conversation back to bearbert.

Yep. Fire and I are scumbuddies

Good to know.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:43 pm

Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:57 pm

This progression doesn't feel natural:

In post 2669, Fro99er wrote:Ooh!

In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

In post 2671, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

Stop bussing me teammate!

In post 2672, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2671, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2670, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Fire

Stop bussing me teammate!

Ok!

VOTE: Bearbert

In post 2673, Fro99er wrote:
In post 2668, Sakura Hana wrote:Is this the part where i say that fire targeted shiro last night?

Fire should fullclaim rn

Specially after i had just called them possible buddies.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:03 pm

In post 2690, Fro99er wrote:Cool. I'm going down next. Hana's confbiasing now

Do you think i shouldn't have a reason to think you're buddies after you tried to pin me as scum with someone when i was offering you scum on a silver platter?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:04 pm

Posts tags too hard apparently
2119

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:12 pm

In post 2699, Fro99er wrote:Why done we just lynch me now?

Can i pull what you just said before and say you're trying to protect scum PR?
Or does it only work when you're saying it.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:23 pm

In post 2704, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: Ricastle

I have my reasons for doing this.

What

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:25 pm

I'll have to check how the votes were at the time, but if Fire was going down when he made the notes post and his reads, then it's highly likely that it's full of WIFOM for ppl trying to analyze him after dying.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:29 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=2100
Welp just taking a look at the whole page just tells me a lot of stuff already.
It's highly probable that Firebringer's notes are full of WIFOM and shouldn't be taken seriously.
I mean come on, it was already a case where his notes contradicted his reads.

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:40 pm

Does anyone even understand what Frog is doing?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:43 pm

So you're solving the game for town by Voting claimed Mason and self voting before finally voting caught scum?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:52 pm

In post 2722, Ricastle wrote:To be fair, the selfvote was pretty good.

Oh, i get it!

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:56 pm

What makes you so sure im going to live through the night?
Or are you and your partners already plotting something in your day chat?

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:01 am

Sorry this was asked while i was sleeiping

In post 2733, AxleGreaser wrote:Sakura do you have other (even) non results?
That we could should know about

Yes / No. (choose one)

No.

My track was 1-shot, along other abilities which im not going to comment on right now, except for the fact that i roleblocked Shazam last night, not sure if that means anything.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:07 pm

In post 2748, Sakura Hana wrote:My track was 1-shot, along other abilities which im not going to comment on right now, except for the fact that i roleblocked Shazam last night, not sure if that means anything.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:08 pm

I was hoping ppl would engage me at least about why i didnt roleblock frogger, but apparently ppl are just too focused arguing.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:18 pm

Tbh i was initially gonna RB you.
But then i had some sort of genuinity to your concerns yesterday.
Then i started second guessing myself and decided to RB your scumread.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:27 pm

In post 2782, Fro99er wrote:What led to your change of heart?

Something about your AtE, I went to look over it again, and your disgust at me saying you were scum together felt werid coming from scum.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:09 pm

So I come back, and see a lot of arguing so i decided to skip the last few pages.
Can anyone link me to the post that shows why Shazam's scum? I'm a bit wary because i sent a RB to him last night, but scum could've thought i was a tracker and decided to not risk it.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:13 pm

Inb4 i finally have some time to be around and ppl are too busy now :<

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:23 pm

In post 3013, ika wrote:im always her sakura. talk to me

I'm kinda lost because i've been absent for most of this DP and i dont understand what's going on, ppl keep changing their scumreads all the time and votes are flying everywhere, so i just decided to ask instead of trying to make any sense of it.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 3015, Fro99er wrote:Why don't you read and form your own opinion? You are just asking for others to influence you and right now I am phoneposting while I walk my dog.

I tired, i just can't make any sense of what's going on.
So I just looked at the vote count and decided to ask about Shazam.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:27 pm

In post 3016, Sakura Hana wrote:I tried

Fixed that for me

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:28 pm

Like day starts > most suspicion on shazam > arguments and wagons changing all the time > most suspicion on Shazam again in the end.

