Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

[Brian Skies]

Hi I claim miller

Our second sacrifice!

VOTE: Creature

[Brian Skies]

ducklings cant play mafia

These are some fightin' words.

[Brian Skies]

dramonic
gammagooey
rb
stungun0404
the worst

gg you found the scumteam

Game's canceled. Everyone gets new and completely unbalanced roles.

[Brian Skies]

Well, yes, I guess you could technically call a scumteam a

secret masonry

.

[Brian Skies]

Are we doin' it? Are we going to sacrifice one of the five to see if they're all scum?

If so, then that would bump our claimed miller down to the third sacrifice of the game.

[Brian Skies]

Please ignore my vote on Creature. I just did it to get on the Seal's nerves.

I also don't see a point in moving my vote since we might already know the scumteam and we're doing death by duel, right?

Also, be back later.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Neither

[Brian Skies]

I changed my mind. I'm hitching a ride on the injustice train.

Ride or die Cupcake!

VOTE: Katsuki

[Brian Skies]

Are we doin' it? Are we going to sacrifice one of the five to see if they're all scum?

If so, then that would bump our claimed miller down to the third sacrifice of the game.

VOTE: Neither

I changed my mind. I'm hitching a ride on the injustice train.

Ride or die Cupcake!

VOTE: Katsuki

Please ignore my vote on Creature. I just did it to get on the Seal's nerves.

I also don't see a point in moving my vote since we might already know the scumteam and we're doing death by duel, right?

Also, be back later.

Those posts are beautiful!

Why yes, I agree.

[Brian Skies]

EDWARD KHAZIF'S WARES ARE BEAUTIFUL

YES!

YES THEY ARE!

RC GETS TO BE TOWN FOR THIS POST ALONE!

[Brian Skies]

I actually haven't read everything in thread.

Can someone explain to me who dies if we vote neither?

[Brian Skies]

Just them? For some reason I thought it was everyone not voting 'neither'.

[Brian Skies]

i mean my role pm says autobot, those r the good guys right???

Is this a scumclaim?

Was the outed 5-person scumteam a lie all along?

[Brian Skies]

Yes.

[Brian Skies]

It's not like I can do anything about it today even if it is.

[Brian Skies]

I don't want to sacrifice myself to a miller.

[Brian Skies]

Idk. I find insta-dueling someone on Day 2 so I can get out of this fiesta quite enticing.

[Brian Skies]

hmm

why are there 5 players at the bottom of the player list that aren't alphebatized with the rest of us?

dramonic
gammagooey

rb

stungun0404

the worst

look at rb he's so town

[Brian Skies]

@Mod: How many players are allowed to be in a duel at a time? Is it possible for there to be more than 2 combatants? Like, if I were to duel Fire, Katsuki, or Fire/Katsuki, would I become another potential Category?

[Brian Skies]

porpoise

[Brian Skies]

in fact, your progression this game is so bad that if i was gonna duel someone at the start of D2 it'd be you

also, you can't pocket me just bc i like u twerks >;|

Who are you even talking to?

[Brian Skies]

okay in rvs it was kinda funny, but if the ordering IS actually related to any kind of mechanical purpose then both spy and andrius would have fucked up majorly

i have enough confidence that the two of them combined are more competent than that

Just let me have my fun. It's not like anyone seriously believes this is the case or that any of you are getting lynched/killed today.

[Brian Skies]

update: "neither" was added to the bottom of the list; secret 6th scum???

I was thinking the

exact same thing

.

[Brian Skies]

so you're basically devoid of any real content, but now you're gonna just say 'its just a joke bro'

do better.

Yes, actually.

Also, no. I can't risk actually winning a duel.

[Brian Skies]

if skygazer can clear herself we'll let her duel whoever we as a collective think is scum tomorrow.

I wanted to duel you tomorrow, though.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: neither

Cold-blooded.

[Brian Skies]

My god. RC is a genius.

[Brian Skies]

Multiple Duels can happen in a single day. If you don't like what happened to a singular flip, re-duel the survivor before day ends and get more reads through vengeance.

