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Btw rce are you are different person to rc? I had assumed you were an alt or hydra of hisSmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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This is rather against the spirit of the game don't you think.In post 279, Karmeleon wrote:We should vote as normal and do a votecount every like two pages.
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I actually don't think that would be as bad as you appear to think. Scum can't really pool votes without looking super obvious about it. But, come end of day people will be declaring who their vote is on, no doubt.In post 285, Karmeleon wrote:
So you mean the correct play is not explicitly saying who you want to lynch the most and let plurality luck do everything?In post 284, Xtoxm wrote:
This is rather against the spirit of the game don't you think.In post 279, Karmeleon wrote:We should vote as normal and do a votecount every like two pages.
I need to know who's the spotlight.
Literally doing our own vcs and wagoning in the normal way though, isn't something I'm interested in here.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I haven't really thought about it. D1 in large games is always a mess anyway.In post 300, profii wrote:
how do you see the game panning out and town getting their hands on precious info? I take the point on spirit of the game but any info is good info i thinkIn post 297, Xtoxm wrote:Literally doing our own vcs and wagoning in the normal way though, isn't something I'm interested in here.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Alonzo wanting to end the day early is a little suspect.- Emperor flippyNips
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No it wouldn'tIn post 590, Something_Smart wrote:It's almost certainly a bad idea to end the day this early.
But it would be very interesting to see where everyone puts their vote when they don't think anybody's watching.
Half the town would be caught by surprise not voting and there would be a low threshold plurality lynch
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well, i haven't been looking at you twos interaction very closely, but i havent found you scummySmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Elsa is my first townread
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@knight, pls change not voting category to unknown. You are putting fake claims in everyone's mouth. Thanx.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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No worries bro.In post 907, The Last Knight wrote:
I was just c+p a template. Not trying to make claims about that. Fair point though. Feel free to edit and post in the future. I'll be more aware of it from now on.In post 904, Xtoxm wrote:Elsa is my first townread
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@knight, pls change not voting category to unknown. You are putting fake claims in everyone's mouth. Thanx.
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i have no opinion on any of those people. and therefore do not oppose their lynches. i thought you might like to know this.In post 1068, DrewVa wrote:
Talk to me about 2, 9, 19 and 21, Thanks.In post 1059, Nero Cain wrote:lets lynch in
2. Ultimate Liars (Kokichi /Hebichan)
8. Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer)
9. Theta Alpine
10. Elsa Jay
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I was surprised at his agreeable response to me there too, but I'm not sure that's scrummy.In post 1175, Nev and Max wrote:Shit, I should probably say something about those and not jump the gun and naked quote 2 posts.
Anyone else hate these? This is the consummate example of busy work scum will do to look like they are being helpful to the town. I mean, he is making and keeping up with a vote chart guys. He was so agreeable when X chastised him for putting not voting (which considering the basis of some of the arguments we have already had wasnt the worst) instead of Unknown.
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It better be a big fucking castle, also a wife that doesn't look like a horse. And I'm moving in before the vote.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I mean if you want people to believe you on that bringing evidence is a lot more convincing. I'm inclined to agree with Thanos (on the original point).In post 1252, DrewVa wrote:
Yes but I would but then have to dig through every game I’ve ever played in, to do that. You either believe me or you don’t. It’s really that simple.In post 1250, Thanos wrote:
The current subject is the legitimacy of the alleged "scumslip".In post 1246, DrewVa wrote:At worst, I’m not wrong. At best, it’s NAI. Because I have seen it happen, more often than not.
What you're saying in the quoted can be applied to anything anyone said.
(Assuming by "it" you refer to slips like this)
If you have seen slips highly similar to this one, can you quote them?
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Here, i'll go first...Evidence of me digging through my game history in previous games to back up my argument that I was witnessing scum indicative behavior. And, um, me doing it right now to back up this argument? that i'm making.
Exhibit 1
Exhibit 2
Right, your turn?
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good post fishy. i think you're bang on there. you can have a townlean.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'm going to have to wade in here. If your clear use of vote tags should be disregarded as a joke, at what point do you draw the line between assuming a vote is a joke and a vote is real? The most sensible course of action is to take literal votes at face value, and you told us that you're voting yourself. If you don't want that in the artificial VC, go ahead and change it.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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why SS and profiiIn post 1298, Gamma Emerald wrote:Is it ok if I townbin all of (SS, Profii, TLK)?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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You know, I'm quite enjoying this anonymous mechanic. I'm able to vote who I want without getting any pushback from them. It's liberating.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I'd use it on a scum read that ends up with zero votes, personally.In post 1379, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah, I may or may not have changed my vote with the recent information. But hey, since I'm about to go to sleep...
