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[Lapsa]

i get no love?

ugly

[Lapsa]

TBH this is kinda fair retribution for the last time I played with Lapsa
Dude got lynched D1 for what I figure was wagon analysis (not VCA)

ugly

[Lapsa]

We should lynch Transcend.

ugly

[Lapsa]

Yes I do

oh shut up already -_-

[Lapsa]

VOTE: transcend

ugly

[Lapsa]

Yes, of course I take my word seriously, pisskop. I'm a rather serious guy when it counts.

As for my name. Let's see, I started out with Mysterio, as in Rey Mysterio (from pro wrestling), but then I replaced Rey with P (the first letter of my first and last name), and instead of Mysterio, I added in a "us". So, that's how I got PMysterious. Had that nickname for almost 8 years now, to be perfectly honest.

wish you had separate chat with gamma so you could fluff all day long

[Lapsa]

ego

hey wanna see a gag

vote egg!!!!!!!!!@@@@@!!!!!!!@@÷^&(¥/$

will policy lynch you

[Lapsa]

Egg's #57

good

[Lapsa]

Lapsa is confirmed town? Did I miss something?

ugly

[Lapsa]

We should lynch Transcend.

ugly

meh.... 4T seems to be ok for now

[Lapsa]

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

good

for now...

[Lapsa]

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

[Lapsa]

because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched.

I once did it in town of salem >_>

Town of salem had an innocent child role and I said, hey lets lynch the IC for lulz

worked too.

that's brave

[Lapsa]

This game is quiet for 21 players

town, please don't waste day1. might not be around tomorrow

will try to be as active, open and informative as I can possibly be

[Lapsa]

I thought gin and tonic was a guy

Or is that even gin and tonic

you got some cred. don't get carried away though

[Lapsa]

How so?

waste of tempo explaining that

[Lapsa]

@Lexa what's your read on Gamma Emerald?

[Lapsa]

I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

cheer up! it's still an exciting game!

[Lapsa]

Were you not IC I'd have your ass for this. Is there not the possibility we are scummates?

are you trying to say that my role could be an obstacle for you playing town efficiently?

[Lapsa]

lapsa, youve gotten better too, it seems. at least, youre more vocal now

and that gives you the right to derail Gamma wagon

[Lapsa]

btw serious answer?

yes. your posts made absolutely no sense to me whatsoever

[Lapsa]

@gamma cut the crap

[Lapsa]

@pisskop you are underwhelming

[Lapsa]

@egg & @four_trouble - can I ask you two to always vote in sync? really want you two working together as close as possible

P.s. I won't vote Transcend

[Lapsa]

Egg is Transcends scumbuddy.

ugly

[Lapsa]

also - would like to emphasize that I won't be making any gambit

[Lapsa]

But yeah when we get to crunch time and need to compromise, I'm willing to work with whoever just as long as the compromise is on someone who I'm ok with.

no pressure

[Lapsa]

Why is that? I see you chose not to explain once, but I don't get the assumption and it would drastically change the way we should scum hunt.

that was a curveball to scare scum

even idea alone of chance being in multi-ball throws scum in disarray

looking back - it doesn't look like such silly idea anymore

one of multi-ball tells is inability to build wagons

[Lapsa]

@penguin why do you think egg is transcend's scumbuddy?

[Lapsa]

@penguin could you tell in your own words what you see in that quote?

[Lapsa]

@penguin could you tell in your own words what you see in that quote?

the entirety. it's unnecessary (the Transcend wagon is small); he regurgitates WhyMafia's reasoning for the votes (even though no reasoning for the votes has been stated); AND, it's

uncomely

.

I don't understand your thought process but I appreciate the effort

[Lapsa]

Lapsa, crush's attitude towards transcend seems like someone who is thinking critically. He seems to genuinely be trying to determine transcend's alignment. And his conclusion doesn't seem like one that scum would push the way he is.

err... yeah. got weak townread on Crush at the moment

[Lapsa]

He sees my attack on the reasoning as a soft defense that could come from a buddy. It's actually kind of fair for someone who scum reads transcend and doesn't know my alignment.

got kinda similar results - hence the appreciation

for me it's easier - I remember very well us playing in same scum team

[Lapsa]

The ease of a wagon has little to do with whether someone is scum. But the fact that you'd focus on a wagon's ease as opposed to the player's alignment, that's concerning.

good thing is that he's discrediting himself. if he is a scum - won't be capable of steering town into oblivion

[Lapsa]