And ppl aren't thinking that there might be some scum oriented chaos here?

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:31 pm

Sigh...
Imma look at it again.
I just wish ppl would at least point me to where I should be looking because my head spins with all the vote and wagon shifts this DP.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:34 pm

Oh static reads...
That makes sense

Vote: Shazam

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:19 pm

So badass he missed this

@GIFFY: YOU MISSED MY VOTE!

In post 3021, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh static reads...
That makes sense

Vote: Shazam

Never said I was good at not missing non-vote tagged votes.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:20 pm

Inb4 scum targeted me with some sort of vote thief sorta thing and i wasn't aware of it

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:18 pm

I haven't been paying much attention to this game, i've been busy and now it's kinda late night orz

Unvote

I'll probably get some time tomorrow in the morning if i get back early from my errands and im not tired as hell.

Sakura Hana · Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:19 pm

I thought i was sheeping sala there, at that point i wasnt paying much attention who was voing who, because i was fed up with ppl not wanting to lynch fire.

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:03 pm

Unvote
Vote: frogger

This isn't going anywhere.
And we're just wasting time here.

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:25 pm

1) We have like 24 hours and all i see is pointless bickering back and forth.
2) Apparently a lot of info is dependant on your flip.
3) I want to move on and your self voting attitude isnt helping me figure you out.

Sakura Hana · Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:29 pm

In post 3154, Fro99er wrote:So, no legitimate reason for actually thinking I'm scum. Got it

Pretty much.
I just want to PoE this thing. I would've felt more comfortable with a Shazam lynch but since you really seem to want to die, then sure.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:01 am

For the record i find self-meta defense scummy, because if you acknowledge your own meta, then you're capable of faking it, and why would you bring your own meta in the first place if not for try to deflect suspicion?
I don't think bearbert is scum based on Axle bringing up that fire was all over pisskop yesterday, so can we lynch frogger pls?

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:03 am

Oops, i just realized i was on page 128 and posted on quick reply and missed a whole page of posts.

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:04 am

Now i wish i had woken up earlier...

Sakura Hana · Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:09 am

In post 3231, Fro99er wrote:
In post 3225, Sakura Hana wrote:For the record i find self-meta defense scummy, because if you acknowledge your own meta, then you're capable of faking it, and why would you bring your own meta in the first place if not for try to deflect suspicion?
I don't think bearbert is scum based on Axle bringing up that fire was all over pisskop yesterday, so can we lynch frogger pls?

I'm actually not capable of faking my meta. It's too far apart at this point in time

And how do i know you're not scum, lying about this?

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:17 am

Indeed.
Ugh, i need to reread all i've missed but everytime i try i get lazy :<

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:32 pm

The things Shazam's been accusing me of, have been there for a while, i don't see why he'd put up a case right now and not before (i.e. yesterday)

Sakura Hana · Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:55 pm

Vote: Davsto

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:48 pm

So ika's CCing Mason?

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:50 pm

I don't even understand, shouldn't ika be voting Echo or does ika think Echo's a town fake claiming Mason =/

Unvote

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:51 pm

In post 3353, ika wrote:plz be i need to talk to someone to calm myself

I am, but i want you to explain what the hell is going on.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:55 pm

Ok so first question, why do you think he's fake claiming to draw a bullet
and second question, why do you think he's not scum fake claiming.

I guess third would be why you want davsto, but i've seen enough that i was voting him anyway.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:56 pm

Actually i want to wait for Echo's intake on this, but since he's V/LA so i dont have my hopes very high.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm

New idea, continue lynching Dave and if Echo's scum then ika dies or viceversa, and if no one dies then idk... ok maybe it's not that good of an idea orz

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:05 pm

In post 3359, ika wrote:3) im at the point where its going ot be {shazam/echo/dave} if dave somehow flips town im going shazam next and then echo after.

If your CC is in your scum list then why are you not interested in lynching him? unless you think it's 2 scum and it's shazam/dave?

