Product Placement Mafia (Game over!)

[xRECKONERx]

would still vote reck, and would actually much prefer to lynch reck now that I've thought of it again. something about his play around nsg is still unsettling and his day 1 posting felt really scum motivated on multiple angles. but realistically not sure if there's any support for it unless he gets guiltied (Google glasses maybe? please?)

man these specifics sure are compelling

maybe people would listen to you/i wouldnt think youre a joke if you could actually give reasons instead of "something feels bad lol"

scum will end up NKing me so you wont have to worry about it

wow look at this response i gave you to try to engage you and yet you ignored it to whine and complain about ~*~*~*~bEiNg DiScReDiTeD~*~*~*~

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there are a few responses to me saying that you're a joke and not giving reasons:

- give reasons
- get angry at me calling you a joke and give reasons
- push harder on me by actually stating a case
- whine about being persecuted

only one of those is an anti-town response. ill give you a hint.

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hm. okay.

hmm.

that's fair.

[xRECKONERx]

fuck it VOTE: mutantdevle

2/2 baybeeee

[xRECKONERx]

my nsg lynch isn't going anywhere, so fuck it

plus i wanna see if i can get every hammer this game letsgoooo

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1) Lightning rod covers both the rb, redirector and explains the no death. However, that possibility has been labeled too remote although it solves everything.

HOLY FUCK TITUS HOW THE FUCK IS A FUCKING LIGHTNING ROD THE FIRST FUCKING THING YOU JUMP TO

THAT'S LIKE ME GETTING A MESSAGE CONFIRMING SOMEONE IS TOWN AND THEN GOING "AH, MUST BE A DREAMING GOD!"

[xRECKONERx]

oh fuck

yeah, i did

i got a pumpkin spice latte or some shit. it doesn't do anything

so there, lightning rod bullshit refuted

[xRECKONERx]

Compulsive redirectors are a thing

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I guess I should clarify

I received two things

One was a latte. The other was a dick pick.

Both did nothing. The latte, after I drank it, caused UT to send me a new role PM with the words "basic bitch" added to it. It's purely flavor.

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: northsidegal

[xRECKONERx]

>pine blocked her
>no kill
>pine dies

[xRECKONERx]

it's possible it's an elaborate setup by scum to get us to mislynch but FUCK IT i don't care

nsg needs to die

pine is now confirmed he blocked her the night there was a no kill. at the absolute worst we lose a vanilla townie. if scum want to play some stupid mindgames just to get a VT mislynch then so be it.

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by the way, i can finally use this quote now that that game ended:

information lynches are fucking stupid lmao. please never mention that again. your job is to hit scum, not get infirmation from an obvtown mislynch.

and ignoring night actions is also fucking stupid lmao

[xRECKONERx]

based on play i dont actually think nsg is scum

but im not letting this wifom bullshit go deep into the game

[xRECKONERx]

so is thinking that the roleblock is a guilty.

we have confirmed night action results that explain the nightkill

scum would've shot brian last night if they already cleared his bulletproof imo

[xRECKONERx]

it's possible brian saw the night action stuff and went "oh fuck uh no it was me I'm bulletproof" but that's less likely that nsg just being blocked scum imo.

[xRECKONERx]

brian could've claimed 1-shot bp to stop the nsg lynch too but that'd be quite the ballsy play

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well actually is it? nsg flips scum, brian gets to skate by on a bulletproof claim that explains why he isn't dying at night (scum are scared of the bp)

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based on play i dont actually think nsg is scum

but im not letting this wifom bullshit go deep into the game

who do you think is scum

penguin, hyung, brian <--- one of these at least

town reads are gammagooey, bbmolla, you, LLD

everyone else (brian/cheeky/firebringer/titus/vaxkiller/alisae) are shades of null

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Why is archangel in your town list?

You copied a list you made earlier in the game , don't even deny it. I think this list is old and outdated and I don't think you did any reevaluation during the night phase.

