Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Would you all believe me if I said I was not a main character or scum this time?

VOTE: Ank

this just became so much easier. don't even need to include spiffeh's name anymore

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Lol, that’s great but if you have any advice for me in future games, how to stop sucking, that would be much appreciated.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Alright, I see some people are getting rowdy so I'll lay down some terms for me starting us off: I want everyone to have meaningful contribution before votes go flying. Reasonable?

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

[TehBrawlGuy]

it is page 7 and I don't see much too solve at the moment. So I don't really have an issue with it

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: Nancy
Can we vote now? Might as well put my vote back where it was

VOTE: sakura

[TehBrawlGuy]

Right then, I've finally got a chance to sit down and take a look through things. If anyone else is around, feel free to

let me know if you want my thoughts on something

or if there's something in specific you think I should pay attention to.

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: nosferatu

[TehBrawlGuy]

Pretty jumpy since all that was asked was that you meaningfully contribute to the thread like a normal person

As opposed to whom?

This is clearly not a normal playerlist, especially since we have a player that only posts in images.

[TehBrawlGuy]

prod mdodge

[TehBrawlGuy]

mdodge

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

And while I'm on the subject of voicing perhaps somewhat far-fetched concerns, I think MariaR may have been trying (is still trying to?) pocket Nancy Drew. I first noticed it upon my first readthrough of the thread where it seemed like much of what Maria was saying was engaging with Nancy. When I put it like that it doesn't sound so bad - especially as Ms. Drew is quite the content producer - but I think that reviewing Maria's ISO may help illustrate my point for anyone interested.

To give a few quotes to illustrate my point:

I have nancy as town
my dunnstral read

and that's it.

Who else are you looking at nancy

I believe it was these two quotes that first caused me to realize this while reading through. Something about the singularity of the read as well as the question made it look to me like Maria had the goal of tying to get Nancy to strongly townread her; anyone who played in or has read Minuet's Trio (or, I assume, other games with Nancy) should realize that it's not much of a difficult task.

I decided not to bring this up initially in order to observe if the pattern of behavior would continue, and I think that it did with this quote:

Nancy Drew is pretty transparent town like it almost hurts
Wouldn't you agree @MeowriaR

I sure would.

The lack of response to anything between this post and the last post in Maria's ISO "pings" me in a way that I find hard to describe. Perhaps that goes back to what I was thinking about earlier.


Any thoughts?

[TehBrawlGuy]

All caught up

VOTE: Dunnstral

I think this is very worthy of a wagon

[TehBrawlGuy]

Do you have any reads to share?

Yes

Is there a reason you're not explaining them?

[TehBrawlGuy]

I didn't mind the fact that he wasn't starting the voting, I have a problem with how he devoted a whole long post to how pro-town it was to make sure everyone contributed before starting the real Day and in the meantime doing nothing himself to actually contribute

@TehBrawlGuy my reason for voting Dunn

[TehBrawlGuy]

I was trying to buddy Nancy yes. What's your point?

Well, my point was that that would make you scum.

[TehBrawlGuy]

tbf I'm buddying myself pretty hard

[TehBrawlGuy]

For the record, I'm coming more around to town Dunnstral and back around to scum Spiffeh.

[TehBrawlGuy]

that is horrifying

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Would you eat an orange if you were offered one from an owner of a shady van?

How about if it was an ice cream truck?

[TehBrawlGuy]

you asked two questions, i think only the first one was free...

[TehBrawlGuy]

Okay maybe just 10 words, i realized 40 words might be too hard for someone that can only post images.

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Less Than One Percent Words

THAT'S 5 WORDS YOU LIED TO ME!

[TehBrawlGuy]

Damn, the entire scumteam is piling on Mylo according to MariaR?

Can you stop being a bitch?

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE:

[TehBrawlGuy]

personally i think TBG should have had the two avatars facing each other rather than back to back...

[TehBrawlGuy]

uhhhhhh i dont see a reason to purrsue that avenue atm

well tbg made a post saying you and matt are scum, then votes matt, but now you want to lynch matt, so im wondering if this read changes your perspective of tbg's alignment.