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:06 pm

In post 3359, ika wrote:1+2) its near sucidal for scum to claim such role (at least IMO), once the real mason flips its kinda a "why did you claim mason" game. i mean if i was fakeclaiming people would walk it off. i can understand why you think echo might be claiming that as scum. its all a matter of what it looks like. i mean if i was VT i would of fakeclaimed mason to draw nk jsut so mason has a better opertunity. but i would also try to find out who it was so i can follow them.

You're just shrugging off your CC here, so technically you're already dismissing scum because "why would scum do it, it's suicidal" and this is basically giving them a reason to do it, or rather... ahh i dont know. I can't make any sense of this.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:08 pm

>"This guy is fake claiming mason and is in my lynch pool, he's totes town!"
>Lynch pool consists of 3 ppl (Are you even assuming 2 or 3 scum?)

Scum fake claims mason because town will think it's too suicidal and will read them as vt drawing a NK.
I don't even how this even makes sense.

Ugh...
I need to think.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:09 pm

Actually screw thinking, supposed town mason ika would be voting supposed scum suspect Echo who had claimed Mason when it's ika's role.

Vote: ika

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:10 pm

Although then idk why fake claim...

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:12 pm

Actually nvm what ika's doing makes sense again

Unvote

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:17 pm

I'm trying to think what's the best approach here.
We currently have 8 ppl alive.
Which means 6-2 or 5-3
If we're wrong here, we can afford to sort out you 2 tomrorow and if you're both town im hell of a lot sure that the mafia will abuse that fact.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:18 pm

Although in the 2nd option, obviously being wrong here would mean we lose i guess...

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:19 pm

Now im suddenly getting doubts about hammering davsto, those numbers look scary.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:21 pm

In post 3371, Sakura Hana wrote:we
can't
afford to sort out you 2 tomrorow

Fixed that for me

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:36 pm

Well i was never good at balance when making games...
Sigh... ok

Intent to Hammer

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:37 pm

Oh wait he's not at L-1 coz Echo unvoted

Vote: Davsto

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:25 am

In post 3392, DrippingGoofball wrote:i am setting up scumputer input, tn51424 got speedlynched, was this a cop guilty or something?

There was a track guilty (mine) on Firebringer.
There was a case on tn.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:26 am

There was also an ika mason counterclaim to Echo yesterday, but ika never pursued echo since ika was townreading echo.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:32 am

In post 3398, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3395, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3392, DrippingGoofball wrote:i am setting up scumputer input, tn51424 got speedlynched, was this a cop guilty or something?

There was a track guilty (mine) on Firebringer.
There was a case on tn.

Why are you still alive?

Probably because claimed masons are dying?
That's a good point tho, if scum had shot me i wouldn't have died anyway, which is why i didnt want to reveal this beforehand.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:36 am

All of the people that have died after my claim have claimed Masons in the thread.
One of my JOAT abilities is 1-shot BP, i've also claimed a 1-shot Track (Night 3 > firebringer towards shiro) and 1-shot RB (Night 4 on Shazam)

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:52 am

That's actually all my abilities.
I said if i was shot i wouldn't have died, so obviously scum hasn't been shooting me.
This is why I was worried that Sala might have shot me before.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:54 am

Do you seriously believe i would claim a track on firebringer when everyone was thinking he's town on that day. Seriously.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:54 am

Well not everyone, but after a while people left him alone, so i claimed the track so he wouldn't get away with it.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:56 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=2650 You should probably read what happened on that day.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:31 am

So I'm looking at our options here.
If we assume that Echo claimed Mason to out ika then Echo's scum.
ika also didn't want us to deviate from sala's townbloc, that would make Echo town and would make Shazam the next in the lynch pool.
Also if we assume Echo town that means there's 2 scum in Axle/Spiffeh/DGB/Shazam

Axle has been the only one i've seen here actually following the game along and trying to solve it, he's the person i think is the most town out of those 4.
I want to know what he thinks about DGB since i think he thought frog was scum at some point?

