SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE

[PenguinPower]

It's important that you all rate me highly. Both for my self-esteem, and for town.

[PenguinPower]

Good tidings, Consul of the Duck Nation.

[PenguinPower]

I just want to lynch someone and I can't

Yes. This.

[PenguinPower]

OK, you can be town for now.

My biggest worry at the moment is that I'm townreading people who are just engaging with me, but I like your answers so far.

10) Taly

10)

10)

9)

8)

7) Punreader

(most confident read)

:

do not see why scum would claim BP, a situational utility, and question a townread on them all within the first few pages of the game.

6) the worst:

asking questions that come to conclusions, forcing content to be spewed, most involved so far.

6) MariaR:

Thinking before doing, nonchalant about perceptions regarding themselves it seems.

5) Shoshin:

Really good posting 112, provides reasoning for thoughts when needed, and voices different opinions. 115

5) Fire Assassain

(volatile read)

:

125

4) Chara:

I want to engage with them more before I elaborate or think more critically here.

4) Espeonage

(volatile read)

:

Sensible posting, some things I agreed with. Want to see more.

3) DeasVail:

Need to see more, I want them to make stances.

2) Screen:

Entrance can be either town or scum.

1)

0)

0)

0)

{TehBrawlGuy, ActionDan, Dunnstral, ReubenWasFine, TwoInAMillion, Vaxkiller, PenguinPower} = ?

Nico

would get a 1, but it's mostly policy and that isn't viable right now.

You should give me an 8? I'm actually a bit concerned about "punreader" Reassessing in the morning.

[PenguinPower]

Can we do some type of voting system? I'm having a difficult time parsing where people really are without some sort of vote.

[PenguinPower]

I mean, I get why people scum read me given my scum meta, but I hate D1 to being with and there being no voting mechanism is fairly offputting.

[PenguinPower]

tbf, even with my role's modification I'm probably a negative utility at this point.

[PenguinPower]

I think Dan so far has posted inconclusively and isn't actively oriented in the game, and I think that's a sign of scum.

PenguinPower has not contributed and they're one of the least notable people in the game so far. I think that could also be scum.

Get the inactivity read, but why leave out Pine, NicoRobin, Punreader, ReubenWasFine, Dunnstral...

Find it interesting these weren't among your stated lowest scores, particularly Nico and Reuben.

[PenguinPower]

what makes you say that so confidently?

I agree with the duck.

[PenguinPower]

you agree that Taly isn't towny, Penguin?

I agree that Taly isn't as decidedly town as you stated.

I have questions I would like answered first, and I would like for you to explain why you think he is because I don't see it in your ISO.

[PenguinPower]

questions you'd like answered first? meaning one question?
i'm waiting for Taly to return before i answer.

Um...pretty clear what I mean. What was the point of this beyond delaying your answer?

[PenguinPower]

This reads like an excuse.

Nobody's stopping you from voting right now, faux votes are legal.

And have no impact, so are worthless.

Is it weird to have a confident read on me?

An unsubstantiated townread...yeah? P sure you just asked for rationale above, so why ask me about it?

[PenguinPower]

I'm currently one of the most vocal people in this game

The fact that my alignment or the conclusion of my alignment being questionable makes me feel a little uneasy.

I think I'd rather be scumread than be neutral/null. At least with a scumread, there's not this passive

"muddy the waters"

thinking on my slot.

There's more to work with when someone has an opinion or defined read on you.

I just think scum looks at me and thinks

"hmmm, this is an easy person to cast uncertainty on"

We're 12 pages in with a lot of low content slots (myself included). The fact that you are vocal means nothing in terms of alignment right.

Oh, previous thing I should have asked...why is Punread a strong townread?

[PenguinPower]

Then why are you even bringing up votes? If you think there's no point, you're not adding to the discussion by saying "I want this, but we can't have this"

And if you think votes are worthless, I'm voting you, and is it not catching your attention?

I said I wanted a system to vote, not the standard voting system. I don't really care that you have voted me since it means naught.

VOTE: Taly

Because I'm looking to see if you're trying to genuinely figure out my alignment, or trying to make a townread on me seem unusual or unwarranted.

Then wait for the original person asked to answer before jumping in.

1) I still think their claim would potentially come more from town.

Not sure I agree, and, as I said originally, I find it odd to without more information.

2) Curious about everyone else questioning the claim.

Why is that town and not scum? Both alignments can do that.

3) When he's present, he engages with multiple people at once, drawing focus onto himself.

