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Post Post #43 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 13, Wisdom wrote:i dont know andriod but this^ pinged me for trying too hard
Meanwhile, right above their post:
In post 11, Brian Skies wrote:Town
Brian Skies - The pinnacle of what obvtown should be.

Less Town
andriod18 - Can't even spell its own name.
Katsuki - Who doesn't like cupcakes?

Somewhat Town
Wisdom - One of the more underrated D&D stats.
mastina - Might get herself lynched anyway.
Human Sequencer - Somebody has to defend the RVS.
grapes - The Mod felt the need to confirm something from him for whatever reason.

No Idea
Purrcocet - Is this supposed to be a floating cat head?
Ginngie - Pick a color.
Nosferatu - Colors are hard.
Moment - No idea.
Dunnstral - No idea.

A Little Scummy
Kokichi Oma - Danganronpa.

Less Scummy
zMuffinMan - Just look at that avatar.

Scum
Nancy Drew 39 - What happened to the other 38 of them?
Kaede Akamatsu - Danganronpa.
hebichan - The most pretentious Pokemon.

VOTE: Kaede Akamatsu
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Post Post #46 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:35 am

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Seems like scum wisdom so far
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Post Post #48 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:39 am

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A joke post can be trying too hard
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Post Post #50 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:41 am

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Hey grapes, I have a proposal, once you decide to start the voting, can the first vote you place be on yourself, followed up by you switching to your real vote?
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Post Post #57 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:55 am

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In post 53, Human Sequencer wrote:there's no more detail to my kaede read, a18
if I had more to say on the slot I would have said it

Dunn, why is wisdom scummy
muffin, why is hebi potentially scummy

pedit: read rules
we can't vote till grapes does
I didn't like his opening and posting around andriod
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Post Post #79 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:53 am

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In post 77, mastina wrote:BTW investigatives should stay off me; they'd be wasting their action.
I'm a D3 Innocent Child.
If you are wondering, no, not automatic; I have to manually trigger it.
Nice fakeclaim

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Post Post #80 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:54 am

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In post 66, Wisdom wrote:
In post 46, Dunnstral wrote:Seems like scum wisdom so far
what is your idea of scum wisdom?
Awkward early game
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Post Post #147 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:02 pm

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In post 111, grapes wrote:Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first
Theorizing that your vote may have additional powers on your first vote if you're scum (while your role is strong enough stand-alone if town) so by self voting first vote you remove that bit of doubt
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Post Post #148 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:03 pm

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In post 114, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 113, Moment wrote:I have a hard time believing that anyone could actually have this sort of thought process and ask that question.
The underline is that, FakeGod has in fact used a role that has been present on several players but effective at different game days for each, hence seeing a D3 IC is not something outside what he would do, hence I asked that question. It is possible that Dunnstral either A) Doesn't know this, B) Is trying to throw shade at mastina or C) Does in fact have something to counter that statement. The question is to verify within which option does this fall.
I was meaning to fake claim ic and fake a reveal but apparently nobody picked up on it, I'm past that now
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Post Post #264 (isolation #9) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:57 pm

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In post 236, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 231, mastina wrote:I kinda want to see how much suspicion I can garner on my slot prior to D3 tho.
Claiming D3 IC isnt a good way of garneing suspicion lol xD
I doubt anyone would suspect you now.
I suspect her

I don't think she's a D3 IC at all, and she's going to come up with why it was a good gambit when the time comes, or say she can be somehow roleblocked, or something
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Post Post #285 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:21 pm

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In post 278, hebichan wrote:VOTE: Mastina

There's no way this is a real claim.

Why the hell would you even claim it day one.

As for people voting me, I'm not buddying, I'm trying to sort by the meta I remember. Wisdom seems off, most everyone else including keade and grapes seem very similar to past games I have played with them.
Didn't say I would vote her today
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Post Post #286 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:22 pm

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In post 279, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 232, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 147, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 111, grapes wrote:Sure thing but i wanna hear dunn's angle first
Theorizing that your vote may have additional powers on your first vote if you're scum (while your role is strong enough stand-alone if town) so by self voting first vote you remove that bit of doubt
Do you have prior experience with roles like this? Because this is such a strange thing to be worried about, and even if Grapes did have some sort of special first-time voting power, why was your immediate request to have him waste it on himself?
Hey Dunn!