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they didntIn post 1450, mcqueen wrote:I still have no plans to vote for that to happen, unless someone made an extraordinarily good point as to why I should.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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okIn post 1506, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Fucking ewIn post 1378, Xtoxm wrote:You know, I'm quite enjoying this anonymous mechanic. I'm able to vote who I want without getting any pushback from them. It's liberating.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i stopped scumreading people for lurking a long time ago. been burned by it too many times.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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not wanting to deal with defensive pushback isnt scummyIn post 1717, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Like why are you admitting to enjoying a scummy behaviorIn post 1530, Xtoxm wrote:
okIn post 1506, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Fucking ewIn post 1378, Xtoxm wrote:You know, I'm quite enjoying this anonymous mechanic. I'm able to vote who I want without getting any pushback from them. It's liberating.
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Not coolIn post 1907, DrewVa wrote:
What’s funny about it? Are you usually this bad at Mafia?In post 1906, Ramcius wrote:
I admit that I have no clue about your meta, also, I want to inform you that I use only something I witnessed myself. To answer second part, I have no reason to townread either of you and your "stop tunnel us, we don't vote you anymore" sounds really funnyIn post 1905, DrewVa wrote:
Why are you still so tunnelled on us, when we aren’t even voting you anymore? If you don’t think I hardtunnel as town, you don’t know jack about my meta.In post 1899, Ramcius wrote:
I literally said that, when you asked last time. I said you're 4th on my scum list and I want lynch in other 3 first, I'm calling Gamma/TLK/DrewVa scumteam for a week already, I'm questioning them about their TR on each other for a while now, getting nothing. I really need one of them to flip, so i know, if I'm on right path or not. You are just a side project, so if you get vigged, less hassle for me in future dealing with you (I might get lucky and eat bullet before that too)In post 1898, Nero Cain wrote:but I don't think you ever said that. Why didn't you just say that when Gamma asked you?
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you too bro. festive cheer and all thatIn post 1929, Almost Chara wrote:Merry Christmas everyone.
@Scum: Go out.. have fun.. get drunk.. then come back to post under the influence. Should be LOTS of fun for us. Trust me on this.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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theres for sure important mechanical strategy discussion to be had about thisIn post 1975, RCEnigma wrote:
Scum just have to unvote if they are on the wagon and get another Lynch instead.In post 1967, Nero Cain wrote:At first, I was like an SS claim makes no sense in this setup (and thus was a gambit) but then I remembered that Boon said there's be timestamps and that being how hammer is decided makes some sense to me. If we really wanted to use him as a double lynch we can have like the people we want dead to vote TLK and everyone else unvote as so not to prevent a TLK lynch.
Couple mechanical questions for the situation.
If TLK is the Lynch should the rest of the slots unvote to avoid a plurality Lynch on someone else?
Does that ruin the point of keeping votes hidden since it will be manipulated day 1?
I think that's kind of a short term gain long term loss.
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i doubt its a scum fakeclaim tbhIn post 2074, davesaz wrote:
TBH I'm pretty far out of touch RN. Only have the last few pages in memory.In post 2015, Thanos wrote:
Davesaz, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current gamestate.In post 1618, davesaz wrote:Checking in for catchup, bottom of 59.
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I think it would have been better for town for TLK to not claim, assuming the SuperSaint claim is even real. The kneejerk reaction to people not "hammering" as directed can easily catch a TPR who has a darn good reason not to be venged just as much as it could catch scum, and therefore the strategy of trying to designate someone goes out the window. Though the claim does help TPRs avoid the hammer by not piling on, but that makes it a great scum fakeclaim. I don't remember if SS gets to choose to venge or not, or if it's compulsive. And if it isn't compulsive there is a question that someone with that role should be asking the mod.
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You can't force someone to hammer. It's a non starter. If you think they're scum, vote them.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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i did think alonzo made a fair point.
profii hasn't stood out to me one way or other.
CD i could probably go for.
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@mcqueen, thats a good point but i think trying to coordinate it the # players we have atm is too messy- Emperor flippyNips
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there's decent utility there profii
could be strong in late game if you make it
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scum SS possibilityIn post 2308, mcqueen wrote:
What is this in reference to?In post 2300, Xtoxm wrote:@mcqueen, thats a good point but i think trying to coordinate it the # players we have atm is too messySmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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wait are you saying the modifier is permanent after you apply it? if so thats super powerfulIn post 2311, profii wrote:I can do them whenever I want but only once
Ascetic means all night actions bar killing fail - so reflexive roleblocker ish
Loyal means only works on same alignment so if we had a fruit vendor I could make them loyal and they basically go round inno’ing people
Loud means the recepient gets a PM saying “so and so visited you last night “ - not sure if you get told - so and so jailkept you or just so and so did something
Also - when I act upon you, you wil be told so
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or loyal if you hit scum with it
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noIn post 2332, Something_Smart wrote:Not asking for a cop, I'm talking about an investigative role that right now is almost useless, like vanilla cop, voyeur, or motion detector. Neighborizer also qualifies. If somebody has one of those roles, it's probably worth it to come out.
