Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

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hai

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but then you didnt

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Non game question, when did Mala evolve?

this game is her first as kitty

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VOTE: majiffy

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sure

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i just realized there was an overkill 1
Was there something interesting in there i should know about?

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why though
I usually vote top wagons yet didnt feel like voting either

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being towny is overrated

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How many scum are we looking at

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did nancy finally roll scum

VOTE: drewva

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youre definitely not obvtown

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There have been tons of games since necromancer
That excuse has expired

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I agree; his vote is the worst on your slot.

the worst isnt in this game

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Is Cerb always like a serious business type of guy. Don’t remember ever playing with him before

yes

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its not me whos derping

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srsly
You want to tell me you thought i was serious there

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You cant detect that as being funny and you want to accuse other people of derping
Srsly nancy

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I do what as scum? Misunderstand things? Or do you mean something different by derping

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i stopped reading at usual town games

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no

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That just means youre going to emulate it as scum

My point is we've been over this in a game after necromancer and you reacting like this is not warranted

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why are you assuming we have reasons and you even know what our reasons are

Because this is the beginning of Necromancer redux. You hard defended me for that last time. That’s what I’m not getting. How is what’s happening rn any different then the beginning of that game? You know it’s not.

by that logic im not allowed to vote you in any game because it will be like necromancer
Or will you be kind enough to not object when you actually roll scum and i vote you?

ring any bells?

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you

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Amzela is drewva town?

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Dude is now on wisdom, who I am pretty sure is town

that buddying tho

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did nancy finally roll scum

VOTE: drewva

She was scum last game.

I wasnt there

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@Wisdom: Why are you townreading Amzela?

Im not

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I asked her if shes townreading drewva
I want to know why she voted me

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The fact that he hasn’t checked the link I gave him, when I actually was scum but still nevertheless is suggesting I’m somehow “emulating” my town game, definitely concerns me.

you know full well i dont read games i wasn't in

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Gun to head, I think Wisdom could be a 3P here.

why 3p over scum?

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You do realize that that quote he referenced was taken from Forgotten Hourglass, where he was scum and I was town, right?

I like how you repeat this like it means anything and completely dodging the actual point i was making

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gah i cant stand this backwards logic

VOTE: majiffy

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Because shes town
I doubt she can fake moonlogic so believably

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You do realize that that quote he referenced was taken from Forgotten Hourglass, where he was scum and I was town, right?

I like how you repeat this like it means anything and completely dodging the actual point i was making

Why did you choose a post you made as scum to rederence? Why would you expect me to have ignored that fact?

My alignment in that game doesnt matter, nancy
I was reminding you we've had this discussion already and that you can't just reference necromancer every time im pressuring you

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Nancy you dont really have a case on majiffy.

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Nancy you dont really have a case on majiffy.

Why are you voting him then?

This post makes 0 sense coming from you.

I almost want to revote you

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im saying you have no case
Not that you voting him is scummy
Youre way too defensive
Guilty conscience?

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VOTE: drewva

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first of all im not even scumreading majiffy
My vote was there just because i wanted it to be there
But even if i was,

your

reasoning for

your

vote on him was crap. It doesn't mean shit that you were sheeping me.

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what do you think im scumreading her for, hebi?

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so basically there's a jester and prolly a lyncher

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danganronpa was my first game with kokichi

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ninja aint bastard

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Ninja is even considered normal according to wiki

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dave anyone youd like to vote?

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It's really hard for me to get others to see shit that I consider obvious

try me
im 2/2 on reading bu and he looks town here

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gamma talk to us
any reads?

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what red herring

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Town lean
Fish
Chick

elaborate on these please

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I dont get multiball from that
Why cant it apply to singleball

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More Towny
Chick

Why chick

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Toog - not sure what a hammer does

hammer = last vote on a wagon that secures the lynch and ends the day

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I feel that DrewVa is scum and that the whole thing with Nancy and Wisdom is staged (sorry Nancy, don't want to invalidate your feelings)

Do you mean staged by her or that we're both scum

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What is pocketing? And what is multiballing/singleballing?

Pocketing is when you buddy someone as scum in order for them to townread you
Multiball = multiple scum groups, singleball = one scum group

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Overkill 1 was multi ball, I really don't think there's any reason to think this game wouldn't be.