I asked you a question.
Two in fact.
First part: Yes

Second part: I explained that I thought him having a power like that would mean he was likely scum balance wise
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Post Post #287 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:22 pm

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The hebi vote in 278 gives me bad feelings because it's riding off a bunch of other people talking about Mastina
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Post Post #299 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:34 pm

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In post 298, Human Sequencer wrote:with the caveat that she might be d3 ic
Yes, and I don't advocate for voting Mastina before that time either
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Post Post #342 (isolation #14) » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:18 pm

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VOTE: Nancy
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Post Post #352 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 349, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:assuming town is smart enough to not mislynch me
Don't overestimate us
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Post Post #354 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:09 pm

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"Necromancer peops" so I assume she's referring to a group of people, I don't know beyond that
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Post Post #360 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:39 pm

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In post 356, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think at least one of Dunn, Nos, Kat is possibly a wolf.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:40 pm

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In post 359, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:aggressively pushing Wisdom lynch.
Not even true
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Post Post #395 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:58 pm

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In post 381, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:he had been aggressively scumreading others
Once again, this didn't happen
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Post Post #421 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:47 pm

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In post 420, Human Sequencer wrote:tune in quickly please
otherwise i'm gonna have to scumread you
uh oh
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Post Post #425 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:01 pm

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Alright, I'll concede that Nancy is fine, i don't agree with what she's saying but whatever, also have no clue what Brian's problem with me is, or why everyone wants to vote Kaede (she's towny to me)

VOTE: Katsuki
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Post Post #455 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:54 pm

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Uh oh
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Post Post #561 (isolation #23) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:22 pm

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A bunch of people voting at once isn't scummy

And yes, Wisdom is scummy and moment looks town
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Post Post #562 (isolation #24) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:22 pm

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In post 561, Dunnstral wrote:A bunch of people voting at once isn't scummy

And yes, Wisdom is scummy and moment looks town
I mean, look at the way he analyzes and makes long posts
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Post Post #571 (isolation #25) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:37 pm

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the 5 votes happening doesn't mean there's scum in those votes
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Post Post #593 (isolation #26) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:10 pm

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In post 573, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 561, Dunnstral wrote:A bunch of people voting at once isn't scummy

And yes, Wisdom is scummy and moment looks town

Image
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Post Post #602 (isolation #27) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:45 pm

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I think Wisdom is acting way overconfident on Moment
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Post Post #604 (isolation #28) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:46 pm

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So you always act overconfident?
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Post Post #606 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 pm

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That's not what I said

If you're saying you do act overconfident (as town), then I assume you'd do the same as scum, either way it isn't a good idea to follow you
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Post Post #611 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:31 pm

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In post 565, Andriod18 wrote:Alright all caught up a few things on my mind

1) Why is no one talking about grapes? He feels really scummy given the few posts he has. Lurking yes but scummy none the less.
2) Do people agree or disagree that since Nancy is obv town that the 5 voters in question are scummy.
3) Reads on (Brain Hebi grapes Gin) would be nice
1) I think from him was scummy - I didn't expect him to have voted so soon, and was kind of caught off guard that he just went along with me like that. Feels like he was trying to appease me or something, felt off.
2) Disagree, there are town motivations to getting a wagon going. Nancy was far from obvious town when she was getting voted
3) Hebi is the only one I wouldn't want lynched here - They've felt more town than not so far to me, and I don't think scum votes mastina here (unless mastina is scum I guess). Brian I haven't really understood this game and is below null for me. Ginngie and grapes are at about the same level, I remember not liking what Ginngie had posted (somebody said it was an overreaction and I agree)
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Post Post #612 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:34 pm

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In post 609, Wisdom wrote:For whoever has a little time on their hands;

Good read: Perpetual Mylo III

Features:
-Me catching a verbose and manipulative scum yet nobody listening to me
-Scum Dunnstral shading me
-Scum Kaede
Good job finding a mafia in a game with 5 mafia btw

Your play isn't nearly as good as you think it is
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Post Post #614 (isolation #32) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:37 pm

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I think nosferatu is lowkey scummy too
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Post Post #615 (isolation #33) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:40 pm

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In post 614, Dunnstral wrote:I think nosferatu is lowkey scummy too
@andriod 18

And Ginngie isn't as bad as I thought, up at brian level, not grapes/Wisdom level
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Post Post #616 (isolation #34) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:44 pm

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In post 525, Purrcocet wrote:only grapes could master all 4 elements but when the world needed him most, he vanished
I enjoy this
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Post Post #617 (isolation #35) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:52 pm

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@andriod 18

Spoiler:
mastina (figure out day 3)


Human sequencer
zMuffinMan
kaede
moment
andriod 18
hebi
kokichi
purrcocet
nancy
-----LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE-----
nosferatu
ginngie
Brian guy
Katsuki
wisdom
grape













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Post Post #625 (isolation #36) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:38 pm

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Me: Wisdom is acting overconfident in his reads

Wisdom: I always act overconfident in my reads, also Dunn is discrediting me for making me admit to that
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Post Post #628 (isolation #37) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:43 pm

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I do think it's weird that Nancy did a 180 on me and the way she talked about me when I said she could be town
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Post Post #637 (isolation #38) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:46 pm

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In post 356, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 350, Brian Skies wrote:I would consider Wisdom anything other than lynchbait. Why do you have this impression of him?