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:31 am

In post 3410, DrippingGoofball wrote:Do you have to activate the 1-shot BP?

Not really, it says the first night i would be targeted for a kill i dont die that night.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:34 am

In post 3413, DrippingGoofball wrote:If you have 3 abilities, why did you use 2 of them them on nights 3 & 4??????

Look at the abilities i have.
They both me require to target the scum making the kill.
There's a crapton of players and i didn't want to risk it on the first nights to come empty handed.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:09 am

In post 3416, AxleGreaser wrote:Er that would be specifically untrue

Hmm i guess i remembered wrong then.
Why didnt he vote Echo yesterday... I remember specifically asking and he said something about Echo wanting to eat a bullet for him.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:23 pm

Wait a second, this is MyLo, can anyone tell me why aren't we voting for No Lynch? the worst that can happen is that scum pops my BP and we end up in the same situation again.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:42 pm

Didn't that happen before ika claimed Mason? I'll go and re-read

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:49 pm

So Echo soft-claims Mason, says that we need to lynch Davsto and last scum is between ika or Shazam, ika does nothing Echo votes Davsto.
ika yells about lynching Davsto.
Echo votes ika.
ika rages and counter claims Echo (ika's confirmed to be Mason now by Night Kill).
Possible theories:
Town!Echo thought ika was aiming for a mislynch and switched vote.
Scum!Echo decided to mislynch ika instead.

What i don't understand is... the whole thing with the ika CC and thinking Echo could be scum while simultanously thinking that Echo was trying to draw a bullet, Echo's read progression towards voting ika from Davsto is unclear.

P-Edit: Imma go and recheck Echo's reads.

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:52 pm

Ok Echo's reads are not exactly clear but we can probably figure it out.

Davsto/ika/Shazam were Echo's scumreads, obviously he didn't think was the Mason.
Frogger's constant mentioning that he should be lynched, obviously that's not a Mason.
I was a claimed JOAT.

My guess is... you?

Sakura Hana · Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:07 pm

Wait a second, DGB, since when do you do VCA?

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:17 am

Huh interesting, i've had 3 games where DGB replaced in (on one i was already dead), and i didn't see her use VCA, nevermind then.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:32 am

In post 3453, DrippingGoofball wrote:This scumteam is very aggressive against townies and does not bus.

huh, what do you mean by this, and if this is what you believe then why am i your major candidate when i've been on 2 scum lynches (one of them pushed by my guilty when they were being treated as VI)

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:33 am

I understand if you think i pulled some major busing shenanigans, but if you say "this scumteam does not bus" then that doesn't make sense.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:35 am

In post 3457, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3451, Sakura Hana wrote:Huh interesting, i've had 3 games where DGB replaced in (on one i was already dead), and i didn't see her use VCA, nevermind then.

LOL I invented it!

Looking at the wiki page is something similar to the VCAs i tend to run (I always assume at least 1 scum bus'd and I always assume at least 2 scum unless max ammount of scum is 2 on a town lynch and at most scumteam-1)
Also i knew i had heard the term scumputer somewhere: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6406441

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:42 am

So
1) Why should i trust your VCA, when according to your VCA im the most likely scum candidate and I know i'm town.
2) Assume i'm town how does said VCA look
3) There's 2 scum left (i highly doubt there's a 3 person scumteam here) and we have no mislynches left unless scum shoots me (which they likely wont now), we can't afford to be wrong.
4) Why should i trust that you're town.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:48 am

In post 3467, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3461, Sakura Hana wrote:So
1) Why should i trust your VCA, when according to your VCA im the most likely scum candidate and I know i'm town.
2) Assume i'm town how does said VCA look
3) There's 2 scum left (i highly doubt there's a 3 person scumteam here) and we have no mislynches left unless scum shoots me (which they likely wont now), we can't afford to be wrong.
4) Why should i trust that you're town.

The YOU look at it. What do YOU see?

I don't know how i'm supposed to know.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:50 am

Wait what are you even asking u.u

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:50 am

I would like to go back to my previous sugestion of no lynching...