Not how it works.

[Brian Skies]

A.)Duel - You may post once per day "Duel: Player Name". At this point, only votes counting for you, the player you have dueled, or for neither will be counted. At the end of 48 hours or when one category has a majority OR deadline would activate, the category with the most votes wins the duel and all other parties are killed and the day ends. This does not count as using an active ability during the cycle and can not be blocked.

If "Neither" wins, all other parties are killed and the day ends.

^I'm assuming one duel per day per the above.

[Brian Skies]

brian, the problem i have with it is

I'm sorry, was I talking to you?

you are using all these alleys to shield yourself and distract others

I have no idea where you get this impression, but this is literally the

opposite

of what I'm doing. But don't let

me

tell you that.

[Brian Skies]

533: ok, townlean on rc for being attentive enough to a). notice the difference in the capitalizations, and

b). for not encouraging scumhunting to continue there IN SPITE OF not being in that pool of players that was supposedly "incriminated".

What?

[Brian Skies]

She claimed she was an Autobot. I asked if that was a scumclaim. She explained it in a way that would make sense if she were a miller. 501 is a joke (although if you read 512 or 518, you would already know this) and since I'm currently immune to death right now, I'm taking the liberty to shitpost until the Day Ends.

[Brian Skies]

533: ok, townlean on rc for being attentive enough to a). notice the difference in the capitalizations, and

b). for not encouraging scumhunting to continue there IN SPITE OF not being in that pool of players that was supposedly "incriminated".

What?

scum want town to be distracted from proper lynches, so in the instance he’s scum it would only be applicable if he has a partner in there, otherwise what incentive does scum him have for distracting town away from that?

Break this down for me, because neither your original statement nor your explanation for it make sense to me.

[Brian Skies]

ultimately, i feel it’s unlikely scum bothers to give that type of attention to detail, unless they have serious incentive to do so, which would only be in the case of having partners in there if radiantcowbells wasn’t in that group of players himself

I thought you were referring to Fire/Cupcake, but it seems you're just referring to the 6-person secret masonry?

[Brian Skies]

i’m not quite sure you are town

You don't need to be. I don't plan on being here for that long.

[Brian Skies]

Scum dayvig.

[Brian Skies]

Why do we not have a countdown timer for our deadline?

[Brian Skies]

i could see KatsScum day vigging DGB.
But I kind of almost want to find out who DGB is really good at reading and go back from there, most likely in the older players, because DGB isn't really known in the newer crowd.

Maybe she got shot for supporting Cupcake in the duel.

"That'll show 'em!"

[Brian Skies]

This forum needs sarcasm tags.

[Brian Skies]

firebringer, do you have any townreads/townleans?

ive given probably a dozen reads in this game thus far.

Town: Creature, Spiffeh, Ircher, dramonic, rb, Skygazer
Weak Town: RC,
Suspicious Vibes: Garmr,
Scum: Seal, MariaR, Katsuki

Wow, you're not even going to attempt to read me?

[Brian Skies]

oh.


oh my

^Town, maybe?

[Brian Skies]

Ugh, you're one of those.

[Brian Skies]

Kats is already being dueled.

[Brian Skies]

Fate, that's not how the voting works.

[Brian Skies]

You vote for who you want to WIN!

And if you want both to die, you vote NEITHER!

[Brian Skies]

​A Bunch of Numbers

Your use of percentages is scummy.

[Brian Skies]

Information Instead of Analysis

[Brian Skies]

Then you should check out his Porkens read.

[Brian Skies]

Then you should check out his Porkens read.

Nevermind on this. The list is just poorly organized.

[Brian Skies]

followed by null and neutral reads

Yes, I got confused because these really shouldn't be two different groups.

[Brian Skies]

Then don't blame me for mistaking Porkens for being a higher read than he actually is.

Why is rb so low for you?

[Brian Skies]

As I stated, a lot gut!scum!pings. It may be in part due to a bias of disagreeing with their reads though.