You know who has sticky reads it is scum that's who

whoa re you talking to

Why am I in two groups?

because i just filled in names quickly for the "no read" category

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I would also like to see Reck push something that wasn't solely based on Night Actions.

ill pass

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I dont like recks post about them thinking scum would kill brain and that means nsg is scum. It's really fucking me read up on them.

no, nsg needs to be lynched due to pine's night actions

[xRECKONERx]

pending my full claim, sure.

[xRECKONERx]

i dont think she's gonna flip scum but i think my claim absolves me anyway

[xRECKONERx]

ill pass on scumhunting when we have night actions to enable my laziness

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I dont like recks post about them thinking scum would kill brain and that means nsg is scum. It's really fucking me read up on them.

no, nsg needs to be lynched due to pine's night actions

Again, ELI5, how this is confirmed.

it's not confirmed
im arguing that nsg living til lylo with a potential "guilty" on her in terms of a rb stopping the kill is not possible

if she's a mislynch, scum can bank on her being easy mislynch fodder later due to pine's rb claim
if she's a scum lynch, then we win

either way it's a pro-town move

pending my full claim, sure.

Is there any risk in claiming now?

potentially.

[xRECKONERx]

i am, completely objectively speaking, obviously town – i have never once put as much effort into a scum game as this. i literally don't care about being scum. i am a sort by postcount player.

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this whole post

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: Reckoner

Nsg I don’t like how ur effort is more focused on arguing with the people who are pushing u for this roleblocker issue.
Can you not and do other things?

It seems like wasted energy and more I see you do it the weaker my tr on u is.

[xRECKONERx]

I've also been kinda sorta giving Reck a pass for it, but I also absolutely LOATHE the fact I had to point out that Reck claimed to receive stuff Night 1 when he was addressing the lightning rod accusations. I definitely feel like he should have been the first to shoot that theory down.

i got something last night too oOoOOOoo spooky

why is me forgetting i got something even remotely alignment indicative

you know it isn't, you're smarter than that

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I'm v. happy with dueling wagons of north and penguin atm for what it's worth

as people may remember I had a town read on NSG day 1 but I'm very unimpressed with her play yesterday and today so far. Which is a bit funny b/c I think her reads are pretty close to mine I just have no idea why she personally scum/townreads any of them except for PP.

MOLLIE!
I WANNA KILL THIS SO FUCKING BADLY

nope, gamma's off limits for the time being

[xRECKONERx]

Also, Reck definitely seems like he'd be a Vecna-buddy to me since he was one of the main people pushing the idea that Vecna had to be town for his 'claim' (and he's still trying to push the idea that claim = alignment and it doesn't), and his late jump onto the Vecna wagon does sort of seem like scum jumping on for late towncred.

i thought vecna had to be town because he had a separate PT with the mod to keep track of votecounts and i didnt understand why, if vecna was scum, UT wouldn't just use the scum PT to post votecounts in

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I want to consolidate on penguin.

I think reck might have role related reasons to be conftown.

I think ur totally wrong on reck.
Also think his role related clear is complete bullshit

But if you agree to lynch him tomorrow I’ll lynch Penguin today.

why am i scum firebringer

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i dont think she's gonna flip scum but i think my claim absolves me anyway

Speaking of which...

Who have you conf-towned yourself to? It's been two nights.

ill claim later

why are you rolefishing when im in no danger of a list and tbh you're not even pushing me?

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My role will be conf to some people in this gam

Also I don't know that hyung is Marquis it just seems like w very Marquis alt and Marquis is queen of alts

I'm referring to this. This needs to be cleared up or we should power-lynch Reck.

yes, i said my role would be conf to a couple of people

outside of the role itself, i think my actions will clear me if/when i claim

but im not fucking claiming on d3 under no threat of lynch when scum already got a rb claim out of pine that NOBODY IN THIS FUCKING TOWN IS FOLLOWING

[xRECKONERx]

UT is lazymod, i know this, and was factoring it into my analysis

when UT and I were playing PUBG I was bitching at him about how lazy the votecounter role was and he was like "well dude I'm still keeping votecounts in a PT for the votecounter, duh" and I was like "uhhh is that public info" and he was like "yes i put it in the OP" and I checked and went "no you didn't" and he said "well fuck I meant to one sec" and that's when he posted the public notification about the VC PT

to me that seemed like he "slipped" to me as a mod and tried to cover his ass by making the info public but...i forgot the caveat that if the vc dies we have to select a new one, in which case it makes sense why it's a separate PT

