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We can

vote:I Am Innocent

to save the mod from having to replace him.

Less than 20 hours from this post and on page 28...you ain't joking!

But those who know me know I <3 the mod, so I'm in this for better or worse. Patience while I catch up.

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Sorry still on page 3. Friday might be a good day to plow thru this

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Catching up now. Thanks for your patience all.

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Going "I'M NEW HAHA IT WOULD JUST BE

TOOOO

EASY TO MISLYNCH ME! BECAUSE I'M SOOOOO NEW HAHA!" means that you're self aware that you're scummy and are trying to avoid lynch for it.
Instead, don't be scummy? new =/= town???

I want to point out that Nauci is even newer than VC Voyager.

Oh the irony.

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UNVOTE:

I don't like leaving people at L-1

Really?

What would I be holding off self hammering for exactly?

IaI catch up.

On page 20, need to get the kiddos down before I can resume. What I can share is there are at least 4 questionable cats on the quick wagon so I doubt he's scum just from that.

As of page 20 whiskers and nauci are my top 2 suspects.

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Sorry 9 year old asked me for a sleepover/Star Wars night in the living room last night. Have an hour now before I have to get ready and leave for a wedding. Will try to speed this catchup up

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I'm here Bee and you've yet to engage me. You avoiding me you scumfuck?

I feel like they are both people we are voting for are doing the same thing. 2inMil and Nauci have a trend of talking about Cabd early into voting IaI for god knows what purpose and I feel pretty shitty about both those slots fpr that/ The only difference between the 2 is that Nauci took a more "Cabd is town" approach from it which i kinda liked more, since the Cabd is anti-town approach was the mass consensus at the time.
Nauci also strike me to not be very experienced so I just don't know what pursuing her this early is going to accomplish? Which is why I am voting where I am.

But like at the same time I am fine pressuring both cause they are just doing the same shit and it is equally not that great.

Just a self note if/when Nauci flips scum

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hi gerryboat, i hope you dont scumread me for defending and being associated with two towns this game

it would be great if you could vote the scum known as UC

here we go again lol

yeah, he's horrible. He's like an extra scum member. He's prob town as are you and UC.

Long time ago for you, but curious if you still read UC as town. I'm not a fan of that slot to this point.

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FOS is finger of suspicion.

What do you think about the wagon on you?

I forgot to directly answer this.

I don't have any particular reads as a result of the suspicion on me.

I understand why my joke about dunking lurkers sounds scummy if not taken as a joke. As I said before, the bits analyzing my read on Cabd get rather WIFOM when I was just offering up my perspective on something important to us.

I'd like to think that people will be more understanding of my low intel, few reads situation.

I don't think it's particularly telling if anyone was on me because they thought I was being scummy or if any actual scum were trying to drive an easy mislynch-the-new-person wagon. At least, not as telling as people's reactions to a claimed can-prove-today town PR.

NO, NO, NO. You do not get to hide behind "my joke about dunking lurkers" when you voted someone who hadn't posted in the game (me). Actions speak louder than words buddy!

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Alisae is coming off pro-town so that's prob scum.

LQ's gimmick alt is just that...a gimmick. I'm not all that sure if he's scum hiding behind said gimmick or not. 666 was a shit reaction though.

But those who know me know I <3 the mod

YOU ARE A MARRIED MAN!

Yeah please don't say anything to my wife

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Alisae and beeboy, why do you SR quick

Not liking beeboy's scum read of TIAM and Nauci, but less for Nauci, but when jumping off TIAM it's quickly on to quick. Totally bypassing Nauci. Curious to see interactions between between these two and whiskers here on out.

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Rhah. Like that just looks like active lurking scum.

Oh gods help me I find myself agreeing with nero cain.

rude.

Get a room you two.

Get a room cabd, Nero and quick

That's generally NOT how I like to enter a thread upon being gone a bit.

He actually has done this much of the game so far

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@Flubber why are you scum reading me?

@Gerryoat I don't have much in terms of town reads cause when I read people as town I tend to lock them in for awhile... so like I guess that's better for me?
UC, Nero Cain, Joey_ and to a lesser degree Axle who I keep hopping around on.
There are more people I don't want to lynch right now but I wouldn't really call those people town reads more "I want to wait to see how my read develops" sort of deal.

Terrible scum reads, not sure why the nauci scum read went away.

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@Flubber why are you scum reading me?

@Gerryoat I don't have much in terms of town reads cause when I read people as town I tend to lock them in for awhile... so like I guess that's better for me?
UC, Nero Cain, Joey_ and to a lesser degree Axle who I keep hopping around on.
There are more people I don't want to lynch right now but I wouldn't really call those people town reads more "I want to wait to see how my read develops" sort of deal.

Terrible scum reads, not sure why the nauci scum read went away.

Never mind those are town reads not scum reads sorry

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votecount 1.26

Dunkerdoodles (5) - Cabd, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Whiskers
Whiskers (5) - Flubbernugget, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy, Quick

Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles
Rhah (1) - HolySpiritTurtle

Not voting (5) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

Going to:

VOTE: Whiskers

There are a few reasons for this.

First, the fact that they are not questioning the double day thing
Second, they said they wanted to PL me when they haven't even played with me bofore
Third, they are more concerned with defending themselves than pushing their Scum reads. You can see this in the tone and language that they use. Its just off and doesn't ring like they are innocent.

I hate this vote btw.

It's the same person ur voting for??!??

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{Shiro, Alisae, IAI, Dunk, Axle, Flubber, Joey_}

^

Vig pool

Horrible list

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joey/beeboy/holyspirit/turtle/someone else
now shoot me already

Not a bad list, tho joey is pretty townie

Missing whiskers, nauci, maybe flubber.

Those 6 players are ur lynch pool, if anything is evident between this post and now I'd love to hear it.

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UC too

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I've 3/7 of my scum reads ended up being town.
I am so good at this game.

Or are just scum with fake reads

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In a game that heavily relies on communications, I really have no hope in this game when 80% of the people are circlejerking misunderstanding (or intentionally misrepresenting) each other.

Please have reads by page 100, sick of the non scumhunting garbage you post all game

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Town:
Nero Cain
Rhah
HST
beeboy
Cabd
gerryoat
Whiskers
Quick
TIAM
Nauci

Middle of the way / don't really care sorting rn:
Alisae

Can die today (aka leftovers):
IAI
Axle
Flubber
Joey_
UCV

Special Exception:
Shiro

Ok that was too funny!!!

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Tho in all fairness not impressed with those reads

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You're saying there's only three scum?

Is this a slip?

3 scum in an 18 player game. I don't foresee town [insert name here] ever believing this.

Which means ur question is all about casting shade.

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Do you town read me IAI?

Yeah. You still good with whiskers cause I'm strongly suspecting scum there.

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You're saying there's only three scum?

no?

CABD is not team scum.

Rhah is probs not scum.

Gerry might as well be scum regardless of pm color.

My point is this doesn't really seem like a "counterwagon" as you are suggesting.

You could plausibly say that

if

gerry and I are scum then we hopped on the wagon that town was forming to counter mine, and drove it to "lynch,"

If I am town then Dunk's wagon was made entirely of town (possible exception of gerry), and the scum are elsewhere: in lurkers and

on my wagon.

I'm wondering if beeboy is the bus vote on ur wagon.

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no. :/ she's scum. Why would I be good with scum?

No I meant still good with voting her? Haven't checked the recent vote count but thought her wagon had dwindled

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VOTE: Quick

I am going back to this.

Cough cough definitely the bus vote cough cough

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vote whiskers

About 2/3 thru the catch-up. Got a list of 6 people in my lynch pool. Highly doubt quick is scum, please more whisker votes!

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VOTE: Quick

I am going back to this.

Cough cough definitely the bus vote cough cough

> calls it a bus vote
> not voting either of them

What are you talking about? I'm suggesting beeboy was bussing whiskers and lazily got off whiskers on to town quick

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VOTE: Quick

I am going back to this.

By all means, what is your case on me

I'd reply to this but I highly doubt if your town you even care.

Like he won't even give reasons for the switch!!!