Really like this post
Reasoning that I could follow and understand. It also makes sense to me

PMysterious's timing sucks on that one

[Lapsa]

Transcend isn't spammy enough to be town

but his vote also wasn't a cause to scum read him

Unvote

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

this looks like fun

good

[Lapsa]

hey lapsa how sure are you on 4t
I get scum pings, you see?
at the moment I have him as null
but that null read isn't one that's dull

no

I don't see what kind of scum pings you are getting - your ISO is silent about that

[Lapsa]

Really like this post
Reasoning that I could follow and understand. It also makes sense to me

PMysterious's timing sucks on that one

I was slow to the party, I get it. However, I don't want Gamma to get away (or in this case, lynched) without explaining his reasons.
While Gamma is V/LA at the moment, that doesn't mean I can't ask questions that everyone can just quote to make sure Gamma sees them when he comes back.

will ensure everybody quotes your questions

[Lapsa]

Then he

[Crush]

comes to a conclusion I agree with which is a lack of

[Transcend's]

scum motivation.

There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and

that itself is scummy,

it obscures his motives.

this is a very useful dissonance

both opinions are valid

[Lapsa]

I was slow to the party, I get it. However, I don't want Gamma to get away (or in this case, lynched) without explaining his reasons.

how is that getting away?

[Lapsa]

@crush place a vote, please

[Lapsa]

@WhyMafia - why'd you say my initial townread on PM was weird?

I don't see how these
8
15
Can give you a town read

good

@four_trouble how come?

[Lapsa]

Why dont you tell me what you'd consider 'adequate'.

gamma is l-4?

lemme position him to be quicklynched.

^

[Lapsa]

@four_trouble how come?

What's your question?

@WhyMafia - why'd you say my initial townread on PM was weird?

I don't see how these
8
15
Can give you a town read

[Lapsa]

@four_trouble how come you townread PM that quickly?

[Lapsa]

Questions like these are why I said we should have dueling wagons.

stay the fuck away from pisskop vs transcend

[Lapsa]

@four_trouble how come you townread PM that quickly?

His reaction to the IC mirrored mine. I thought the confirmation would have been more useful later in the game after people took positions, and PM's post hinted at a similar reaction. It obviously wasn't a solid read, since I retracted it soon after.

good

[Lapsa]

Because i had another scum read dipshit

That eggscalated quickly

@ginngie what's your intent posting this?

[Lapsa]

Because i had another scum read dipshit

That escalated quickly

Because i had another scum read dipshit

That eggscalated quickly

@ginngie what's your intent posting this?

I did a thing, i'll wait for you to notice

Lapsa, the joke went right pasteurized?

Oh you're good.

you are sailing against the wind, Ginngie

[Lapsa]

Are you upset or something?

I'm playing mafia

[Lapsa]

Did you assume that meant anything?

that you are trying to obfuscate the game

[Lapsa]

your join date says 2014

you are playing Town of Salem

!

[Lapsa]

your join date says 2014

you are playing Town of Salem

you eat cereal without any milk

join me

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

Do you know what time stamps are?

The next part is important

will you play the game?

[Lapsa]

You're trying to form a new wagon when Gamma hasn't even made a comment on his wagon or the votes on him.

what makes you think of that?
why are you townreading Transcend?

[Lapsa]

@ginngie do you feel like I'm trying to manipulate you?

[Lapsa]

@ginngie

I feel it in my bones

Why?

did you ignore or miss this?
when will you return from the joy ride?
do you scumread Transcend?

[Lapsa]

FourTrouble who do you think is scummy rn

@four_trouble don't answer that, please

[Lapsa]

Why shouldn't he answer that

because I don't trust you

[Lapsa]

Why

because your ISO is empty

[Lapsa]

I think Lapsa is trying to dig out scum reads out of me but that is just a waste of time for me until like day 7 of Day 1, sorry not sorry but personal philosophy

that's brave

[Lapsa]

your ISO is empty

That's fair I guess

it is not

[Lapsa]

what's brave?

@ginngie what's your intent posting this?

[Lapsa]

I was saying that that was a fair point

I know

read the thread and let us know what you think

[Lapsa]

what's brave?

your refusal to share reads

did you seriously assume it's me digging?

can tolerate you so hard that your nose starts bleeding.
30+ pages in a blink of an eye

[Lapsa]

I'm declaring protest of silence until Ginngie shares her reads

VOTE: Ginngie

go ahead and waste #6 and a town vote

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Lapsa]

nay

?

[Lapsa]

can you help me get crus lynched

why you want crush lynched?