VOTE: matt

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Well, as long as TBG, Katsuki, are still "playing" the game like they are

[TehBrawlGuy]

Oh, I kind of skipped over the Maria discussion. Having read back through the game during the night, I didn't think that scum Maria would talk about the Mylo wagon the way she did. I'd imagine that scum, seeing their partner go down, would almost always choose to try to gain some kind of credit from it rather than make a defense that would certainly be futile. Some of these quotes should show what I'm referring to:

Spoiler:

Sakura I still have as a scumlean but not as hard as before because I feel like she's voting anything that walks.

yeah that's what i'm doing, kinda.
Dunno why that lowers your scumlean tho.

I don't remember you being as reckless as scum.

Also the mylongninja wagon is bad it's a 3 person lurker that will give no info regardless of the flip.

Will vote Mylo if it reaches 16 hours or less and then when that flips town Brain Muffin and Dunn all go in the grinder

If you explain yours I'll happily do the same. Even though I've done that about twice already (besides muffin)
Pedit: Mylo is the easy lurker lynch that scum are going to grab onto for a free mislynch. Nothing Mylo has done looks that towny or scummy to me but the way votes are happening it's telling all in itself.

Like I kid you not i'd bet money scum prob in there head be like "oh shit partner getting wagoned let's wagon mylo" I don't see Mylo flipping scum although it is a great info lynch to see where everyone makes an excuse to scumread next so I don't mind them dying per say
Pedit: I already explain mine kind of to friend!
Pedit2: Never said that

The fact wagons have tried to get started and then lead back to Mylo is telling in itself that we were wagoning scum most likely at one point and then it just went back to Mylo but hey go nuts and wagon town I'll hear all your excuses D2

In contrast to scum betraying their knowledge of everyone's alignment, I feel like comments such as these betray a

lack

of informedness.

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

[TehBrawlGuy]

Eventhough he’s posting in pictures, they’re full of content.

no theyre not

what, because he posts avatars every now and then he's posting content?

[TehBrawlGuy]

It's hard to tell, but I think he wants us to kill Matt.

[TehBrawlGuy]

alright, ill ask you something then

when are you going to stop pretending you have a post restriction and start justifying any of your reads?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Even when playing pictomafia, don't think there was anyone who's posting was as useless as tbg's

Spoiler:

I'm not claiming ever this day so if town want to go ahead and lynch me you guys deserve to lose.

I don't mind game throwing.

Not with this punk ass bitch who wants to spend the entire game trying to put words in my mouth while calling me scum and wonder why I refuse to play mafia with him.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Even when playing pictomafia, don't think there was anyone who's posting was as useless as tbg's

I mean, you're one to talk

I'm waiting for you to die before I start actively participating in this thread.

[TehBrawlGuy]

ok guys

i actually have a real guilty on TBG and im totally not fake-claiming

honest... really...

i would definitely not lie about this sort of thing for shits and giggles and i honestly super duper really have a guilty on him

really...

no jokes...

Vote: TehBrawlGuy

please believe me and lynch immediately

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: TBG

[TehBrawlGuy]

I'm not claiming ever this day so if town want to go ahead and lynch me you guys deserve to lose.

I don't mind game throwing.

Not with this punk ass bitch who wants to spend the entire game trying to put words in my mouth while calling me scum and wonder why I refuse to play mafia with him.

Even when playing pictomafia, don't think there was anyone who's posting was as useless as tbg's

I mean, you're one to talk

I'm waiting for you to die before I start actively participating in this thread.

[TehBrawlGuy]

like, both nancy and tbg are town and those pushes are garbage
While he fails to say anything at all about matt

ok so p sure this post confirms that nancy and tbg are the remaining scum

thanks wisdom

[TehBrawlGuy]

Man, what killjoys y'all are. I post several times wanting people to ask me questions, get nothing but memes in return. When I do post actually relevant shit, nobody interacts with it, and now we've entered the "well gosh it's so difficult to read TBG through the images, better naked vote him on a fake guilty!" stage. No shit, dudes, if none of you play along or talk to me, of course the joke is gonna stagnate and I'll be hard to sort.

