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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Wagonomics, why?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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You know that hing where you look away before you see that someone has ninjaed you, and you need to click again to post, and you don't realize it happened until hours afterward? That happened. I was going to say this:
"I would think this is exactly the type of game a death miller might show up in. Which means it's also the perfect game to fake-claim death-miller. But why would anyone fakeclaim that?
"Does donut invest lineup with flavour though?"
And now I'll read everything else since.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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hing = thing
Nothing else to say, except I agree about the likelihood of the thread becoming long.
Deus homo factus est natura mirante, Mundus renovatus est a Christo regnante.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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That could just mean you have similar personalities. Or maybe you're both scum but on different teams. Or on the same team, and trying to mislead us.In post 75, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Our wavelengths are on point.In post 74, Party Boat wrote:
noIn post 72, CheekyTeeky wrote:Porkens can be town too.
why would you think this
Okay, we can be allies then. I might even unvote you at some point. It's nice to be back for one game.In post 31, Gamma Emerald wrote:Long time no see, dear warrior! I look forward to fighting alongside all my allies and exterminating our enemies. To battle!
VOTE: wagonomics
No room for logic on the battlefield!
Past experience with other games Xyzzy has run with this flavour indicates Multiball is likely. I don't expect this to be particularly similar as it is just flavour, but we've got 24 players, so I highly doubt it isn't multiball. Also, the sample PM says factions plural.In post 82, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
What makes you think this is multiball?In post 42, profii wrote:I am
Ausuka, koki, Vonflare are also here.
Idk, I think we have a lot of players to get through in a month. Maybe multiball will knock the numbers down to balance things out
(I'm not sure we had plain townies in the other Echo Bay game. More evidence this game is nothing like it.)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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'Maybe you're both scum' was a joke. Basically I meant that there was all manner of silly reasons you could be on the same wavelength without even trying to figure out what that wavelength was.In post 96, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok let me put it this way.
I was pinged by Brie's entrance. I continued to observe people to see if anyone else felt the same and it looks like Porkens did.
What makes it towny coming from porkens is the simple naked vote - getting straight down to business and not trying to look overly towny.
Brie's reaction escalated quickly from "it could be a personality thing" to "maybe they're both scum." Under little pressure and with missing logic.
I assumed the vote on me begin earlier and unexplained was just RVS, and didn't even take notice of who it was from.
Note to self: Don't make jokes, because they're never understood.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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In other words, I don't consider a naked vote on page three of a game this size, to have anything serious to do with my single tiny post on page one. I'm surprised you did. That just seems to clutching at threads.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Eh, true. At least you were doing something. I was stringing random stuff together without even a thread, and looking like I had conclusions.In post 100, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why wouldn't it seem like clutching at threads? I literally am as there's nothing else to go off.
Starting a spreadsheet now to keep track of read. Cheeky is Town. What his name who voted me hasn't done enough to be read, and I'll sort everyone else as i feel like it, and whe
The trouble with my jokes, is that people tend to take them seriously. I could try telling real jokes, that are irrelevant to the game, but there's no point in that. So I'll do random Christmas lyrics instead. Which reminds me that I did have posts on page 2 as well which what his name could have read. I don't suppose that was what pinged Cheeky. Because I'm sure my first post was non-pingy. I didn't say enough to be pingy.
Joyful, all ye nations rise
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Two pages ago I was rather liking Varsoon, but now, not so much. His reasoning for not especially hunting in the hood seemed sounds, to me, the stuff about multiball throwing everything offf... Sure he's allowed to dislike multiball, but I'd think he should know how to scum hunt in multiball by now, so it seems rather stupid what he's saying.
You expected the game to be balanced?In post 192, Varsoon wrote:Furthermore, it's PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to balance against the swing inherit in a multiball setup.
I have NEVER seen it done.
I'm liking sheepsaysmeep.
Oh, and does anyone know what Wagonomics is about? His whole wagon value thing just seems weird. Like he's busy playing his own game of randomness on top of the main game. It doesn't give a read either way, but still weird.
Helpless and hungry, lowly, afraid
Wrapped in the chill of midwinter;
Comes now among us, born into poverty’s embrace,
New life for the worldShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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In post 179, Party Boat wrote:
i understood it to be less that varsoon thinks at least one person in there is scum and more that if there is, it'd be bad if people interpreted him not outing it as 'varsoon thinks his neighborhood was town/mostly town' or that the theoretical scum member might try to use his silence to their advantage later if he didn't out itIn post 177, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
this self consciousness that it might be interpreted as lurking sort of bothers meIn post 46, Leodanny wrote:Hi I’m here not lurking just V/LA
and i v read varsoon outing the neighborhood on the belief that at least one of the people in it is a wolf
if leo had proceeded to make like just 1-2 posts after saying it would maybe bother me too but him actively participating while V/LA is pretty decent, even if they're not particularly useful content atm
@xyzzy- i'm voting Wisdom
Agree that's it's not very useful content. It's mostly vague questions. Anyone here played with leo before?
@Vonfalre I understand miller. I understand death miller. But I really don't know what donut invest means? Could you explain?
I'm trying to decide whether it's too weird to be real, or too weird to be made up.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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What does do not invest mean then? Makes a little more sense flavour wise, but mechanically?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Invest = investigate. I shouls have realized that, but instead my mind went to banking. Thanks.In post 225, CheekyTeeky wrote:It means "don't investigate me."
What's WK mean? I've still not got a handle on all the terms people use.In post 241, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Awful posts. Didnt explain the vote on me or why varsoon felt like uncaring town. This could be scum trying to WK varsoon. HmmIn post 222, CheekyTeeky wrote:Varsoon feels like noncaring town. Bad wagon.
Are you say that because you don't think the wagon would get this far with only town, or because you suspect anyone in particular? (oh, cheeky asked while I was writing the post. Well he's a list of who is on the wagon. You're welcome.)In post 245, Wisdom wrote:definitely some scum on this wagon
If I counted right, there's four votes on Varsoon.
Profii didn't have the best reasoning, Sheep is town in my mind, Kokichi I have trouble reading partly because I don't like his name or avatar, or something, I really don't understand it. And Jaylow's vote seemed opportunistic, and it's lacking in reasons. Basically he said Varsoon is responsible for the two things we've talked about.