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also i was bitching to UT about how lazy he is this game and how he excused his laziness with a "mechanic" forcing players to do VCs and he said he has a PT where he's actually doing updates so

Official Votecount 7 of 10

Alisae
ArcAngel9 - 6 (Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal, Alisae, xRECKONERx, Vecna)
Brian Skies
CheekyTeeky - 1 (hyung)
Firebringer
Gamma Emerald
Gammagooey
hiplop
hyung
mutantdevle - 1 (Gammagooey)
northsidegal
PenguinPower
Pine
T-Bone - 2 (mutantdevle, Brian Skies)
Vaxkiller
Vecna
xRECKONERx - 2 (Firebringer, CheekyTeeky)

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch
Deadline in (expired on 2018-05-04 18:00:00)

also i was bitching to UT about how lazy he is this game and how he excused his laziness with a "mechanic" forcing players to do VCs and he said he has a PT where he's actually doing updates so

which he updates roughly every half official votecount

quiet, you

ok so vecna has a mod PT with UT

cool beans

Since people are talking about it, for the sake of eliminating WIFOM: I have a PT where I am providing my count of votes up to post (wherever) so that whoever has the Votecounter role will have as little work as possible.

^^ here's the progression where i pointed out the existence of a PT first and then Vecna confirmed it

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yeah actually i probably need to be modkilled thinking about it now :\

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okay fuck it in case i get modkilled:

I am MATI All-Natural Healthy Energy Drink, two shot doctor
i give people an extra boost of energy at night through my No Added Sugars formula

when i said my role would be conf'd alone it was to Gammagooey & hiplop, who were both at Survivormeet and know the existence/history of the MATI meme, which UT would *never* make as scum

however N1 I protected Gammagooey and there was no kill
I protected him again N2 because I'm an idiot and forgot about the Pine claim when I sent in my action

that's why I pushed so hard for the nsg lynch because i wanted to see if it was true and whether i can actually treat gamma as probably town

[xRECKONERx]

ok maybe it's not modkillable because i could be scum forcing UT to confirm it to the rest of the game for towncredit

[xRECKONERx]

in which case there's my claim

sorry for the spamposting i just finished a delicious can of MATI ALL NATURAL HEALTHY ENERGY!

[xRECKONERx]

That is a big post

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I got google glasses it said i can wear them at night that's about it

what the fuck are you talking about though. i was the biggest person screaming at titus for how stupid a fucking lightning rod was. how was i "seeing if it would gain traction" by shouting it down

it does give me information, sorry bud

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holy shit because i protected him and there was no kill so at least one of three things is true:

- scum shot brian (brian is town)
- pine blocked nsg from killing (nsg is scum)
- i stopped a kill on gamma (gamma is town)

so i want to untie this knot somehow and imo the best place to start is the scum possibility due to night actions

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im really done interacting with you for a while, brian

we disagree on the value of the information

lynching nsg forces scum's hand later to kill differently since it could also confirm other people in this knot we have going
like scum cannot leave all of us alive to endgame since all it takes is one domino falling to chain-confirm things later

and i am willing to take that risk on nsg.
the fact that it's so hard to get a lynch through on nsg is making me want it even more

PLUS her saying stupid shit like "I AM OBJECTIVELY CONFTOWN" and that bullshit is irritating as fuck and bullshit

[xRECKONERx]

I just posted my reads for Mollie this morning

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Why did reck just inst-roll with the NSG pile on instead of offering a counter suggestion? According to your role you knew there existed another possibility for everything to play out.

i wasn't planning on claiming today and was hoping to draw a NK with my overt claiming since i was out of doc shots

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i guess i should've claimed unlimited doc. dammit.