All the meanwhile, Matt had less content than I did until today, and Katsuki still has less content. Katsuki is even totally OK with throwing the game and refusing to participate because they have some sort of grudge against Dunn, and they'd rather be super edgy about it in thread rather than just leaving. Seriously, if you have a problem with a player in the list,

don't sign up or /out

. It's astonishing to me that they've been here 8 years and somehow haven't learned that yet. I guess it's cool, though, because they're not posting pictures from Google Images.

VOTE: Katsuki. Count this as half a policy lynch, and half a serious inquiry as to them being Scum. I've had mostly TRs over the game, so it makes sense to me that one of the hard to sort players is in the scumpool, and I find it super weird that nobody else has been pursuing this line. My Matt scumread has also weakened a lot with his recent posting, and I'm not sure where he'll settle once it stabilizes.

[TehBrawlGuy]

ah, yes, the people not interacting with the guy who does nothing but post pictures with an obviously fake post restriction are the problem. right

I mean, it obviously goes both ways. The fact that people weren't really interacting with the guy posting pictures was a problem, regardless of who you want to attribute that to. That's not purely the fault of either party. It's just annoying to me that the thread just wants to throw their hands up and be like "woe is us, tbg is unsortable", because then it forces me to choose between stopping the gimmick I was having a lot of fun with or fucking up the game, and I'm not enough of an asshole to do the second one. I would have been interested to see how it worked out and been happier dropping the shtick if the thread was willing to put in a good faith effort instead of sitting on their hands, y'know?

anyway enough about me, katsuki needs rope badly. thread, give me your thoughts on them

[TehBrawlGuy]

you have to realise that when you purposefully obfuscate your posting that it shouldn't be annoying to YOU when the rest of the town accepts your intentions and ignores you rightt

to an extent, sure, but the goal wasn't to obscure my intentions to the point of unreadability/completely being ignored. I knew it wasn't gonna be everyone's cup of tea and that it might not work out, but I am disappointed in how little people did with it. At the end of the day, though, it does fall to me to give up the ghost if it's not working out, which is why I did.

anyway enough with this shit, you're here, I'm posting text, so give me your thoughts on katsuki

[TehBrawlGuy]

Hey TBG now that you're posting words can you provide us with some of your strong reads in either direction beyond Katsuki?

Sure.

Dunn, Nancy, and Moment are all pretty strong Town.
Sakura, Brian and Wis all get enough townpoints for their position on Mylowagon that they're not in my lynchpool today, but I don't know that I'd put any of them at solidly town.

Katsuki is kind of it for strong Scum reads. Purr I feel better on - pretty null, maybe a little lean Scum.

After re-reading Matt's iso, I think he settles at Scum still but not strongly. His posts individually are fine, but it's weird to me that he comes in here under fire, and his first priorities are self-defense and interacting with Nancy (who is supposedly a Town read of his). It's a very safe way to wiggle out of being a leading wagon that doesn't look town motivated to me.

Nos I'm pretty null on, but I'd be fine with lynching, because his entire iso is fluff and him talking down to Nancy. It's almost impressive how little AI content he has in 70+ posts.

[TehBrawlGuy]

tldr;

katsuki > matt > nos > rest of game > townreads

[TehBrawlGuy]

actually while youre at it

wanna explain how you can possibly townread tbg after the horseshit that is his posting even after breaking his PR?

do you want to explain this ever or do you plan on winning the game purely by making AtE attempts

[TehBrawlGuy]

wait honestly i should vote him again this goes with my original plan

VOTE: Tbg

Green tho

i thought we had something

[TehBrawlGuy]

nancy, he was clearly joking about the guilties

if he wasn't don't you think I'd be 1v1ing him right now?

[TehBrawlGuy]

nancy, he was clearly joking about the guilties

if he wasn't don't you think I'd be 1v1ing him right now?

Here’s the thing, I just don’t buy town!Muffin pushing a lynch on me in this game. He was scumreading me all through Minuet, until he wasn’t but not only did he never try to get me lynched, he never even voted me iirc.

Of course, Katsuki immediately jumped on that too and she’s strongly defending both him and Matt.

I also think she has to be lying about getting not 1 but 2 innos, so if you’re right then either Matt or Muffin could be a pocket.

What’s really weird to me is Dunn’s reaction to Katsuki’s AtEs. He genuinely seems to be baffled by it. I would think if her AtEs were genuine, then how is it that Dunn seems to be so perplexed by them? Does that make any sense to you?

