Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

[Brian Skies]

I think scum (Porkens) are trying to take advantage of the Fire v Katsuki duel results from yesterday.

"Surely scum wouldn't be so brazen as to initiate this duel so early after seeing the result of the last one."

I don't agree, at all, but sure, I can see how some of you mistakenly believe this has to be the case again.

purely on a gameplay level, porkens does not seem like town to me at this moment —> i think he’s scum. reason is i don’t feel town reaches for the duel this early in the day phase after seeing the result of the last duel, even if they’re relatively inattentive.

porkens can’t claim to being inattentive though, given that he was still responding to posts in what was basically the rvs area of this thread (posts 1-150) when he pulled the duel card out, yet he supposedly “knows” he can duel now?

and apparently he voted neither dueler to win the last duel. so why is he suddenly wanting to win this duel, but he was against either winning the last duel. like, really?

^Porkens has NO EXCUSE for completely ignoring FT's request for dueling first.

FT also said his role could help town get a second flip today, which COULD HAVE helped balance the power between town and scum today after our fiesta yesterday.

So clearly, there can be scum motivation here since Porkens could have been trying to neuter or hamper FT's role. Especially since we didn't know who FT would have dueled yet (and I'm sure Porkens was a possible candidate just based on FT's and others' reads and he probably

knew

this).

His target was also someone who barely had a chance to post and others were also expressing some suspicion on. So if Anti is town, then this was an opportunistic jump to ride that sentiment and win duel he thought he could win.

I don't think anything Porken's has done is townish at all, and the only thing that even remotely resembles a reason for people thinking he's town is his partial claim which is probably bs anyway. "I really need scrap." Who doesn't?

[Fundamental Theorem]

I will say that the droves of people saying they cant play because they cant vote is...disturbing

I agree.

[Brian Skies]

Like, literally. You had a bunch of people going 'no, no, why bother figuring out whether Fire or Kats is town, let's lynch them both' or 'Fire might be town but let's lynch him anyway' yesterday.

And these same people are now voting for Porkens WHO DID THE SAME THING AND DOESN'T HAVE THE EXCUSE OF IGNORANCE LIKE FIRE HAD.

[Fundamental Theorem]

I think scum (Porkens) are trying to take advantage of the Fire v Katsuki duel results from yesterday.

"Surely scum wouldn't be so brazen as to initiate this duel so early after seeing the result of the last one."

I don't agree, at all, but sure, I can see how some of you mistakenly believe this has to be the case again.

purely on a gameplay level, porkens does not seem like town to me at this moment —> i think he’s scum. reason is i don’t feel town reaches for the duel this early in the day phase after seeing the result of the last duel, even if they’re relatively inattentive.

porkens can’t claim to being inattentive though, given that he was still responding to posts in what was basically the rvs area of this thread (posts 1-150) when he pulled the duel card out, yet he supposedly “knows” he can duel now?

and apparently he voted neither dueler to win the last duel. so why is he suddenly wanting to win this duel, but he was against either winning the last duel. like, really?

^Porkens has NO EXCUSE for completely ignoring FT's request for dueling first.

FT also said his role could help town get a second flip today, which COULD HAVE helped balance the power between town and scum today after our fiesta yesterday.

So clearly, there can be scum motivation here since Porkens could have been trying to neuter or hamper FT's role. Especially since we didn't know who FT would have dueled yet (and I'm sure Porkens was a possible candidate just based on FT's and others' reads and he probably

knew

this).

His target was also someone who barely had a chance to post and others were also expressing some suspicion on. So if Anti is town, then this was an opportunistic jump to ride that sentiment and win duel he thought he could win.

I don't think anything Porken's has done is townish at all, and the only thing that even remotely resembles a reason for people thinking he's town is his partial claim which is probably bs anyway. "I really need scrap." Who doesn't?

For the record, UnrealSeal was my most likely target for the duel, but I was trying to give people time to give their thoughts out.

[Brian Skies]

Don't see how that's relevant, but okay.

[Fundamental Theorem]

As far as Porken knowing there wasn't currently a duel, I think that is possible without being fully caught up: simply look at the game's title. (Notably, it states when a duel is in progress and not.)

That said, one really should bother reading the thread first rather than make day 2 a repeat of day 1.

[Brian Skies]

As far as Porken knowing there wasn't currently a duel

This is probably not true, and he still initiated it.

And all of his posts after imply intent (in that he knew he could and that he wanted to).

[Brian Skies]

Wait, no, I read that line wrong. He definitely knew there wasn't currently a duel.

[Brian Skies]

or maybe porkens...? (while maybe brash and premature, i don't see scum doing what he did after seeing the last impulse dueler go up in flames, not to mention the "GIMME POWERS" feels pretty genuine to me)

While you could probably convince me the two are both scum here, what scumbag goes into a duel with town saying he thinks his opponent is unlikely to be maf?

[Creature]

As far as Porken knowing there wasn't currently a duel, I think that is possible without being fully caught up: simply look at the game's title. (Notably, it states when a duel is in progress and not.)

That said, one really should bother reading the thread first rather than make day 2 a repeat of day 1.

could go just:

Me: I duel dramonic
Someone: You idiot Porkens is already dueling Antihero
Me: Oh okay then

[Creature]

Porkens is pretty weird tbh

[Brian Skies]

Lynch him anyway.

Blood for the FateGod.