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:55 am

In post 3476, DrippingGoofball wrote:Firebringer (7) - Sakura Hana, AxleGreaser, Davsto, Ricastle, Bearbert D, Vedith, DrippingGoofball

In post 3476, DrippingGoofball wrote:tn5421 (9) - Echo Echo, Spiffeh, Vedith, Davsto, Shazam, Ricastle, Sakura Hana, Bearbert D, ika

In your supposed assumption that i'm scum, i bused both of these, specially firebringer who was being threatened as a VI, if i was scum what reason did i have to out my tracker guilty on him?. So why am i scum if you're assuming scum isn't busing?
As I mentioned, if you're assuming i'm scum then you're assuming busing, and i wouldn't mind if you assume im scum and busing, otherwise your words have cognitive dissoance.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:55 am

The previous was directed at DGB.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:58 am

Hmm 6 ppl alive and 4 to lynch, most likely 2 scum, 2 votes from town on town mean QH.
So if you want to prove your theory DGB why don't you vote me, if i don't get QH then that means that either im scum, or 1 of you / Echo or both are scum.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:05 am

In post 3492, Spiffeh wrote:@Sakura please explain why you hopped on a wagon with your confirmed guilty on it.

I explained it, but i'll explain again:
At the time i wasn't paying attention to who was on where, since my main focus was trying to get firebringer lynched, at the point that i got demotivated and decided to just sheep sala, i didnt look at the fact that firebringer was voting the same person.
Believe it or not, it's well, the truth, but that's as much as i can say about it because i literally have no way of proving it.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:08 am

In post 3497, Echo Echo wrote:Sakura, if you had a BP, as well as a guilty on Firebringer, why couldn't you counterclaim him?

Because i didnt want to out the fact that i had a BP.
I wanted scum to waste a shot on me.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:11 am

In post 3500, Echo Echo wrote:Okay. Why didn't you out the guilty immediately? You claim that your actions were used up night 3 and 4. Roleblocking you shouldn't have been a problem, right?

I still had a roleblock at the time you know!
I didnt out immediately because obviously the best play is to lay low about my results unless my guilty's going to escape lynch.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:12 am

Now that you mention it tho, do you think i was roleblocked the night i roleblocked Shazam?

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:13 am

In post 3504, Echo Echo wrote:Why didn't you votepark him?

I did... until i lost motivation because no one was following me, then i went back to him again when Axle snapped me out of it.
As i said, im telling the truth, but i have no way of proving that it is the truth =/

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:14 am

In post 3509, Echo Echo wrote:If being roleblocked means that your shot is refunded, you get to use it again.

My role PM specifically stated that it doesn't...

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:16 am

Or they can shoot me and pop by BP.
Or they can leave me alive since apparently im currently their ticket to winning the game.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:18 am

2158 read over this place again, and tell me if it makes sense to you wrt my interaction with sala there.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:18 am

In post 3515, Echo Echo wrote:So why did you use your roleblock when the pool of players was so wide and there was more than 1 person remaining on the scumteam?

How did you think you would differentiate if a no-kill happened, and whether it was because you blocked scum, or scum hit your "BP"?

I was fairly certain Shazam was scum u.u

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:19 am

Although i did not think through that.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:20 am

Sigh... to be honest, there's not really much i can say other than i screwed up, which is why i was telling DGB to vote me, because it's obvious by now im going to be lynched regardless and if DGB is town then that means town already loses when she votes me, but if not, then that means at least one of you two or both (leaning DGB) is scum.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:21 am

Or maybe DGB isn't scum since she's actually trying to solve the game...

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 am

Scum def. has at the very least a doctor.
I doubt sala was lying about shooting Fire, and fire didnt flip bulletproof.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:38 am

In post 3528, DrippingGoofball wrote:When did you use your 1-shot doctor?

I don't have a 1-shot doctor.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:55 am

Well since you're setup speccing, let's suppose you're right, and im a scum JOAT with a BP.
Town has a 2-shot vig, the scum that was shot flipped goon, so scum has a doctor.
So... scum has 2 ways of blocking the kills from a 2-SHOT vig?