I think that's a pretty nonsensical reason to SR muffin TBH. It takes a far too static view of human behavior - people vary more than that, and games vary too.

You're not baffled by Katsuki's AtEs? I'm baffled by most of their play. I get what you're saying, and I agree that if they were fake that it would be more likely to baffle Dunn, but I also think he'd be baffled either way so I don't put a ton of stock in it.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Well Nancy is locktown now

That's nice

Trying to get Dunnstral to understand emotion is like trying to get wisdom to explain his reads.

How then do you explain his read on me? It’s mainly based off of tone?

You're asking me.
To explain someone elses read?

My point being, that his townread on me is based mainly on tone. You’re implying that he is incapable of reading emotion.

you know there's like grey area, right?

he can be bad at reading emotion without literally being a robot with no concept of feelings

[TehBrawlGuy]

nancy, he was clearly joking about the guilties

if he wasn't don't you think I'd be 1v1ing him right now?

Here’s the thing, I just don’t buy town!Muffin pushing a lynch on me in this game. He was scumreading me all through Minuet, until he wasn’t but not only did he never try to get me lynched, he never even voted me iirc.

Of course, Katsuki immediately jumped on that too and she’s strongly defending both him and Matt.

I also think she has to be lying about getting not 1 but 2 innos, so if you’re right then either Matt or Muffin could be a pocket.

What’s really weird to me is Dunn’s reaction to Katsuki’s AtEs. He genuinely seems to be baffled by it. I would think if her AtEs were genuine, then how is it that Dunn seems to be so perplexed by them? Does that make any sense to you?

I think that's a pretty nonsensical reason to SR muffin TBH. It takes a far too static view of human behavior - people vary more than that, and games vary too.

You're not baffled by Katsuki's AtEs? I'm baffled by most of their play. I get what you're saying, and I agree that if they were fake that it would be more likely to baffle Dunn, but I also think he'd be baffled either way so I don't put a ton of stock in it.

I disagree that it’s “nonsensical” but that isn’t the only reason. It’s just suspicious to me, how much effort he’s putting into derailing Matt wagon but seeming indifferent to Mylo. It could be NAI though but I really doubt that the former is though.

Yes, I am more baffled by the fact that Dunn has no idea what she’s upset about. She is so intensely hostile towards him, how can he possibly not know why - if it’s genuine - is my point.

katsuki referenced that whatever the thing is with dunn is related to an ongoing so they can't talk about it (ironically, that in itself is a reference to an ongoing, but I guess that's veiled enough it's kosher? i don't make the rules)

[TehBrawlGuy]

Nosferatu and Sakura are probably not scum together

Nos + Mariar is my guess right now, but one might be replaced with Kokichi

But Nos voted mylo and early. So that would be a hardbus. Do you really think scum hardbusses their roleblocker D1 in a game with probably only 3 scum in it?

why do you think there's only 3 scum in a 17p?

[TehBrawlGuy]

oops
fakegod games are 13:3
@tbg

well this game is definitely not 13:3, so...

[TehBrawlGuy]

alright, I think it's bad policy to bring anyone to L-1 without a claim, so...

intent

[TehBrawlGuy]

14:3, sorry

oh ok

then I'm willing to believe was only have 3 scum, although it's probably best to assume 4 for lylo purposes and whatnot

[TehBrawlGuy]

alright matt's posts today are town as fuck

i hesitate to say I townread him just because that's at odds with my view of him for the rest of the game, but he's definitely not in my lynchpool for today anymore

WHAT GIVES YOU A STRONG SCUM READ ON CUPCAKE? IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR WHAT YOU THINK MAKES HIM SCUM OR WHY YOU FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT IT

WHY DID YOU THINK PURR WAS SCUM YESTERDAY AND WHAT CHANGED?

TBG I THINK YOU MISSED MY QUESTIONS TO YOU (MAYBE I DIDNT ALL MY CAPS ENOUGH?)

(you're correct, i actually did miss them)

80+ posts with shockingly little content, which is a scumtell in itself, but worse in context. I have a lot of townreads on the fairly active players, so PoE suggests the remaining ones are likely to be Scum. Katsuki, despite appearing active because of the post-spam, isn't actually contributing or stating any reads - if you could filter down to just content posts, they'd be one of the less active players.