Who is Necromancer?
My last game on here, which I played with Wisdom, Koichina, Ginghie (Eddie Cane). Wisdom who was town in that game was one of two people pushing my mislynch and I would have been too, had Eddie not unvoted me before I could be hammered. On d2, everyone had me at locktown. The worst wanted to policy lynch me for being mislynchbait.

I don’t see why Wisdom is scum here. While I disagree with him on his “town don’t want to look town” here, he doesn’t seem to be any different here than in that game.

Looking at the votes on me, I dislike Dunnstral’s ISO the most. I think at least one of Dunn, Nos, Kat is possibly a wolf.
In post 359, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 358, zMuffinMan wrote:what do you think of kaede's vote on you and what is your read on kaede?
Well, she’s obviously wrong. I have never played with her before, so have no meta to work off of and why I still don’t understand her vote on me but based on her ISO, she doesn’t strike me as someone who’s vote on me is particularly likely to be opportunistic because the vast majority of her posts on here have been pretty extrnsive.

I hate mislynches, so I would rather sort someone like her out. That’s why I didn’t include in her in the most likely list of possible wolves on my wagon because I have no doubt that the scum vote(s) on me is most likely an opportunistic vote.

Dunn’s ISO seems to be full of weird posts, like demanding Grape self-vote (trying to hard to look town), Insisting, rather than speculating that Mastina’s claim has to be fake and aggressively pushing Wisdom lynch. All of this before opportunistically sheeping onto my wagon.
In post 381, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 372, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 365, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 362, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 356, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think at least one of Dunn, Nos, Kat is possibly a wolf
the language here is interesting
How so?
"possibly" is a weak word
especially when combined with "at least"

(ignoring any other issues i might have with that statement, such as why she didn't include kaede or why she picked three names and made no conclusion about which one she thought was most likely or anything)
Possibly is a weak word and for good reason because I don’t like to use strong words unless I’m sure. I did feel more strongly that Brian, Moment or Kaede weren’t likely to be them and Kaede has already validated my reason for excluding her because her vote on me was a reaction test not opportunistic.

I was the most sus on Dunn because he had been aggressively scumreading others. What I am trying to reconcile is his “don’t overestimate us” comment with his vote still being on me. Why? With that statement he is clearly expressing doubt about his vote so him leaving it on me, would clearly be a contradiction.
In post 396, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 390, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 385, zMuffinMan wrote:
In post 367, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Do you think I’m incorrect about this and that my wagon is 100% town? Because that would definitely be a first
what do you think of post #363 (both in the context of what you just said and just as a general post)?
In post 363, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 352, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 349, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:assuming town is smart enough to not mislynch me
Don't overestimate us
If you truly believe this then why is your vote still on me? Maybe you aren’t the wolf on my wagon? But why would you be so quick to vote me then?
It's a very confusing post.

However, if I break it down, I assume what Dunn intends to mean is that if Nancy is indeed town, that he doesn't really think town should be expected to realize that she could be a bad lynch and not mislynch her.

Her immediate reaction seems fine, as she questions the sentiment, especially if Nancy thinks Dunn admitted to thinking she's mislynch bait. The third question follows up on her suspicion. The big issue I have is the second question, because it has this weird conflict where she considers him to be town, and I don't know why it's there.
If by his statement he is actually doubting his vote, was my initial interpretation of his comment. I didn’t think of the way you interpreted it but in either case, his comment doesn’t look good on him if he doesn’t remove his vote. It seems like it could possibly viewed as possible fallback for when he anticipates me flipping town. You OTOH, did not do that. You see my point here? I think I may be right. You are questioning, which I expect town to do, where as he already seems to be anticipating my flip and how to spin it, if your interpretation of his post is the correct one. I suppose I could be reaching here but I thought it was a strange comment to make because he was addressing me like he knew I was town.

@Dunnstral which is it? Are you doubting your vote on me or is it a fallback because you already know what my flip will be?
In post 444, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 411, Kokichi Oma wrote:Why am I town Nancy?