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:58 am

Meanwhile, town has no flipped or claimed protection, either in the form of a doc or another BP (which would cc mine), the only one was pisskop but it was a fake claim and he already flipped.
Do you seriously believe that town has a single (but limited) killing role and on top of that scum also can kill town, and town has no other way of protection?

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:01 am

In post 3544, Spiffeh wrote:You could have hooked Sala that night with your hook shot.

Nothing has confirmed that you actually hooked Shazam last night.

You could also not actually be a BPV.

Technically nothing can be confirmed, if anything, my role could've confirned another one, once again, you're going on a tangent that im just lying, without actually sitting and looking why my role makes sense in the setup, because i know what role i have, i just can't prove it because 1, i do have the tracking ability, so obviously there's not a tracker that can confirm my targets and 2) the only form of defense is explaining why my role makes sense in the setup.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:16 am

Non broken ISO of that game

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:16 am

If you use "display posts by user" at the bottom you get a better ISO link, and you can even use it to ISO multiple people simultanously.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:07 pm

In post 3566, Shazam wrote:Plus DGB is useful to us even if she's somehow scum

Uh... what.
Like it's not that i think DGB's scum anymore, but, in the supposed scenario of DGB being scum why would she be "useful"

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:15 pm

In post 3566, Shazam wrote:but Sakura's mostly on setup speculation and I prefer to go with reason before setup speculation.

If anything setup speculation points towards me being town.
For you to think that i'm scum you'd have to think i'm lying about my role.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:39 pm

So in other words you think that town has no protection from night kills at all?
Good spec.

VOTE: Shazam

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:42 pm

I'm p.sure Echo's town, so if Shazam's town, it's gg, so This is the only choice i have at this point in time.

I still can't tell you've had a scumread on me since D1, and your reads behaved in a static way, yet you still never voted me until MyLo, when people actually want to lynch me, go figure.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:50 pm

In post 3576, Spiffeh wrote:Yeah now I think they're just trying to distance from each other because it's inevitable one of them is getting lynched today.

Good effort though.

He's been "distancing" since Day 1. Seriously i can't believe you even believe what you're saying, it's obvious that he's scum and if he's not then GG.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:53 pm

In post 3580, Spiffeh wrote:I feel like the evidence against you is more damning.

Sigh...
I'm done explaining myself.

I fucked up, this is going to be a town loss because people can't see beyond "oh hey she sheeped her guilty", i already explained myself, i wasnt paying attention to where the votes were and was annoyed that ppl didnt want to lynch fire.

Sorry i let you all down.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:57 pm

In post 3581, Sakura Hana wrote:I fucked up

^
There

Tell me have you ever felt apathetic in a game.

Have you ever feel like you keep yelling out of your lungs for people to lynch scum and people just dont follow you.

I'm not perfect, nor i think anyone here is, and i'm human, i make mistakes, it happens, i was away from the game for like what 3 days or so? i don't even remember.
I understand why you have reservations, but i want you to see beyond that.

Sakura Hana · Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Huh, actually i should have probably realized that scum didn't have a roleblocker since they killed IaI.... sigh now i feel dumb.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:36 am

pisskop i think, lemme double check.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:37 am

This was the last vote count before i outed the guilty:

In post 2600, pieguyn wrote:
votecount 4.9
Bearbert D (3) - Firebringer, Davsto, Fro99er

Fro99er (2) - Shazam, AxleGreaser
Davsto (1) - Echo Echo
Shazam (1) - Ricastle
Firebringer (1) - Sakura Hana

Not voting (4) - Spiffeh, ika, Bearbert D, Vedith

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is September 15, 20:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-09-15 20:20:00).