Forget to quick, what about "other" town he would want to convince??!?

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My lynch preference is
Whiskers
Nauci
Beeboy
UCV

HST

Flubber

No read on shiro, rest of list is likely town

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Why do you need to reread?

To buy scum time to jump in and participate D2?

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Vote Whiskers

This should have happened yesterday.

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My apologies to all. I will get into this game.

VOTE: IaI

I town read you early on. Like pretty hard. So I want to sort you out to see if I'm right, and also want to allow you the chance to sort me out if I'm right. If I'm wrong, well then you are just scum pushing for a mislynch.

Late D1 you called me fence sitting on Quick vs. Flubber. This was AFTER I said that Quick was town, and had four scummy players on the wagon. Later I produced my six scummiest reads. Flubber was on there.

The one thing you couldn't see (which was on my notes) but if you go back to D1 is that the interactions between Flubber and Whiskers point to some of the best distancing I've ever seen, or one of them is town.

I don't recall the exact order of my list, but Whiskers/Nauci were/are my top 2, and Flubber was a distant third.

So here was my dilemma:

Vote Quick - who I was pretty sure was town
Vote Flubber - who if I was right about Whiskers was also town
Vote Whiskers - who had many people suspect/vote him throughout the day

I went with option 3. I wanted to see if we could get a wagon going on Whiskers. I've seen quicker wagons on scum late in the day than what I was throwing out there.

But fencesitting, really???? Flubber was on my list of scum reads and I already said Quick was town. Nero even pointed it out late D1 that 'IAI will prob vote Flubber'. It was friggin obvious!

******

Flubber early D2 you asked if I caught up. I still had another 30 pages from D1, and have fallen behind D2. I had one of my reports who works out of state visiting all week and it killed not only my days but evenings. They fly out this evening, so I should be able to get back into this.

From everything I've read, if you want to catch scum vote in:

{Whiskers/Nauci/Beeboy}

Prob another in {HST/UC,their replacement}

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I'm not lynching anything without a case.

If I'm the only one that's going to make cases this game, then I'm only ever going to vote my reads, and good fucking luck to the rest of you.

Town is inactive af and that's what's going to lose us the game.

Can you tell me your reads?

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One of my issues is I am not really sure how i should approach interacting with Axle which makes this kinda tricky for me.

Can you tell me your reads?

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Obviously I've been reading UCV slot as scum and you don't, so I wanted to know if that's because you don't think lurking is scummy, especially since UCV was active in other places.

Can you tell me your reads?

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You three do that, I'll make sure to be fully caught up this weekend. Trust me coming up with fake reads will be easier than the sleep I'm going to give up to be caught up... :p

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I repeat myself a lot but its w/e, i dont buy it soz. Also basically calling me mafia if i dont drop my fos on you is absurd, there a very objective reason why i scumread you

Yeah that’s not what I said at all. Actually ur response to my post was pretty townie, despite still suspecting me. Strengthened my TR of u

As for my actions end of D1, I had two options:

1) continue trying to catch up
2) push the wagon I felt best about (whiskers)

I obviously went with #1. And hoped the people that previously voted whiskers (and there were many) would see an alternative viable option. So I voted whiskers, observed how people were responding, continued to try to catch up, and disappointedly stood by as the speed lynch wagon I wanted never took off.

My question to you is you seem to regard fence sitting as scummy. Would you characterize Whiskers no vote as fence sitting? Lack of reads??? (Despite promising them mid D1)

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oranges vs apples basically, whiskers would be a very informative lynch too but imo would just confirm my scumreads

That’s pretty much how I feel about flubber.

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Joey, look at Lucky's wagon. it's a good wagon. no scum on it.

U missed nauci

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in the meantime, we can all lynch scum Gerry.

Nero I’m having trouble seeing where this scum read of Gerry is coming from. He bleeds pretty town from my perspective.

I get why Joey rubs people the wrong way but I also think he’s town too. Wish he didn’t replace out due to the size of this game, then again maybe his replacement will have better reads.

For those of you refusing to vote whiskers, can you explain why? He is as obv scum as I’ve ever played with.

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Judging interest in wagons before starting them,

like this tells me that you aren't even interested in accurate information. I think you are probs scum that wants to go along with whatever is popular majority.

That's why I voted you instead of the top wagon, right?

Lmao.

This is becoming more and more clear why Joey replaced out..

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

Iso whiskers
Vote whiskers
Take N2 to catch up
.
.
Profit

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For those of you refusing to vote whiskers, can you explain why? He is as obv scum as I’ve ever played with.

Whats your take on Joey having OMGUS scum reads on all 3 town that attacked him but not Whiskers. I mean, his spiel was that he had a town read on Whiskers...though I'm a bit hesitant to buy it.

Whiskers went pretty hard on Joey early D1, didn’t get the impression it was scum theatrics. I’m more thinking town Joey has bad scumreads vs scum Joey

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What made you ISO Whiskers?

seconded

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Crap I thought Nero asked why you townread whiskers...that’s what I want to know.

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What made you ISO Whiskers?

seconded

You literally asked me to ISO Whiskers.

How fucking daft..

Dude keep this up and you and I are going to have problems.

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Whines about me not reading 128 pages, can't even read the post I quoted immediately before his post..

6 mins just feels like a short time for you to read his post then read a 200+ post ISO. *shrugz*

also Lucky is prob town. So far you are 0 for 3.

Yeah I’m starting to agree on both of these slots.

I’ll go thru my notes on town Gerry later. Just trust me for now.

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Crap I thought Nero asked why you townread whiskers...that’s what I want to know.

I mean.. it's pretty painfully obvious from his posts that he's been trying to get town to actually give information. I can follow his reads and I like his reasons for them. None of them feel forced and his interactions with my scumreads don't feel suspicious.

Pedit: lmao, not my fault you didn't read what you were quoting dude.

You don’t have to be a prick about it tho.

And what whisker reads??? He doesn’t post any and is refusing to vote! Biggest scum tell ever.

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I mean if I had to choose between Lucky and Flubber ina choose Flubb but he's a little nullish to me.

Almost every scummy player is on the flubber wagon tho.

Still want whiskers beeboy or nauci.

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HST is another.

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I scum read IAI because I read his scum reads as town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also I didn't scum read Viomi regardless of her read of me

I will agree to be today’s lynch if the next 3 are you, whiskers, and beeboy after I flip town. Agreed?

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VOTE: Shiro

You should be a wagon.

I scum read IAI because I read his scum reads as town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also I didn't scum read Viomi regardless of her read of me

I will agree to be today’s lynch if the next 3 are you, whiskers, and beeboy after I flip town. Agreed?

Ew

Reference to your reads?

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ya this is scum.

Agreed. This game is pretty obv who the scum are.

The game you quoted earlier with the crappy masons which we played together, this really is deja vu isn’t it lol?

If it wasn’t for u and pie I’d have been gone a long time ago.

Reiterating, I’m willing to vote in whiskers, nauci, beeboy, HST

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HST, who is scum again? 3-5 names

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HST, who is scum again? 3-5 names

None of the names you listed.

Humor me with the actual names then.

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Ew

Reference to your reads?

You say this with the reads you have lol

Whatever you say buddy. Keep sucking up the joint, I’ll have someone to blame post game.

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Why is whiskers so impossible to lynch then!?!!

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I'm slowly coming around on a flub lynch, I suppose.

Remember this post when flub flips town

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votecount 2.13

Flubbernugget (5) - HolySpiritTurtle, Whiskers, Viomi, Rhah, MathBlade

Lucky2u (2) - gerryoat, Nauci
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Flubbernugget
Viomi (2) - Lucky2u, TwoInAMillion
gerryoat (1) - AxleGreaser
Shiro (1) - Nero Cain

Not voting (2) - Shiro, beeboy

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is November 1, 03:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-01 03:00:00).

beeboy is V/LA indefinitely.

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Flubs, I know you are at L-3, but you should prob claim at this point.