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oh you mean YESTERDAY

i went along with it because i thought if i could find a way to determine whether i was responsible for the lost kill or not, having a confirmed inno would be important

[xRECKONERx]

vax your question seems to be "why didn't reck counterclaim the rb claim" and i feel like i don't need to answer that for you

[xRECKONERx]

I think we will get more info about night actions by reck revealing. *shrug*

show your work please

how does my flip give more info than nsg

[xRECKONERx]

what do you mean

[xRECKONERx]

because im not a nonconsecutive doctor??? what on earth

[xRECKONERx]

i am claiming a role that could've been responsible for the no kill and wanted to wait it out to see if gamma was confirmed or not

i still support nsg dying.

i said i could clear ONE PERSON

are you failing basic reading comprehension again mollie

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also that doesn't answer the question

that answers the question i didn't ask: "why do you not believe my claim"

the question i actually asked was: "how does my flip give more information than an nsg flip"

try again

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it's so insane to me that the person pushing for my lynch perhaps the most was the one who this whole time had another explanation (and what is likely the real explanation).

still waiting for penguinpower to show up.

(still think reck is town, if it wasn't clear)

oh really

i thought you thought it was obvious brian skies would be shot

[xRECKONERx]

first it's that brian is OBVIOUSLY the correct answer to the puzzle

now it's OBVIOUSLY no not brian but reck did the saving

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maybe i misremembered someone else saying that as you nsg

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By the way, reck, what's your read on mollie?

town.

guess ill quote this again so people stop asking me for something i posted 12 hours ago

based on play i dont actually think nsg is scum

but im not letting this wifom bullshit go deep into the game

who do you think is scum

penguin, hyung, brian <--- one of these at least

town reads are gammagooey, bbmolla, you, LLD

everyone else (brian/cheeky/firebringer/titus/vaxkiller/alisae) are shades of null

[xRECKONERx]

And this game isn't easy which is why I doubt my gut.

didn't we lolwagon scum d1

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And this game isn't easy which is why I doubt my gut.

didn't we lolwagon scum d1

We cld lol hyung

again, missing the question im asking

ill restate my earlier question again: why does a lynch on me provide more information than a lynch on nsg

[xRECKONERx]

lld plz

[xRECKONERx]

id be fine lynching hyung i think now.

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hyung has lurkedalot anyway and his d2 posting wasnt thrilling

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it's not but thanks for your input cheeky

[xRECKONERx]

it's not but thanks for your input cheeky

Reasons that don't include inactivity would be nice. Why has your read turned from

hyung is town

To

id be fine lynching hyung i think now.

hyung has lurkedalot anyway and his d2 posting wasnt thrilling

After your tone change on an NSG wagon?

@NSG why do you town read Reck?

because ive realized the "imma vote titus but want reck really" stuff was gross enough to surpass my initial early game townposting read on him

we're in d3 now

although now that ive reminded myself of that, it feels icky.

i still think nsg needs to die before lylo and that's my biggest hangup honestly.
i think i would probably switch my vote to penguin right now if i wasn't so concerned with nsg going deep.

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like REGARDLESS OF NSG'S ALIGNMENT (which I'm waffling on, honestly) nsg being alive in an endgame situation makes everything shitty unless we have the perfect flips to explain what happened n1 with pine

that's what i am worried about

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is it though

like when is a better time to deal w/ it than when we have the least information we'll have in the game

if we can't get nsg lynched NOW what makes you think it'll happen later after we have more flips and geese to chase

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where is nsg in your pool mollie

[xRECKONERx]

also yeah

vla through sunday evening cuz scummer people are at my house

[xRECKONERx]

idk what WIM is

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Is there anything that you wld like me to look at? I am gonna try to work with you see what we come up with. I can see you doing all of this as town and I am just gonna with that. At least for now.

i dont have anything in particular, no

i feel like im at a brainblock right now until nsg is gone. like i just can't focus on anything else

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ok has anything happened

[xRECKONERx]

so then no

[xRECKONERx]

can u not

[xRECKONERx]

okay if there are VTs that's interesting because i got one of those "lolnotaVT" role UT is fond of

i know this from modding so many games with him -- before putting in a VT, he would first put in a role that is effectively useless (like a fruit vendor)

but maybe he didn't do that this game. i dunno.

either way, something stopped the kill, and pine's the best thing we have to go on so far

The entirety of this post gives me the impression that Reck was indicating that he had a completely different role than the 2-Shot Doc he claimed today.