Wasnt overkill singleball with a bunch of 3ps
Sks arent a faction

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youre not pushing me though

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i remember nothing from thor

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rce looks town to me

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If youre assuming multiball why do you not assume SvS
What is it that makes one of us strictly town

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VOTE: profii

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what is the drama they were purposefully causing? They were just answering to nancy

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drixx was not out of line. You just misunderstood 99% of what he said as you usually do

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Drixx you're being a grade-A asshole here and it's definitely crossed from unintentional slight to willingly disrespectful and distracting to the game. Stand down on the attacks.

look at jiffy buddying Nancy
Guess hes actually scum

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and profii is town

VOTE: majiffy

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wouldnt be surprised if she turns out to be lyncher on me
she should be seeing im town by now

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how is dgb obvscum
isnt she always like thisqq

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thisqq

this*

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dont like any of these wagons

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Creature, Alchemist, Chick, Thor, Cheeky, BEF, Majiffy, Amzela

people i could vote in no specific order

the rest not really

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He's actively trying to solve sure, but his way is so anti-town that I'm going to end up being scum read because I won't be actively able to stay updated and then I'll be lynched.

I dont get it
The way creature is catching up makes it way easier to follow his thoughts than if he posted all of that in a huge wall

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So Creature’s posting is absolutely awful but I don’t think his reads match what scum!him would do

no it isn't wtf guys
Creature is obvtowning it up

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Creature, Alchemist, Chick, Thor, Cheeky, BEF, Majiffy, Amzela

people i could vote in no specific order

the rest not really

Bad

You're now off that list
Do you think someone else should be?

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Creature can’t you do this in Notepad or a personalized PT and then post just the juicy bits in here?

I like doing this way because it reflects my thoughts the exact time

Keep doing it like this, don't listen to them
If you had posted a quote wall I would have skipped it

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Yes, some will still bitch about quote walls, but fuck em. If you're not prepared to read don't play the fucking game, or at least don't BITCH ABOUT the need to read a text based game.

Then stop bitching about creature's posts

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:/ I'm losing my TR on chick.

why did you even have one

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I am horrified that we are 58 pages in, with three three vote wagons competing.
I'mma do what I can to help;

Don't know Pinturiccho, so no sheep energy there.
Wisdom don't get sheepage.
RR...maybe.
Majiffy, sure.
Varsoon looks town.
DGB sure.

VOTE: BuJaber

Now we have a 4 vote wagona three vote wagon and a two vote wagon - excitement!

awful

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No reason given in the vote post

This analysis is going to go great if youre basing it on reasons in vote posts

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VOTE: Bujaber
Back on the track, this the anime master.
Hoes on my flick, Cowboy Bebop when I'm blastin' em

bu is town, varsoon. Dont make me worry about you.

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I agree it's town creature here. Do you scumread Creature because of the wisdom goggles?

If this is at me, I'm not saying Creature is scum. I'm saying Wisdom giving Creature an easy townread based on superficial meta reasons is scum indicative for Wisdom - D

where the fuck did i mention meta
Stop being so bad

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Caught up

Majiffy, Thor, Chickadee are the top priority lynches
Alchemist and BEF follow

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because read his posts

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hes not town because of "one burst of activity"
Its funny that you think you can assign reasons to my reads on your own

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Yes, some will still bitch about quote walls, but fuck em. If you're not prepared to read don't play the fucking game, or at least don't BITCH ABOUT the need to read a text based game.

Then stop bitching about creature's posts

???
Literally a post about how people shouldn't be bitching about Creatures posts.

...

Maybe you'd realize that if you hadn't taken a piece of the post out of context, which, btw, I'd recommend no one do to my posts again. Do not fucking chop my posts up for a quote without making it crystal fucking clear that you are cherrypicking from my words to support whatever statement you're about to make.

-Cerb

You were telling creature to quote wall and ignore the people who would bitch about said quote walls. You are the one who doesn't remember what you were posting.

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because read his posts

Frankly I don't really buy you saying he's "obvtowning it up" tbh, that does not sound like something town!you would say -D

yeah youve only seen town me saying such things one billion times
Ignoring you now because youre annoying me

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youve only seen town me saying such things one billion times

You do realize the -D indicates I'm signing my post as DVa right? I feel like you think you're talking to Nancy rn

oh i did
dva you have like one or two games with me, i really dont care about what your read on me is
People who have like 20 and still cant read me

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hes not town because of "one burst of activity"
Its funny that you think you can assign reasons to my reads on your own

He has only had one burst of activity, therefore any read you are making must come from that burst.
I'll believe it if/when he posts meaningful material for several days.

how are you ok with being so shallow
unbelievable

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Cerb youre still misunderstanding
You said "Make quote walls and people should read them because text game"
Im saying "Then let him post like he is doing now, people should read them because text game"
More clear now?

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dave you just said that because he posted one burst of posts my townread on him has to be based on that burst
Its different townreading him for POSTS he made in that burst and townreading for MAKING the burst, do you realize that?