[Lapsa]

I like Egg. I like Texcat. I think Lexa might be OK too. And if MuttonChop is scum he can just win the game now because I am never ever going to lynch him.

This is probably town ABR which makes Gin's overreaction not so great. But I'm not crazy about FourTrouble either so if I had to fall on one side or the other, I'd probably give Gin the benefit of the doubt since ABR's townplay is designed to do exactly what it's done.

VOTE: Tchill

Look at this cat trying to buddy ABR. That won't end well.

too good? hmm

[Lapsa]

I like Texcat.

Why?

I actually second this, FourTrouble

tex is quite a lurker yet her acts are meaningful and telling

[Lapsa]

What's that mean lapsa?

could you try to guess?

[Lapsa]

VOTE: WhyMafia

[Lapsa]

Spoiler:

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

I don't know what that means but I'm just gonna assume no

Voting who the IC said he'd policy lynch when there's other decent votes on the table looks kinda shitty.

Agree with this

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

Fair enough I suppose

VOTE: whymafia

VOTE: whymafia

?
Are you trying to get a wagon on me to deflect off your scum bud?

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

How so?

Catching up

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.

this is gross
Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive
FoS

oh, btw - what do you think of this post?

VOTE: transcend

Probably not AI, but the fact that he's like the third person to vote him for his vote on the IC is kinda meh imo
Just something to note for the future

Anyways, VOTE: Gamma
You've been in all my games except for the newbie ones I play

Damn a lot of these joined dates are pretty old xd

PMysterious feels town.

This is also weird

[Lapsa]

Spoiler:

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

I don't know what that means but I'm just gonna assume no

Voting who the IC said he'd policy lynch when there's other decent votes on the table looks kinda shitty.

Agree with this

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

Fair enough I suppose

VOTE: whymafia

VOTE: whymafia

?
Are you trying to get a wagon on me to deflect off your scum bud?

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

How so?

Catching up

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.

this is gross
Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive
FoS

oh, btw - what do you think of this post?

VOTE: transcend

Probably not AI, but the fact that he's like the third person to vote him for his vote on the IC is kinda meh imo
Just something to note for the future

Anyways, VOTE: Gamma
You've been in all my games except for the newbie ones I play

Damn a lot of these joined dates are pretty old xd

PMysterious feels town.

This is also weird

could be wifom

[Lapsa]

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.03

Gamma Emerald [7]:

PMysterious, WhyMafia, Egg, platinum, Transcend, Lapsa, Ginngie, Lexa

Transcend [4]:

PenguinPower, Tchill13, pisskop, massive

Crush [2]:

FourTrouble, Transcend

pisskop [1]:

Theta Alpine

texcat [1]:

Albert B. Rampage

platinum [1]:

Gamma Emerald

MuttonChopMagic [1]:

Lore,

WhyMafia [1]:

Vifam,

Lore [1]:

MuttonChopMagic

PenguinPower [1]:

texcat

Not Voting [1]:

Crush,

With

21

alive, it takes

11

to lynch.

Deadline ends in (expired on 2017-06-13 19:30:00) on

June 13th.

Mod Notes:

Holy fucking shit
I think we should ask ourselves "does scum get wagoned this fucking easy?" No it does not. My rushed wagon should indicate that I am Town.

Fair enough, but it could be WIFOM

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

Reading through, and oh my goodness, Gamma really seems scummy this game.

I think it's the exclamation point.

Really an exclamation point makes you scumread me? How would you prefer I wrote it? The exclamation point adds a specific tone I was aiming for.

A case of overreaction. This post felt really unnecessary, as most of us likely know what you were trying to get across to begin with. Maybe it just felt "a little forced". More on that after the next quote.

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

This was kinda just more so rude than anything. A post just saying hello is just a post saying hello. I know this is Mafia and all, but this early in the game, we barely know each other. It's almost as if you're just looking for a reason to try and lynch someone to save your behind for a night.

I don't like either pmyst's or gamma's reaction to lapsa being confirmed town. Pmyst commenting on it being "quick" feels like he wasn't happy about it. Gamma is the exact opposite, seeming to exaggarate his happiness. It's weird how both initially took pisskop's "always town" comment so seriously too. Both players have made a post I liked though (26 and 33).

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

And why does pmyst feel town?

(I see you retracted that)

Not a fan of pisskop buddying to ABR.

Tchill, why the naked vote on transcend?

Whymafia is coming off nervous, but also noticed a couple of the same things I did.