All 5 posts...totally drawing focus.

4) Questions reads on him and gives valid counterstances that help improve the perception of another player.

This happened where?

[PenguinPower]

I definitely see resisting the pseudolynch as a ProScum play - PP and Taly both get shade for this.

Clarify the "psuedolynch" for me. Not sure what you are referring to.

[PenguinPower]

Espeonage is high rating for me right now.

Taly needs to chill for a bit.

[PenguinPower]

Espeonage is high rating for me right now.

Taly needs to chill for a bit.

[PenguinPower]

Espeonage is high rating for me right now.

Taly needs to chill for a bit.

did you have anything to say to me?

No.

I'm about ready to just claim...thinking a bit more, but I think it would best that I do.

[PenguinPower]

Sum them up for me, cuz I'm not invested enough to look back through them today.

If you can wait until tomorrow, I would have time to.

[PenguinPower]

I've decided that I am enough of a negatively utility at this point that I'm going to claim.

I'm Shadoweh. Conditional Ascetic Townie with the passive that no actions from someone ranked lower than me can affect me, including night kills. This is why I suspected Punreader's BP claim.

Since I'm likely to be ranked low...claiming seemed to be beneficial.

[PenguinPower]

also, by claiming the exact parameters of your BP, it's now useless.
i don't really get why you did except to not be ranked the lowest.

Because my Bp is based on my positive ranking, which is not likely at this point. Ascetics are almost always anti-town (which I claimed earlier), so I thought I would claim.

Explain the scum reasoning for doing what I have done.

[PenguinPower]

With the understanding that I've given that up, try something else for you explanation.

[PenguinPower]

Taly: PP's claim is functionally a counterclaim to Punreader. That's why they're both getting 0s from me. Neither of them are strong utility to Town, and they're especially not useful post-claim.

I'm happy to eliminate them now.

Kinda what I implied earlier, and my role is mostly anti-town at this point. I'm good with this.

[PenguinPower]

This concerns me a bit though:

At least one of the numbers I have (i.e. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0) has a modified value in its weight. It could count for nothing, it could count for half, it could count for double, it could count for triple, I'm not sure if I should claim what value it holds but what I am getting at here is that my ability to influence popularity is not the standard and has at least one property which is modified in at least one way.

[PenguinPower]

Quoted for truth

[PenguinPower]

You have a lot of posts...point it out pls.

p-edit

@Taly

[PenguinPower]

Try not spoilering if you want me to respond.

- Why would there be two town roles with an immunity to the night kill, especially if mine was contingent upon high, normal, ranking (making me completely immune to all night actions, including kills) while Puns was dependent on the same; but, has some mysterious voting contingency that they don't want to share. I don't know, but it made me question whether we were of the same alignment.

- Um, no. See above. Ascetic is usually antitown; mine being based on rating could swing either way. If I'm lowly rated and suspected, then I can be cleared (though lose the nk immunity), or removed altogether getting a suspect slot out of the way. What happens if I ended up highly rated and investigated down the road?

- See above. I wanted to reassess based on play, but Pun is pushing me for basically my lighthearted meta, which I don't think Pun would do normally, so...I don't really want to.

[PenguinPower]

Quoted for truth

quit fucking trying

So mean.

[PenguinPower]

Town for today.

[PenguinPower]

Why not?

[PenguinPower]

I'll probably bump her up a bit then. Why is Nahdia town for suggesting early end but Maria scum for agreeing with it?

You should probably stop treating this day phase as a typical mafia game.

[PenguinPower]

Still comfortable nuking both PP and PR

This.

[PenguinPower]

If it results in nuking Pun I’m happy.

[PenguinPower]

PP can you talk to me about your attitude towards d1 in general, across all mafia games? L

I hate it. I hate it even more when there is a hidden vote mechanic and no direct lynching.

[PenguinPower]

If it results in nuking Pun I’m happy.

You're that certain he's scum?

I'm certain that he half claimed, then admitted to lying about his claim, then added a N1 modifier after being asked to vig me.

Seems town to me.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: end day

[PenguinPower]

Additionally, the addition of the rating mechanic actually gives something better than traditional wagons/voting.

Players can create rankings lists, should they so choose, which give data points on multiple players rather than just one.

If rankings lists were compulsory and open I might agree with you. They aren't, so the D1 mechanic is not anywhere close to being better than the traditional wagons/voting.

The fact that the mod is tracking meaningless votes is...meaningless.