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ok cerb you were right, i only read that part of that post and wrongly assumed you were also disliking his way.
See what long posts do? I tend to skim them for what catches my eye. Didnt happen with creature's posts.

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if i didnt know dave was always like this id prolly add him to scumlist for failing to understand simple things, but nah

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The edited out part doesnt change the fact youre shallowly looking at vote posts and trying to find reasons
Youre ignoring that lots of players don't give reasons

@dave

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cerb i think i made it clear i thought you were bitching like the others. Its not like i saw you were not bitching yet opted to quote the part that looked like bitching.

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like okay its on me i didnt read the rest of your post but you have to understand my view here
I was reading a thread where everyone was bitching at creature to quotewall
I sae you telling him to quotewall
1+1=2

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sae

saw*

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sigh
good luck with that

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whats certain is you will not get me to explain my reads so im expecting you to sooner or later scumread me because i dont fit in your grand vision where everyone gives reasons for things

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theyre both likely town

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please do. Id love to get a better read on you

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As it stands I don't remember anything you've done

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wow nancy is saying things i agree with

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what about jiffy, do you agree on him

i think jiffy/chick/thor is a good bet

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thor i dont get this aggressiveness towards me
is it because ive caught your buddies?

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Tone seems townie but then there's the misquoting posts he claims he hasn't read fully which is very odd.

what
it sounds like you didnt understand anything about whats happened

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thor i dont get this aggressiveness towards me
is it because ive caught your buddies?

How am I being more aggressive towards you than you are towards me?
Is it because you're scared I'll catch your buddies after I catch you?

Im not aggressive? I just called your reads and vote awful
Meanwhile you take personal stabs at me

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your whole 1544 felt like you had the need to discredit me

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yes and the odd part about that is...?

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i don't get it
sounds like you misunderstood

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what is hard to believe
I saw cerb saying creature should wall post and i lt instantly triggered me

and why is this even a point of discussion
Why would i lie about this

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Both RR and Gamma are currently townreading Creature for his posting and you’re try to make it seem like they aren’t

No im not
What happened was i thought rr was telling creature to wallpost because he also disliked his posting style
Nothing to do with his read on creature
How is gamma relevant

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but a mistake like that is more likely to scum because they tend to skim more.

I said it from the beginning that im skimming long posts
If you want to attribute that to scum then thats on you for making faulty assumptions

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im contemplating replacing out after seeing nero but we'll see

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but of couse you couldn't respect my wishes not to play with you and did it anyway

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ill stay only if you get lynched

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you could have left it at "he cant read me" but you had to attack my skill in general

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oh fuck you bu

i really hope you rolled scum here

replace out

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fuck this

i wont be bullied out of games i want to play

cancel replace out

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VOTE: chickadee

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i dont rep out of games bu

ill just ignore nero

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how do you feel about a chickadee vote?

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correct
but you can find others' reasons for votes there

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i agree with that approach but i favor just leaving her alone for now

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dont meta off single games

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Why does a wisdom/nero scum team suddenly feel so right?

Because you autointerpret whatever you cant understand as scum theatre

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yeah bef joins the scumlist
especially if chick is red

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youre voting her counterwagon

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Because you did it now that chick is gaining support and for a bs reason

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yep
but it could also refer to neighborhoods, masonries, etc

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Idk if you're a counterwagon but bef voting you when you had as many votes as her still counts as voting her counterwagon if that makes sense

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how is he obvtown

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posts like that are totally helping

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who is rushing?

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i know i'm talking about my own slot here but i'd read chick's adamancy as confirmation bias rather than trying to mis-lynch just from how sure it sounds

what is even the purpose of this
You supposedly know your slot is town so why are you guessing about how you would read it

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yes I haven't seen anything worthy of a townread from gamma

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also clemency just avoided my question so i don't see my vote changing

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no you didn't
I asked you why youre guessing how youd read your slot
And you say to prevent a mislynch
Thats certainly not an answer to my question.

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your perspective is to guess how you would read your slot?

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what's the drama between wisdom and nero
i love drama

I scumread him every game and I don't think thats going to change

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So while I think he's still scum I'm fine with consolidating a better Lynch.

I don't get this logic
When we find scum we lynch them, we dont let them live and hope theyll be killed

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boring
lynch clemency

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now im interested in who tails is
off to althunt

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got it
hi again tails

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youre both town guys

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it works on me at least
I dont scumread you on tails

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3 votes

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scumreplacing hurts eh

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you dont need to read
a bunch of people will prolly die anyway

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Anyway, genius DVa already figured out Tails’ alt

yeah that was really hard
Its not like he altslipped or anything

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no it isnt
stop with the useless votes

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hes scumclaiming man
it aint hard

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P.edit. Both Clem’s self-hammer to presumably prevent Toogeloo from hammering, plus Chick’s townread of Toogeloo are pretty damning, when combined together.