Gamma, what is forced about saying hi?

Theta, care to elaborate on your "reasons"?

Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?

Vote Gamma

Why are you asking me what's forced about it? Fifth Amendment bitch!
I was happy to start what seemed like an exciting game.

Well, this seems like another case of an overreaction. Plus, pleading Fifth Amendment in a game of Mafia really doesn't work.

I'm no expert at Mafia, but overreacting to people voting you or asking you questions of this type really does not scream town at all. That, and the completely jerkish move against someone who just wanted to say "hi" really doesn't help favors.

My vote against you was originally an RV, but now I'm sticking to my guns and saying that you are most definitely scum. My vote on you stays, unless you can convince me otherwise. So, please do tell, what reason do you have on a simple "hi" being so forced?

My platinum vote was to see who'd needlessly pick at it
You read too much into it, looks forced
VOTE: PMysterious

What seems forced about it? It seems genuine to me. I never understood the argument of calling something forced, and therefore the creator is scum. Town needs to analyze posts, do they not? You just dismissed her argument without saying anything specific

It looks to me like you were caught out and hopped back on to him.

Only made worse by the idea that in a 21p game with several known lurkers and this site's crappy meta you put him at l-1.

I doubt some of the players have even read the game yet.

This is me at the moment but I'm reading the thread. Feel townie about ginngie and egg so far.

I have null for ginnigie. What makes you town read ginngie and egg?

I don't know what that means but I'm just gonna assume no

Voting who the IC said he'd policy lynch when there's other decent votes on the table looks kinda shitty.

Agree with this

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

Fair enough I suppose

VOTE: whymafia

VOTE: whymafia

?
Are you trying to get a wagon on me to deflect off your scum bud?

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Four is town
Egg is too.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Gamma isn't.
That's the vote I shall do.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Reasoning?

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

How so?

Catching up

Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?

Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.

this is gross
Lynching transcend is like the easiest wagon
In addition, it's probably a joke vote? I think any player would realize voting a mod confirmed town is completely pointless. Considering it was RVS and the first post in the game, I don't think anything a player posts at that point in the game would have a motive
FoS

oh, btw - what do you think of this post?

VOTE: transcend

Probably not AI, but the fact that he's like the third person to vote him for his vote on the IC is kinda meh imo
Just something to note for the future

Anyways, VOTE: Gamma
You've been in all my games except for the newbie ones I play

Damn a lot of these joined dates are pretty old xd

PMysterious feels town.

This is also weird

did I make it clear yet?

[Lapsa]

Tchill is town

and I think you are scum

feels as if our reads never has any kind of intersection

[Lapsa]

Not really!

try being more space efficient, please

it's plenty enough of a burden trying to decipher mutton

[Lapsa]

Well ok

@Transcend what is your read on WhyMafia?

[Lapsa]

@mod: Frosty Dingleberries, mod, can you not let them do that?

you suspect anyone to continue doing that?

[Lapsa]

Idk haven't read him

that's not enough

[Lapsa]

VOTE: lapsa

Wtf die you error of nature

piece of shit

[Lapsa]

Im going to push your abhorrent disaster of a quote fest out of this page you can suck it

your vote is a piece of shit - much worse than that quote fest

so have a scumread from me

[Lapsa]

@massive what will that achieve?

[Lapsa]

We're not lynching Lapsa.

posts like this proves my point

discussing me or my behavior will lead town nowhere

Albert initiated that hence the scumread

[Lapsa]

Will the Transcend voters move over to ABR or Massive now?

I'm willing to move back on Transcend. how can we resolve that?

[Lapsa]

Yeah under no circumstances have I said I have a strong townread on him. I just said I don't want to ever lynch him. Pure entertainment value is pretty limited in some of these games and you gotta take it where you get it.

ugly backtracking

[Lapsa]

Im going to push your abhorrent disaster of a quote fest

out of this page you can suck it

and the worst part about this is that Albert gives himself a permission to fence sit

you may belong in a museum, I'm fine with that

but if you refuse to play the game - you deserve a rope

[Lapsa]

on other news:

I'm certain that WhyMafia is town

wouldn't trust his opinion though

[Lapsa]

Theta's play looks completely different than here.

I'm also scumreading Theta

but I think there's bigger fish to fry

[Lapsa]

kinda think massive voting lapsa was a dumbtell for town

no. too easy

[Lapsa]

Tchill is town

FourTrouble is lean scum

scumhunting much

[Lapsa]

@Transcend what's your read on Crush?