In fact, I'd even go as far as to say this post pretty much confirms to me that Reck's lying so he can lynch NSG.

My point here was the stupid fruit vendor bullshit that UT uses in every game that is effectively useless but replaces the "lol VT" roles

like it has been a thing in every game i modded with him.

"i got one of those" means "i got an item from one of those roles"

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You could argue that the bolded here is him softing that he's a doc, but I completely disagree and think he was just using it as an example to shutdown anyone claiming and potentially stopping the NSG lynchwagon that was about to happen.

it is, in fact, my softclaiming a doc

good job

[xRECKONERx]

in what universe do i go "oh gee there could be a doc" and then later go "lol the doc was me" if i wasn't planning to do that

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And his initial reaction ot me claiming Bulletproof isn't 'oh hey, there's another role that could have stopped the kill, maybe it makes sense that NSG isn't roleblocked scum.'

His immediate reaction is to discredit my claim and set me up as fakeclaiming scum so he can continue to push the NSG wagon.

back in the old days, bulletproofs got told when they lost their vest if they were x-shot

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AND if Reck is scum here (and I do think that he probably just is), then this entire interaction here was set up to make Vecna look more townish off his claim rather than his play.

Y'know, because that's what scum actually care about. And that's what Reck tried to push for the rest of Day 1 before Vecna got lynched and Reck yolo-hammered (probably for sleezy towncred).

yes brian

i faked a conversation in which the moderator of this game slipped to me

then pre-empted the moderator of this game by posting in thread about something i knew before the moderator posted it

then fretted about getting modkilled, which led to me fullclaiming in case of a modkill

only to clear a scumbuddy who i hammered moments before deadline

jesus fucking christ im going to change my vote to cancel this game if the only other option is "deal with morons"

[xRECKONERx]

oh i thought i was ride or die town, mollie

the fuck happened to that

[xRECKONERx]

fuck you brian, you obstinate shit

[xRECKONERx]

@mollie:

d

1 was just a lot of apathy until a flashwagon happened on vecna end of day

o

bviously, vecna flipped scum

c

ome d2, there was no kill, pine claimed to block nsg, nsg claimed vt, brian claimed 1-shot bulletproof

tldr is we have to lynch nsg because we can't let a potential scumkill get blocked and not test it, but there's a slight possibility skies ate the shot with his bp vest if the claim is true (or some other combination of things happened)

i also breadcrumbed doc here after the stopped kill

[xRECKONERx]

Penguin has been inactive and refuses to do anything until questions are answered or something.

Gammagooey is trying to be sane but doesn't care enough to actually stick to his town read on me

BBmolla is the only one who seems to be on the same wavelength as me about NSG

hyung aka Marquis aka lurkbag who blew all our votecounts D1 then skipped town on the game

CheekyTeeky has just emptyvoted me after the last thing she said to me was "you're going into the town basket until I can ISO you"

LLD has promised to catch up and hasn't for basically the entire goddamn fucking game

Firebringer isn't even trying

pirate mollie just went from "yes reck is locktown ride or die wooo" to "nvm reck should die" for a stupid fucking reason that has been there the whole time but she acts like it's some goddamn revelation

Alisae has no will to play so my hope that I'll have at least some sanity from someone reading me correctly is dwindling

Titus's sole great contribution to the game was pushing a ridiculous Lightning Rod narrative on D2 and then sitting on her ass the entirety of D3 so far which is fair since she also wants NSG dead but we can't seem to get it

Brian Skies is leading a full pants-on-head case against me and just said "i refuse to read the stuff you wrote" so fuck him [funny; he is adamantly against lynching NSG because "well it COULD be something else that stopped the kill" but wants to lynch me while saying "well you COULD be lying" and explains away perfectly reasonable explanations]