VOTE: Toogeloo

Why is the former scum indicative for toogeloo

If anything it looks like clem self hammered so as to not let toog confirm their role

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VOTE: gamma

I recall him not voting clem so he can go

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there are definitely some bussing scum in there as well
bef/alchemist/hebi strike me as that the most looking at the wagon

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Nero is a fine lynch too

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toog is town and hebi is awful

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i think dgb is still town despite this display

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From the offwagons id rather lynch gamma nero or thor
Maybe amzela

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When someone says counter wagon is there any time when you would use that phrase to describe anything other than when you believe scum are directing us away from one of their own?

town use it too when theyre confident

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most likely a jester.

Doubt a jester admits they have to he lynched
More likely a vengeful or something

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so are you claiming antitown

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shes either town gambiting or 3p
no way shes scum just outing herself

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fortian is right just ignore her

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you do know a global doc was used
For all we know there could be lots of deaths

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Yeah? what are you trying to say

nvm i thought you were disagreeing with multiball due to lack of kills
then i reread

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cerb's town guys move on

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Flavor stop making empty posts
who is scum

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because i havent seen reason to townread them

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I think RR is scum

-DV

nope

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If it isn't Buj then it's RCE.
RCE's been slimy all game.

nope

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I think people are underestimating DGB's strategy.

Fortian says she can't endgame but why not? Plenty of people have turned it around near the end.

I think if she is allowed to live she will either effort post a lot to make people rethink or help her team in other ways maybe as a PR.

I think her strategy is brilliant and the only reason why people don't out themselves more often in the early game is because it's scary as hell.

nope

She has no reason to go for this "strategy" unprovoked at this point.
Shes not scum.

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Recap

Good onwagon votes: Alchemist, BEF, Hebi
Good offwagon votes: Gamma, Nero, Thor

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Why the fuck does how you read me depend on your Wisdom read?

because read what you quoted

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after the towny majiffy rage quit.

no
dont read into replace outs

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looks like it

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nero associative that comes to mind is his voting bu

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I've played one game with him

don't meta off single games

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yep
his creature push was bs and so is his current one on you

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going against major crime forces, professional killers, and law enforcement officers alike.

you mean this?

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if youre right and this isnt just flavor, id translate those as "other mafia", "third parties", "town"

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or maybe just self-aware town?

by vengeful i meant town vengeful

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i kinda saw it coming

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pint is town
cheeky is town
both gamma and nero need death

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yeah prolly not gamma/nero based on that

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bu no we aren't doing that
dont make me worry

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stop hunting for 3ps and vote gamma

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liking scum isn't helpful for town

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boo to rr and dgb wagons

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Yo Wisdom my fellow gamma slammer, have we played before?

nope

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i just realized it was gamma and nero i was pushing in coh as well

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We would be well off with a heb lynch today. How many times do I have to hint at it?

i thought it was a soft claim the other time
is it?

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VOTE: hebi

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I dont see a slip. Get back on hebi.

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I dont see a slip. Get back on hebi.

I don’t see a slip either, but Creature’s still scum. He might not have slipped, but I’ll take the wagon.

Read bef's last few posts

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yeh def hebi buddies in there

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because clem had a vt fakeclaim and flipped goon
And hebi is claiming vt

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yeh def hebi buddies in there

Varsoon and Aclem seem the worst to me. Both Cerb and Dave are just do do's.

Alch is a little too blatant

Varsoon I could see

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fl is prolly talking about mala
The flavor sounds like something she did resulted in her death ("tripped and fell")
ie visited a pgo

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nero was almost certainly the antitown death

wish i knew what faction though

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hebi wagon will probably contain all sorts of antitown whod want the free credit

Varsoon, gamma, amzela look the worst on first glance

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If the guilty is not legit then there is something strange going on.

@protective roles
Keep my buddy RCE alive please or whoever you want around. My results could be tainted if heb flips town. Guess we see what I get tonight but if heb somehow flips town then I will only post my result if requested as to not skew peoples SRs.

So...
Who'd you kill?

I was going for RCEnigma.

Maybe one of the dead is a bodyguard who listened to bef and protected rce

But all of this looks weird to me

Why would bef want rce saved
Why would a protective listen to bef
Why would fl shoot rce despite what bef said

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its also the easiest to join
they can safely wagon someone they know isnt aligned with them with little to no explanation