Also, it bothers me how little shade they've gotten for the lack of content. Mylo got lynched for it, and Ank and Spiffeh have taken some, but Katsuki has gotten off really easy by comparison.

As for Purr, honestly, I don't remember much. I remember the read turning with their posts early D2. Not writing shit down and posting pictures will do that to you. I usually don't take outside notes because my posts serve that role, but I probably should've given the circumstances. I can re-read their iso if you really care?

[TehBrawlGuy]

You're trying to paint a picture on how it's scummy for me to defend the mylo wagon and I'm explaining to you why I did. It's up to everyone else to decide if they think I'm scum for it or not.

for the record, I do agree with you

mylo lynch looked very questionable - you're lynching a player who lurks as either alignment, has made no relevant posts, and you're doing this lynch with widespread support? Obviously, we can look back with hindsight, but at the time, what does that look like? It looks like a free mislynch.

It's still not a bad lynch, because getting rid of dead weight players D1 is worthwhile, but I didn't think the odds were good Mylo was going to flip Scum.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Brian, talk with me a bit. Let's say (for now) that matt is town, that Dunnstral is right about Maria, and that people can read between the lines when it comes to Katsuki and MuffinMan. Who's scum? Ankamius? Kokichi? Spiffeh?

I'm quoting this again and putting it out there to anyone.

I'm not sure what you're saying about reading between the lines on Kat and Muffin?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Thinking about mylowagon - one reason that we might not have seen a counterwagon off of it is that the likely counterwagon(s) were on Scum, so there wasn't a viable non-Scum candidate. That lends some more weight to Nos being Scum, imo.

[TehBrawlGuy]

WILL ADVISE TOMORROW UPON COMPLETION OF COP INVESTIGATION TONIGHT

How about you talk about your stated stances now

Muffins town mariar scum, why?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Why exactly do you all scumread Muffins anyways? The Nancy Drew push?

I don't, ftr. They're at null for me.

[TehBrawlGuy]

can we fucking lynch the player that refuses to participate

[TehBrawlGuy]

mylo lynch looked very questionable - you're lynching a player who lurks as either alignment, has made no relevant posts, and you're doing this lynch with widespread support? Obviously, we can look back with hindsight, but at the time, what does that look like? It looks like a free mislynch.

he says while calling katsuki scum for lurking

VOTE: tehbrawlguy

are both of you unable to see the difference between:

making 7 total posts while mostly being gone
vs
making 80+ posts while mostly spamming the thread with bullshit

really?

[TehBrawlGuy]

also, where is the "widespread support" for katsuki lynch?

a big part of my suspicion on kats is that they're mostly being ignored despite both Dunn and I pushing them. I think Dunn is Town, and FMPoV I'm Town, so that means no Scum are pushing Kats. I think at least one would be going after Town!Kats if that's what we had

[TehBrawlGuy]

WHAT IS YOUR READ ON MARIAR, TBG?

mostly null, but I think the case against her w/r/t Mylo was awful and it bothers me nobody else spoke against it, so I think that's enough to lean her a bit Town

i definitely do not support lynching her today if that's what you're getting at

[TehBrawlGuy]

UM PEOPLE DID WANT TO LYNCH CUPCAKE D1 SO THAT REASONING DOESNT REALLY HOLD UP

I'm not talking about yesterday, I'm talking about the fact that we have a player basically refusing to post game relevant content today, yet nobody's really doing much about it. Regardless of D1, Katsuki would be a pretty soft target to push for their behavior today, and that's just not happening.

But if we want to talk about yesterday, don't you think it's weird just how hard that early wagon evaporated after just an AtE?

[TehBrawlGuy]

I'm not talking about yesterday, I'm talking about the fact that we have a player basically refusing to post game relevant content today, yet nobody's really doing much about it. Regardless of D1, Katsuki would be a pretty soft target to push for their behavior today, and that's just not happening.

He is posting game relevant content. It's just that people don't trust him. Lmao.

Where?

[TehBrawlGuy]

For a guy who spent the entire game posting pictures, you sure do lack any sort of comprehensive ability for abstract posting.