Vaxkiller is the only person who gets a pass to vote me because his reasons are rational and his trajectory/growth on me makes logical sense

northsidegal needs to die and keeps AtEing and whining her way out of it even though her continued survival is going to fuck town over

and to top it all off, the fucking moderator can't be arsed to run the goddamn game to the point that the OP has not been updated since mid-Day 1 (nobody's dead yet, guys!) and rather than finding other replacements he wants to shut the game down after 6 weeks of time invested

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Reck the way you're evaluating your wagon is weird. Why are you avoiding saying who's scummy? Like are you saying Brian is scummy or just being silly?

because i have no barometer for what's scummy and what's just ass town play

this game has too many ass players right now

and i still have a mental block around nsg

if you're asking who i'd be okay seeing dead after nsg, the answer is:
penguin, hyung, you, lld, firebringer, mollie, brian

leaving my "don't touch" pool as gamma, bbmolla, alisae, titus, and vaxkiller

[xRECKONERx]

HEY BRIAN

@mollie:

d

1 was just a lot of apathy until a flashwagon happened on vecna end of day

o

bviously, vecna flipped scum

c

ome d2, there was no kill, pine claimed to block nsg, nsg claimed vt, brian claimed 1-shot bulletproof

tldr is we have to lynch nsg because we can't let a potential scumkill get blocked and not test it, but there's a slight possibility skies ate the shot with his bp vest if the claim is true (or some other combination of things happened)

i also breadcrumbed doc here after the stopped kill

[xRECKONERx]

HEY BRIAN

@mollie:

d

1 was just a lot of apathy until a flashwagon happened on vecna end of day

o

bviously, vecna flipped scum

c

ome d2, there was no kill, pine claimed to block nsg, nsg claimed vt, brian claimed 1-shot bulletproof

tldr is we have to lynch nsg because we can't let a potential scumkill get blocked and not test it, but there's a slight possibility skies ate the shot with his bp vest if the claim is true (or some other combination of things happened)

i also breadcrumbed doc here after the stopped kill

Yeah, but that came after I already claimed. So idgaf.

Or you're actually a scum doc.

Or you're the town doc that can't be trusted to actually protect the people that matter (rip Pine), and you're play is so detrimental to town that you should be the lynch since we're better off without you.

And I still think you're scum.

So whoooooo caaaaaaaaaaarrrrressssssssss?

but but but pine wasn't confirmed RB i thought??????

that was your whole argument for not wanting to go through on the nsg lynch

that's LITERALLY YOUR WHOLE POINT

and yet now it's OH WELL YOU OBVIOUSLY SHOULD'VE PROTECTED PINE EVEN THOUGH I MYSELF SAID HIS RB CLAIM WASN'T VERIFIED

what is this scum logic

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oh man.

nsg/brian are the team?

nsg's kill got blocked by pine, brian jumps in with the WELL UH IT COULD'VE BEEN ME to save her, discredits pine's claim, now is pushing the doctor acting like pine's claim was just so believable that i should've protected pine

[xRECKONERx]

@mod: pine is dead

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@brian

i fail to see how me crumbing my role after you claimed bulletproof is some kind of fucking smoking gun

pine already claimed, i wasn't planning to claim too, then you claimed, i saw this heading for the goddamn clusterfuck it has become so i crumbed my role as a stopgap measure INCASE THIS EXACT THING HAPPENED

i would gladly accept a lynch on brian today in lieu of nsg that would also clear up some stupid shit and brian's argument is just too wishy washy for me to believe he would actually believe it as town

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LMFAO

brian's whole fucking day 2 shtick about why we shouldn't lynch nsg was "whoa now we don't know what stopped the kill!! we don't even know if pine is really a roleblocker!! or there could be other roles!!"

so while brian was dicking around with "WhO kNoWs WhAt Is TrUe!?!?!?" he simultaneously expected me to be so locked in on pine telling the truth that i would protect him due to knowing his claim was true?
instead of protecting the person i protected n1 who I had a big town read on and thought scum may try to kill again if they failed the first time???