Also, that was a weird wagon on Nancy and needs to be looked at later on in the game. As soon as I stated that if Nancy didn't obvtown, I was going to vote her a weird wagon of 6 or 7 formed. Her posts have been ok so far, so I don't see myself voting there right now. Nancy what is your Wisdom read?
Well, I can’t say you’re someone I can easily read but you don’t seem to have an agenda like you did in Necro with your Eevee push. I liked your quick defense on Kaede and the whole way you’ve interacted with me and your comments about people pushing me seem to come from a town perspective.

He doesn’t really seem all that different to me than he did in Necro. It seemed to me that his push on Kaede was based on history but it looks like he came around on that. Like I’d probably be far more likely to scumread Sugar in any future games I’d play with them.

This is probably not a good barometer but it reads well to me that no one in Necro suddenly jumped on my wagon. Dunnstral should also know my meta a bit and not have voted me but I liked his townreading Kaede. Meh.

I’m sorry if I’m not “obvtowning” yet. I don’t usually do that until I really get into the game, like I did on d2, when I figured Zito couldn’t possibly be scum due to his vote on you in Necro.

In post 425, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I'll concede that Nancy is fine, i don't agree with what she's saying but whatever, also have no clue what Brian's problem with me is, or why everyone wants to vote Kaede (she's towny to me)

VOTE: Katsuki

In post 450, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 425, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I'll concede that Nancy is fine, i don't agree with what she's saying but whatever, also have no clue what Brian's problem with me is, or why everyone wants to vote Kaede (she's towny to me)

VOTE: Katsuki
I’m good with that wagon. Their ISO is entirely devoid of any game content. Sometimes, I miss things on my first read.

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

VOTE: Katsuki
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In post 458, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 453, Wisdom wrote:Kaede i scumread katsuki in every game too
If i go by your logic i should only vote people i dont know d1
His ISO has no game content and he sheeped onto my wagon without giving any reason. Brass did the same thing and he had a much better ISO.
I strongly believe there was at least one wolf on my wagon and it wasn’t Brian or Kaede. Nos has somewhat redeemed himself and Dunnstral is townreading Kaede. I think moment is more likely to be town than Katsuke but I’m open to debate. I think I can cross off nos off of my wolf list. I don’t think scum does that much of a 180 as to list me as hardtown.

Dunnstral townreading Kaede makes me not want to vote there. So, it’s between Katsuki and Moment. Was scum pushing my wagon or sheeping it? Which do you think is more likely?
In post 462, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 460, Wisdom wrote:
In post 457, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 452, Wisdom wrote:nancy scum are not obligated to agree with your wagon
whoever goes against it isnt automatically town
youre still thinking in black and white
I disagree about the black and white thing. Tell my why scum!Purr objected to my wagon then?
Scum know you are a mislynch
Thus if scum stay away from your wagon they get towncred for not participating in it
If they can let it happen without getting their hands dirty it works best for them
Some might even loudly object for added effect - then they can demand they are listened to the next day and push another mislynch

Therefore, someone objecting to your lynch doesnt mean they are town. Thats a fallacy created by your mind because you immediately think "what a nice person, they dont want to lynch me". But you have to look deeper
That’s not true. I can definitely see scum doing that. I just don’t see that in this case. What is his motivation? He couldn’t have had a crystal ball and have forseen that players would later strenuously object to my wagon. It would be a lot scummier if he just said I’d rather sort out Nancy d2 because it’s not really in his best interest to townread a likely mislynch.