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Other than a little trick or treating with the kiddos tonight, I should be in and out for the rest of the day. My thoughts on the wagons are:

Flubber - Too many scummy players are voting him, no thanks.
Lucky - Nauci is one of the two people on that wagon, not joining that scum (already hinted he was going to move to Flubber adding to the number of scum players on that wagon)
Whiskers - GREAT LYNCH...DESPITE HALF THE PEOPLE SUSPECTING HIM HE CONTINUES TO BE HARDER TO GET RID OF THAN TRUMP
Viomi - Prob town, but would prob lean towards this over others mentioned above.
Gerry - Move your vote already Axle, it ain't happening
Shiro - Would probably be my 2nd favorite wagon here, over viomi

Not voting - Shiro, beeboy....no excuses 16+ hrs from the deadline. Then again beeboy is scum so not surprised

beeboy is V/LA indefinitely. WTH???

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If anyone wants to flashlynch scum Nauci, I'm all in favor of that too!

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VOTE: Whiskers

I was intending on sheeping Nero in my next post if he was voting someone I scum read so I guess this works.

I'd still prefer Dunker tbh.


I kinda want to know why Flubber is scum reading me, it almost feels setup.
I also want IaI to catch up ;-;

Beeboy's one good vote, look at his follow-up post...gave himself an out right away lol.

Whiskers/Beeboy/Nauci/?

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I could go for Nuaci.

Let's do it!

unvote Whiskers
vote Nauci

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When I said I could be persuaded to vote whiskers or quick

I forgot to mention

COMRADES, JOIN ME ON THE GLORIOUS NERO LUNCH TRAIN

WE HAVE COOKIES

I have to be up for work in 3 hours for another 18 hour work day.

-Willing to vote UC, Quick, and HST, in that order.

-Could be talked into whiskers or Gerry with a convincing case.

-Voting for Quick because A: would give us the most info upon flip (I'm strongly of the opinion that he and flub are both town or both scum), B: would cut down the % of bicker posts that give me raw emotional facepalming hot takes that make me think less clearly, and C: I'M SO READY TO END D1 (but this one is only a minor influence because I think it's a shit reason to vote someone).

IMO HST has had a lot of filler and a bit of distraction posting upon ISOing.

Rhah, POST MORE.

How long before IAI or shiro replacements?

P.S. There's an *incredibly* small chance that Cabd is a FUCKING GENIUS with a VERY ABNORMAL role who is scum with Rhah and TIAM and has been playing us all like puppets. But I'm pretty sure dayshot is banned on scum. Still, I would be so happy if someone shot TIAM tonight on that .00001% chance.

Yeah Whiskers is where I'd expect him to be. Willing to bus, I mean vote, but need to be convinced, AKA lot of pressure on him before I'll hop on too.

Less sure of HST as a 4th scum. Doubt rookie Nauci goes and sticks to teammates in his top 5 lynch candidates.

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"IMO HST has had a lot of filler and a bit of distraction posting upon ISOing." Then again this gives him an out later for a changed read.

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And then y'all are gonna be back in square 1 because Shiro lynch yielded no info and even more circlejerking will happen, probably until endgame.

But it's not Shiro, it's scum Nauci...

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If everyone on the Flubber wagon says "If Flubber flips town I'll vote Whiskers tomorrow", I'll compromise to Flubber. But I can see where this is going to go. Flubber will flip town and Whiskers will continue to be ignored going forward.

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And then y'all are gonna be back in square 1 because Shiro lynch yielded no info and even more circlejerking will happen, probably until endgame.

The Shiro lynch isn't even what is being pushed...like for realz??? Stop trying to pretend that...you come in as soon as NAUCI is the flash wagon.

Yeah, back in my lynch pool HST...

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If Flubber flips town I'll vote Whiskers tomorrow

I'd like Nauci and Mr V/LA indefinitely on this too.

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Also it's not the

Nauci

flashwagon that I have problem with.
It's Nauci

flashwagon

that I have problem with.

Ahhhhh

Sorry not buying it.

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Don't provoke me.
I'm already trying as hard as I can to not replace out.

Sorry not trying to be a prick, just don't like you suddenly appearing trying to derail a good counterwagon to Flubber.

Not sure why you care about those not on Flubber wagon moving their votes around...

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unvote nauci
Vote whiskers

I tried

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HST>>>>Whiskers>>>Gerry>>Viomi>>>Shiro>>>Flubb>>>lucky

is my lynch order I think

Whiskers or flub at this point I don’t see another viable wagon

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Axle, Gerry please move to whiskers

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You know two of those three are voting flubber. Switch to whiskers?

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@2IAM

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I’ll be awake 30 mins before the deadline

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ever tried to lynch Whiskers beyond going "OMG LYNCH WHISKERS" you'd probably have lynched Whiskers by now.

I do want to point out though, IaI, that the entirety of your case on me (as presented to the Town) was based on wagon analysis. Not the most concrete thing in the world and I'd love to see something else to back it up. You kind of just tried to pull Arguement from Repetition and that's scummy and antitown and

if you're town you can do better,

so do better going forward.

Says the guy who:

1) votes himself to start this day
2) decides to start playing the game after nothing D2.

Do you know what is ironic. Day 1 you preached and preached that some people have jobs, spouses, kids, etc...and can't devote as much time to this game. THAT IS ME.

I hate falling behind. I still haven't fully caught up. There is prob 20-30 pages D1 that I still haven't read. Your reads must have been hidden in there.

But I stuck with it. I did huge catchups along the way. Up to post 1184, I have +'s and -'s with post number and name. Your name shows up a lot on the negatives. After that point my reads were slowly solidified and I continued my catch-up. When I have time, I'll share some of those posts and reasons. And you can be sure they aren't just "wagon analysis".

You're scum. Your actions D2 (lack of play) followed by start of D3 (when you knew you were going to be a big lynch target) just solidified it for me.

vote whiskers

Will concede to only Nauci or beeboy at this point.

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"Up to post 1184, I have +'s and -'s with post number and name."

On a piece of paper...wasn't very concise above.

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@UC villager
It's also completely fucking illegible, please write it out normally so anybody can read/quote it.
Why is there so much spam in this game already?

Axle's first post is the most cancerous shit i have ever seen in my mafia career

wooo, thank you.
Also @UCV, your "fakeclaim in RVS" is going to be used to incriminate you as town or scum later on in the game. It's very very real to breadcrumb during RVS. And if it _is_ fake, you've just introduced a whole extra angle that scum could attack you from, disctracting from

real

scumhunting when we'll need it most. RVS is RVS, but IGMEOU.

Says the guy who:

1) votes himself to start this day
2) decides to start playing the game after nothing D2.

Your actions D2 (lack of play)

whuh?

speaking of UC V and reads,

You can follow this link to see the list of reads I posted Day 1.^

followed by start of D3 (when you knew you were going to be a big lynch target) just solidified it for me.

Oh, I know I'm the lynch today. I figure there's no point in holding out here, so I'm playing my hand. When I flip green you're going to have to like, start shooting straight.

@IaI: what do you think of Mathblade? On a crtl+F I see you haven't said anything about the slot (Alisae nor Math).

I had Alisaea in my null group for awhile (along with Axle/CABD/HST/Dunker) and all but HST trended towards town as I kept reading. HST I trended toward scum along with you, nauci, UC, beeboy, and flubber. As mentioned earlier I didn't think you and flubber could be teammates. Also had doubts about you and beeboy being teammates at some point.

Everyone else was a town read, either by claim (masons) or based on play (Gerry, joey, nero, quick)

[I Am Innocent]

not sure why 109 is in there, other than I started looking at my notes and that was the first whiskers post I didn't like... :-/

[I Am Innocent]

hi nauci, how is that lurking working out for you?

Don’t forget beeboy and Shiro (add her to my now list of 4 I’m willing to lynch today).

The fact none of these 3 have voted is crap to this point.

Whiskers whole “town needs to lynch me before lylo so I’m self voting” to quick jump off to another wagon at 1st opportunity was easily predicted.

Which means both math and lucky might both be town. Sorry to be the one to inform all the haterz.

So more whiskers votes please.