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sorry but this is awfulIn post 2343, mcqueen wrote:Also, I suspected a lot of us would question our reads greatly come the final hours. I've done so, and it with profii's claim, others are probably doing so as well. That's why I wanted to end the day yesterday irl and take our chances. Xtoxm not doing that doesn't read well to me. Scum may want their own coordinated lynch (assuming they have daytalk, again it's very possible they don't), rather than whoever we were trying to go after (so, profii). Not saying this makes Xtoxm scum, but he's not getting a townread out of it either. And since you suspected him, I followed suit. Sorry, DrewVa, I'm doing what I told you not to do.
P-edit: Like I said, I'd go for an Almost Chara lynch. But there's no wagon there and it's not enough to say "bad town, please lynch" this early in the game.
towns usually come together for a d1 deadline crunch
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who do you think we had a formed wagon on
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if there genuinely was a formed wagon of that size maybe i could have been talked into endingIn post 2353, mcqueen wrote:
Hopefully TLK. Near meaningless? I agree it's a low amount and I'd rather aim for ~8, but don't underestimate 4 being enough, either.In post 2351, Xtoxm wrote:we didnt have a formed wagon last night
who do you think we had a formed wagon on
3 or 4 claimed votes on someone in a 23p game is near meaningless
the last time i saw the fake vc it had a 3 wagon and a 4 and that was basically it
i thought tonight we would coalesce around a proper wagon with deadline
i guess its not happening
i don't feel like your push on me is coming form a scum place necessarily
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RCE is a townlean for me.
Theta made a post about policy lynching TLK that pinged me a bit but she also has very little content in general. I could go for that at this point though.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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15mins.
im on nips.
could move to theta.
its looking like a low threshold plurality lynch
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I suppose I missed out on these rounds for being a day rep yesterdaySmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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MeanIn post 2753, Alonzo wrote:
That and you're slow.In post 2751, Xtoxm wrote:I suppose I missed out on these rounds for being a day rep yesterdaySmooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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That a is a good vote
So is ss and McQueen
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Because scum would never pick town for wifom purposes rightIn post 2772, BrightEyedFish wrote:In post 2769, Emperors New Groove wrote:
Why?In post 2767, BrightEyedFish wrote:
VOTE: RamicusIn post 2766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Ram wasn’t in Group CIn post 2749, BrightEyedFish wrote:Gamma was in Group C.
Because the winners of the BOONus rounds are the Day Reps. Also scum has a new modifier where they can pick one of themselves to be a Day Rep. And Ram wasn't in a BOONus round.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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I mean it does look like there's a strong correlation between bonus winners and day reps.In post 2780, Gamma Emerald wrote:stop outing BOONus round winners, it informs scum of who has more abilities to use
I think boon wants scum to know where the prizes are going
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it makes too much senseIn post 2888, Ramcius wrote:
"Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that essentially states that the simplest solution tends to be the correct one."In post 2877, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Occams Razor is a method used to prove and/or explain something. And we do have confirmation on 3 of the Day Reps also being BOONus round winners.In post 2876, Ramcius wrote:You using Occam's razor, when you can't prove anything? Either of other 3 can be scum, scum might chose not to use their ability (I don't see any advantage for scum having their day rep, especially, if this ability is public), there no confirmation that all 4 is from BOONus rounds. In short, you try to lynch me on some unconfirmed speculations
So, can we get TLK today? We need to deal with SS claim. No one want discuss his last second vote on Theta D1 either
Your solution isn't simplest, you just want easy mechanical lynch
3 rooms
3 day rep slots for winners
1 slot effectively chosen by scum
thats the basis i'll go with until i see evidence otherwise
fish just doesnt realise that wifom is a thing
im also assuming that scum can straight up choose a specific player and not just scum because why wouldnt that be a thing
boons wording was vague, likely intentionally
p-ed
half the game is involved in these things and for sure scum were involved
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"opportunity to pick one of themselves"
could you highlight the part that precludes using it on someone that isnt themselves?Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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you know because if youre going to go in on that theory you need to be certain it actually works the way youre assuming it does- Davesaz
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If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
maybe boon served us scum on a platter
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thats fairIn post 2904, Thanos wrote:I dont think scum would pick non scum as a day rep though, UNLESS, they knew how the day reps are chosen, which is doubtful.
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why does everyone have a hard on for ending days early
we had a deadline lynch and it only got 4 votes
its a terrible idea
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