Field and fountain, Moor and mountain, Following yonder Star.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Is that really your role? On top of the neighbour thing? I am skeptical.In post 200, Varsoon wrote:
'cus I'm awesome and you're meanIn post 197, Kokichi Oma wrote:Yes varsoon. What will you do? Do you know why I voted you?
I dunno man.
It's a 24p game and my role is "You can talk to people privately about smash bros"
like
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Re-reading Profii's argument it sounds better than it had before I think I must have only skimmed it before. I'm not say he's right, but he sounds sort of convincing.
Those of you who bless the poor will yourselves find blessing.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Now white knighting is when as scum you defend a town person, correct? In which case he's sort of claiming Varsoon isn't scum. Not the most coherent argument. And as scum together, I wouldn't see you defending him at this point, not that I can see you as scum right now.In post 257, CheekyTeeky wrote:I don't know why but Kokichi's "I forgot to vote him" is pinging me as uncharacteristic. Not sure I like his reaction - accusing me of WK'ing is pretty funny. Even if it were logical to WK (White Knight @Brie) in multiball I don't see how that benefits my position as scum sticking my neck out that early.
Oh, probably. So you're telling us that sheep's read on you is useless to us then?In post 282, Wisdom wrote:id prolly easily fool sheep as scumShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Me neither. Wagonomics is just weird. I should probably do meta on him.In post 336, Varsoon wrote:Can I get someone to be my vote/wagon broker?
I am not good at playing the markets.
Though I also think sheep is town (Not great town though), Cheeky's townread on porkens was based on one post which only contained a single vote, that lined up with what Cheeky was thinking at time. That's a NAI post, possibly leaning slightly to town, as Porkens did add any kind of excuse and scum tend to that sometimes. Cheeky being right on Porkens seems like dumb luck.In post 308, Nancy Drew 39 wrote: Collapsed to shorten the post.Spoiler:
Cheeky townread Porkens, who was sheep’s predessor and I think sheep is town here.
Hark how the bells, sweet silver bells, all seem to say, throw cares away. Christmas is here, bringing good cheer, to young and old, meek and the bold.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Is that because the people you think are scummy are in the 100s, or because it's better to go for less obvious scum earlier in the game, or some such mechanical thing?In post 337, hebichan wrote:Honestly, I think we should be voting on the 100s.
Merry, Merry, Merry, Merry Christmas, (Merry, Merry, Merry, Merry Christmas)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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And there I go forgetting that wagonomics is a new alt and has no meta.
Ding, dong, ding, dongShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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So that was all nothing? You can't deny that you've been talking about Varsoon and all that. (And if I'm understanding wagon properly, he thinks you're less scummy now.)In post 345, Kokichi Oma wrote:
wth i haven't even done anything so far this game. have i?In post 325, Wagonomics wrote:KokichiCoin has further depreciated in VALUE
What caused more discussion than you thought? I hadn't thought this had spring boarded from anything you said.In post 346, Theta Alpine wrote:wow
that actually caused a lot more discussion then i thought it would
not yet sure about my reads after that though
a little bit tired at the moment so it is a bit hard to put two and two together
however i will say i am slightly town-reading emerald now
emerald appears to be doing some amount of player sorting which at this stage of the game is important
i would also state that party boat is probably town
i believe they are fishing for reactions with those votes
Long lay the world, in sin and error pining.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Is that town above line, and null to scum below the line? I see you've got each section in alphabet order. Theta SK, because she mentioned they might exist? Flavour-wise it does kinda fit, but I hadn't noticed, until I looked with that in mind. I did see someone else mention SKs as a faction. Let me see who...In post 359, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ausuka
Gamma
Hebi
Kokichi
Nancy
Sheep
TheBrie
Varsoon
Vonflare
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Overkill
Edosurist
Jaylow7
Leodanny
Party Boat
Profii
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Singletonking
Theta Alpine (probably SK)
Vaxkiller
Wagonomics
Wisdom
Xtoxm
Overki11
Meant to comment on it at the time, but got distracted by something else. It's significantly after Theta, but doesn't feel like he picked it up from there. it sounds very matter of fact, but still, he was thinking of them, and doesn't arise completely naturally from what sheep said.In post 320, 0verki11 wrote:
You do realise that things like Serial killer are 1 man factions right?In post 265, sheepsaysmeep wrote:that doesnt actually confirm multiball in any way?
it's very technical but that could be translated as "members of any potentially existing opposing factions"
O Sing, choirs of angels, sing in exultation.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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First half of catchup, second coming after lunch.
What concerns you about sheep? I've not looked at his meta, but the one thing I noticed is his reads don't seem the best. Not terrible, but not great. Shorter posts, tending towards short observations, and subtly attempting to stop wagons.In post 362, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Kind of? Like people I wouldn't lynch today and null/can die.In post 361, TheBrie wrote:Is that town above line, and null to scum below the line? I see you've got each section in alphabet order. Theta SK, because she mentioned they might exist?
Yeah the mention and I find some posts awkward so not town. It's still early game though so it's more a note for later. My main concern is not allowing scum above the line - Sheep is probably my biggest concern but I'm going to sheep Nancy's read until I see reason to believe otherwise.
I don't want to drag it out too long, but being quicker isn't likely to push those people to contribute more.In post 374, Gamma Emerald wrote:my problem with waiting for others to contribute is then the more active people clog up the game thread
that's why I advocate for faster early days
Hmm, Emerald is doing lots of taking, but not pushing anything. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll be watching.In post 414, Ausuka wrote:is it just me or does leo wagon feel too easy? it's like everyone in the thread rn agrees on it and he feels like newbie lynchbait. also sounds kinda genuine recently past his obvious tonal wakwardness.
VOTE: gemerald is where i lean so far, i feel like his iso is like trying to produce content to the point where it's not immediately obvious that he isn't, and he definitely has a lot of posts, but most of them feel more like posts for the sake of posting than anything else, like the exchange about cheeky being right about porkens; don't get what that was meant to accomplish and honestly most of his posts don't feel like scumhunting at all, the exception being his recent push on Leo where he first opposes it but then switches and sticks to the anti-leo position hard?
wagonomics account is great honestly and has me pocketed
Oh, and Leo is terrible. Thoughts on alignment coming.