[Lapsa]

Quote me saying I townread him.

it looks as if you intentionally kept it open that way

nobody cares - nice, you have successfully buddied mutton
somebody cares - there's always path to retreat

[Lapsa]

where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

I don't see connection there

[Lapsa]

I'm willing to give him

[massive]

the benefit of the doubt.

which is better than Ginngie's townread

[Lapsa]

no one is wagoning with you because im not caught scum because i am not scum.

I think I might join that

[Lapsa]

where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

I don't see connection there

you dont see the connection between your quote spam and them voting on you, an IC?

or you dont see the connection between the lack of votes on

two

three people voting for the IC and the fact that you did something quite irritating and spammy before that?

or you dont think they are getting a pass?

I dont understand your question

fact that I did something irritating and spammy is not related to why there aren't votes on massive/abr

it looks like you are tryharding to look analytical and failing at that

I recommend you acting a fool

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE: WhyMafia

[Lapsa]

I do think they are rather scummy but massive says it was a gambit and honestly i am watching this wagon build on myself with quite a bit of interest now. Its mostly driven by mutton and transcend which is interesting to me. I admit i am a bit skittish this game, its my first real game on this site and the style is quite a bit different than I am used to. Yall shit post a lot more and seem to pick up on things from each other that I wouldn't think to give a second glance at but I assume some of it is from meta I dont yet know and some of it is scum scumming. I am still trying to untangle what that is.

VOTE: Lore

[Lapsa]

pisskop is town

[Lapsa]

I'm trying to decide what I think about mutton.

how are you doing so far?

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE: Lore

[Lapsa]

fuk the Lexa

VOTE: Lexa

[Lapsa]

hey lapsa what are your strongest reads right now
town or scum, both are useful - don't die a readless cow

read the thread. I'm being fairly vocal about my reads

[Lapsa]

Read first then

so eager

[Lapsa]

I think Penguin; I guess you think Theta. But scum could easily be Vifam or Platinum. I'd like to lynch into that pool of 4, but it wouldn't tell us much and so is probably not the best lynch on Day1.

and with that - texcat qualifies as town. congratulations!

[Lapsa]

How

how so eager? perhaps scum

[Lapsa]

hey lapsa what are your strongest reads right now
town or scum, both are useful - don't die a readless cow

read the thread. I'm being fairly vocal about my reads

also - I normally don't change my townreads unless I'm forced to

[Lapsa]

Lol.

Some people just cant howdo solve game.

Instead of making efforts, whymaf is going to make an easy vote for theory reasons this late in the day?

Boon spoiled efforts

[Lapsa]

No
How does Tex's post make her so towny

perhaps you should ask her. might learn something

[Lapsa]

ANSWER!

Thank you, that's all.

cute

[Lapsa]

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

kinda think ANSWER! was a dumbtell for Lexa

[Lapsa]

PM’s 193 is gross. Okay so you want to know why he’s voting gamma, sure. Why in the world are you giving him options to choose from? Why the fuck is one of those options hinting towards a power role?! If he is one why would he say it?? If he’s town why would you want him to out it? What is even the point of options 1 and 3. I’m almost inclined to think of this as town because this would be super clumsy as a scum rolefishing attempt but this just looks hugely like you’re trying to fluff your posts.

[Lapsa]

UNVOTE: Lexa

[Lapsa]

I agree, pre flips are pretty shitty
however, if lore flips scum, the odds of me ever being lynched this game are itty bitty
this means I'm a potential nk if lore is lynched and flips red
and scum wants to wifom around doc with lapsa the Fed
I wanted my stance on that to be very clear
if lore is flipped scum, you have a high shot of being a partner my dear
of course it's not lock, thatd be crazy
you could contribute to town and not be lazy
you dug your heels in and didn't give reads, fine
I think we'd both agree it's just about time

Sick flow!

[Lapsa]

thoughts post-thread reread

Yeah under no circumstances have I said I have a strong townread on him. I just said I don't want to ever lynch him. Pure entertainment value is pretty limited in some of these games and you gotta take it where you get it.

ugly backtracking

Had the same reaction to this, massive’ first post some pages previous looked nicely town but this change of pace isn’t a good look

haha

get rekt, massive

[Lapsa]

Abr also has avoided a lot of attention.