[PenguinPower]

PP, can you take less time minimizing the progression of this game so far and respond to any of the townreads on Pun and suspicion on you?

No. Progression of this game will start on D2. I may or may not be there.

And Pun's read on you wasn't specifically meta, I reread and he made a light associative argument with you in 552. I don't know how much water that holds, but you have this trend in your gameplay so far where you disregard an attempt to absolve curiosity and discussion around you.

Looks like mostly meta to me. Where's the "lights associative?"

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: Rankings

1. TehBrawlGuy - 9
2. Taly - 0
3. Punreader - 0
4. MariaR - 10
5. DeasVail - 8
6. Espeonage - 7
7. Dunnstral - 10
8. Nahdia - 3
9. the worst - 6
10. Pine - 2
11. Shoshin - 4
12. Fire Assassin - 4
13. Lovebird - 5
14. Chara - 0
15. Srceenplay - 5
16. Vaxkiller - 6
17. PenguinPower - 10
18. NicoRobin - 1

[PenguinPower]

Not a lot of time today due to work. Taly/Worst/Chara are likely town and you should be wary of people who voted me highly (except me, because I can't not rate me highly).

VOTE: Fire

p-edit

It was a fairly condescending comment, duck.

[PenguinPower]

But PP's rankings don't look like the rankings of a townie, so I'm open to lynching there (as I've indicated).

Do you think Fire's look like the rankings of a townie?

[PenguinPower]

Not Voting (8): TehBrawlGuy, Punreader,

MariaR/Chara

, Espeonage, Nahdia, Srceenplay, Vaxkiller

Curious.

[PenguinPower]

And you decided that wasn't the first thing you should say...why?

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

I said I had a result in my first post and wanted to wait.
Did you read?

To be more specific...why didn't you say you had a cop guilty in your first post?

[PenguinPower]

Why did you vote me when I said I had a result and start this bad wagon on me?

Because I didn't like your rankings list.

Now answer me. Thx.

[PenguinPower]

Oh god. The wall.

[PenguinPower]

The PP wagon? Could you point out where that was?

[PenguinPower]

Um...votes on D1 meant shit (as I am still here!). 1 vote isn't a wagon regardless of those who "intend" to vote (since intending to vote means shit, except when bolded and they are at L-1 <- gotta be true to my newbies)

Try again.

Shoshin is probs town.

From your rankings list, you think me and Taly are scum together. I'd like to hear more about that, especially the D1 motivation.

[PenguinPower]

I luv you duck.

[PenguinPower]

Sorry, I read the top secret message.

[PenguinPower]

Um...votes on D1 meant shit (as I am still here!). 1 vote isn't a wagon regardless of those who "intend" to vote (since intending to vote means shit, except when bolded and they are at L-1 <- gotta be true to my newbies)

Try again.

Shoshin is probs town.

From your rankings list, you think me and Taly are scum together. I'd like to hear more about that, especially the D1 motivation.

Realizing this is on a new page, most of my comments above were directed @TBG.

[PenguinPower]

I have to say, the bolding of player names is helpful. Thx.

[PenguinPower]

Also, didn't TBG say that he put me a low number solely because he didn't think I'd need numbers? I see this coming from town more often?

Why do you see this as coming from town? I'm not sure I understand the mindset behind that.

[PenguinPower]

Go read the not shitty sheets version, which should spell it out more clearly.

The what?

I only see one rankings list.

[PenguinPower]

Fair. I just don't get not ranking your actual rankings and letting it fall where it may. There's more info in true rankings than trying to manipulate.

That said, I'm aware that scum can lie about their rankings.

p-edit

You are a duck_wizard.

[PenguinPower]

oh nvm ep nuked it for being an outside link
I'll go generate a less shitty plaintext version.

Thanks to EP then...

[PenguinPower]

Ask the mod. I'm just a player here.

[PenguinPower]

jesus...I was about to be a sarcastic ass and the worst ended up being awesome.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Espeonage

I'm going to bed.

[PenguinPower]

Role PM is green tho.

And since I'm not ranked highly...not that powerful.

[PenguinPower]

also, PP wins an award for 0ing the most universal 10s and high scores, while high scoring the most low scores. I thought that was interesting

I ranked you on how much I liked you D1. I accept my award.

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

My brain hurts too much to process everything right now.

[PenguinPower]

PP, what is difficult for you to digest about this entire situation?

I didn't say it was difficult (though interestingly enough you did in this very post) to digest. I said my brain hurt too much to process. Much like it does tonight. I will need to read through without a glass of wine in hand

I can go pull pull more specific thins I said on D1 but yeah.