[I Am Innocent]

If Flubber flips town I'll vote Whiskers tomorrow

Saw someone list reasons why HST was the NK choice but they forgot this one

[I Am Innocent]

-flub hasn't really post but everyone's reactions about him make me feel very meh about popping over
-still very happy to lunch lucky, that post about the Nero Viomi argument was scummy as hell
-shiro flip would provide us like zero info but I am Scum reading her
-IAI, I'm a woman
-I'm not scum but I wouldn't mind the sweet release of death to free me from this game
-When I flip town does that clear Joey/Viomi/etc.? Still possible whiskers was town reading me for credit, but I'm not seeing the crumb call-out as scum motivated
-scum reading IAI still
-leaning scum on Nero, null on Gerry
-I'll have to reread whiskers and flub because I'm not sure if I'm down with voting whiskers for a flub town flip
-why are people so determined to counter wagon flub? The dude barely posts but the way he's divided us would at least be an informative flip

Which was such a contrast from nauci - see second to last comment

[I Am Innocent]

Add flub to my scum reads

Vote: Flubbernugget

fine.

This was the whiskers vote. every vote on him but Rhah was done by a scummy person or in a scummy way.

This vote from Whiskers was the post that sleeves me out the most but I'm not going to vote with my #1 scum read. Hmmmmm.

How convenient

[I Am Innocent]

I've leaned scum on Gerry and leaned town on him and I don't really know either way because it seems like this shit posting is just his style.

But I'm okay with lynching it because I thought Axles case was pretty good.

I think Nero is town for how hard he's working to build cases and push people when so many of us have gone apathetic af

I'm not sure if I am ready to give iai the same check though

Oh right this is what I kept forgetting

VOTE: gerryoat

Thanks for the scum claim.

Note how he lurks during the height of the whisker wagon, one who he has “leaned scum” and “leaned town” on only to pop in when the Gerry wagon got going. Gerry who he has also leaned scum and leaned town on.

Whiskers and nauci are so obv scummates

Gerry is obv town

Math and unlucky are both possibly town too.

Town please start voting better

[I Am Innocent]

Unlucky = lucky2u...knew that didn’t sound right when I typed that

[I Am Innocent]

I don't think Nero and I could be scum together.

Check your role PM. It's sure to include your teammates' names on it.

[I Am Innocent]

Do you guys have an issue where whenever you open this game thread you reflexively throw up and close it?
Cause thats me right now.

Anyway I'll catch up tomorrow when I run out of work to do.

Scum.

[I Am Innocent]

hi nauci, how is that lurking working out for you?

Don’t forget beeboy and Shiro (add her to my now list of 4 I’m willing to lynch today).

The fact none of these 3 have voted is crap to this point.

Whiskers whole “town needs to lynch me before lylo so I’m self voting” to quick jump off to another wagon at 1st opportunity was easily predicted.

Which means both math and lucky might both be town. Sorry to be the one to inform all the haterz.

So more whiskers votes please.

Wtf do you want from me dude.

Self vote or bus beeboy/Nauci.

[I Am Innocent]

People who voted Dunk (vig'ed VT) before he was vig'ed: Cabd (shot VT), Gerryoat, Rhah, Whiskers, Joey_, TIAM

Quick (lynched VT) wagon: Whiskers, UC Voyager, Nauci, Flubbernugget (lynched VT), AxleGreaser, Gerryoat, Nero Cain, Beeboy, Joey_

Flubbernugget (lynched VT): HolySpiritTurtle (shot VT), Whiskers, Viomi, Rhah, MathBlade, TIAM, Gerryoat, Flubbernugget (self hammer to avoid NL)

FWIW

Whiskers is on all three of these yet you continue to refuse voting there? Why?

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.17

MathBlade (4) - Lucky2u, Smocaine, Viomi, Transcend

Viomi (3) - Whiskers, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Rhah
Nauci (2) - Flairs, Nero Cain
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

VOTE: Nauci

I didn't realize we were so close to deadline. I'm still back about 15 pages, but for sake of keeping this going, I'm going to change my vote to consolidate to another of my Top 3:

unvote whiskers
vote nauci

Will catch up now, but doubt much is going to change from me suspecting whiskers/nauci/beeboy

[I Am Innocent]

there's people i can only read by engaging with them on a personal level

THAT SHOULD BE LITERALLY EVERYBODY.

THIS ISN'T EPICMAFIA
THERE ISN'T A DISGUISER ROLE

YOU SHOULDN'T BE READING PEOPLE BASED ON META.

You should be reading them by engaging with them on a personal level, then considering whether their behaviour is suspicious and indicative of their alignment. Not "hey gee is this Mathblade? Hmm, yep, yep, looks like it's really Mathblade."
ya fuckin slur.

This is a crap post.

[I Am Innocent]

I think the instinct is for guys to be easier on girls, not that they have different tells. A lot of people believe that girls are more intuitive and empathetic, and thus maybe better at reading people, so maybe they might have more value. Also the male/female online ratio probably magnifies this. But logically I think a lot of this is a fallacy more than helpful in winning games.

If I were to throw my hat in, I'd say it's more about aggression. For example,

Wait Transcend that wasn't sarcasm? I thought you were just making fun of me for correcting you.

Are you saying that men usually are more gung ho and women less confident?

There's actually a lot of studies about how women use less gung ho language: instead of statements women are more likely to say "I think" or "I feel" or "in my opinion" type stuff. Not that I'm using this as a case for my innocence or anything.

this more feminine phrasing could be considered scummy, a player not willing to commit to their opinion.

Trust me the internet trend is *not* to be nicer to women.

well, "nicer" isn't exactly right...

I was talking about mafiascum, not the internet in general. I would like to think that mafiascum is better behaved than the internet at large.

o ___o

If it were "better behaved" then it probably wouldn't be "nicer" to one gender over another.

That's kind of wholly sexist.

More crappy posting.

[I Am Innocent]

One of Transcend/Flairs is mafia maybe.

Flairs is beeboy right? Not sure what to make of this cross voting thing by him and Nauci at this point.

[I Am Innocent]

What we could do is test the theory and flip Whiskers. That sounds really good. Remember Alisae locked horns with Whiskers. Could sort both of them. Either that or lynch outside of Math Whiskers and inside of Transcend Flairs Nauci.

Both are good ideas.

[I Am Innocent]

Ok rhah let's play ball

I'm not overly confident that math is scum. That's my lean right now.

We can spare them today but also spare smocaine because the build up of that lynch doesn't sit well with me and axle and nero are town imo.

I'm good with lynching Nauci or even whiskers

Pedit yee

Town^

[I Am Innocent]

Town block, imo: Rhah, TIAM, Axle, Nero, Whiskers (yeah I know this one's gonna be hella controversial).

So Whiskers use to be in your top 5 scummiest players, when and why did that change?

[I Am Innocent]

If you're town, you should make a renewed effort to hang math. Why do you trust Rhah's read on the slot?

I don't feel like Rhah has post anything with nearly so much certainty other than math is town and TIAM is mason with him.

I have a theory for why but would rather not talk about it.

As town why would you even mention that theory?

Please claim already.

[I Am Innocent]

Well, that sucked. Nauci was town AND I lost my mason partner? I need to reevalute things.

Who was rhah pushing. Oh yeah the guy who self voted but no longer has any desire to be lynched.

vote whiskers

JKer should be on TIAM tonight.

On a cruise the next 8+ days so availability will be limited.

[I Am Innocent]

I vote for massclaim.

jail masonsjailmasonsjailmasons

This is doubly true for jailing the

louder

better

mason.

VOTE: mathblade. When this reds Ima fos trans.

ok and why?

Because you suck at finding scum and strongarmed a not mathblade lynch.

To be fair, Rhah strongarmed a not-mathblade lynch.

[preedit] oops, this didn't go through, and also,

well i would've happily lynched math

but rhah kept white knighting them

Noted how you don’t say who he was pushing :-/

[I Am Innocent]

Looks like Whiskers is the only one on all three wagons ftr.

Yet he is still the hardest person to lynch this game.

[I Am Innocent]

I’m the guy who said quick was town and flubber prob town too

[I Am Innocent]

why would you openly invite someone to lynch you when we haven't accomplished jack shit and your role pm is green

Because whiskers is like obvious lynchbait. ROTFLMBO how can you like not see this...like it's like obvious.