True story.

that's brave

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

you ain't that stupid

[Lapsa]

Can you please explain your vote more because this is extremely fucking vague.

don't give a fuck

[Lapsa]

It's in town's best interest for you to explain

it's pointless talking to scum. that just gives them room to wiggle

Gamma Emerald is scum - that's what you need to know

[Lapsa]

it is VERY hard to mirror my thought process and he did it that son of a gun.

elaborate, please

[Lapsa]

hee had the same three scumreads as me before i even outed them i think

how do you know he mirrored your thought process?

can you confirm he outed them first?

[Lapsa]

Lapsa I think it will help if you actually tell us why you have a strong scum read on gamma

didn't you already said that?

[Lapsa]

Stop taking being confirmed town for granted

and this is why your opinion is worthless

[Lapsa]

Why can't town be clear with one another, I never understood that about this site.

because scum can use that

[Lapsa]

id lynch whymaf today based on his oppurtunistic scumreads

I find him genuine

can't imagine #570 coming from a scum mindset

emotional, aimless, over the top, self righteously disobedient and consistent in his noble aspiration to scumhunt

[Lapsa]

aren't you laughing your ass off?

[Lapsa]

Transcend ignored my #1007 (Last visited: Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:02 pm)

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looks as intentional vote-hop over VC 1.06

explains his "mistake" in reads list

6. Lore - town

jesus christ

lore is scum pmyst is town

also:

-Transcend has too many town reads.

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

Everyone is towny this game

ugly

[Lapsa]

Pretty much

Since ya kno only 33% of the game or less can be mafia

superb defense

[Lapsa]

@everyone

do a quick iso through town Transcend on NY196

single #49 shows more involvement than all of his posts here combined

this is scum Transcend - bold and shallow

[Lapsa]

What does scum transcend look like?

can't remember if I've seen scum Transcend yet

This definitely looks different, I just am hesitant because I doubt he would have such a noticeable difference

when in doubt - just sheep the sum of my townreads and you won't ruin the game

[Lapsa]

muttonchopmagic=town
not entirely sure whether the posting restriction would be town or not
or whether that is a posting restriction or just how you play
but i do actually like a lot of your posts and either way the rhyming is fun and kind of refreshing to see in this game

and his name contains "magic"

magic creatures are always town aligned

centaurs, pixies, faerie dragons to name few

[Lapsa]

Abr hasn't been around in a while.

probably will come up with a fake claim tomorrow

[Lapsa]

Who do you scum read lapsa?

Transcend

[Lapsa]

I can't rub my balls on your pillow when you weren't home, i dont have balls.

[Lapsa]

Abr hasn't been around in a while.

probably will come up with a fake claim tomorrow

Is this something he does?

most scum are capable of fake claiming

[Lapsa]

Either way, I agree with this read a lot myself.

chill

you are prob town according to Transcend

[Lapsa]

Lapsa, why is pisskop town?

I know him well enough

[Lapsa]

The Pyramid

pharaoh:

egg

viziers:

fourT, pisskop, texcat

priests:

ginngie, mutton, lexa

scribes:

massive, gamma

craftsmen:

whyMafia, lore, tchill, crush

slaves:

penguin, albert

garbage:

pmysterious, platinum, vifam, theta, transcend

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Disclaimer:

this (kinda) reveals my reads

more importantly:

provides very specific structure how I believe town should operate

take it for what it is -

Lapsa's trust pyramid

.
keep it detached from game flow and power roles

it should be most useful for town coordination

when in doubt - just sheep the sum of my townreads and you won't ruin the game

players are sorted by a mixture of trust and subjectively weighted skill level (+ some other considerations)

I trust only 2 highest tiers in complete cooperation to ever modify it.
lower ranking players should sheep higher ranking players unless that hinders proactive scumhunting.
lower ranking players should obey higher ranking players when asked to do so

I believe that "craftsmen" are most susceptible for scum manipulations and might end up in lylo

P.s. watch out for slave revolts

[Lapsa]

No opinion

Kill lore

stop pushing mislynch, Transcend

[Lapsa]

garbage:
pmysterious, platinum, vifam, theta, transcend

So whoever posts less than 10 times and whoever pisses you off is garbage

Lol

Inb4 discredit call

I bet that mirrors thought process of your siblings

[Lapsa]

Okay then
While I'll take your ideas into consideration I'm not just gonna bow to any of your high townreads who tries to lead me around
Also why the hell did this never show up in NY199?