How rich is it that one of the people who whined at me for it is defending the guy who spams the thread in all caps and literally threatens to throw the game? "Abstract posting", like it's some kind of progressive art form.

[TehBrawlGuy]

How rich is it that one of the people who whined at me for it is defending the guy who spams the thread in all caps and literally threatens to throw the game? "Abstract posting", like it's some kind of progressive art form.

Yeah, but the difference is that this is just how he plays.

Well, fuck, I guess I should go back to pictures until you tolerate it as "just how I'm playing this game". If I'd been more obnoxious for longer, it would've been OK?

the guy who spams the thread in all caps and literally threatens to throw the game?

How are either of these scum indicative?

speaking of comprehensive ability, you're missing my point here

I'm calling you a hypocrite for being totally OK with Katsuki's egregious level of bullshit, but complaining repeatedly about me attempting to provide relevant content, albeit with an "images only" restriction.

[TehBrawlGuy]

but complaining repeatedly about me attempting to provide relevant content, albeit with an "images only" restriction.

I think I've only mentioned this about you

once

, and why is getting you to break a fake post restriction such a bad thing?

You're acting like we all kicked your puppy or something.

Well, for one, because I was having fun with the game then, and I'm having a lot less with it now. I like having fun.

Secondly, because it genuinely feels unfair that the thread is letting Katsuki get away with his behavior. I've been playing this game for nearly a decade, and I've literally never seen behavior this bad go this uncriticised.

Matt actually hit the nail on the head here:

honestly i still think im just killing time until i get mislynched because y'all are too afraid to lynch within people that you already know and i also dont think a lot of you are genuinely interested in reading me

i am salty, though

vote: muffin

[TehBrawlGuy]

Nothing yet. But that's because you had the luxury of Moment and I handing you scum on a silver platter Day 1, which you're now taking credit for despite contributing absolutely nothing to that wagon except your vote.

And now you've reverted back to your usual anti-town play.

Yeah, what sherlocking you did to decide to lynch the inactive.

You got lucky that he was mafia, and (presumably) got lucky again that his scumteam chose to bus him.

best doc play ever

If he neighborized katsuki and it turns out katsuki was poisoned, you could argue that maybe he was going for town cred by neighboring and poisoning the same person

I will be protecting Katsuki again tonight.

When you learn how to play the game, then you can talk.

says the guy who claimed doctor unpressured
after protecting the least useful player in the game
because he thinks he blocked the nightkill
in a game where we know a poisoner exists

brill-i-ant

like, you only think you did something useful because of your massive, throbbing ego

unfortunately, Dunn's correct and that means it's no longer optimal to lynch Kats or Muffins today, and time has made my scumread on matt wane.

VOTE: friday, although I think I'm still down for Nos too

[TehBrawlGuy]

Yeah, what sherlocking you did to decide to lynch the inactive.

You got lucky that he was mafia, and (presumably) got lucky again that his scumteam chose to bus him.

I've played with a lot of lurkers and have a lot of experience trying to read them.

It was mostly a guess (and yes, luck was involved), but it was an educated guess.

says the guy who claimed doctor unpressured
after protecting the least useful player in the game
because he thinks he blocked the nightkill
in a game where we know a poisoner exists

brill-i-ant

like, you only think you did something useful because of your massive, throbbing ego

unfortunately, Dunn's correct and that means it's no longer optimal to lynch Kats or Muffins today, and time has made my scumread on matt wane.

Am I 100% Kats is town? No. I just said not to lynch him today and that he was probably telling the truth.

It's not ego. It's proper play.

And if I had it my way, we wouldn't have had to pull out 3 claims in the first place.

Educated is being generous. He had two posts with content. Two. You can't glean shit from that.

But yeah, proper play always results in the doctor claiming D2 in the hopes that he did something last night. It's not like someone could've just been poisoned by a poisoner instead or anything.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Also, TBG is blowing the whole 'I'm mad/disappointed/sad about not getting to post in just pictures' way out of proportion.

you really don't get it, do you?