If this was true he’d have been lynched by now.

[I Am Innocent]

My reads have sucked this game. Nauci town, beeboy town. Wavering on my whiskers scum read.

Looked at the vote counts, think myself and axel look the worst at this point.

Still cruising until Sunday with limited access.

Likely will sheep transcend at some point, but want to get my own voice out there.

vote axel

This is a completely different axel then the ***** I played with in the first flower game. VCA shows no interaction between him or MathBlade either.

[I Am Innocent]

Whiskers' posting was really bad yesterday

it was

What's the case on IAI?

gut mostly and thinking that a dying scum Lucky throws down a vote on his buddy. In previous days I had expressed some suspicion on his slot and he has not once said anything about it. Scum avoiding me?

I have noticed you, and been wary of you. But you know as town that’s how we always feel about each other. Pretty sure one of you and axel is scum so willing to flip him first.

[I Am Innocent]

I’ll check again before we leave this island any questions for me let me know.

[I Am Innocent]

My reads have sucked this game. Nauci town, beeboy town. Wavering on my whiskers scum read.

Looked at the vote counts, think myself and axel look the worst at this point.
.

Why do you mention Nauci who has flipped green as a wrong read, and the beeboy slot, which has not flipped as a wrong read?

If you and axel look worst based on vote counts, do you think there is a reason not to lynch you?

Never mind thought smocaine was beeboy, was gerryoats. Was right on that read.

So I could still be right about whiskers and beeboy/flairs.

My preference is not to be lynched but based on my town read of alisea I’d expect more attention my way. But it has yet to come except from you and Nero a little.

Just another reason why I need to re-evaluate my reads, guessing they are comfortable letting me continue to push whiskers??

[I Am Innocent]

At axel, your other play style was very confrontational and not likely a successful way to remain unlynched as scum, so yeah I do see it as AI.

I see your other questions but 100 MB of data goes really quick internationally. Basically did not see you or math ever vote each other, your slot and mine were 2 of the few I saw that on.

[I Am Innocent]

Ill be back in the states Sunday. On waters the next two days so no access then. Transcend you have my vote. If you need a fifth on Sunday you got it. Rather vote non power role claims tho with 1 mason still alive. I’m down with flairs too.

[I Am Innocent]

I still need to circle back to the wagons. Scum is prob in {Nero/Axel, Whiskers, Flair} tho.

[I Am Innocent]

Who pushed the wagon on the JKer by the way? Saw Axel at the front of the final wagon, any others? (Yes this is me being in catchup mode at work...hoping for a slower day tomorrow after I finish reading my last 80 unread emails from last week).

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

says the guy that's been sheeping me this whole game. I'll have to check to make sure but until your recent pushback on me you were pushing nothing but a town Nauci and an unflipped Whiskers.

Nero why did you go straight to voting Lucky?

I think he's scum shouting bullshit. He's who I wanted to lynch yesterday and I think if I had been more proactive with my vote maybe we'd have a forced a not ass lynch on ass. I don't think we are in danger of lynching so I don't think my singular vote is doing anything and I'm here and active so if I really did need to move I could but yeah...

Nope check my reads again.

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, your reads have sucked all game. Your not this bad as town. Also your early day, could only be 3 scum is crap at best. Sorry bud I'm starting to srsly wonder if you drew red this game.

I

Do not

Like this post

I

Do not

Care

[I Am Innocent]

Checking in.

VOTE: mathblade

How about this wagon?

votecount 3.3

Whiskers (4) - Whiskers, I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah

Lucky2u (3) - gerryoat, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
gerryoat (2) - Nero Cain, AxleGreaser
MathBlade (1) - Lucky2u

Not voting (3) - Shiro, beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.4

Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah
Lucky2u (3) - gerryoat, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Whiskers, Nero Cain

gerryoat (1) - AxleGreaser

Not voting (3) - Shiro, beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

[I Am Innocent]

So from 3752 to 3882, mathblade goes from zero votes to three votes.

All three players on the wagon are still alive. Two of them are counterwagons.

I know all three are town on the Whiskers wagon. Mathblade was on Lucky, along with two other town.

Two living players (replacements now) are not voting). Axle is voting confirmed town at this point.

Unless you think Lucky, Whiskers, and Math were all scum together, and they decided to bus/distance the goon, I just don't see Lucky as scum.

[I Am Innocent]

though I guess you

ARE

right, that he was much more active in world record than here.

vote:Gerry

And the first person off is Nero.

Nero why did you switch off at this point?

[I Am Innocent]

Yer i isodived lucky

He might be town

Talk to me about flairs

beeboy was pretty scummy that's all I remember.

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.7

MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Whiskers, Smocaine
Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah

Nauci (2) - Transcend, TwoInAMillion

Not voting (2) - beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.9

Nauci (6) - Transcend, TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Smocaine, Flairs, Whiskers

Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Viomi
MathBlade (1) - Lucky2u

Not voting (1) - Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

Another interesting development.

[I Am Innocent]

So first vote count has one, maybe two scum (Whiskers?) tied for the lead with 3 votes.

Then in less than 60 posts, Nauci is at L-1 with 4 add'l votes. Two of those add'l votes are now flipped town, so looks very bad for flairs and whiskers.

Once again, if Lucky was bussing/distancing with Math, why not get off by this point?

Or maybe it was Whiskers who was the one "bussing/distancing"

[I Am Innocent]

UNVOTE:

forgot self hammering was a thing bc this slot is pretty caught scum and could hammer himself before i have time to do my readings

VOTE: mathblade

hello old "friend"

i have a problem with your vote rn

VOTE: Mathblade sick him dog

And on the same page, the first two right after the vote count, two more votes back Math's way.

Looks real good for Transcend.

[I Am Innocent]

Agree with not flipping Flaris. Ok with not flipping the masons.

I

think

I'll be ok with lynching any of the following 5.

MathBlade
Viomi
Smocaine
Whiskers
Nauci

Based on Nero's actions all game, and that this includes Math in it, doubt him and Whiskers are teammates. Would scum put a list together that included 2 of the 5 being scummates?

So I'm leaning on Axle, Flair, one of Nero/Whiskers

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.11

Nauci (3) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs, Whiskers
Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Transcend, Smocaine

Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Rhah
Transcend (1) - Viomi

Not voting (1) - Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

Math (scum) has Lucky and Transcend on it.

Smocaine and Nauci (town) have Flairs/Whiskers/Axle/Nero on it.

Whiskers (?) has me.

Would all scum be on the same wagon here (Axle/Nero/Math)?

Axle/Flair/Whiskers?

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.12

Nauci (3) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs, Whiskers
Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Transcend, Smocaine

Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Rhah
Transcend (1) - Viomi
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.14

Viomi (5) - Nero Cain, Transcend, Rhah, Whiskers, MathBlade

MathBlade (2) - Lucky2u, Smocaine
Nauci (2) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (1) - Viomi

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.15

Viomi (4) - Nero Cain, Rhah, Whiskers, MathBlade
MathBlade (4) - Lucky2u, Smocaine, Viomi, Transcend

Nauci (2) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

Another 150 post interesting development

[I Am Innocent]

Nero, Transcend, Whiskers, and scum Math are now on Town Viomi.

Why does scum Lucky stay on mathblade until it can become a wagon again (4400).

And if the scum team is Axel/Whiskers/Flair, why is the game not over with Nero voting Lucky?

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.16

MathBlade (4) - Lucky2u, Smocaine, Viomi, Transcend

Viomi (3) - Whiskers, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Rhah, Nero Cain
Nauci (1) - Flairs
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.17

MathBlade (4) - Lucky2u, Smocaine, Viomi, Transcend

Viomi (3) - Whiskers, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Rhah
Nauci (2) - Flairs, Nero Cain
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.19 (final)

Nauci (7) - Flairs, Nero Cain, Transcend, I Am Innocent, Lucky2u, TwoInAMillion, Whiskers

MathBlade (2) - Smocaine, Viomi
Viomi (1) - MathBlade
Whiskers (1) - Rhah
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

And to the end of the day. Town points for Nero getting off town Viomi to move to unknown whiskers and push math into the sole lead at 4 wagons in the first vote analysis above.