In Necro, the initial players who most strenuously objected to my wagon were both villas: Eddie and Srcee and later, the worst. Generally the main reason for scum to do what you suggest is that they have an even better mislynch in the works but otherwise, not that likely based on my experience. Of course, I need to look at other factors but with it being extremely likely one of my votes coming from scum, I’d rather lynch there first. In Necro two of my votes came from scum. This has been the case in almost every single one of my wagons: one vote is almost guaranteed to be scum. So I have given a case for everyone on my wagon. As for Brian, his push reminds me of Ty’s. I don’t have any strong basis to townread either Katsuke or Moment. I can’t see voting Kaede, Brian or Nos and as I’ve already stated, Dunn hardtown reads Kaede. I see no reason to townread Katsuke. His ISO is garbage and he sheeped onto a bad wagon, so I’m good leaving my vote on him. I’m open to Moment because I remember Kokichi leading the Eevee wagon.
In post 463, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 461, Wisdom wrote:
In post 459, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Dunnstral townreading Kaede makes me not want to vote there.
I dont understand this either
I think Kaede is town and Dunnstral does as well. Kaede has been very far from being widely read as obvtown, so I’m reasoning it’s more likely to be a villa read than a scumread. Do you think Dunnstral is scum?
In post 580, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 557, Andriod18 wrote:
In post 376, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 370, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Anyway I think for a townie the natural reaction to getting suddenly wagoned like that is to assume there's scum on their wagon and you're already working on finding said scum, so maybe im wrong here.
UNVOTE:
Well in Necro, there wound up being two wolves on my wagon, both of them were just sheeping and one of them in particular didn’t even bother giving a reason for it. That’s one of the reasons I excluded Moment as a possibility because if there’s a wolf on my wagon, it’s likely to be someone who is sheeping and probably opportunistic.
Wolves don’t usually push d1 wagons, due to the much greater chance to mislynch.
I like this post considering Nancy is new this line of thinking makes a lot of sense to me although I would like to see a scum Nancy game
Nancy can you link a scum game you've played?
In post 399, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:VOTE: Dunnstral
I also want to make a point that Nancy feels rather towny on page 16 she's trying to find scum on her wagon instead of trying to survive, where as I think scum would try to prove why they're not scum more then go for scum. Look at posts to see my point.
In post 413, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I think nancy is bleeding town and that muffin is being nitpicky.
Also Agree on this. I think I explained this well enough but I will again for anyone still questioning Nancy
In post 425, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I'll concede that Nancy is fine, i don't agree with what she's saying but whatever, also have no clue what Brian's problem with me is, or why everyone wants to vote Kaede (she's towny to me)

VOTE: Katsuki
Hm maybe Dunnstral is bad town? As long as they stick on Katsuki for now I have no problems I guess.
In post 427, Nosferatu wrote:{nancy, muffin, brian} <--- townreads so far

I'm gonna townhunt this game so I don't have to read as much (4 games and a piano concerto to write rn)
Why brian he's one of my more confident scumreads for his actions on pages I just stated.
In post 438, Wisdom wrote:Katsuki, Moment, Purr, Hebi, Gingie

Is there any reason I should be townreading any of those
Good list would take out moment but besides that it seems fine.
Hi, no sorry I can’t as I have yet to rand scum. One thing I don’t understand, how is Brian scummier than moment? Moment seems to have an agenda whereas Brian does not. Moment basically pushed a wagon on me based on a post that Purr clearly recognized as NAI and then vowed to push my mislynch at some point later in the game. That read agenday and scummy to me. It was all in the way it was phrased that gave me scum vibes. Brian OTOH. seemed open to considering other points of view and his posts implied no agenda where I was concerned. It’s not unvilagary to place a bad vote, it’s unvillagery to vote or push a lynch with an agenda. While it’s certainly possible that scum was to be found in one of the people who suddenly jumped on my wagon, I was able to see towntells in everyone but Katsuke and moment. Kaede was obvious due to her vote being a reaction test rather than a vote. I’ve already explained Brian and moment. Nos did a 180 after he jumped off and hardtown read me. I liked Dunn’s hardtown reading Kaede, so that left those two. While Katsuke could definitely still be scum mainly because he voted me without giving a single reason, I got strong scumvibes from moment’s filing me away for later post. Something in the phrasing in the second portion of that post, just seemed off to me. What pinged was the sense that he was determined to push a wagon on me no matter what although he later backtracked on that.
The way you talk about me before and after is different, though I see now how often you say I am HARD townreading Kaede

Your interpretation of my read on Kaede is confusing to me as well, I just went back and checked what I had actually said about Kaede, here's what I said:
In post 425, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I'll concede that Nancy is fine, i don't agree with what she's saying but whatever, also have no clue what Brian's problem with me is, or why everyone wants to vote Kaede (she's towny to me)

VOTE: Katsuki
That's... it
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i assumed u had me as red
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Post Post #639 (isolation #39) » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:49 pm

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Like, the way you talk about Kaede and my read on her and you not wanting to vot eher because of my read on her doesn't really make sense
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Post Post #713 (isolation #40) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:40 am

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That's not a case
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Post Post #720 (isolation #41) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:04 am

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None of what you jsut said gives a reason to vote Moment
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Post Post #726 (isolation #42) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:25 am

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In post 722, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 720, Dunnstral wrote:None of what you jsut said gives a reason to vote Moment
ye ok but he's either town or not, do you think he's town?
yes
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Post Post #728 (isolation #43) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:39 am

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That isn't how this works, people who are voting him (including you) need to explain why he is a good vote (vs just naked voting him with approaching deadline)
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Post Post #730 (isolation #44) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:42 am

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I guess this conversation is over then
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Post Post #732 (isolation #45) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:44 am

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Just realized there are no activity rules in the ruleset, so that's nice
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Post Post #741 (isolation #46) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 739, FakeGod wrote:
Ankamius replaces hebichan.
What just happened
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Post Post #759 (isolation #47) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:16 am

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So hebichan said they would catch up then pm'd the mod saying they would replace out?
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Post Post #760 (isolation #48) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:20 am

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In post 748, Moment wrote:
@Dunnstral
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@Kokichi
: I don't think either of the wagons you're on will be going through today. Thoughts on a Nosferatu wagon? Alternatively, convince me to vote with you?