If you're basing your read on me from D1, you need to reassess (unless it's the claim alone).

[PenguinPower]

I mean, I've already explained. But, if you think that my D1 is equivalent to today then vote away.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: MariaR

[PenguinPower]

I wonder if a vote on Maria means one for Chara, if so...

Pretty simple to test out.

Why aren't you voting me?

[PenguinPower]

I did it before I read your post.

UNVOTE:

Not like that changes much, but I also don't see why no one else would have thought of it...

[PenguinPower]

Hmm, this throws me off. PP's one of my top suspects as well.

Then why aren't you voting me?

[PenguinPower]

So much shade being thrown at me with so little votes.

Makes me think pun is actually town...

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Shoshin

[PenguinPower]

Shoshin needs to actually be productive and state reasons but they could just be lazy I'll wait a little plus I can't vote em if Chara hard nopes me

Purely meta-based, but I don't think town!Shoshin is this lazy.

[PenguinPower]

PP is my most volatile read at the moment.

Two things.

1.) How are you POE'ing anything without a scumflip?

2.) Wtf haven't you voted me yet?

[PenguinPower]

I had a town-case on Shoshin earlier, but I feel like they've more or less "gently pushed" content from people rather than actually making their own or assessing what's present. I could vote there.

I'll eat a sock if Shoshin is town here. They are operating against multiple games of town meta.

[PenguinPower]

Well...it's not LyLo so not going to make a case. But, in the few games in their ego their overall effort in figuring out the game and pushing their scum reads is night and day different. They are the epitome of try hard as town.

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: Long post

quote="In post 1418, Taly"]

PP is my most volatile read at the moment.

Two things.

1.) How are you POE'ing anything without a scumflip?

2.) Wtf haven't you voted me yet?

1)

I don't need a scumflip to PoE. There's 6+ claims in the thread, at least 4 wagons this dayphase - almost all I've been on, and several result claims, most of which are verifiable. This isn't even mentioning how much content I've near-forced people to spew in the thread, alongside the rankings potentially giving info. down the road.

Coupled with me having reversals in several of my reads in this game; documenting and narrowing down the playerlist in terms of scum/lynch material is the only viable and optimal approach for me to play rn.

Plus, if I'm wrong with anything, it'll be easier to figure out where I'm wrong when I do things this way.

2)

Because I don't want to fall into tunneling, and you've posted things that make me - even just a little - second-guess my read. Plus, there's other players that have skid by in the game.

Also, I don't understand your goal of dying this game... Why do you expect my vote?

VOTE: Nahdia

Are you going to work with me? :/[/quote]

1.) I think we fundamentally differ here, so I'll leave it alone.

2.) I'm not trying to die. I'm saying you are spending so much time casting shade at me, but not voting me, that I don't get it. Even if you are are slightly waffling, you obviously think I am best bet for scum so far so I don't understand why you aren't placing a vote. This entire game has been relatively low in actual wagons and votes and it's a bit annoying.

[PenguinPower]

This entire game has been relatively low in actual wagons and votes and it's a bit annoying.

It's almost like we couldn't vote day 1 or something

I already expressed my frustration with that. I'm talking about D2.

Keep up the snark.

[PenguinPower]

Maybe I should say it like:

It's almost like I said that already and am talking about the current day or something...

Did that help with your comprehension?

[PenguinPower]

So you won't make a case against your scumread but you're also frustrated that nobody is voting

There's a nice Nahdia wagon forming

I don't make cases outside of LyLo.

2 votes is not a wagon.

[PenguinPower]

My frustration with lack of actual substance has nothing to do with cases, so I will continue to wine.

Nahdia should be replaced at this point it seems.

[PenguinPower]

I could lynch PP at this point.

Then vote me...

jfc.

[PenguinPower]

Fun fact - average # of players not voting across all vote counts (including the Fire "guilty") - 9.

8 to achieve a majority.

Do stuff.

[PenguinPower]

I like Maria.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Nahdia

[PenguinPower]

I'm so happy right now. Thank you all.

[PenguinPower]

Everyone else did, so you might as well.

[PenguinPower]

Behaviors is the only thing that's going to convince me of alignments.

Absent that not working well for you, as town you have at least (from what I can see) pushed your reads pretty hard with lots of reasoning (good or bad) behind it. You aren't doing that here.

[PenguinPower]

That's a really simplistic way to look at my play. How much certainty I have depends on the game and the way it's going.