Okay, what's giving you gut!scum!pings?

[Brian Skies]

Sorry I even asked.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Neither

Not because I wanted to lynch Cupcake, but because the game must go on.

[Brian Skies]

Why do all my townreads die?

[Brian Skies]

There are people in this game that I didn't even know were in this game.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Gammagooey

[Brian Skies]

Don't pick me or you lose period

So tempting.

[Brian Skies]

We have (expired on 2018-07-22 15:17:14) to decide, as a group, who I’m dueling.

Duel me?

[Brian Skies]

Why? If you are Town, you do not want to duel me because mechanical, it benefits town for me to win.

If I'm town, it benefits me for you to win?

So, what's the problem?

[Brian Skies]

Please note that in Dynasty Warriors there was a role that automatically killed anyone who started a duel against them

Sooo be wary of people like Brian offering themselves up like that

I'm perfectly okay with initiating the duel if that's an issue for anyone.

[Brian Skies]

Again, if you are Town, you don’t want to duel me (and I wouldn’t want to duel you in that case).

?

[Brian Skies]

I think Gamma is maf, thoughts?

[Brian Skies]

Oh, I should probably specify. I think Gammagooey is maf, thoughts?

[Brian Skies]

Tell me how dueling you benefits town from your POV given the above assumptions.

Because it means I can go to the Graveyard and be absolved of cleaning up this mess, while potentially either helping someone I think is town (or is more likely to be town than not town) activate a good Energon ability or perhaps acquire a mystery Scrap ability if they don't really like their Energon ability.

[Brian Skies]

I think Gammagooey's stance on the duel mechanic was very opportunistic yesterday, especially since he 1) stated he thought Firebringer was probably town and 2) didn't scumread Katsuki. I think he was trying to take advantage of his comment in the sign-up thread and apply it here, even though the two situations are not actually the same.

[Brian Skies]

people who jump the gun on someone scummy instead of letting a very prob-town player get an ability go in the scrapheap WITH the scummy motherfucker

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Antihero

[Brian Skies]

the fact that they keep soft claiming some role needing scrap makes it pretty obvious that they had some PURPOSE for the move as town.

This doesn't make him town, and he only did this AFTER he fueled, so no.

[Brian Skies]

the fact that they keep soft claiming some role needing scrap makes it pretty obvious that they had some PURPOSE for the move as town.

This doesn't make him town, and he only did this AFTER he fueled, so no.

what makes antihero town?

Nothing. So long as Anti or Neither wins, I'm happy.

[Brian Skies]

And you did this before 1) reading the game or 2) letting Ircher duel first because...?

[Brian Skies]

If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

How is Porkens obvious town?

[Brian Skies]

I didn't ask you, scum. And that's already been addressed.

[Brian Skies]

my theory is that Porkens is more sacrificing himself so Ircher can't use his ability today and his team will try to get at Ircher during the night

there's also the possibility Porkens is dumb!scum.

There's really just no town motivation behind his duel.

[Brian Skies]

I guess the optimal and most protown method to play this game is to selfishly insta-duel someone without regard for other players. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to stake my claim tomorrow.

[Brian Skies]

I guess the optimal and most protown method to play this game is to selfishly insta-duel someone without regard for other players. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to stake my claim tomorrow.

Neither Spiffeh nor I are making that claim.

No, but youre encouraging it.

[Brian Skies]

Yes Brian because punishing Firebringer for it yesterday worked really well in preventing the hasty random duels from happening today

If we keep punishing the behavior over finding/lynching the actual scum we're going to lose pretty quickly

Yes the random duels are really awful

There's not really anything to be done about that right now that doesn't continue to reduce town's chances at winning

Okay, then I'll be sure to grab my instant duel tomorrow.

Because apparently people are going to do it anyway and Energon/Scrap is such a valuable resource. So I may as well stake my claim, right?