[xRECKONERx]

okay i started to iso brian to reread the stuff yesterday and the first bit of it doesn't line up with my memory

however, i was just told by my work that EMERGENCY we actually DO have to update our site's privacy policy to be compliant with the new EU law so i'm going to be out of pocket for the rest of the day probably and tomorrow too

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I dont like recks post about them thinking scum would kill brain and that means nsg is scum. It's really fucking me read up on them.

no, nsg needs to be lynched due to pine's night actions

Again, ELI5, how this is confirmed.

it's not confirmed
im arguing that nsg living til lylo with a potential "guilty" on her in terms of a rb stopping the kill is not possible

if she's a mislynch, scum can bank on her being easy mislynch fodder later due to pine's rb claim
if she's a scum lynch, then we win

either way it's a pro-town move

QUOTING AGAIN FOR EMPHASIS

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the stuff that didn't line up is that brian never doubted pine's claim

in fact, he took it to be true

but still tried to discredit it by saying "ooooh well it could've been anything"

i seriously debated whether to protect brian, pine, or gamma last night. and i landed on gamma because i had already protected him once and i had an actual town read on him

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actually brian why didn't you ever doubt pine's claim? you and nsg both seemed to immediately be like "yes he is a roleblocker uh-huh it's just irrelevant"

that's weird to me and i don't know how to read it. i think as town you'd be more suspicious of the rb if you don't believe nsg was the kill source.

i sorta found it shocking that people believed brian was a strong nk target because he wasn't standing out to me as some bastion of townieness d1 but maybe he was, i dunno

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brian replaced??

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actually brian why didn't you ever doubt pine's claim? you and nsg both seemed to immediately be like "yes he is a roleblocker uh-huh it's just irrelevant"

that's weird to me and i don't know how to read it. i think as town you'd be more suspicious of the rb if you don't believe nsg was the kill source.

i sorta found it shocking that people believed brian was a strong nk target because he wasn't standing out to me as some bastion of townieness d1 but maybe he was, i dunno

trying to get as many thoughts out there before i have to go

yeah you had a townread on gamma when no1 really did cos this is the most likely person to be nked over the claimed blocker whom you never seemed to have doubted and who's guilty you tried to follow before your hammer on mutant and who's guilty you are pushing even tho you don't think she is scum.

do I have this right?

i dont care what other people's reads were
i cared about my reads and this game already made me want to kill myself so i wasn't going to lose gamma in the process

that's about it.

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actually brian why didn't you ever doubt pine's claim? you and nsg both seemed to immediately be like "yes he is a roleblocker uh-huh it's just irrelevant"

that's weird to me and i don't know how to read it. i think as town you'd be more suspicious of the rb if you don't believe nsg was the kill source.

i sorta found it shocking that people believed brian was a strong nk target because he wasn't standing out to me as some bastion of townieness d1 but maybe he was, i dunno

trying to get as many thoughts out there before i have to go

yeah you had a townread on gamma when no1 really did cos this is the most likely person to be nked over the claimed blocker whom you never seemed to have doubted and who's guilty you tried to follow before your hammer on mutant and who's guilty you are pushing even tho you don't think she is scum.

do I have this right?

i dont care what other people's reads were
i cared about my reads and this game already made me want to kill myself so i wasn't going to lose gamma in the process

that's about it.

you had pine as town reck

pine being town was predicated on the claim

gamma being town was bc my bones were vibrating

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yes read the fucking thread

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literally my last... 2 posts have been about why i doc'd gamma again

i dont care what other people's reads were
i cared about my reads and this game already made me want to kill myself so i wasn't going to lose gamma in the process

pine being town was predicated on the claim

gamma being town was bc my bones were vibrating

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Has Reck said why he didn't protect Pine?

he forgot Pine was a roleblocker lol

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i have no idea what that means

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meta is trash

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meta is trash

Fuck you.