Simplistic - maybe. But, seems to be a strong correlation, and I'm happy with that. I don't see a reason why I need to focus more than that based on your play.

Sadly, you most likely won't be lynched today.

[PenguinPower]

I dunno about Nahdia. Maybe. The way she defended PP on D1 strongly indicates that scum Nahdia = scum PP.

Then why flip me first instead of Nahdia?

[PenguinPower]

Is his lynch really that easy? Who suspects him enough to vote?

You should probably catch up on the game...

[PenguinPower]

Because you're scummier than Nahdia, and your association to Nahdia has nothing to do with that.

Why am I? I'm waiting for your wall.

But, if you think that Nahdia is scum and confirms me being scum, it doesn't make sense for you not to vote Nahdia. You didn't say that the inverse means the same, so it leads me to believe you don't really mean what you say.

I've caught up. There's plenty of discussion about other lynches, so I don't think you're an "easy" lynch by any means. There's been resistance to it, even if that resistance hasn't always been directly defensive of you.

I'm the leading wagon at L-2 that happened in less than 24 hours. I'm a hard lynch?

The rest of your posts are like...bad.

See...this is why I like wagons!

[PenguinPower]

I'm not really worried about your opinion or threats.

Why not answer my question or respond to my statements?

I'm headed to bed, so I'll check in tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

You have my claim, and based on the worst's ranking my role is no better than a VT at this point, so feel free to.

Lynch Shoshin tomorrow though.

[PenguinPower]

I'm always confused by this, how is PP an "easy lynch" if it's taken over a week to get him to L-2?

Like, what is a hard lynch in people's books, then?

It hasn't taken a week. It took like less than 48 hours once the "guilty" crap settled down.

Maybe read the game.

[PenguinPower]

Nope, because you still never cased him. You dying doesn't mean I magically follow your reads, they get tossed in the trash with you where you guys belong

gtfo with your hypocritical shit.

kthx.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Shoshin

Flashwagon Shoshin or hammer me. What a bad case.

[PenguinPower]

1) His posting on D1 is really shitty. He kinda lurks and complains about how he can't get reads and how his role is negative utility. Nothing town in his posting and he admits it when pushed for this very reason.

Hi. This is typical for me as town...less so as scum (although as I previously pointed out, it is in Large Themes - of which I have always been scum)

2) He votes Taly after it's already pretty obvious that Taly's town and that Taly is sort of leading the town. There's a pretty clear scum agenda to the push on Taly - stop Taly from unifying the town - but why push Taly if he's town? It's just a very bizarre push, one that I can't make sense of. And he keeps pushing Taly throughout the game (see below).

As previously stated, votes on D1 meant shit. I said that right before voting. How was a pushing anything?

3) His degree of certainty that Pun was scum on D1 simply didn't square with the game. Like, PP kept saying that he had no problems dying or getting ranked 0 as long as we killed Pun too because that's how certain he was that Pun was scum. It's absurd because no townie would have been that confident about Pun. As a secondary matter, PP's self-destructive appeal is the sort of thing that almost always comes from scum, almost always. Townies just don't do that sort of thing, whereas scum often do it as a way to manipulate townies into thinking the player doesn't care about self-preservation even though that's actually their #1 priority.

Don't think you would understand this, but I know Punreader from prior games, and I know what they were trying to do with their case on me. I am a bit less certain now, but I was willing D1 to go down with them based on that. I honestly don't care about self-preservation, especially now. As usual, your "almost always" comments are wrong.

4) PP's rankings are shit and his entire approach to scumhunting doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. He categorically scumhunts the people who are townreading him in 970 - "I'm not town enough to be read as town so the scum are probably among the people townreading me" - and that just doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. It's actually a very scum-aligned thought process because the scum would KNOW that anyone who townreads them is wrong. Also, what happened to the scumread on Pun? He's dropped any semblance of a push on Pun.

As previously mentioned, my rankings were based on how much I liked you D1. Nothing else. I'm not pushing Pun because Pun is not getting lynched today no matter what given night actions. Wow.

5) He continues casting subtle shade at Taly by questioning why Taly isn't voting him. Weird question from a town perspective. Townies are usually suspicious of people who vote them, not suspicious of people who don't. The question implies yet again that he thinks people shouldn't be townreading him, which is a thought process that makes more sense from a scum perspective who knows players shouldn't be townreading him.

Yeah...because Taly has a playstyle I'm not accustom too...he has been strongly implying that I was scum but never voted. I don't really like that.