I'd also like to hear everyone's thoughts on Ginngie, although from how the game has gone so far I don't expect that to be a viable wagon.
Katsuki won't go through because why?
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Post Post #764 (isolation #49) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 696, Katsuki wrote:Oh ya since so many pages popped up and I don't have the energy to read them, I'll take this time to say that I'm an absurdly powerful town role (D5 IC) this game hence I'll be powerlurking until my death ty all.

Not buying this one, lynch him
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Post Post #765 (isolation #50) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:27 am

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Can we talk about how Hebichan said they would catch up then 2 hours later is replaced out THEN the mod prods people after

Like,Hebichan must have requested replacement - why did she lie to us and say she was catching up?
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Post Post #776 (isolation #51) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:47 am

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VOTE: Wisdom
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Post Post #907 (isolation #52) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:14 pm

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In post 903, grapes wrote:I'd lynch wisdom too i guess.

My dilemma is currently that I thought we were trying ot get a lynch so i rushed getting caught up and just iso'd top wagons and things and I have work tomorrow and im sleepy
We are trying to get a lynch. I'll vote Wisdom or Katsuki
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Post Post #929 (isolation #53) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:44 pm

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We should trust each other
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Post Post #934 (isolation #54) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:58 pm

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Why are you claiming
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Post Post #943 (isolation #55) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:23 pm

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Stop giving out role info
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #56) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:35 am

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VOTE: grapes

Looks like scum to me, especially after posts like being designed to throw s hade when they're supposed to not have a clue what's going on
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #57) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:32 pm

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VOTE: grapes
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #58) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:46 pm

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No case no lynch
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #59) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:56 pm

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I remember talking about grapes a bit, probably more than most people have talked about Kaede, which is something since kaede also has 4 times as many posts to talk about
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #60) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:47 pm

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Kaede lynch is lazy
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #61) » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:27 pm

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Yeah boi
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #62) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:07 am

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I believe Kaede and Grape claims

I think Andriod is town, i think you guys are looking at things the wrong way but I don't really want to elaborate
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #63) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:16 am

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I don't believe katsuki's ic claim.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:16 pm

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Stop claiming vanilla cops

Even if there are more, it's not beneficial at this point
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:09 pm

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In post 1374, Dunnstral wrote:Stop claiming vanilla cops

Even if there are more, it's not beneficial at this point
This is important. Remember that there are main characters roles in this game, and that one is confirmed town.
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:41 pm

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In post 1378, Nosferatu wrote:at least one is town

that's legit the most useless info
Main character roles are stronger than normal roles
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #67) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:41 pm

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VOTE: Ginngie
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #68) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:17 pm

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In post 1392, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1389, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1378, Nosferatu wrote:at least one is town

that's legit the most useless info
Main character roles are stronger than normal roles
says who?
Says me
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #69) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:18 pm

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Today's mafia consumer demands dozens, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #70) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:21 pm

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What if Nancy claims vt as scum to try to get her vanilla cop buddy to check her and claim results later
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #71) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:22 pm

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Those posts you guys love to quote about andriod talking about a goon mafia and then asking if it's role madness?

Guess what, she's a vanilla cop.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:25 pm

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It's been established that the role pm for vanilla cop talks about goon showing up as vanilla

It looks like andriod is thinking there's a vanilla mafia, but also thinks the game is role madness
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:27 pm

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In post 1460, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1458, Dunnstral wrote:It's been established that the role pm for vanilla cop talks about goon showing up as vanilla

It looks like andriod is thinking there's a vanilla mafia, but also thinks the game is role madness
Vanilla Cop would essentially confirm the idea of a Vanilla Townie, no?
Kind of? There can still be a goon, it does imply that at least one person shows up vanilla at least. Assuming it's role madness is okay too.

What interests me is that weird voting thing with grapes, and how grapes claims to not know why that was a thing
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:25 pm

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In post 1532, zMuffinMan wrote:-e-on- -he ---a---
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:28 pm

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Is it ok if I guess, actually?