I don't expect anyone to blindly follow it - that would be stupid

NY199 sucked. mainly because of Titus

[Lapsa]

Although, I must ask, what exactly does it take to be in the Garbage area of the tier, anyway?

playing in a way I can't trust a single bit

Wouldn't you rather place those guys in other categories, since it almost means nothing?

it means fuckton

no - you wouldn't elect complete stranger or biggest crook as a president just to know him

hierarchy is what makes it different from regular reads list

[Lapsa]

Shoot: Lore

L8z

stop pushing for mislynch, Transcend

[Lapsa]

@pmysterious

you would be decent slave or perhaps even tier higher

but your ISO is shit, you don't appear genuinely clueless and for some reason Transcend enjoys hardcore townreading you

[Lapsa]

Whymafia's reaction to the case on theta interests me more than the case itself. It looks like another "a lot of words" situation where he goes "oh cool" and votes.
When asked about it, he seems to have trouble saying what he actually agreed with (see the parenthesis where he second guesses and says he's being hypocritical).

perhaps pisskop's read on whymafia could be useful here.
I suspect that latest interactions might have made him a convert

Theta slot is shit

[Lapsa]

Lapsa, why do you think Lore's town?

not the case. Lore read can go both ways

[Lapsa]

Theta slot is shit

You should help me build this wagon!

I sort of agree idea that it won't yield much information

[Lapsa]

someone asked me where transcend was game-solving
look at 458 696 852 and 990
then tell me what you think

rofl

[Lapsa]

I sort of agree idea that it won't yield much information

We shouldn't lynch based on how much information it'll give us. You win games by lynching the scum, not by having a few more pieces of information.

If information is your only concern with Theta, you're effectively telling the scum to post as little as possible, since that'd limit how much information their flips give. It's a bad precedent to set and one that doesn't win games. That said, if you want to know what information we'd get from Theta, there's more than it appears. It's clear that people are avoiding the lynch, and that they're pushing folks like Tchill/Lore/Transcend over Theta. There's a lot of information to gain from that.

okay okay...

VOTE: Theta Alpine

[Lapsa]

btw, Transcend is scum

[Lapsa]

Transcend is scum

[Lapsa]

mafTigers 4 layf

[Lapsa]

Lapsa, I feel like pisskop and texcat are too high on your pyramid especially with your comment about not changing it without full cooperation from the top two tiers.
I'd prefer for any of your two "priests" to be there instead.

it is not supposed to be modified that easily

[Lapsa]

By the way I have no idea what to think of the concept of the pyramid. Is that a routine thing? Is that just something lapsa did? I'm foreign to the concept.

have never seen anything like that either

reads list on steroids

[Lapsa]

still dont like FT

steal the show

[Lapsa]

-1

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

bye

[Lapsa]

Vedith's a scribe

[Lapsa]

Vedith's a scribe

Fuck you Lapsa!

Fuck you Vedith!

[Lapsa]

Vedith's a scribe

Fuck you Lapsa!

Fuck you Vedith!

I was going to read your iso because an IC role is to post 10 times and be useless. Who's Scum?

Transcend

[Lapsa]

That looks like a town Transcend btw.

has he changed his town play?

[Lapsa]

Lets just remember - Confirmed town doesn't mean confirmed reads.

don't you dare discrediting me

[Lapsa]

@pmysterious do you find #804 to be mostly fluff?

[Lapsa]

@pmysterious do you find #804 to be mostly fluff?

ignored

[Lapsa]

Transcend ignored my #1007 (Last visited: Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:02 pm)

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looks as intentional vote-hop over VC 1.06

explains his "mistake" in reads list

6. Lore - town

jesus christ

lore is scum pmyst is town

also:

-Transcend has too many town reads.

VOTE: Transcend

hee had the same three scumreads as me before i even outed them i think

how do you know he mirrored your thought process?

can you confirm he outed them first?

ignored

[Lapsa]

this is scum Transcend - bold and shallow

[Lapsa]

Transcend is scum

[Lapsa]

Transcend is scum

Don't go down the road that Trans is and people just go "whatever".
If Trans is really scum, I can tell you now that we won't be lynching him today from these kind of comments.
Who else is scum?

VOTE: Transcend

\_O_/

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

also if i am scum like you propose then what makes you think i'll be "surprised" upon your flip

Good catch, but it isn't a slip. I was speaking from the viewpoint that you're holding up (e.g. that you're town). So: If you're town, like you say, you'll be in for a surprise. If you actually s ta rt reading too much into this I'll be more tempted to vote for you.

that is a slip. Transcend`s scumslip

nothing good about that "catch"

[Lapsa]

people call me useless yet I'm voting my #1 scumread

how da fuck is it possible to get more useful than that?