[Creature]

Okay, let's try:

VOTE: Antihero

[Garmr]

I think scum (Porkens) are trying to take advantage of the Fire v Katsuki duel results from yesterday.

"Surely scum wouldn't be so brazen as to initiate this duel so early after seeing the result of the last one."

I don't agree, at all, but sure, I can see how some of you mistakenly believe this has to be the case again.

purely on a gameplay level, porkens does not seem like town to me at this moment —> i think he’s scum. reason is i don’t feel town reaches for the duel this early in the day phase after seeing the result of the last duel, even if they’re relatively inattentive.

porkens can’t claim to being inattentive though, given that he was still responding to posts in what was basically the rvs area of this thread (posts 1-150) when he pulled the duel card out, yet he supposedly “knows” he can duel now?

and apparently he voted neither dueler to win the last duel. so why is he suddenly wanting to win this duel, but he was against either winning the last duel. like, really?

^Porkens has NO EXCUSE for completely ignoring FT's request for dueling first.

FT also said his role could help town get a second flip today, which COULD HAVE helped balance the power between town and scum today after our fiesta yesterday.

So clearly, there can be scum motivation here since Porkens could have been trying to neuter or hamper FT's role. Especially since we didn't know who FT would have dueled yet (and I'm sure Porkens was a possible candidate just based on FT's and others' reads and he probably

knew

this).

His target was also someone who barely had a chance to post and others were also expressing some suspicion on. So if Anti is town, then this was an opportunistic jump to ride that sentiment and win duel he thought he could win.

I don't think anything Porken's has done is townish at all, and the only thing that even remotely resembles a reason for people thinking he's town is his partial claim which is probably bs anyway. "I really need scrap." Who doesn't?

A little bit different than I thought how you would of responded and what I was thinking myself. I was more focused on the people wagoning the two than the people duelling themselves. I like it none the less. Just curious why it took you to post 1394 to get into gear.

All I was thinking was there's likely to be scum between the two of them compared to day 1. As the people who voted neither and switched to voting someone today. The scum who voted neither would want to keep up appearances and would expect that people who voted neither today would be put in a bad light. It becomes more likely if one of the scum teams is put in a duel today. They would be flocking to support one side (to save or bus their team member). If both are scum then I doubt that any scum team would pick neither. If both are town I can make a educated guess that scum will pick one of the two who looks more town to survive.

Both scum teams must of had at least one scum team member active yesterday as well since kills were registered.

I'm treating this as multiball now with a dinobot flip. Dinobots will be looking to kill the other scum team (which is probs autobots) to even the field. Since the biggest threat to the scum team is actually the other scum team. Auto bots will prob retaliate if they are hit or they will be looking to keep up the advantage. Either way it's better for town if the scum teams are unevenly powered at this point.

[Creature]

guess we're going to have a lovable multiball game

I'm not that surprised tbh

[Brian Skies]

Just curious why it took you to post 1394 to get into gear.

I'm lazy and wasn't expecting to have to deal with TWO DUELS IN FOUR DAYS. I was also never planning on putting this much effort in.

I'm treating this as multiball now with a dinobot flip. Dinobots will be looking to kill the other scum team (which is probs autobots) to even the field. Since the biggest threat to the scum team is actually the other scum team. Auto bots will prob retaliate if they are hit or they will be looking to keep up the advantage. Either way it's better for town if the scum teams are unevenly powered at this point.

I don't really like Multiball (I'm pretty sure the first one wasn't even Multiball). I'm also not going to speculate on this unless we're given a competing flip.

The scum who voted neither would want to keep up appearances and would expect that people who voted neither today would be put in a bad light.

Yeah, sure.

It becomes more likely if one of the scum teams is put in a duel today. They would be flocking to support one side (to save or bus their team member).

Yeah, sure.

If both are scum then I doubt that any scum team would pick neither.

I don't see why they

couldn't

.

Especially if you think it's Multiball.

If both are town I can make a educated guess that scum will pick one of the two who looks more town to survive.

Maybe. They might also try and save whichever one just seems more beneficial for them to keep around. Do you think they're both town?

Both scum teams must of had at least one scum team member active yesterday as well since kills were registered.

Yeah, sure.

[Brian Skies]

i mean my role pm says autobot, those r the good guys right???

ngl when I saw that I was a decepticon that wouldn't appear to be a decepticon to investigations I thought I was some kind of cop-immune traitor

The existence of a Dinobot makes the second line here kind of consistent?

She said she can confirm herself anyway, but Autobots could also be a thing, I guess.

The Dinobot could also just be an SK. Or a Survivor considering that's the same color the Survivor had in the Dynasty Warriors game.

[Creature]

Are we still setup speccing?

[Toogeloo]

Are we still setup speccing?

It's easier than scum hunting.

[Creature]

Are we still setup speccing?

It's easier than scum hunting.

Okay, count me in

[Creature]

SK on this setup would be like lol

[Toogeloo]

inb4dayvigissk.

[Creature]

Three scumteams is possible?

[rb]

I agree 'too dumb to be scum' is generally a bad argument but i think porkens tone and aggression are town

its a huuuuuuge leap to think that this duel by him is scum engineering to take advantage of a situation by pulling a duel like this, when 5 town died in one phase - what motive does scum have for doing this random shit?

its just more likely to come from town, and i think porkens has Town Swag™

[Brian Skies]

what motive does scum have for doing this random shit?

Read posts before you make bad assertions.