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But Varsoon was arguing against lynching specifically in the neighbourhood. Huh?In post 433, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm caught up. Only thing I didn't really like was Varsoon seemingly wanting to lynch within his neighborhood to find scum... seems like something the scum in the neighborhood would want to do.
Wagonomics can meme thier way to the end of the game for all I care
I think I understood Wagonomics for once. He think the Leo wagon is likely to collapse. And he thinks the V/LA post indicates he might be a 3p. Where did he get that from? All I get is that Leo doesn't seem to care that he's got a whole lot of votes on him. He's got a couple of posts where he actually tries to look useful, but even they fail.In post 467, Wagonomics wrote:
That is the question of the market right now. I believe LeoCoin very well could be a bubble wagon. In general, I do think investing in a bubble wagon is a bad idea, unless you buy early and then sell before the crash. But that sort of behavior also risks a SEC investigation.In post 445, Gamma Emerald wrote:LeoCoin gathering several investors you are predicting it will depreciate. Do you believe it is a bubble wagon? Do you think investing in a bubble wagon is a bad idea? I personally feel diversifying through the day could be good, in which case investing early into a bubble wagon doesn’t seem like a bother to me.
The depreciation of LeoCoin is not purely a result of his current investors but more his response to my observations about his IPO.
His recent V/LA post also seemed like it might not end up a scum flip or a green flip, but perhaps one of those wild card flips whose value is hard to evaluate.
In the event of a scumflip with some real winners, there is always the chance of an SEC investigation.In post 462, Vaxkiller wrote:Also, scum have insider trading, this is bad.
And that's it for now folks, the Conference Call is coming to an end for today. Thank you for your time and questions
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Point 1 about Hebichan was not original, and point 2 is similar to a question I asked. It's all derivative.In post 439, Leodanny wrote:Hey Vax, what do you have to say about your wagon actually being a higher value than mine(according to wagonomics)?
P-edit:
1: Hebichan; in the span of two or three posts, goes from suspecting a one poster to sheeping the person that said they would sheep her, nice one.
2. Varsoon what are you even doing? I can’t understand why your role would just be the ability to speak about Mario without the entire mafiascum community knowing.
Ok thanks stop ninjaing me now
P-edit: why are there more ninjas?!?
Then you've got the voting Kokichi. I can sort of understand why he's voting kokichi over wagonomics, in that he think he was aiming for someone with a similar activity level to his who also hasn't done much. Wagon has significantly less posts. But once again, I think it's an attempt to look like he's doing something, and he failed. Though Kokichi weirdly said he'd not done anything, he's contributed more than Leo.
We can't do much with Leo while he's V/LA though, so I'm going to go look at some other people for a day or two. Though I'll be on less myself due to the weekend. And then we can come back to Leo. We mustn't let him off our radar just because he disappears for a couple days.
Gloriahhh! Gloria! Gloriahhhh!ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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He one of those players who looks like he's messing around, but actually gets stuff done, right? Because he'd not really struck me as towny, but the solvey stuff is there if I squint. And I'm sure you're not all three scum, so I'm going to borrow the read. Theta read him as town too, according to my notes.In post 492, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I feel good about him being town. He’s been pretty solvey so far, don’t you think?In post 440, CheekyTeeky wrote:I expect PB to obvtown at some point.
Pretty sure the vote on sheep was RVS, and he's been to lazy to move it. He said there was no reason in his third post. Agree on the shading Varsoon though. Completely inaccurate.In post 510, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Vax and Ausuka are also pinging me. I don’t like her Wagonomics’s honesty comment, it didn’t really make too much sense to me, and Vax, keeps shading Varsoon, yet voteparked on sheep - and has yet to give even a single reason for voting him.
Ausuka's Wagonomics comment read like she just meant she loves him, and is aware that she's unlikely to lynch him whatever. And the comments about Emerald are kind of convincing to me. I keep trying to find a flaw in them, say they're overstating it, but then I ISO Emerald and little things ping me, and I find myself not wanting to unvote.
Emerald is just discussing everything, and responding to everything, and asking all the questions. And he's good at it. But he really could get more done.
Shepherds, why this Jubilee?(Yes, I'm having too much fun with this.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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I still have a definite town lean. As for which reads, I was mostly going off a an earlier impression, but I think I've found it again.In post 514, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
@thebrie have you made a conclusion based off of these observations you have? i cant actually tell what read you have hereIn post 511, TheBrie wrote:What concerns you about sheep? I've not looked at his meta, but the one thing I noticed is his reads don't seem the best. Not terrible, but not great. Shorter posts, tending towards short observations, and subtly attempting to stop wagons.
also can you talk about which reads in particular
You vote on Varsoon felt a bit weak here. You didn't say why you were uncomfortable.
And it's a little odd in light of this earlier post. You seemed to be agreeing with Varsoon stance then. Granted this is ISO, and I'm not lookinjg at what Varsoon might have done in between.In post 217, sheepsaysmeep wrote:so im basically caught up
it was a quick skim with breaks in between so i prolly missed things but theres a depressingly low amount of exciting things actually happening and all of my thoughts on players are weaker than i'd like
stronger reads that i feel ok with rn are vonflare, cheeky as villagers and pretty uncomfortable with varsoon
VOTE: varsoon
have some iso's that i want to look at later once school is out
In post 209, sheepsaysmeep wrote:fwiw i usually just find hoods nai outside of the rare case of clearing someone in a confirmed hood where everyone else has already flipped scum
lynching inside of that hood is likely a bad idea or just not worth the risk
While here's something I noticed, because I'm thinking along those lines myself now. You picked up on Gamma Emerald (At least I think that's who you mean by Gamma), not actually being very solvey. What's your opinion on him now?