Spoiler:
Beyond The Stratus
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #76) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:42 am

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I forgot about this game

Kaede that was a bad shot in pretty much every scenario

VOTE: Ginngie
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #77) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:45 am

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UNVOTE: Ginngie

We can slow down for a minute actually

I don't understand people calling for an andriod vig, or wh y people think there is a vig after 1 kill
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #78) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:57 am

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In post 1291, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.13


Wisdom [3] - Kokichi Oma, Katsuki, Kaede Akamatsu
Katsuki [1] -
zMuffinMan

Kokichi Oma [2] - mastina, Purrcocet
Kaede Akamatsu [4] - Ankamius, Wisdom, Brian Skies, Human Sequencer
Nancy Drew 39 [1] -
Moment

andriod18 [1] - grapes
grapes [3] - andriod18, Dunnstral, Nosferatu

Not Voting [2]
-
Ginngie
, Nancy Drew 39

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)
In post 1361, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.14


Wisdom [2] - Katsuki,
Ginngie

Katsuki [1] -
zMuffinMan

Kokichi Oma [2] - mastina, Purrcocet
Kaede Akamatsu [4] - Ankamius, Brian Skies, Human Sequencer, Kokichi Oma
Nancy Drew 39 [1] - Moment
grapes [3] - andriod18, Dunnstral, Nosferatu
Moment
[1] - Wisdom
Nosferatu [1] - grapes

Not Voting [2]
- Nancy Drew 39, Kaede Akamatsu

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)
In post 1521, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.15


Wisdom [2] - Katsuki,
Ginngie

Katsuki [1] -
zMuffinMan

Kokichi Oma [2] - mastina, Purrcocet
Kaede Akamatsu [4] - Ankamius, Kokichi Oma, Human Sequencer, Nosferatu
Nancy Drew 39 [1] - Moment
grapes [1] - andriod18
Moment
[1] - Wisdom
Ginngie
[4] - Kaede Akamatsu, Brian Skies, grapes, Dunnstral


Not Voting [1]
- Nancy Drew 39

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)
In post 1615, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.16


Wisdom [2] - Katsuki,
Ginngie

Katsuki [1] -
zMuffinMan

Kokichi Oma [1] - mastina
Kaede Akamatsu [4] - Ankamius, Kokichi Oma, Human Sequencer, Nancy Drew 39
Nancy Drew 39 [1] - Moment
grapes [1] - andriod18
Moment
[4] - Wisdom, Nosferatu, Brian Skies, Purrcocet
Ginngie
[3] - Kaede Akamatsu, grapes, Dunnstral


Not Voting [0]
-

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)
In post 1688, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 1.17


Wisdom [1] -
Ginngie

Kokichi Oma [1] - mastina
Kaede Akamatsu [2] - Human Sequencer, Nancy Drew 39
Nancy Drew 39 [1] -
Moment

grapes [1] - andriod18
Moment
- Wisdom, Nosferatu, Brian Skies, Purrcocet,
zMuffinMan
, Kaede Akamatsu, Ankamius, grapes, Kokichi Oma [LYNCH]
Ginngie
[1] - Dunnstral


Not Voting [1]
- Katsuki

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-06-20 15:00:00)
Andriod seems like a poor shot based on vca, I don't think they're scum or a good shot either. I think you should shoot on the final Moment wagon - Ginngie never even joined it, I highly doubt that's a 9 town wagon especially since it was a counter wagon to someone we know is actually scum. I think nosferatu is a good shot here, I also think Katsuki is faking his role and don't want to wait until day 5 to lynch that, but whatever. Don't let him escape on day 5 if he doesn't reveal as ic, if we enter mylo before then lynch him
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #79) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 1734, Nosferatu wrote:especially since i visited muffin last night
This is a counter claim
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Post Post #1738 (isolation #80) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 1700, Katsuki wrote:I received a PM stating that Ginngie and Ginngie alone visited muffins last night.
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #81) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:10 am

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Nos can you explain more?
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #82) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am

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Wait, I just realized it's Katsuki who claimed the guilty in the first place. hmm
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Post Post #1750 (isolation #83) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:12 am

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There's mechanically scum out of Katsuki/Nos here

Why would Nos claim that as scum, leaving 2 mafia to die?
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #84) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:12 am

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In post 1749, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:VOTE: Ginggie
Don't speedlynch. He's l-2 now, he can hammer with one more. We need this discussion
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #85) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:13 am

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@Nosferatu ?