[Lapsa]

i'm beginning to wonder if this guy is confirmation biased

you aren't wondering, you are discrediting

Transcend I know is capable of deep analysis.
I expect Transcend's reads to be well substantiated akin to e.g. Egg's reads

[Lapsa]

The first time I played Transcendscum he acted powertown

[Lapsa]

fack off ya dip

keep switching your avatars - butt buddying wins the games

I AM KAIN TEPPES!!1111111ELEVEN

[Lapsa]

Transcend I know is capable of deep analysis.
I expect Transcend's reads to be well substantiated akin to e.g. Egg's reads

i don't do deep analysis til later in the game and my reads aren't that substantiated in any game

so humble

fuck you & eat the rope

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

you've played 2 games with me, that was when i first started on the site

others in here have played at least 10 games with me and lo and behold they're not voting me.

they understand me better thanyou do.

they ain't voting me either.
you are tunneling Lore w/o any case as if my tunnel on you gives you some kind of permission to do so

you are scum, Transcend. bold, shallow, well informed and manipulative

man up and share your thoughts on #1035

or keep sniffing butts, get tunneled and cry about useless IC

VOTE: Transcend

[Lapsa]

and yeah naked voting me 9 times in a row followed by saying something was a scumslip when it wasn't actually led me to believe you were just being confbiased at this point

silly me huh

that's a level up - from discredit calls to being confbiased

how about you playing the game?

[Lapsa]

hee had the same three scumreads as me before i even outed them i think

how do you know he mirrored your thought process?

can you confirm he outed them first?

i actually think he did out them bc i was catching upsaw he postedand his reads mirrored mine fromwhen i was catching up. thus removed my vote on him, thus voted someone else.

which scumreads are you talking about? I'm pretty sure there were more than 3 out of Gamma

what are those mirrored thoughts?

from my POV it looks like you just buddied Gamma and wave your hands up in air when asked how so

[Lapsa]

i do havea case

she's scummy. her posts aren't natural. they're very awkward. i don't like her progression.what even is her progression. she's doing thingswhen instructed to do it, not on her own personal agenda. her reactions are bad.

which reactions?

quote them and explain why they are bad

[Lapsa]

people call me useless yet I'm voting my #1 scumread

how da fuck is it possible to get more useful than that?

And yet you won't help others see it too
Just because we know the perspective is a town one doesn't mean it's a right one

Transcend ignores and discredits me

there is no meaningful discussion with him

if you can't see that - you are myopic fool

[Lapsa]

@transcend make a decent case on Lore

this is garbage:

Spoiler:

No opinion

Kill lore

Oh wait lore is obvscum

VOTE: lore

Shoot: Lore

L8z

cool but lore's scum

i was here first

we lynch lore first

because lore is scum

i don't' understandthe lore resistance !!!!!

okay well i do she's scum

pisskop as of lately has been junkthough

i mean i've been junktoo but that's shit-posty junk he's actual junk

Gladiate: Lore

Let's go to town motherfucker

but lore's scum

penguin's prob town

VOTE: lore

VOTE: lore

VOTE: lore

oh cool a pmyst bw

VOTE: lore

I doubt most of the folks voting Lore could explain how Lore is scummier than Theta.

Her iso

Tldr

Vote lore

2132 literally reads "hey lore needs to be saved, let's make up a bullshit reason to vote transcend".

it chillin

we can lynch lore w/o the ic

[Lapsa]

at least you're explaining things now

fuck you

Let's try to stay away from direct insults.

[Lapsa]

none of them were super strong so i felt gamma was giving genuine reads and not just copying mine.

that's a shitty reason for dismissing plagiarism

[Lapsa]

i do havea case

she's scummy. her posts aren't natural. they're very awkward. i don't like her progression.what even is her progression. she's doing thingswhen instructed to do it, not on her own personal agenda. her reactions are bad.

can say same about you. there's no accountability

[Lapsa]

but if you lynch lore and he flips town I'll lynch transcend for you if that desire is still around

what da fuck

[Lapsa]

@transcend

won't spam naked votes anymore - will give you that

won't change my vote - for memes.
you don't need IC to lynch Lore anyway

[Lapsa]

i just need to see evidence for WM, i dont see it yet. i can be convinced but telling me "he is scum" doesnt convince me, especially since you have no special knowledge yo ucould have or anything.
also we need 11 people and i dont see that many people willing yet.

for Christ's sake - help her, Vedith!

[Lapsa]

and if i vote whymafia before i see the case

who's case?

[Lapsa]

and if i vote whymafia before i see the case

who's case?

any case

you got one?