(Oh, and you do explain Varsoon here, to so i kind of get it. Most of what I said was becasue I was trying to figure out why Cheeky would be less confident about you.)In post 243, sheepsaysmeep wrote:looking at postcounts this game, gamma and varsson lead substantially yet (acknowledging that i rushed my read and prolly glossed over quite a bit) i remember no real solving content from either of them which is a pretty good simplification of my varsoon w read
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The post was a little confusing, but more in a 'sheep just isn't very coherant' manner than a scummy manner. I don't think Varsoon is as bad as I think sheep is trying to make out, but the point that we shouldn't just forget about him when he went quiet under pressure is good. Varsoon honestly hasn't really scum hunted. And now he says he's not going to be very active.In post 530, hebichan wrote:
So no reason not to kill it then?In post 523, Wisdom wrote:potato = newbscum
I can very well see sheep being scum too. His latest posts seem really panicky when brought up against Varoon there, and that large post of his basically made no sense to me, dunno if it did for anyone else.
How did Varsoon react poorly to pressure, sheep?
VOTE: Sheep
I don't think people were jumping wagons to shift attention off Varsoon though. Leodanny made his wagon appear by being terribly without any external interference.
Yes, sheep is confusing. Trying to analyze his post makes me sound confusing too.
Is there really anything Leodanny could do or say at this point that would make people not want to vote him? And if not, is that entirely a good thing? I'm pretty ready to lynch him, but there's a part of me that hates the idea of anyone being doomed even in mafia. Unless they've done something interesting to doom themselves. Whatever. I'll do it.
VOTE: Leodanny
L-2
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Leo, just try to tell us what you think about someone. I actually like your Emerald vote, but you must have thoughts on other players, and just because you're voting someone I have a small scum lean on doesn't mean you're not scum. That's exactly what I would do as scum in your position.
As for Varsoon, right now I'm just getting bored, and really not trying. Especially if it's true that he's usually more aggressive as scum. I can't scum read him just for not doing much that's really useful if that's not his general scum play.
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About Gamma Emerald, I've said he's not really scum hunting or pushing anything despite all his posts, and he could do more as town. But he could also do more as scum. It's been too long since i've played with him, or really anyone here, for me to have a good handle on his play style.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Well why weren't you giving us your townreads? Why weren't you saying that before we pushed you about it?In post 718, Leodanny wrote:
My word choice really needs to be better.In post 701, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Because he asked you for reads. Why would you react so strongly to that?In post 680, Leodanny wrote:Isn’t town implied?
Why do you see one “hell no” as overreacting?
Why can’t it be both a sheep and OMGUS?
It could be but you still haven’t given a reason for it but it’s your refusal to give reads, is the more concerning part of it. Why would you be opposed to that?
Anyway, what I meant was I didn’t have three reads, I have too many townreads. Not that I wouldn’t give him my reads.
I've never seen Leo before this game. So that ain't why he trusts me.In post 737, Party Boat wrote:mmk
why do you trust Ausuka and TheBrie? Do you think they've done things that looked particularly town or do you have previous experience playing with them?
That's how I was reading Wagonomics too. Though there's no coin to get.Leodanny wrote:Vote big numbers, get much coin
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That actually makes sense. Wow. Much claps.In post 757, Wagonomics wrote:So far the representative for VaxCoin has invested in SheepCoin and VarsoonCoin, neither of which are properties I see as particularly promising. His joke posts about post numbers did make me somewhat wonder, since I have seen Low-Value VaxCoin make similar jokes in the past, but overall I would say VaxCoin still has significant investment potential.
And Vax is definitely someone to watch. Not really scum yet, but not getting strong town feels.
As for Jaylow, that post was terrible, but I'm not lynching anyone for a single post. I'll give him a second chance to hang himself, or not. Of course if he doesn't take it, and turns into a permanent lurker... Well, we'll see what happens.
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I also don't see Theta counterclaiming as scum. Unless Theta felt certain that Leo was giving a fake claim, which scum wouldn't.
I don't trust the neighbourhood.
That does not sound like something one says about a fellow mason. I suppose it's not 100% confirmed that all masons are town, but I don't think this game is that screwy.In post 566, Xtoxm wrote:L-2 already? That's not what this game is about guys!
If I die n1 look into Varsoon I'm not explicitly townreading him here
I still am inclined to trust Nancy though. Nancy, is the neighbourhood a masonry?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Is that supposed to be a list of scum?
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So you want Wagon to be able to vig someone?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Lynching Gamma doesn't sound like the worst idea ever. Rest of those reads: similarish to mine. Leaning less scum on Kokichi yet because I really don't know how to read him yet. And a less town on Heib, and even Ausuka. And regarding Nancy, I still need to figure out what's going on with the neighbourhood. Xtoms (I know that's not spelled right) posts are not all consistent with it being a masonry as he and Varsoon claim.In post 905, Edosurist wrote:Meh, let's lynch Gamma.
Other possible scum include Vax and Kokichi.
Town include Nancy Drew, Hebi and Ausuka.
I'm slightly lean-town on Wisdom and Varsoon now.
I don't think the profii kill was from town, but the Cheeky one potentially was. I still doubt it cuz my bet's on multi-ball.
Profii kill was odd because he'd not done much besides vote Varsoon early on. No one really had reason to be afraid of him. And Cheeky? You think town killed Cheeky? Scum killing Cheeky makes sense.
Nollaig shona dhaoibh. Merry Christmas to you all. I probably won't be back for some days, unless I get too bored.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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I think that makes sense. I think we''l have to kill Theta sometime, but not today. However, if she is town, scum would certainly rather let us lynch her, than have to kill her themselves. And I don't know how that might influence their play. So I really don't know.In post 1028, Trekkie99 wrote:
This lynch is unnecessary. If theta is town she will be killed soon enough by scum because of her claim, and if she's scum then we'll have a more concrete read on her if she's still alive in the next day or two because obviously scum can't kill their teammates (of course that is unless this is indeed multiball).In post 894, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Theta
While his CC was odd I really feel like we need to follow this other wise we set a bad precendent, plus if we’re wrong it says a lot about the setup
Prod received. I've just been taking a few days off to get my mind in order for the next year, and to relax with family. I have not yet read anything past the post I'm replying to. I'll read it at post something later. Still feeling overwhelmed by the year ending, and the new years plans I'm supposed to be making, and the awesome philosophy books I'm reading.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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My comment of when to lynch Theta was strangely relevant considering I hadn't read recently. As a btw, my general feeling on Theta was town, but continuing to assume town as the game goes on, is too high a risk. The reason I think it was a genuine CC, is because Leo probably would have been lynched without it, so scum wouldn't be stupid enough to CC. Unless it's some weird town-cred gambit, that i really don't see coming from Theta.