Can somebody on wagon unvote
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #86) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:14 am

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Like slow down

I think we lynch Ginngie either way
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Post Post #1772 (isolation #87) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:20 am

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Nos, I don't understand what you're doing right now, explain?
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #88) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 1773, Nosferatu wrote:im being deadass

i visited muffins last night
Why did you vote for ginngie?
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #89) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:29 am

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She was just sitting on grapes wagon and didn't move, much like ginngie was sitting on katsuki wagon and didn't move

Somehow a 9 person wagon on town formed to counter a 4 person wagon on scum, while 2 scum saat around doing nothing?
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #90) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:30 am

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This assumes ginngie is scum, which I did
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #91) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:31 am

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In post 1789, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.
what are you talking about?
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Post Post #1795 (isolation #92) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 1792, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1733, Dunnstral wrote:Andriod seems like a poor shot based on vca
how good would you say you are at vca?
I don't know, but I think I've got something here and I outlined my reasoning when grapes asked. Why don't you tell me how good you think the vca is
Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1791, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1789, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.
what are you talking about?
My interactions with Ank yesterday.
Why did you start acting like ank was outted scum, or am I confused about something
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Post Post #1798 (isolation #93) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:35 am

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Game isn't called Minuet's quadruplet
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #94) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:43 am

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Am I the only one who thinks nos is being serious right now?

I feel like Brian and katsuki think this is all some slick prank when it's not
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #95) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 1808, grapes wrote:What's nos' scum motivation to play out this day the way he has been though?
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #96) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 1804, Ankamius wrote:there's another scum on the wagon in heavily scum reading
This shouldn't be a secret
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #97) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:47 am

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I believe mastina now, we have a day 3 ic with 3 scum and 3 main character's in minuet's TRIO

Oh, there's a day 5 ic too, that's totally a legit claim.
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #98) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:51 am

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In post 1817, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1750, Dunnstral wrote:There's mechanically scum out of Katsuki/Nos here

Why would Nos claim that as scum, leaving 2 mafia to die?
Nah, katsuki fakeclaims as town
so why are we rushing into a lynch before everyone can post?
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #99) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:53 am

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In post 1702, Ginngie wrote:That makes a lot of sense since I visited mastina cupcake
Why are you so laid back about this? Why are you not in-thread? Why are you not voting Katsuki and making a bigger deal out of this? It looks like you're rolling over here
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #100) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 1824, Purrcocet wrote:
Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1702, Ginngie wrote:That makes a lot of sense since I visited mastina cupcake
Why are you so laid back about this? Why are you not in-thread? Why are you not voting Katsuki and making a bigger deal out of this? It looks like you're rolling over here
u might as well just claim scum with him
I'm not though
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Post Post #1829 (isolation #101) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:57 am

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Why don't you tell me about your andriod read purr
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Post Post #1831 (isolation #102) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:59 am

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Brian reads as fake right now with his reads
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #103) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:03 pm

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In post 1836, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 1829, Dunnstral wrote:Why don't you tell me about your andriod read purr


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i feel like if they were town they would be here more than they are HERE

does that make sense
Their activity is consistent with other games

So sorry, but that's just wrong... is that it?
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #104) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:12 pm

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In post 1844, Purrcocet wrote:
Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1836, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 1829, Dunnstral wrote:Why don't you tell me about your andriod read purr


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i feel like if they were town they would be here more than they are HERE

does that make sense
Their activity is consistent with other games

So sorry, but that's just wrong... is that it?
the soft defense is killing me
it's true though, so
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Post Post #1890 (isolation #105) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:20 pm

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In post 1884, Ginngie wrote:I'm going to say something

and I need to know you'll respond as quickly as you can

Can you promise me this
Need you to agree to this katsuki
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #106) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:48 pm

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We're waiting for katsuki and ginngie to do whatever right now

Katsuki wants the day phase to be over but then extends it by being a brat
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #107) » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:55 am

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In post 2041, FakeGod wrote:
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Nancy Drew 39, who is
Walking by the sea
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Main Character
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Image
In post 2042, FakeGod wrote:
VoteCount 3.0


Not Voting [13]
- andriod18, Nancy Drew 39, Katsuki, Kaede Akamatsu, Purrcocet, Dunnstral, Brian Skies, Ankamius, mastina, Human Sequencer, Kokichi Oma, Nosferatu, Wisdom

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-07-03 15:00:00)
VOTE: Mastina


See you guys day 4
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Post Post #2376 (isolation #108) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:03 pm

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I'm a vanilla cop

If you want to confirm my role for some reason, don't let the other guys claim
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Post Post #2377 (isolation #109) » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:07 pm

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n1 forgot to submit, n2 katsuki not vanilla, n3 wisdom vanilla, nothing that isn't claimed already
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #110) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:17 am

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VOTE: Mastina
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #111) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:17 am

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Actually

VOTE: Wisdom

This is tomorrows lynchanyway
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #112) » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:56 am

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I was town

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