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VOTE: book kid

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mastina is mason w me

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Yayyyy Flavor Leaf is town too!!

You too deserve to be lynched, specially after doing the Flavor Leaf appreciation page in our last game. You could've told us you were scum, you ungrateful bastard

Can you link the game pink?

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VOTE: book kid

Why?

Cause

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Yayyyy Flavor Leaf is town too!!

You too deserve to be lynched, specially after doing the Flavor Leaf appreciation page in our last game. You could've told us you were scum, you ungrateful bastard

Can you link the game pink?

Specifically the FL appreciation page

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FL appreciation is over.

Does it have to be?

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I really love how much confidence Flavor Leaf has on himself. Like, it's something we all should learn to do: respect and love ourselves, for it's the only way to really get to love someone else.

Good job, Flavor Leaf!

It’s not just himself; I don’t think I’ve ever seen him spite anyone.

Exactly! Because if you don't know yourself enough and get to really love yourself, you'll usually have issues with someone else because of those traits you don't get to appreciate on yourself; people usually project their own insecurities on the rest, but Flavor Leaf loves himself despite his flaws 'cause he knows he can't be perfect, so he loves everyone 'cause he recognizes that those imperfections are what makes us, the human being, a complex and entertaining kind.

This was so fucking wholesome pink ball

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Pink ball is town bc scum wouldn’t share something so pure

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Where we voting pink ball, I’ll sheep you til I die

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VOTE: skellen

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I would appreciate people explaining their Skellen read because I do not see it. Maybe I need a new prescription.

I thought I was p clear that I’m sheeping pink ball all game

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Basically consider pink ball double voter on top of whatever else he has going

I needed to redress the roles somehow because I fucking BET that my role is the best of all

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FL I am fuckin hyped to be in a game with you again my man

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FL do you really think I would be this incredibly

outrageously

blatant if I was trying to pocket you?

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Ps if it wasn’t clear that was a rhetorical question and the answer is “no. no, I would not.”

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Because that would be v v bad obv!scum and I am not v v bad obv!scum

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Sky I am gonna deny you a pagetop one of these days

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Dw I have great faith that as this game unfolds my towniness will spread out before you like a gigantic indelible stain on the fabric of this game

And then we can form a trio of wholesomeness with my guiding light of purity, pink ball, and ride it all the way to victory

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Pink ball, do you have a nickname? bc neither “pinky” nor “bally” works for you I think

And I also don’t love PB for you

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People call him Pink sometimes

Also doesn’t work for me idk

I need something that conveys my affection for him yet also shows subtle respect for his leadership as he guides me through this game

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FL I am fuckin hyped to be in a game with you again my man

Ah, man.

This guy’s gonna go all the way if he’s scum pocketing us.

Are you really pocketed this easily?

I’m a v charming guy Something

I will work my magic on you too

Although idk if you can join team wholesome yet

I’m gonna need you to post some good, kind content first

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Pink, where you at? We staying on skellen or hopping on this deb wagon? I’ve got one or two scumreads but they’re p weak so I don’t really wanna go there yet in case it puts them on the defensive before I’m sure

I wish friendship was enough for a mason thread

Apart from the one I have with mastina obvs

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Kinda think book kid and RCE are plausible scum

But my team leader disagrees on one of those so not sure

Guinea pigs are fuckin cute boi

mod, I need V/LA until the 21st probs 26th

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Kinda think book kid and RCE are plausible scum

But my team leader disagrees on one of those so not sure

Guinea pigs are fuckin cute boi

mod, I need V/LA until the 21st probs 26th

Wdym team leader

I mean PB who is going to lead us to a glorious victory

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menalque can you talk to me about your book kid read ?

~ black widow

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Then in terms of the content she has posted some has seemed game advancing but other bits have seemed like just posting to keep her presence here a bit higher.

Not sure though, as I mentioned before I don’t have any strong scumreads yet.

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She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

Jfc are you still in school? How have holidays not started yet?!?!

Softs my read a bit which was already quite weak, I’ll wait til you break up to think about it properly

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Did I say I was

You said it with your eyes gamma

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He's been following you yes but he never used those words

Listen, I’ll refer to the purest of pures however I so choose

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Here in Sweden same

Wait, are you Swedish, FL?! I always thought you were united statesian

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She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

Jfc are you still in school? How have holidays not started yet?!?!

Softs my read a bit which was already quite weak, I’ll wait til you break up to think about it properly

here in England we break up mid-July.

I mean, I’m English too, I just didn’t remember it being that late, holy shit

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Book kid can be town for now

Gamma can too so long as he promises to stop doubting our shining light’s leadership

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I really don’t like the deb wagon, feels weird

That’s super vague but I am tired and a lil wine drunk right now so figuring out why will have to wait until prob tomorrow

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Actually maybe it’s as simple as two of my scumreads are on it?

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Book kid can be town for now

Gamma can too so long as he promises to stop doubting our shining light’s leadership

YOU HAD A SCUMREAD ON BK

earlier, what changed?

It was p weak and she used the phrase electric boogaloo

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Thoughts on mastina from those who know her?

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Book kid can be town for now

Gamma can too so long as he promises to stop doubting our shining light’s leadership

YOU HAD A SCUMREAD ON BK

earlier, what changed?