[Brian Skies]

Yes Brian because punishing Firebringer for it yesterday worked really well in preventing the hasty random duels from happening today

If we keep punishing the behavior over finding/lynching the actual scum we're going to lose pretty quickly

Yes the random duels are really awful

There's not really anything to be done about that right now that doesn't continue to reduce town's chances at winning

Okay, then I'll be sure to grab my instant duel tomorrow.

Because apparently people are going to do it anyway and Energon/Scrap is such a valuable resource. So I may as well stake my claim, right?

[Brian Skies]

Really? I find it completely reasonable.

[Brian Skies]

You're probably not 3rd party anyway, but I don't have a problem with anything she's said.

[Brian Skies]

if there's a vig brian needs to catch a NK

Yes, please do so I don't have to play in this fiesta of a game anymore.

[Brian Skies]

I still think Gooey's scum.

[Brian Skies]

Official Duel Count

neither

(14):

Gammagooey

,

RadiantCowbells

,

Firebringer

,

rb

, UnrealSeal, Fundamental Theorem, the worst,

Skygazer

,

Gamma Emerald

,

Porkens

,

Papa Zito

,

Creature

, stungun0404, Brian Skies

Katsuki

(4): MariaR, Katsuki, BlueBloodedToffee,

Fate

Firebringer

(4): Toogeloo, Spiffeh, Antihero, Garmr

Not Voting

(6): Vecna, Princess Celestia, Lady Lambdadelta, dramonic, neither, Prof Fridays

With 27 alive, it takes 14 to lynch.

NEITHER WINS. Please Hold.

Official Duel Count

Porkens

(9):

Creature

,

Porkens

, Prof Fridays, Spiffeh,

Gamma Emerald

,

Papa Zito

,

Skygazer

,

rb

,

Gammagooey

Antihero

(7): UnrealSeal, stungun0404, Brian Skies, Lady Lambdadelta, Toogeloo, Fundamental Theorem, Antihero

neither

(3): MariaR, BlueBloodedToffee, the worst

Not Voting

(4): Vecna, Garmr, neither, dramonic

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to declare a winner.

The new movies never happened.

Almost the entirety of the Porkens wagon voted neither yesterday, with the exceptions of Prof Fridays (who didn't vote) and Spiffeh, who also voted for the instigator of the duel yesterday.

Yeah. This is a bad wagon.

[Brian Skies]

Thank you.

[Brian Skies]

I think scum (Porkens) are trying to take advantage of the Fire v Katsuki duel results from yesterday.

"Surely scum wouldn't be so brazen as to initiate this duel so early after seeing the result of the last one."

I don't agree, at all, but sure, I can see how some of you mistakenly believe this has to be the case again.

purely on a gameplay level, porkens does not seem like town to me at this moment —> i think he’s scum. reason is i don’t feel town reaches for the duel this early in the day phase after seeing the result of the last duel, even if they’re relatively inattentive.

porkens can’t claim to being inattentive though, given that he was still responding to posts in what was basically the rvs area of this thread (posts 1-150) when he pulled the duel card out, yet he supposedly “knows” he can duel now?

and apparently he voted neither dueler to win the last duel. so why is he suddenly wanting to win this duel, but he was against either winning the last duel. like, really?

^Porkens has NO EXCUSE for completely ignoring FT's request for dueling first.

FT also said his role could help town get a second flip today, which COULD HAVE helped balance the power between town and scum today after our fiesta yesterday.

So clearly, there can be scum motivation here since Porkens could have been trying to neuter or hamper FT's role. Especially since we didn't know who FT would have dueled yet (and I'm sure Porkens was a possible candidate just based on FT's and others' reads and he probably

knew

this).

His target was also someone who barely had a chance to post and others were also expressing some suspicion on. So if Anti is town, then this was an opportunistic jump to ride that sentiment and win duel he thought he could win.

I don't think anything Porken's has done is townish at all, and the only thing that even remotely resembles a reason for people thinking he's town is his partial claim which is probably bs anyway. "I really need scrap." Who doesn't?

[Brian Skies]

Like, literally. You had a bunch of people going 'no, no, why bother figuring out whether Fire or Kats is town, let's lynch them both' or 'Fire might be town but let's lynch him anyway' yesterday.