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or PP
thats an ok vote too but I vastly prefer Reck

when the fuck did you decide to push me

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a roleblock on me isn't a guilty. that's not difficult to see.

holy shit LITERALLY NOBODY IS CLAIMING IT IS stop fucking strawmanning

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okay well ginngie's dumb then

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not particularly but i would probably hammer anyone that got to L-1 that isn't named gammagooey or bbmolla at this point

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you reck whats your deal with nsg then

I dont like recks post about them thinking scum would kill brain and that means nsg is scum. It's really fucking me read up on them.

no, nsg needs to be lynched due to pine's night actions

Again, ELI5, how this is confirmed.

it's not confirmed
im arguing that nsg living til lylo with a potential "guilty" on her in terms of a rb stopping the kill is not possible

if she's a mislynch, scum can bank on her being easy mislynch fodder later due to pine's rb claim
if she's a scum lynch, then we win

either way it's a pro-town move

QUOTING AGAIN FOR EMPHASIS

third time ive posted this now

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potential guilty meaning the roleblock is a plausible explanation for the lack of nightkill

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I'm okay with ending her before a potential LYLO situation if it becomes that big of an issue. But LYLO still seems pretty far away so...

is it though

like when is a better time to deal w/ it than when we have the least information we'll have in the game

if we can't get nsg lynched NOW what makes you think it'll happen later after we have more flips and geese to chase

and it seems like most people felt like it did need to get dealt with eventually there was just arguments as to when

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what were the other two ways of stopping the kill

and reck did you ever claim protective

yes

breadcrumbed, fullclaimed when i thought i was getting modkilled

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what were the other two ways of stopping the kill

and reck did you ever claim protective

wait brian was softclaiming a way to stop the kill but maybe he was being cryptic on purpose

do you or do you not have a way to stop the kill

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k ginngie is town

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alisae you've not answered why you awkwardly and abruptly changed your read on me

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so basically "i didn't protect pine"

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somehow

"reck was bored and lazy with the game and just picked gamma again"

is less believable than

"reck is scum who breadcrumbed doc, faked an entire convo with UT to look like a modkill, fullclaimed as a result of that faked conversation, didn't get modkilled, then claimed a role that would purposefully draw him heat"

owenwilsonwow.mp3

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somehow

"reck was bored and lazy with the game and just picked gamma again"

is less believable than

"reck is scum who breadcrumbed doc, faked an entire convo with UT to look like a modkill, fullclaimed as a result of that faked conversation, didn't get modkilled, then claimed a role that would purposefully draw him heat"

owenwilsonwow.mp3

I think of it more like:

"reck was bored and lazy with the game and just picked gamma again over the role blocker"

or

"reck was bored and lazy with the game and just picked something cos no1 is really paying attention"

yes
i actively breadcrumbed a role as scum
then picked a nonsensical target to fakeclaim as scum

like on what fucking planet

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2/2 BAYBEEEE

VOTE: Penguin

fuck it

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unvote

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i wanna hammer it

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actually fuck it i dont care enough let's just get this over with

VOTE: penguin

go for it ginngie

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i lied i was a 3-shot doc lmao doc'd gamma again last night



VOTE: Titus

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me/gamma conftown till the ends of the earth, eat a dick scum

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me/gamma/bbmolla/nsg can just town bloc to the end right

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idk unless you're saying they shot brianslot which seems equally implausible

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oh fuck i forgot to wear my googleglasses idk what they do

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Hey reck, why arent you going full throttle against nsg anymore?

bc i think after yesterday she's town lel and i was comfortable letting that go a bit longer since we have more time thanks to dead scum

but molla solved it already for me

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@molla why didn't you delay vig nsg n2

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oh i forgot mollie was here, she can join in place of our soon to be dead nsg

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Fire's night action should get him lynched.

please elaborate

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I wanna lynch fire nsg or mollie

oh ok bye Titus
VOTE: Titus

@Gamma, Nope. Mollie's voting me.

You're human Gamma but you're starting from the position I must be wrong and frankly I don't care to fight it.

am i blind or is that not alisae voting you

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i guess i somehow missed all of that? can you recap for me

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goddammit ginngie

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VOTE: mariar

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HAHAHA SUCK IT GINNGIE

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LLD was good. Made the right kills when necessary.

I'm salty as all fuck about it but yeah, LLD deserves a lot of praise.

That is the absolute last time I let you maneuver into my blindspot though