Moves to Nauci thereafter, in which Transcend (prob town) myself (town) lucky (prob town) TIAM join, and hammered by Whiskers.

Need to look at how and why everyone moved to Nauci. I know Nero was pushing, him, but want to read on the other living players.

[I Am Innocent]

Has everybody claimed?

I'm VT by the way.

[I Am Innocent]

Can everybody else claim/reclaim in their next post.

Could we really have only 3 scum?

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: Assemblerotws

@Assemblerotws

So who did you JK last night?

You ask a question, yet you vote before getting an answer? Can you explain why?

[I Am Innocent]

MB has voted for:
Smocaine
Viomi
Gerry
Lucky
Flubber

MB Hasn't Voted For:
Transcend
IAmInnocent
NeroCain
AxleGreaser
Flairs
Assemblerotws
Whiskers
TiaM

VOTE: Assemblerotws

Only one living player he voted for, Lucky.

Nero can you explain why you scumread Lucky?

[I Am Innocent]

Alisea voted

Whiskers (342)
Nauci (382)
Cabd (599)
Quick (664)
Whiskers (965)
Whiskers (1461)

Only living player is Whiskers and quite a bit....hmmm

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 1.20

Quick (3) - AxleGreaser, Alisae, beeboy

Whiskers (2) - Flubbernugget, Rhah
Dunkerdoodles (2) - HolySpiritTurtle, Cabd
TwoInAMillion (2) - Whiskers, Quick
I Am Innocent (1) - TwoInAMillion
UC Voyager (1) - gerryoat
Nauci (1) - Nero Cain
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles

Not voting (5) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

votecount 1.21

Whiskers (5) - Flubbernugget, Rhah, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy

Dunkerdoodles (4) - HolySpiritTurtle, Cabd, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion
TwoInAMillion (2) - Whiskers, Quick
Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles

Not voting (5) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

votecount 1.23

Whiskers (4) - Flubbernugget, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy
Dunkerdoodles (4) - HolySpiritTurtle, Cabd, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion

TwoInAMillion (1) - Quick
Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles
Nero Cain (1) - Rhah

Not voting (6) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci, Whiskers

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

votecount 1.26

Dunkerdoodles (5) - Cabd, gerryoat, TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Whiskers
Whiskers (5) - Flubbernugget, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy, Quick

Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles
Rhah (1) - HolySpiritTurtle

Not voting (5) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

votecount 1.28

Whiskers (5) - Flubbernugget, Nero Cain, Alisae, beeboy, Quick

Dunkerdoodles (4) - Cabd, gerryoat, Rhah, Whiskers
Quick (1) - AxleGreaser
HolySpiritTurtle (1) - Dunkerdoodles

Not voting (7) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Joey_, UC Voyager, Nauci, TwoInAMillion, HolySpiritTurtle

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Shiro is V/LA until October 17.

All right up til Cabd shot dunker...pretty gutsy to keep a partner (whiskers) as the leading vote getter when the claimed vig was talking about shooting somebody.

[I Am Innocent]

wait am i stupid or is the dl in this game significantly shorter

8 days

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 1-2.1

Whiskers (1) - Alisae

Not voting (16) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Nero Cain, Rhah, AxleGreaser, HolySpiritTurtle, Flubbernugget, beeboy, Cabd, UC Voyager, Joey_, gerryoat, Whiskers, Quick, Nauci, TwoInAMillion

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

votecount 1-2.3

Whiskers (4) - Alisae, beeboy, Flubbernugget, Quick

Alisae (2) - gerryoat, Whiskers
Joey_ (1) - Nero Cain

Not voting (10) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Rhah, AxleGreaser, HolySpiritTurtle, Cabd, UC Voyager, Joey_, Nauci, TwoInAMillion

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

votecount 1-2.9

Flubbernugget (4) - Nero Cain, beeboy, Joey_, HolySpiritTurtle

Whiskers (3) - Alisae, Flubbernugget, Quick
UC Voyager (3) - Rhah, Nauci, gerryoat
Alisae (1) - Whiskers

Not voting (6) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, AxleGreaser, Cabd, UC Voyager, TwoInAMillion

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Nauci is V/LA until October 23.

votecount 1-2.10

Whiskers (4) - Alisae, Flubbernugget, Quick, AxleGreaser

Flubbernugget (3) - Nero Cain, beeboy, HolySpiritTurtle
UC Voyager (3) - Rhah, Nauci, gerryoat
Alisae (1) - Whiskers
Quick (1) - Joey_

Not voting (4) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, Cabd, UC Voyager, TwoInAMillion

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Nauci is V/LA until October 23.

votecount 1-2.15

Whiskers (4) - Alisae, Flubbernugget, Quick, AxleGreaser
Quick (4) - Whiskers, Cabd, beeboy, Joey_

Flubbernugget (3) - Nero Cain, HolySpiritTurtle, gerryoat
UC Voyager (1) - Rhah
beeboy (1) - TwoInAMillion
Nero Cain (1) - Nauci

Not voting (3) - Shiro, I Am Innocent, UC Voyager

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Nauci is V/LA until October 23.

MathBlade replaces Alisae!

Alisea then starts the wagon on whiskers, and leaves it there until replacing out.

[I Am Innocent]

My pred literally voted 0 times LMAO

But you seem to be reading me right

If you are scum and beat me, I have no probably congratulating you on one of the best bussing jobs ever.

I think I'm at, from town to scummiest:

IAI
Transcend
Lucky
Whiskers
Axle/Flairs/Nero

Is possible Town Whiskers voted another Town (Lucky) in LyLo but unvoted before Flairs/Axle logged/jumped on???

[I Am Innocent]

See the thing about alisae is he is achronic busser.

In the white flag open setup, he bused the shit out of one of his buddies in a setup where it is very foolish to bus.

The scary thing is, if this is LyLo, we don't just have to catch one scum, nor two in a row without fail...but three lol.

I want to know who Nero/Whiskers/Axel/Flair's replacement find scummy.

@lovely mod...any chance at a slight extension for the new replacement?

[I Am Innocent]

So long story short I'll eat my hat if he didn't bus at some point and the only person left is whiskers

I'm willing to continue considering whiskers, but not today. I think I want to make the best vote out of Nero/Axel/Flair.

[I Am Innocent]

I'm still pretty sure nc is town tho and idk if a world exists where nero and lucky both have green pms, due to no qh.

except for 3 scum scenario, right?

[I Am Innocent]

unless there's only 3mafia, which, is plausible

and which we would have another mislynch, so if we are wrong about them both being town we still have another day to live.

[I Am Innocent]

Axle i hated playing with you last game. You frustrated me as town, power role town that got me undue attention and an early claim/exit as I recall. But there is value in that play style. I’ve seen twoface act the same way and when a player like that tunnels on scum it is terrible for the scum team. So while I hated it last game I still see value in it.

So I was wary from the beginning. Factor in this change in play style I was wary from the beginning + any lack of push on maths slot + leading the efforts against town JKer, yes I think you are at/near the top of the list of players who will flip red.

Unless I missed it, I didn’t see you or Nero in your recent posts 1) claim/reclaim and 2) tell me who you are currently scumreading (besides Nero on lucky which is obv as his vote is there).

Why no responses on these two items yet?

[I Am Innocent]

Axle your vote history looks like this

Nero (short lived rvs type vote)
Quick
Whiskers
Gerry
Smocaine
Assemble

Interesting so many living players have voted whiskers this game (me, lucky, Nero, axle), once again I don’t think I want to push whiskers today.

[I Am Innocent]

Whiskers has been prodded.

Happy thanksgiving Pie!

[I Am Innocent]

"hnmmmmmm interesting result" isn't vca.

Screw you. Don’t even friggin act like that’s all I did.

Idiot

[I Am Innocent]

I want to know who Nero/Whiskers/Axel/Flair's replacement find scummy.