I'm not mad about the pictures

I'm mad about the blatant double standard between the way I was treated and Katsuki is being treated, especially given just how juvenile his behavior has been

[TehBrawlGuy]

IF CUPCAKE WASNT THE KILL, THEN THERES SOME BLOCKING ROLE THAT STOPPED IT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE CLAIMED BY NOW

DONT THINK "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POISONER" IS A SENSIBLE EXPLANATION FOR NO KILL BECAUSE POISONER WOULD BE A

ROLE

AND UNRELATED TO THE

FACTIONAL KILL

EITHER POISONER IS AN ELABORATE TROLL BY FAKEGOD OR IT ISN'T, BUT IN EITHER SCENARIO, SCUM STILL HAVE A MISSING FACTIONAL KILL SO LIKE IT OR NOT, CUPCAKE WAS PROBABLY SHOT AT LAST NIGHT

hold up, is the ms version of poisoner different than what I'm used to?

because the version I'm used to does the factional kill with poison, so it's delayed a day, and blocked by different shit

[TehBrawlGuy]

POISONER IS CLEARLY A ROLE

Poisoners and Doctors do not have guns

THE ROLE IS SEPARATE FROM THE FACTIONAL KILL

Mafia member may use any ability he/she has in addition to submitting a night kill

I don't see how that's invalidates the role I'm used to?

Poisoner
(P) If you submit the factional kill, [other stuff]

[TehBrawlGuy]

I mean I'm here and can technically selfhammer if need be.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Why don't we start with a claim friend

No, in the off-chance I live the day, it's better to remain unclaimed. Y'all have my blessing to hammer without.

Also join muffin maybe?

Idk, it really is the better play to sort him tomorrow. I'm not sure MLing me is worse, actually.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Why don't we start with a claim friend

No, in the off-chance I live the day, it's better to remain unclaimed. Y'all have my blessing to hammer without.

Also join muffin maybe?

Idk, it really is the better play to sort him tomorrow. I'm not sure MLing me is worse, actually.

I'm more confident Muffin flips scum than you. Well we got an hour to chit chat so what's on your mind what can I help ya with I got time to kill and blazblue to play

I pretty much laid my shit on the table already in terms of reads. Not much has changed - Brian's more town because of the claim, Matt feels better, I feel weird about people TRing the /out from Ank, but generally it's the same. If there's anything you want to know, go ahead and ask.

[TehBrawlGuy]

VoteCount 2.13

Wisdom [1] - Kokichi Oma
TehBrawlGuy [5] - zMuffinMan, Brian Skies, Purrcocet, Katsuki, Sakura Hana
zMuffinMan [5] - MariaR, projectmatt, Nancy Drew 39, Wisdom, Spiffeh
Prof Fridays [5] - Dunnstral x2, TehBrawlGuy, Moment, Nosferatu
Moment [1] - Prof Fridays

Not Voting [0]

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With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-08-04 15:00:00)

Looking at the VC, I'd guess one scum in {Purr, Katsuki, Sakura} and one in {Wisdom, Spiffeh}.

I feel particularly weird about the last two, because Muffin isn't really the correct lynch, but is also a harder ML than me to push if he's Town.

[TehBrawlGuy]

What makes you sr wisdom and Spiffy there my top tr's

PoE mostly. I feel like there's probably at least one scum vote parking on Muffin, although Kokichi is a good enough pick for that too.

actually cross referenced with what I posted earlier, I probably should let Wis slide.

Sure.

Dunn, Nancy, and Moment are all pretty strong Town.
Sakura, Brian and Wis all get enough townpoints for their position on Mylowagon that they're not in my lynchpool today, but I don't know that I'd put any of them at solidly town.

I have a vague tr on you, but nothing too strong.

[TehBrawlGuy]

also Spiffeh has just felt really off to me this game tonally - that would probably be where I'd fire if I was vengeful actually

I dont really care enough to read back and polish that read though since I'm gon die

If I had to take a random stab at the scumteam I'd probably pick three of {Purr, Spiffeh, Kats, Kokichi}

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: muffin i guess

i hate this vote because its better to sort him tomorrow but MLing a neighborizer isnt that bad

[TehBrawlGuy]

also genuinely I hope I never have to play in a list with katsuki and muffin again

absolutely obnoxious, juvenile players, and ironically a large part of this ML because we've wasted so much effort trying to coax them into some form of sanity

[TehBrawlGuy]

also A+ to have almost nobody here at deadline so I just sorta get lynched by default

[TehBrawlGuy]

i mean if you wanted to prove me correct, thanks?