I like trekkie's entrance and analysis, though he does seem to have been a bit stuck on getting that answer from Emerald. Agree about Vonfalre's claim seeming genuine.
I'm was liking Kokichi better than I did before, as he's at least doing a good job of explaining some of his actions. But reading the older posts makes me doubt again. It's interesting to note that Sheep is defending him now, and they were town reading each other on the previous day. They were both talking about Leo a lot, but didn't really interact with each other much.
Xtoxm hasn't really explained why he thinks Kokichi is scum, or why anyone is on his purge list. His play style annoys me. And Varsoon is just sheeping xtoxm.
I still am confused by both of them claiming the neighbourhood is a masonry, and Nancy saying that it's not.
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Oh, and Jaylow is certainly not improving. Where is that catchup?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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I 100% believe you. But what do you think about of Varsoon and xtoxm claiming it is? Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that this disagreement is here, and I don't know why.
If I understand you correctly, you'd rather lynch a lurker than a scummy (or not so scummy) player? The wording was just slightly unclear.In post 1126, Party Boat wrote:uuugh it feels like there's six-seven people trying to play a 20 player game
friends please come in and do things
I'm frankly pretty fine not lynching either of Gemerald or Kokichi over a lurker atm, esp. Jaylow (and I feel that wagonomics is pretty town and from his lurkercoin list Edo also feels like a fine choice)
Agree, though what Gamma is doing amounts to little more than nothing.In post 1118, light_ganski wrote:
This pretty much wrt varsoon lynch > gamma lynchIn post 1115, sheepsaysmeep wrote:at least what gammas doing wrt theta
rarely every vote there while varsoon is literally just skating by doing nothing
You're reading people as scum, just because they get a bad feeling about you, and it's too hard to work with them? Seriously? That's not a real read. Are you every trying to convince anyone?In post 1123, Xtoxm wrote:
im just gonna put you in the scum pool this game because i feel like trying to work with you will not be worth the headacheIn post 1119, light_ganski wrote:
this gives me super bad vibesIn post 1057, Xtoxm wrote: my neighbors can be spared the purging as i would like to play my role, but yes i am aware scum exists in there
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True. But I find Xtomx extremely annoying. I've go the impression (From his sig, and other peoples relations, too lazy to do meta), that this isn't out of character for him as town. I don't like him, I don't like how he sheeps Varsoonj, i cannot get into his head. But Varsoon is scummier. And Jay is scummier. A replacement there would probably just cause insurnaces. But as someone said, active is better. Or worse.In post 1197, sheepsaysmeep wrote:is a varsoon/xtoxm team too easy
because it feels too obvious but not relaly too obvious to be true idk
UNVOTE:
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This whole thing makes Vax look bad because he came out of basically lurking to follow this claimed result very eagerly. I don't blame him for following it, as I was half convinced by Varsoon as I read it. It was well done, the fact that he has lying low could explain any prior inconsistencies, and the explanation that he was sheeping xtomx just o see what his reaction was. That's still the most reasonable explanation for that sheeping. But actually claiming his role didn't sound so convincing. Which is why he pulls back and calls it a gambit. If he'd not pulled back, I might have ended up voting sheep, because though I've generally been TRing there, Sheep does have problems, and there's truth to those arguments. (Someone will ask me what that truth is, I'll post it later sometimes.)
Anyway back to Vax, I thinks it's more that he became active here that what he actually said. Timing, not tone. He came and jumped on a potentially easy wagon. Tone doesn't seem scummy. Not that I'd call myself a great reader of Vax machines.
Now with Varsoon replacing out, and why, it gives a tonier feel to him. Not sure that to do with that.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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You saying you don't think Gamma is a good wagon, but you'd still lynch there because other's don't like him?In post 1387, sheepsaysmeep wrote:gamma wagon is a big nah but would lynch with 4 people disliking that slot rather than a 2 posterShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Oh, I did mean scum reading. sheep is prepared to vote a wagon they don't think is good, just because of the scum reads of others. That's what I thought they were saying.In post 1398, Vaxkiller wrote:Considering they referred to the slot rather than the person, I would think disliking meant scum reading.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Been busy. Work, life, I'm tired. Read to the bottom of page 58. Will finish catch, up but probably not all today, as I've still got things that ought to be done. Gut likeing Flavour feaf for now. Should do meta on Trekkie. I alread ythough town there, and this confirmation seems good, whatever Flavours alignement.
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PSA: People who clean carsw before selling them are good for the world. People who don't make somone else annoyed. I shouldn't complain, because I'm getting paid, but still...ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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End of 59. I see good points here. And if I hadn't mentioned, I'm reading PB as town.
Or, and relating to something Flavour said mentioning Wisdom, what do people think of Wisdom? He's been less noticeable in this game, than I'm accustommed to. I'm not used to forgettign he's there. And when I remeber that worries me. While usually he just worries me in general.In post 1468, Party Boat wrote:
actually i have one more thing I want to add to thisIn post 1466, Party Boat wrote:Flavors posting has been fine so far but I don't see anything that couldn't come from scum just genuinely looking for another scumteam
I can elaborate on this later if anyone wants but I really really dislike varsoon trying to excuse his earlier lurking/bad play with the cop claim when he was claiming it, and considering how adamant he seemed about sheep being scum and that his reason for claiming it was 'proving me wrong' about people being willing to vote sheep I really don't see why sheep claiming vanilla would give varsoon a town read on him - I think it's more likely that varsoon originally thought sheep was probable other scumteam and the unvote after the unclaim was just to try to stay alive when his claim started to fall apart.
Most of the Varsoon/Gemerald conversation right as varsoon replaced out I think WAS genuine on varsoon's part but was also based on shit that is not relevant to varsoon's alignment (varsoon being genuinely upset about gemerald's 'as a person you're worse than me' comment)
Like the only reason I think could be legit to read varsoon as town for replacing out there is just: it would be shitty of varsoon to botch a fakeclaim as scum and then dump it on a replacement.