@whiskers

[I Am Innocent]

Axle what I think you are missing is the fact just because you didn’t get lynched as town in the last flower game despite that play style doesn’t mean as scum, you could properly properly reflect that play style and not get lynched.

That’s the hard part about this game as mafia...faking play and having it come off as townie.

So saying it was a personal choice to change your play as town is not believable to me, aka this play style change is AI, unless you show me a scum game where you properly mirrored your town play from the flower festival.

Make sense?

[I Am Innocent]

Nero why won’t you commit to reads today?

[I Am Innocent]

Nero what happen to ur axel scum read?

[I Am Innocent]

17 players are 1 scum for every 4.6 players. Is a 1 for every 5 really that different?

Why only consider me and Lucky for a lynch?

15/3 = 5 to 1 ratio
14/4 = 3.5 to 1 ratio (same as newbie game)

I’m still perplexed why town Nero is so pushing 3 scum over 4 scum and why town Nero would have taken a chance to early vote when this could be LyLo.

Also not a fan that the person he presumably risked the game on by voting early isn’t even a current suspect.

Earlier he pushed me and nauci when I suspected nauci most of the game. Then later when I voted axel he pushed it as a distancing or bussing vote. Now he doesn’t even suspect axel anymore.

I’m still leaning axel/Nero/one more...whiskers or flair/sauce

[I Am Innocent]

I am not familiar with the 4.6:1 ratio. Is that one example or are you suggesting that is standard? Cause every newbie game is 3.5:1 and that ratio usually lines up for most mafia games I play in***

When and why did your axel scum read go away?

*** I mean there is always extremes. I played in a 12:2 game, but then again the scum had a mafia vig (2 NKs a night) and mafia backup vig.

[I Am Innocent]

Axel I’m not going to read those walls. One or two sentence questions please.

Whiskers not ignoring you either. Need to get back to my notes to see your early posts which I didn’t like. I do remember not liking your back and forth with Joey, and especially hated your newbie defense of nauci when they first entered the thread, esp after ur earlier newbie <> town hypocritical comment. Also felt there were many associative tells between you, beeboy, and nauci, tho I have to see if those still hold water for you and beeboy now that nauci flipped town.

And yes, I think there is merit when so many people scum read a player yet they are impossible to lynch. See the speed of naucis wagon as a counter example

[I Am Innocent]

Sauce is doing all this bullshit trying to force the lynch pool down to two (conveniently, he gets to pick and it excludes him), he's trying to drive town like "hey anybody who doesn't lynch in the same direction I do is scum"

IaI is straight up refusing to engage because "2 meny werdz" after posting a page of straight up quoted votecounts with some kind of VCA in completely separate posts. Axel is like "Hey defend this" and IaI is just "nah." My conf bias also says he's a snake in the grass waiting for the spark to lynch whiskers.

Transcend is literally spamming.

Nope I already explained myself to axel and all that he is doing is rehashing his crap thru thesis style posts while avoiding interacting with any other players. It’s a scum tactic to look busy but buy time to see where everybody lands.

Similar to Nero, I like how you vote lucky early during the day but now isn’t in ur top 3. I don’t see town in a lylo situation voting someone so early In the day without being super super confident they are scum. So where did that super super confident scum read go?

[I Am Innocent]

Nero where did ur scum read of axel go?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

[I Am Innocent]

oh hey 2 and a half days left um and i work the next 2 nights um um

I still trust you more than anyone where are you at right now?

[I Am Innocent]

Of the three I think I’d lean sauce most.

I still want Nero’s response before I vote tho.

[I Am Innocent]

@Nero could you link the 4.6 ratio'd setups you're talking about?

I mean, 3 scum in 17 players seems like a common setup. That's a 4.6 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72542-Was a 17 player with a 13/4 split but that's still 4.25 ratio.

then there's viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71353 which is also a 13/4 split.

So far all I've learned is Frogger is a shit mod.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69936 is a 17 player with a 3/2/12 split.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=68819 is 16 players with a 3/13 split and a 4.3 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=69654 this one is a 4 in a 17 though. So I guess this is a point for the 4/14 argument. It's a 4.25 ratio.

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=67016 is 4/14 split.

I'm getting tired so maybe all the 14/3 games are older but all those other games have more town power. A 4/14 with a low town power still seems like it is iffy to me.

13/4 is 3.25 ratio of town to scum, not 4.25

Don't care about multiball, so that is crap.

13/3 split is 4.3, agreed.

Another 13/4, 3.25 again, not 4.25.

14/4 split would be 3.5.

So basically ur range goes from 3.25 to 4.3, yet you think this game is 5.0 (way above the upper range) over 3.5? Nope don't buy it. Ur smarter than this.

[I Am Innocent]

Nero where did ur scum read of axel go?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

What part of "I'm flip flopping more than Mitt Romey in '12" do you not get? Do you really think that asking someone that's flip-flopping on their reads on

EVERYONE

is actually a constructive question? I don't and it's not.

Nope it is. Answer the question please, or get my vote.

[I Am Innocent]

I think its Lucky/IaI and Axle.

and so begins the great IaI/Axe distancing.

I want to know where this scum read went. Hated 4996 when I first saw it, realizing for the first time you might be scummates with Axle. (He flips scum, you can still have ur fake scum read on me)

[I Am Innocent]

but i'll probably be a proponent of a lucky lynch at this point.

Just look at the parked vote on Math again that I pointed out in my VCA...incredible job of bussing or town? I still lean towards the latter.

[I Am Innocent]

Iai please not nero

I think a world exists where both of you can be town.

I'm not going to rush and doing anything. But if Lucky is town, that puts at least one of Nero/Sauce as scum (or only 3 scum total).

[I Am Innocent]

I've been pushing there being 4 scum for awhile now. I'm not believing that you just now knew about this unless you really aren't reading which you shouldn't do as town but would make sense if you are scum. My rationale for thinking this was a 4 scum setup is that 3 in a 17 is common so an 18 might be 4 and a 14/4 is a nice round setup.

But in hindsight, eh. A 15/3 setup doesn't seem impossible at all

.

This is also talking away from the criticism that Ass shouldn't have voted Math after blocking. Like that's a really crummy argument and you should have enough experience to understand that by now.

See underlined

[I Am Innocent]

Alright

Any complaints with sauce?

Insomnia blows.

Nope.

[I Am Innocent]

For a guy thats so anal about getting his questions answered you sure don't mind avoiding mine...

I still trust you more than anyone where are you at right now?

Why do you trust him so much when he's town reading both of your biggest scumreads?

[/quote]

VCA

[I Am Innocent]

regardless, setup spec needs to fucking end as DL is approaching and it might be lylo.

What do you think about IaI continuing to go on about why I might be scum because I started to agree with the possibility of a 15/3 setup after I quick voted lucky to start the day, same person I know longer scum read?

Post fixed

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 3.7

MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Whiskers, Smocaine
Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Viomi, Rhah

Nauci (2) - Transcend, TwoInAMillion

Not voting (2) - beeboy, Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.9

Nauci (6) - Transcend, TwoInAMillion, Rhah, Smocaine, Flairs, Whiskers

Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Viomi
MathBlade (1) - Lucky2u

Not voting (1) - Nauci

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

Another interesting development.

UNVOTE:

forgot self hammering was a thing bc this slot is pretty caught scum and could hammer himself before i have time to do my readings

VOTE: mathblade

hello old "friend"

i have a problem with your vote rn

VOTE: Mathblade sick him dog

And on the same page, the first two right after the vote count, two more votes back Math's way.

Looks real good for Transcend.

votecount 3.12

Nauci (3) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs, Whiskers
Smocaine (3) - AxleGreaser, Nero Cain, MathBlade
MathBlade (3) - Lucky2u, Transcend, Smocaine

Whiskers (2) - I Am Innocent, Rhah
Transcend (1) - Viomi
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.14

Viomi (5) - Nero Cain, Transcend, Rhah, Whiskers, MathBlade

MathBlade (2) - Lucky2u, Smocaine
Nauci (2) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (1) - Viomi

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.15

Viomi (4) - Nero Cain, Rhah, Whiskers, MathBlade
MathBlade (4) - Lucky2u, Smocaine, Viomi, Transcend

Nauci (2) - TwoInAMillion, Flairs
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

Another 150 post interesting development

4065, as well as the change in vote from Viomi to Math in 4400 both look real good for Transcend.