And these same people are now voting for Porkens WHO DID THE SAME THING AND DOESN'T HAVE THE EXCUSE OF IGNORANCE LIKE FIRE HAD.

[Brian Skies]

Don't see how that's relevant, but okay.

[Brian Skies]

As far as Porken knowing there wasn't currently a duel

This is probably not true, and he still initiated it.

And all of his posts after imply intent (in that he knew he could and that he wanted to).

[Brian Skies]

Wait, no, I read that line wrong. He definitely knew there wasn't currently a duel.

[Brian Skies]

or maybe porkens...? (while maybe brash and premature, i don't see scum doing what he did after seeing the last impulse dueler go up in flames, not to mention the "GIMME POWERS" feels pretty genuine to me)

While you could probably convince me the two are both scum here, what scumbag goes into a duel with town saying he thinks his opponent is unlikely to be maf?

[Brian Skies]

Lynch him anyway.

Blood for the FateGod.

[Brian Skies]

Just curious why it took you to post 1394 to get into gear.

I'm lazy and wasn't expecting to have to deal with TWO DUELS IN FOUR DAYS. I was also never planning on putting this much effort in.

I'm treating this as multiball now with a dinobot flip. Dinobots will be looking to kill the other scum team (which is probs autobots) to even the field. Since the biggest threat to the scum team is actually the other scum team. Auto bots will prob retaliate if they are hit or they will be looking to keep up the advantage. Either way it's better for town if the scum teams are unevenly powered at this point.

I don't really like Multiball (I'm pretty sure the first one wasn't even Multiball). I'm also not going to speculate on this unless we're given a competing flip.

The scum who voted neither would want to keep up appearances and would expect that people who voted neither today would be put in a bad light.

Yeah, sure.

It becomes more likely if one of the scum teams is put in a duel today. They would be flocking to support one side (to save or bus their team member).

Yeah, sure.

If both are scum then I doubt that any scum team would pick neither.

I don't see why they

couldn't

.

Especially if you think it's Multiball.

If both are town I can make a educated guess that scum will pick one of the two who looks more town to survive.

Maybe. They might also try and save whichever one just seems more beneficial for them to keep around. Do you think they're both town?

Both scum teams must of had at least one scum team member active yesterday as well since kills were registered.

Yeah, sure.

[Brian Skies]

i mean my role pm says autobot, those r the good guys right???

ngl when I saw that I was a decepticon that wouldn't appear to be a decepticon to investigations I thought I was some kind of cop-immune traitor

The existence of a Dinobot makes the second line here kind of consistent?

She said she can confirm herself anyway, but Autobots could also be a thing, I guess.

The Dinobot could also just be an SK. Or a Survivor considering that's the same color the Survivor had in the Dynasty Warriors game.

[Brian Skies]

what motive does scum have for doing this random shit?

Read posts before you make bad assertions.

[Brian Skies]

17 hours?

[Brian Skies]

We're roasting the pig in (expired on 2018-07-24 10:32:00)

[Brian Skies]

Yep.

[Brian Skies]

Thank you.

vigging brian skies

This would be a wonderful present for me either way.

[Brian Skies]

and i think giving someone who i think is very likely town a power from a duel

Good for you, even if I don't agree with you that the player in question is actually townish.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: neither

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: antihero

[Brian Skies]

Duel: Gammagooey

[Brian Skies]

You can watch me before scum get actions in.

[Brian Skies]

Dayvig*

[Brian Skies]

"I need to make sure my team gets a kill locked in first."

[Brian Skies]

I also think the multi-ball subject should be brought up again I think because Antihero flipped with "Insecticon Nihilist" but still had the Town color.

He was town. What's so hard about this?

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Neither

[Brian Skies]

Anyhow, I'm out. Good luck.

[Brian Skies]

Unless you really have an Energon Ability you need to activate, you should consider scrapping me, fwiw. Idk what you're going to get, but it might be good.

[Brian Skies]

Thank you!