But I also think regardless of his alignment that varsoon has both not really been into this game and didn't want to deal with Gemerald negatively, and I kind of doubt he'd take this into serious consideration compared to those first two things but he also could have thought as scum that he was almost certainly going to get lynched for fakeclaiming and botching it if he stayed in the game but there'd be a reasonable chance of a replacement turning things around for his playerslot/team.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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End of 61. The more Flavour insists he's obv town, the more suspicuoius I feel. On the other hand, He's got good points here, and my town read on Ganski is crumbling to pieces.
He's right, these reads, especially now, which is some hundreds of posts later, don't hold together. Ganksi's been quiet lately.In post 1514, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Puts Varsoon, Vonflare, and a lurker as the scum, and then has xtoxm, Gamma, and party in lean scum.
Vonflare is lynchbait, party vs Varsoon are going at each other while in same neighborhood, xtoxm doesn’t make sense as scum with varsoon, that’s way too buddy buddy, and Gamma is the counter wagon.
VOTE: Light
I’m going to here. I await your response.
This game moves slow, so off wagonning, and conterwagonning, wouldn't happen at the usual rate.In post 1515, Flavor Leaf wrote:Although, I feel Sheep has scum claimed this game by staying on me, but yeah.
Sheep knows more than anyone in this game how controlling I can get as scum.
This wagon would not still be on me, or there would already be a counterwagon by now if I was scum.
When Sheep and I were scum together, I stated every little thing to him to help and try and benefit us all, including putting together a fake claim with wording, so he knows how controlling I can get as scum when in less than desirable positions.
On top of this, I know the majority of the players in this game and a scum hasn’t flipped yet. This implies I don’t have scum partners helping me out. You wanna know who doesn’t have scum partners? Town!
And I don't understand the last paragraph at all. Why does no scum having flipped yet, mean Scum!flavour couldn't have scum partners helping him out? I don't get it.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Well, I did get through it all. Actually an example of poor life choices, as my blog post is a month overdue, but whatev. This is tired Brie posting. Like nealry falling slepp. And I've heard my person type act sort of druck when tired. Not that I can compare.
The Cohesion and sheeping was weird, but too weird for a scum team. Scum mates don't act like that. I think.In post 1580, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
ive been pushing xtoxm/varsoon for a whileIn post 1573, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1571, sheepsaysmeep wrote:im like 95% sure that xtoxm/leaf are wolves rn though
individually both scummy but associations look terribly w/w esp with varsoon
honestly it feels correct for the lynch today to be inside us 3
In what world do Varsoon/Xtoxm act the way they do together as W/W.
That’s scum you trying to connect multiple of us together to set up a multiple mislynch path.
You are bringing up Xtoxm now as a scape goat to get the Sheep vs Flavor relief.
the cohesion between the two was out of nowhere but super apparent and it felt like they were two different slots but acting like a hydra and very unnatural
Good point. But I'll grant that though I was stuck on the neighbourhood/masonry claim thing, I really wasn't thinking about how that meant you could talk where we couldn't see.In post 1583, Xtoxm wrote:
varsoon outed the hood at the start specifically so people could account for unnatural cohesion between hood membersIn post 1580, sheepsaysmeep wrote:the cohesion between the two was out of nowhere but super apparent and it felt like they were two different slots but acting like a hydra and very unnatural
but you failed to take it into account in your read
because your read on our slots is fake
also failed to take into account our game history + friendship
Why so obv? Or are you say back then he was obv, so now he... what are words again?In post 1596, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Sheep is clearly obtvtown here. I’m not liking the pushes on him.In post 1173, Party Boat wrote:tbh I feel Xtomx just coming in and saying something most people disagree with and then leaving again is townier than what varsoon's doing atm
a lot of it is b/c I have way higher expectations for varsoon than the borderline nothing he's done this game since early d1 but like I very much expected varsoon to actually have shit to say about the game by this point
Mmm hmm. As I said, if you were active, I'd be worrying for reason. Cause you Wisdom.
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Why's everyone have to get mad at everyone? 'm really not liking people replacing out. The more the Flavour Nancy altercation heated up, the less I knew what to do with either of them. Cannot read anymore.
I like Jingle and Saudade's entrances. I think I'll just forget about Jaylow for a bit, and read them each as new player. Possibly better for my sanity. Have a better feeling about Jingle, though that might be an avatar thing. (It's a nice Avi. The old one always made me stupidly dislike him.)
I'm having trouble following Flavour when it comes to Gamma Emerald. Her was solidly town reading him, then just switched to scum reading him, and I can't see why. (Unless sometimes he meant PB when he said Gamma, and I don't think that's what's going on.)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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And now I'm letting Nancy and Flavour persuade me that they're both town here. Gamma town, Jingle town, liking Saudade less, but I can't even make an argument that convinces me there. Except for the Jaylow thing which was a scummy entrance.
Sheep, Sheep is too much to think about. Purrocet has always rubbed me the wrong way, but I'm 90% certain it's due to post style. Kokichi and Theta are to be left until tomorrow. Xtomx, sort of wish he was still replacing out because I can't read him. (hmm, strategically not replacing out. Mostly kidding.)
I''m just tired and don't feel like killing people right now. And I can't remember the other players. There's Wisdom, and is there anyone else? Oh, Ausuka I think. Dunno about Ausuka. So basically anyone who's struck me as scummy I can't trust my reads on.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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What's your arguments for Gamma and Sheep? You might be able to convince me since I'm not voting anywhere else.In post 1899, Trekkie99 wrote:Thank God for deadlines in normal games...
At this point I'm in for lynching gamma or sheep but not flavor. I like having him around
Also, there's too many people in this game. I've got a town read on Trekkie, but I kinda forgot his existence...ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Naaah.In post 1978, Vaxkiller wrote:Conspiracy theory:
Xtom rescinded their replacement request because the entire scum team replaced out, but he likes the new scum team replacements.
Prodge post here. Busy weekend, life, stupid stuff.