6) He says I'm town all game until I stopped posting. Then he says I'm scum and votes me. What changed? I became a viable mislynch. The real problem with PP's vote is that he tries to justify it by reference to my town meta in 1352, when actually the only reason to vote me is just that I stopped posting because I was disengaged (not AI for me - I've been prodded in my town games on THIS site, including a game that PP read, yet haven't been prodded yet in this one).

When did I say you were town? Much less "all game."

The entire way PP's playing is very manipulative, it doesn't cohere with a townie's mindset, and his votes are opportunistic, determined by the sway of collective opinion. There's nothing townie anywhere to be found in his posting. Yes, it's an easy lynch, because he's probably scum.

Lot's of buzzwords...not sure how I'm manipulative, it cohere's with my townie mindset, which votes are opportunistic? Scum usually aren't an easy lynch given their partners know they are scum.

Very bad case. Doesn't align with town!Shoshin who would give reasoning like this without being prompted.

[PenguinPower]

D1 votes mean shit.

I missed today's vote, cuz you were voting with me on Fire like 10 minutes later. Sorry for that.

[PenguinPower]

When did I say you were town? Much less "all game."

You said I was town in 1002. Why'd that change?

Ah. We were amidst the guilty discussion and you made a wall post...and I was a bit drunk at the time.

You haven't come close to continuing that since.

[PenguinPower]

PP

, why did you say/think that

Me/Chara/Tw

were town? What ARE your townreads atm?

I wanted to see what it elicited, and I do think that those that rated me highly are suspect. Tbf, I don't have strong town reads right now, especially given this is my first game with a lot of you.

Chara is probably my strongest tr just based on previous games. But, it's nothing that I won't re-eval later. I am more "these are the people I want gone" then people I townread.

Pun knows better, so is a scum read. Shoshin is a complete meta scum read. Deas is probably my strongest "gameplay" scum read.

[PenguinPower]

Can yuo explain a bit more in depth on the DV "gameplay" scumread?

Mostly that his voting doesn't align at all with his rankings, or his ranking with his statements on players, especially given the casualness associated.

And where's your thoughts on Nahdia?

Don't like that she rated me highly, said she made her stance on me clear D1, and then disappeared. I don't usually care for people who town read me when I shouldn't be.

[PenguinPower]

When did I say you were town? Much less "all game."

You said I was town in 1002. Why'd that change?

Ah. We were amidst the guilty discussion and you made a wall post...and I was a bit drunk at the time.

You haven't come close to continuing that since.

That wall post said the exact same thing that my case said.

So, first time you read it, you thought it was town, but now you're reading the same exact analysis and think it's scummy?

What? No. I didn't even read it. I was going off the fact that you actually made one. I don't usually read walls.

[PenguinPower]

I don't usually care for people who town read me when I shouldn't be.

Can you link representative games of your town play that show this?

You can easily find them if you actually care.

[PenguinPower]

You picked a "random game" where there were three different games within the game, and happens to be the only game where I didn't bus a scum at the advice of my partner during Game 2.

Seems random enough. I did win that one. Yay.

Should probably look back to 2017/2016 if you actually care. I play mostly on alts now.

[PenguinPower]

Don't really care to. As I said, my actual town games will reflect. Quite honestly, I shouldn't even come even close to LyLo, anyway so.... meh.

I do really think you need to go though.

Final post for today. Lynch in Shoshin or Deas (or Pun if that will actually happen - which it shouldn't and won't).

Or lynch me.

[PenguinPower]

If I'm town, who is scum?

[PenguinPower]

i'm inclined to believe this because i understand the feeling. can you link a game, though? according to Shoshin, the onus is on you for doing so.

Don't really care for Shoshin, but since you asked. Most recent one here.

Not sure why Shoshin chose a gimmick game instead of a more recent actual game. Side note: I was town in that game.

[PenguinPower]

I am just going to say, I've been playing less than a week and it feels like a month, and the Penguin lynch does not feel easy with no resistance.

Definitely not easy anymore. Huh.

PP is ascetic to anyone below him in rankings

Which is no one, so I am basically VT.

[PenguinPower]

I retract my previous statement about a Shoshin-only lynch. I could also lynch ManWithNoName today.

[PenguinPower]

pedit: haha. but seriously, i'd vote Penguin before a no lynch happened.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah...that was a bad post.

[PenguinPower]

Nope.

[PenguinPower]

:dab:

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That was for you, EP.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Penguin

?

Unnecessary.

[PenguinPower]

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