And what is the one constant in all above, Lucky is on Math. Best bussing ever or town?

[I Am Innocent]

No one has really vocalized a reason not to lynch Sauce, in a LyLo situation, does that worry or encourage you transcend?

There's a difference between vocalizing a reason to lynch Sauce and actually pushing the lynch thru with votes.

For instance, if I'm right and this is LyLo, I doubt scum are hard defending their teammates. I'm sure each scum prob has "some" suspicion on at least one of his teammates.

[I Am Innocent]

...Yet there has not been one vote Sauce's way. Three have been sent your way by contrast...

[I Am Innocent]

I don't feel like any of you, Whiskers, Lucky, and maybe sauce are in any way shape or form pro-town. You expecting my Lucky read to remain static is so much ass.

Yet Axle is not on the list, someone as recently as "yesterday" you suspected. Amazing.

[I Am Innocent]

I DON'T EXPECT YOUR READS TO STAY STATIC, BUT WHAT FRIGGIN' CHANGED IS ALL I WANT TO KNOW?!?!

[I Am Innocent]

The macho addition makes it feel more fake....
But if it is real that may be what Pie was going for?
I'd rather just right the miller claim off as nothing and just go from Ali's play in which case I am not disgusted by my current vote.

I also just tend to leave people be early cause I don't like to make my intents overly clear until everyone has posted.
But I guess for the sake of transparency slots I currently don't like are 2inMil, Nauci, Dunker and to a lesser extent Ali.

I am liking Rhah, Quick and Dunker for scum.
To a lesser extent I am not liking you, 2inMil, Nauci, Whiskers

I am null on everyone else outside my 4 town reads and like a good chunk of players haven't even posted enough content for me to actually get a read on them.

I just feel like I my scum reads are way to wide when usually I have the opposite issue of having way to many town reads which makes me feel like I am doing something wrong.

Was looking thru beeboy's iso, and here were three claims I did not like.

1) ok writing off the miller claim and would rather focus on alisea's play
2) 3 town "scumreads" followed by a lesser extent, a scum player. Typical scum list setup.
3) 7 scum reads are made up of 5 town, 1 scum (in the lesser extent group) and 1 unknown (in the lesser extent group, whiskers). Pretty much what I would have expected, bunch of town players to be able to lynch from, with a scum read or two mixed in the lesser group to throw off the scent of whose town/scum.

[I Am Innocent]

Consider my vote on Sauce. I'm playing for the end game though, so I want to see if Whiskers/Axel/Sauce pile on me or not.

[I Am Innocent]

Since you are pretending like you didn't see it

queue the "effort isn't AI!" chorus but Axe seems to be doing lots of effort lately. Admittedly, I'm just kinda skimming his posts but yeah.

I saw this, but it was crap. First of all, what effort...long posts? Rehashing of same arguments??? Has he done any scumhunting in the process nope.

Reminds me of the time (close ur eyes mod) when Pie and I were partners in the Waltz dance game, and two of the three scum flipped. I found every interaction between the remaining living players and two scum. Everybody was like "look at the effort". Know what happened, paranoia struck the other teams and I won as the last scum.

So yeah, strong scum read to not even possible scum based on that reasoning is just crap. Sorry you're caught buddy.

[I Am Innocent]

Breaking it down even further:

Admits that many don't think effort is AI, but yet he does?
Skimming the posts so not even really sure what the effort truly is/isn't.

[I Am Innocent]

I don't feel like any of you, Whiskers, Lucky, and maybe sauce are in any way shape or form pro-town. You expecting my Lucky read to remain static is so much ass.

also poe, i think there are scummier slots than him

vote:IAI

Transcend, I don't think you really have to worry about this being town. List sauce as not town. Admits even earlier how much his reads are flip flopping.

Then says, heck no, I'm not voting sauce cause POE.

[I Am Innocent]

POE for a guy who just compared himself to mitt Romney...

[I Am Innocent]

And yeah scum win if it is lylo and no lynch is achieved so we need to get a move on

Agreed. Whiskers, Axel, and Sauce need to make an appearance.

[I Am Innocent]

So the scum team ain’t sauce/whiskers/Nero, good to know.

Pedit and axle is here too

[I Am Innocent]

So unless there are only scum voting sauce, or unless there isn’t 4 scum total, sauce is scum.

vote sauce

[I Am Innocent]

My apologies to the mod. I fell behind. Struggled to catch up. There are still some parts of this game that I have not read...

Yeah totally missed Transcend being scum at the end, so it was pretty much auto loss as there was nothing that was going to change my read there. This despite me not liking UCV earlier in the game either

Whiskers should have been lynched so many times earlier in the game. Was banking on mucho town cred when that happened...sigh, it never did. Lol at Transcend basically telling me Alisea likes to bus as scum, throwing his partner under like that.

Axel, you were pretty obv scum there at the end. Shame on my boy Nero for not seeing it.

Apparently I'm in the minority with it but I was totally fooled by Alisea.

Good game scum, sorry Nauci and beeboy/replacements for being so wrong on your slots.

And once again to pie, thanks for the invite, and when you finally do sign up for another game, whether under a regular account or an alt, let me know and I'm in (and won't give away ur alt).

[I Am Innocent]

votecount 1-2.27 (final)

Quick (9) - Whiskers, UC Voyager, Nauci, Flubbernugget, AxleGreaser, gerryoat, Nero Cain, beeboy, Joey_

Flubbernugget (5) - HolySpiritTurtle, MathBlade, Rhah, Quick, Cabd
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent
UC Voyager (1) - TwoInAMillion

Not voting (1) - Shiro

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is October 23, 15:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-10-23 15:00:00).

Nauci is V/LA until October 23. Shiro is V/LA until October 25.

votecount 2.16 (final)

Flubbernugget (8) - HolySpiritTurtle, Whiskers, Viomi, Rhah, MathBlade, TwoInAMillion, gerryoat, Flubbernugget

Whiskers (3) - I Am Innocent, Nero Cain, Lucky2u
Lucky2u (1) - Nauci
gerryoat (1) - AxleGreaser

Not voting (2) - Shiro, beeboy

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is November 1, 03:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-01 03:00:00).

MathBlade is V/LA until October 31. beeboy is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 3.19 (final)

Nauci (7) - Flairs, Nero Cain, Transcend, I Am Innocent, Lucky2u, TwoInAMillion, Whiskers

MathBlade (2) - Smocaine, Viomi
Viomi (1) - MathBlade
Whiskers (1) - Rhah
Smocaine (1) - AxleGreaser
Flairs (1) - Nauci

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 9, 21:10 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-09 21:10:00).

Viomi is V/LA indefinitely.

votecount 4.6 (final)

MathBlade (6) - Smocaine, Assemblerotws, Transcend, Nero Cain, Whiskers, Lucky2u

Smocaine (2) - MathBlade, AxleGreaser
Assemblerotws (1) - TwoInAMillion
Whiskers (1) - I Am Innocent

Not voting (1) - Flairs

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is November 17, 22:40 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-17 22:40:00).

Flairs is V/LA until November 12. I Am Innocent is V/LA until November 19.

votecount 5.9 (final)

Assemblerotws (5) - AxleGreaser, Transcend, Lucky2u, TwoInAMillion, Nero Cain

AxleGreaser (1) - I Am Innocent

Not voting (3) - Assemblerotws, Whiskers, Flairs

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is November 20, 21:20 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-20 21:20:00).

I Am Innocent is V/LA until November 19. Transcend is V/LA until November 20.

votecount 6.8 (final)

Sauce (4) - Lucky2u, Transcend, I Am Innocent, AxleGreaser

Not voting (3) - Whiskers, Sauce, Nero Cain

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is November 29, 16:50 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2017-11-29 16:50:00).

Ah, 4 out of the 6 days I finished on scum. Maybe my play wasn't too bad.

Worst part of this game was lynching the town JKer D5. That pretty much sealed the loss at that point.