I don't think I mentioned Vax in my lasts reads (or lack of them) post. I'd been uncomfortable with him earlier, but I liked his tone when he was interecting with Varsoon. (Though the timing was bad. Lately, not so great.
Also, what happened to Theta? We said Theta would be self resolving, but with so much else going on... I don't know what scum will do if Theta is town, and I'm worried about why Theta has been inactive. Probably lack of interest, but Theta, if you're town, do come be helpful.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Actually on Vax, he seems kinda careless and guileless, but his votes are all of the place, and he's not hanging onto consistent thoughts. Which still doesn't mean scum. Bother. i was oping I'd find a better reason to vote him. Better than Nancy, Ausuka and oh, someone else, also voting him.
And looking deeper his hard TRing Flavour, then changing to voting him does make sense, but Flavour wagon wasn't going anywhere, so he's gone somewhere more useful.
Nancy, you quoted two posts from Vax, when you voted him, but you didn't give an explanation. Why do you think he's scum? It's not because he's voting your precious sheep?
(Granted, the post hwere he vote's sheep is one of his worst.)
Vax, why are you voting sheep? And why do you think Gamma's vote on you was bad? (Other than it being on you, and you being firmly convinced of your own innocence. (Or faking it. Take your pick.))
Gamma is actually doing stuff to push the game forward. Trying to get people to vote (Which I'm still not) and I think he's town.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Also, why do people think Xtomx said this?
Xtomx, what do you think of vaxcoin now, and why did you think it crashed? (Higher values equal scummier right?)In post 1576, Xtoxm wrote: when are getting a new wagon value chart btw
i feel like the value of vaxcoin crashed a few pages back
(Came back to find I'd not posted this last night. I've not read anything since my last post.)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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I did not say I was scum reading you for voting Vax. I'm not even hard towning Vax. I was just saying that I needed to find myself a stronger reason to vote Vax, than sheeping people I think a kind of townie.In post 2005, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:P.edit. Just reread your post, it seems that your main reasons for scumreading me, Ausuka and ___ are our votes on Vax? How is that ever a good reason to scumread anyone?
I may be hard townreading sheep but unlike you, I’m not making the bizarre illogical leap, that all votes on him, are necessarily scummy.
I could also vote Gamma or put my vote back on Saudade or maybe even you because I find your Vaxwagon=scum, very concerning.
(Still haven't read the rest of the game. Long day of work tomorrow, but I'll try to get it all read in the next 24h.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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I said the sheep vote was bad. I didn't say that made sense. His interaction with Flavour, makes sense looking from a certain angle. And i do tend to play Mafia by making a hypothesis about someone's actions, then seeing which one fits what i actually see best. 'cept sometimes I really can't tell which story in more reasonable.In post 2004, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
He makes a post that tin foiling about the entire scumteam being replaced and then he votes sheep. How does this make any sense to you at all?In post 2002, TheBrie wrote:Actually on Vax, he seems kinda careless and guileless, but his votes are all of the place, and he's not hanging onto consistent thoughts. Which still doesn't mean scum. Bother. i was oping I'd find a better reason to vote him. Better than Nancy, Ausuka and oh, someone else, also voting him.
And looking deeper his hard TRing Flavour, then changing to voting him does make sense, but Flavour wagon wasn't going anywhere, so he's gone somewhere more useful.
Nancy, you quoted two posts from Vax, when you voted him, but you didn't give an explanation. Why do you think he's scum? It's not because he's voting your precious sheep?
(Granted, the post hwere he vote's sheep is one of his worst.)
Vax, why are you voting sheep? And why do you think Gamma's vote on you was bad? (Other than it being on you, and you being firmly convinced of your own innocence. (Or faking it. Take your pick.))
Gamma is actually doing stuff to push the game forward. Trying to get people to vote (Which I'm still not) and I think he's town.
And why are Ausuka and me in particular, good votes?
Because I’m good at reading sheep off of meta and therefore don’t want to lynch one of my strongest townreads? Yeah, I can see why you’d find that suspicious.
(I really better read everything before I make more posts, but I probably will find something else to respond to.)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Knew I should have read more before responding. Exactly what I meant. Apology accepted. I was starting to feeling like you were misrepping me.In post 2009, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Actually, did I misconstrue your post? You meant better reasons to vote Vax, not that his voters were scum? If so, sorry about that and scumread on you retracted.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Oh, wait there wasn't that many posts to read. Sorry for the block of posts. Gammas' claim is interesting. I'm inclined to believe him. But i need sleep. (nearly 11pm)ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Sort of. But then she reassures me. Currently I feel good on Nancy.In post 2069, Flavor Leaf wrote:Does anyone else have any mad paranoia with Nancy slot?
That's a really stupid post to make. Are you trying to get blocked? If I was a role blocker, I'd be tempted to do it. Probably wouldn't in the end, but I can't know. And activating night 2 doesn't make sense. Sounds like the weirdest IC ever. I'm suspicious. (But there's the fact that fake claiming IC is a strange and deadly gambit balancing out my skepicism.)In post 2044, Kokichi Oma wrote:My ic activates at night and reveals day 3. Dont block me n2 just in case
I like you're analysis of Nancy.In post 2050, Party Boat wrote:aight nancy next
so if you made me guess now I'd say I think Nancy's town but I think that her playstyle (overly emotional, tons and tons of kind of Frozen-angel esque posts) is really hard for me to read, especially early game.
Like her posts are a little light on content/depth but are generally fine-good imo, it just feels like she's playing in a very different way than I do in that it feels like she's kind of making in-game friends/enemies and then sticking to them for a bit rather than separating out people's content/appeals to her from whether or not she thinks they're likely scum and though I think the tone and general reactions to things feel more town than not, I'm not going to be confident in her being town until there are a few more flips and I can separate out some of her interactions into *her talking to town* and *her talking to scum* and see if they look different.