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:28 am

Hmm... sorry Axle i don't see DGB scum at all, you'd think she'd be pushing hard on Spiffeh (who wouldn't be hard to convince apparently) to vote me if she was scum with Echo.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:14 am

Ok so here's where im currently at:
Echo Echo - Votes me and is blindly following DGB's VCA even after Axle said it had flaws (also ftr i'd trust a Titus VCA way more, but that's another subject).
Shazam - Blindly follows Spiffeh's suspicions on me and has kept static reads all game.
Axle - Defends me and sees exactly through my eyes, understands my position and continues to hard defend me.
Spiffeh - Indecisive, keeps saying im scum, but at the very least it isnt blindly following the argument, he doesn't want to make a mistake.
DGB - Keeps trying to sort everything out to solve the game.

So imo, both Echo and Shazam are scum.
Echo says that he thought ika would follow his plan, but Echo clearly stated that he had a scumread on ika beforehand (said 1 of ika/Davsto was scum), even after the naked vote on ika, i highly doubt he actually thought ika would see it as a friendly CC to draw the NK, ika was also scumreading Echo (i think? i remember someone said that). What would have happened if ika didn't CC, and scum had killed somewhere else (or hit me for a no kill), im pretty sure Axle asked this at some point but i don't think i saw a clear answer.
@Spiffeh: Why is echo's "fuck up" towny, but my "fuck up" scummy?

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:12 pm

In post 3632, AxleGreaser wrote:If Ika doesnt counter claim then tonight scum kill Sakura last night
and today at Mylo Echoecho is the un cc'd mason.

That would've been hilarious because then we wouldn't have MyLo, but scum had no way of knowing that.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:20 pm

In post 3637, Spiffeh wrote:Sakura can you say words to me that make a Shazam and Echo scum team seem plausible?

More or less gut, i mean, both of them are Blindly Sheeping someone's reasons for voting me, while those others aren't even voting me and are actually analysing stuff, to me it looks like i was a designated scum mislynch or something (which would explain they never shooting me).

Granted there's still the possibility that 1 of the 2 is town, and if it's someone i'd give to you that it's more likely Echo than Shazam, HOWEVER, i dont see anyone else that could be scum candidate all 3 of you (DGB, Axle, you) look town to me.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:23 pm

Like how would you feel, if you were in my position, assuming you have my role and everything, and someone says that you're scum via VCA (heck they do actually you're the 2nd most suspicious person there in DGB's scumputer thingy), and they go "OH HEY THAT LOOKS GOOD LET'S DO THAT" and someone else randomly comes in and votes you too because they've been suspecting you since D1 (yet never voted you). That's how i feel atm.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:39 pm

In post 3640, Shazam wrote:You even know the reason why I haven't committed to voting Sakura until now, and you can't possibly convince anyone that it's not a good one. I wasn't going to lynch a claimed, significant PR earlier in the game.

My PR was only made known at the end of D4, You have 3 and a half days to account for an excuse for not wanting to vote me, start.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:06 pm

Your initial scumread on me was from something i did on D1, and you mentioned it D1.
You still had an scumread on me despite the claim a day or 2 ago.... for the VERY EXACT SAME REASONS than on D1.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:19 pm

In post 3646, Spiffeh wrote:And Sakura I don't really get what you're arguing here. My whole reason for bringing up the connection between you two was because it points to you two being scum together. What exactly do you find scummy about him scum reading but not voting for you?

The problem is that i'm town orz
His read on me looks fake, that's what i'm getting at.

Also i wanted to see if i could find something on both and Echo's ISO, and apparently Echo had Shazam as super town until he did VCA, and Shazam had Echo as scum until he did VCA (i think?), which idk, it's kinda weird.

@Shazam: Who other than me is scum, there's 2 scum remaining so who do you think is my partner IF i am scum.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:05 pm

In post 3661, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3660, AxleGreaser wrote:shitting up the thread.

Hey that's not very nice, I am not "shitting up the thread."

I thinik he's referring back to when your slot was Frogger.

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:28 pm

In post 3667, AxleGreaser wrote:DGb did his scum puter.

*her*
DGB is a she

Sakura Hana · Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:27 pm

Yeah i don't get how DGB keeps coming back to Shiro being alive...
Also who's Scumraka?