[TehBrawlGuy]

dw tbg muffin and kat are in there own world we all understand

clearly not, I'm still the only player who's actually criticized katsuki for openly threatening to game throw

I do hope y'all reflect that letting shitty players live because they have a meta of being shitty players is a race to the bottom, though.

[TehBrawlGuy]

like that should be a force-replace level offense, period

but he got to wiggle out of lynch because he whined about dunn and everyone's hearts broke

[TehBrawlGuy]

dw tbg muffin and kat are in there own world we all understand

clearly not, I'm still the only player who's actually criticized katsuki for openly threatening to game throw

I do hope y'all reflect that letting shitty players live because they have a meta of being shitty players is a race to the bottom, though.

I've openly questioned it myself but eh Muffin is prob scum so I see it as a scum tactic

while kat is lol kat

that's the problem

that, right there

don't get complacent about shitty players being shitty, do something about it

[TehBrawlGuy]

maria, will you let me do the honors? I'll do it at 1:55 so you know I'm not bullshitting

[TehBrawlGuy]

IT WONT EMBED

THIS IS HOW I DIE

https://media.giphy.com/media/3X0nMYG46US2c/giphy.gif

[TehBrawlGuy]

I wish you stopped the pic posting sooner. This was nice

I mean, it didn't make Town do anything smart or come to their senses about Kat so I kinda wish I'd just rode it out til the end. Oh well.

[TehBrawlGuy]

VOTE: SELFHAMMER TEHBRAWLGUY

[TehBrawlGuy]

seriously though y'all need to show up for the fuckin deadline

this was so close to preventable

[TehBrawlGuy]

I mean, you didn't have to self-hammer?

Maria was gonna hammer me anyway - she was here to prevent NL. Better to have fun with it. Hell, even if she wasn't, I've always been of the opinion that a mislynch is better than no lynching anyway.

[TehBrawlGuy]

The level or lack thereof of self awareness is astounding.

Same?

[TehBrawlGuy]

also, I never avoided providing content when asked - I provided content (shitty or no) while posting images, and then participated in the thread

[TehBrawlGuy]

seriously though y'all need to show up for the fuckin deadline

this was so close to preventable

cause we totally would've swung it back over to muffin lol

prolly not, but better to have the option

[TehBrawlGuy]

You have a very interesting definition of the word content.

dude, you coming in here to complain about me "crying" or my supposed lack of self-awareness when you posted this is rich

I'm not claiming ever this day so if town want to go ahead and lynch me you guys deserve to lose.

I don't mind game throwing. Not with this punk ass bitch who wants to spend the entire game trying to put words in my mouth while calling me scum and wonder why I refuse to play mafia with him.

I tried to WOTO but FG didn't let. I've only ever destroyed most of the FG games I've played in as town but if this is the path we're going towards I'm fine with playing against my wincon. I'd sooner throw than play another game with Dunnstral.

VOTE: KATSUKI

[TehBrawlGuy]

Sorry if you're town TBG I hope you're not

I am.

also I hate to do this, since you're trying to be nice, but because it's still technically twilight I kinda hate this post

it's pretty lamist and I feel like my run-up and post-hammer posts should be super obvtown, and this is doing a bad job faking uncertainty

[TehBrawlGuy]

idk man I still have a wincon and you're in my scumpool

[TehBrawlGuy]

Never have I complained about your crying. Your play has been quite laughable. I've simply pointed it out, considering you've spent almost a week now crying about it.

Oh man,

a whole week

?

Remind me how long you held a death-grudge against Dunn for?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Let the man dream about his Spiffeh/Katsuki scumteam.

As if our interaction could ever be scum/scum.

I've seen a lot of scum/scum pairs fake really huge interactions specifically to say this, tbh

also I have you both in my 4 man scumpool, but there's probably only 2 scum left, so there are many scumteams in that that don't have you both scum

[TehBrawlGuy]

i mean I dont think kat/spiff is the MOST likely scumteam out of the pool, it's probably near the bottom

just don't write it off entirely