TheBrie:
I don't really like her #560 post about not wanting to vote a 'doomed' player even though she thinks leo is scum. I feel like her push on varsoon feels like scum pushing someone they know is scum for towncred? Like most of my read on her is just that a lot of her posts feel posturey and it's really hard to tell if she believes in anything she's saying given that she hasn't voted anyone in like a week. She def. took her time in Echo Bay Grits to shoot if I'm remembering that correctly so it's not really out of character for her to waffle about stuff like this I think. I do think her reads are alright from what I remember? But she also was very willing to shrug off previous scumreads (varsoon and jaylow/saul in particular, of which maybe I'm wrong on one but I REALLY think at least one of those two is scum) basically just for them replacing out (viewtopic.php?p=10642554#p10642554 for varsoon, also said she'd just give saul a pass and forget that jaylow was in slot later on).
She just has tons of things that feel more like commenting on the game rather than trying to solve it and I think that's a little more likely to come from scum. I WOULD really like to see her boldly put out a lengthy readslist with reasons considering that it feels like she's waffling on everyone in the game right now though.
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is a SNEAKY MOFO as I know from echo bay grits but her scumreads are good and her towniest reads are good and her reactions to in-game things are good
she just needs to post like literally twice as much for me to be comfortable calling her town or she's maybe just scum posting legit thoughts but lurking most of the time because it's the best scum strat in the game
I'd say more likely town than not but POST plz my friend I beg of u
I said Id' temporarily ignore the fact that Saudade was Jaylow, but in practice, I've not forgotten, and Saudade is making me a little uncomfortable, and I probably should vote there. Waffling is something i pretty much always do. Pick any game, town or scum.
Waffling comes from a mix of hard to read players, my town reads not agreeing, and not playing a proper game since May. Most recent games are this one as a VT: viewtopic.php?t=76400&f=54&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go
And this one as scum: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=76380
And Red Flag as scum lynched D1. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=75952ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Why is Party Boat scum?In post 2093, Xtoxm wrote:what you have to remember, jingle, is that party boat is scum, and everything he says is bullshit.
i had a bromance with varsoon in the hood.
who btw was townreading me and hes a better authority on my alignment than anyone in this game, and probably anyone on site that hasnt quit.
everything else is pretty much in both places i think.
I don't trust you or Varsoon, so that's not going to convince me you're not scum. Maybe he can read you, but though Flavour is working into my confidence currently, I'm doing nothing with that read, except to possibly draw connections between you two. What Flavour is saying about you defending him not making sense from scum does make sense. You two don't look like scum together, so i suppose I'll have to call you town.
Why do I keep attempting to trust people i like? As i said before, Vax looks kinda guileless. But that's because he doesn't seem to know whats going on, and claims he would be paying more attention as scum. Why do i trust him there?
This is currently Gamma Vs. Vax. Both of which I've had uneasy thoughts on. I'd still like to believe Theta's claim, and trust those who say Theta wouldn't fake CC (on that matter, not saying I trust them period). Yet, I don't really see Gamma fake claiming either. If felt townie. Interestingly my early doubt about Gamma, thoughts about how he was only looking like he was doing something were started my Theta. Theta couldn't have known that Gamma would be sort of CC the CC she'd not yet given, so that gives me nothing. Probably just coincidence. Gamma doesn't feel like scum paranoid of being lynched though, nor like he's actually trying to push a wagon on Theta. Though possible because it wouldn't move. Still why fake CC Theta if it's not likely to go anywhere?
VOTE: VaxShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Is Vax town just because a wagon wouldn't be forming on ScumVax, or is there some other reason for your read that I missed.In post 2100, Flavor Leaf wrote:Vax is locktown. ScumVax wouldn’t be getting rung up here.
Where's your Ausuka read come from?In post 2133, Party Boat wrote:also jingle if you wanted me dead before wait til you read this
now that we have what seems to be just about an ACTUAL FUNCTIONING GAME I'm gonna start jumping between wagons on my scumreads for a bit in the hopes of making an actual wagon happen that can in turn make things happen in the game
So everyone plz pretend that my vote is on all of Flavor/Saud/Ausuka for right now because it might as well be
VOTE: Saudade
Yay, Mastina. (Do I know how to read Mastina from experience? Nope. Do I feel confident that Mastina couldn't trick me? Nope) But I like Mastina, liked the entrance, and I already had Theta as a town read.In post 2134, xyzzy wrote:mastina replaces Theta Alpine! wow no more replacementsever*
*I can dream(Do I feel confindent that no one could trick me? No, that would be stupid.)
Single hasn't really done much at all. Actually one of the players I've kind of forgotten about. I suppose scum could be hiding there.In post 2158, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why is single scum? Don’t understand Ausuka either but I really don’t get the single sr?
We're going to miss you Nancy. Also are you now implying that you do think Flavour is scum? Because it sounded kinda like that, and it would be nice to know what you're thinking.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Good point. Also for what it's worth, Profii had Nancy, sheep and Gamma as TRs here:=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic. ... 05343 #365In post 2126, Enter wrote:124 makes profii look bad...
profii is dead... that makes varsoon look bad
Just did ISO on Hebichan. Leaning town, but hard to read. His jumping back on the Leo wagon wasn't the best (Like what he said about it before he did it), but a lot of us made mistakes on Leo. What hebi was was kinda lazy. Which i get the feeling in Hebi style. It's take someone who knows him to read him.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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Do you have an argument, or are you just being silent Wisdom and expecting us to figure it out, or not. Cause if we can't see why Ausuka is scummy, it's not your fault.
Stupid broken link in my last post.ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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What actually does that mean? You get along?In post 2206, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Probably, but like I said, he's my Ryan.In post 2204, Wagonomics wrote:Saudade is a more promising investment than Light, I think.
(I really don't get references. You wouldn't get mine if I made them.)
And I agree with Wagonomics here. Saudade has the Jaylow, scummy posts, and his own haven't made me think better of him. While Ganski's posts... There's certainly something in what you said, but not quite to the same degree. Actually to be honest, i kinda just like Light as a player, for reasons outside of this game. Probably the other Echo Bay game in which i can't remember her alignment. So objectively, there's not much difference. I still have my scummy feelings about Vax, but your and Wisdom's insistence that he's town is wearing me down there. He's not going today. But it's better to vote after sleep when I'm less tired. So in the meantime, uou didn't really answer my question about why you say Vax is town. Ts it just that scum Vax wouldn't be getting wagoned?ShowWas once the mistress of contingency plans. Finding all the wrong answers along with the right ones since December 2016.
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