It was p weak and she used the phrase electric boogaloo

this read

SHOCKS

me

*slow clap*

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Thoughts on mastina from those who know her?

Gut town feeling

Cool, we’re melding bc i was thinking that

But I don’t know her so I wanted to hear from someone else

Who’s your top scum/town read?

Pedir: well I guess that answers that

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Gamma conf!town for sheeping pink ball

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Pink ball, I have a nickname for you finally, do you wanna hear it?

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I'm all ears

you should prob get a doctor to check on that

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Pinky dinky doo

This is almost good enough to make me change it

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But no! Your new name is.......

pure boi

Because you are pure

And you are a boi

Do you like it?

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Pink Ball Wizard.

The boy plays a mean pink ball

FL, you get that the concept of a nickname is that it should be easier to say or at least the same difficulty, right?

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Pinball?

Not whimsical enough for dear pure boi

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Gamma I think you are prob town

What do you think of that?

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Pink Ball Wizard.

The boy plays a mean pink ball

FL, you get that the concept of a nickname is that it should be easier to say or at least the same difficulty, right?

Idk about that

Don’t make me go and find sources!

Esp bc they might say I’m wrong

Just roll with my assertions, k? It’s good for my self-esteem

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Actually maybe it’s as simple as two of my scumreads are on it?

Would that be Skellen and Gamma?

Close, skellen and RCE but I was already weak on RCE and most of my TRs are TRing him so now I’m really not sure

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Mastina, i heard you’re like really really good as scum

Is that true?

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@avengers have you literally seen a player who is as obv!town as pure boi is this game? I will follow him, and his wholesome content, until the end of time (this game)

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Gamma I think you are prob town

What do you think of that?

I think without explanation I can't make much of it rn

Yeah that’s fair, I’ll try to get to it later

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But no! Your new name is.......

pure boi

Because you are pure

And you are a boi

Do you like it?

Omg I love it, the explanation is pretty straightforward too! Now I need to give you a new name as good as that, damn

Wooooooooooo, sweet, i am hype for my new name!!!

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RCEnigma is acting like pocketing FL isn't possible currently as they're supposedly town, and because of that it's still on the to-do list

Well RCEnigma claimed mason therefore must be town, so.

i mean like three people claimed masons with you so (although to be fair i'm pretty sure at least one of them was a meme)

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I was deadly serious idk what you mean

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Hi Maria, I have a Q

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How do we solve a problem like mariiiiiiiiiiiiiia?

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I’ll bet

that’s

an entirely original joke never before heard on forum, am I right?

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Don’t feel v good about the maria catch-up, didn’t seem that substantive and I can see that being an easy way for a scum replace in to get some townreads

What do we think o glorious one?

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I’m gonna lmfao if PB rolled scum this game and I made a scum double voter by accident

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Hmm...i don’t have reads right now. Someone needs to push me so i can omgus and force get myself here

</3. I thought we were the townboi pureness and wholesomeness trio

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<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

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Pink Ball, why is Gamma town

Scum gamma isn't like this it's too confident too much just...Gamma. Gamma does certain stuff he can not fake period and this is town him.

I’m having this weird deja vu

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Don’t think gemerald is scum bc reasons

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Also I think book kid is scum prob

PB can we get on book kid pls?

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Wow way to post before I can get my acumread up

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Mastina, i heard you’re like really really good as scum

Is that true?

Mastina pls

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gemerald looks really towny

menalque ur read is bad

I mean u think my gemerald read is good

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Don’t feel v good about the maria catch-up, didn’t seem that substantive and I can see that being an easy way for a scum replace in to get some townreads

What do we think o glorious one?

pure boi, this was a q 4 u if I wasn’t clear

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gemerald looks really towny

menalque ur read is bad

I mean u think my gemerald read is good

yeah but like RCE and SS who are like the players who actually know how to read me are townreading me and i think you should listen to them

(Whisper it: I’m scumreading RCE too so I see no reason to trust what he’s saying about you)

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SS have you played with book kid a lot?

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What’s EICN?

I’m not sure mod speculating sky is worth it but as far as it goes I think SS is more prob right?

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SS have you played with book kid a lot?

Yes, and my read on her is overall pretty good. I'm not extremely confident at this point in time, but once I start to get more engaged (I just came off of a busy few days, and a game I was stressed just ended) my read should get stronger. I am leaning town on her for now, though.

I mean, aight

I don’t really want her lynched today unless there’s not a better option

But I also don’t think the appeal to “listen to the people who can read me” is v good

Like that’s great cover if you’re scum and you’re managing to fool people who normally do read you well

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I'm obviously sheeping with my Gamma vote but I'm really scum reading Menalque. This "pure" nonsense just isn's right. So I'll keep my vote where it is, but I want to get a Menalque wagon started tomorrow or when Gamma's has dropped.

lol good luck

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What’s EICN?

Everything is Completely Normal, Skygazer's most recent large, with significant mod trolling and a bunch of the same players.

Fuck me dead that’s long

Is it worth reading?

From either a meta or an entertainment pov

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Like that’s great cover if you’re scum and you’re managing to fool people who normally do read you well

True, but that is a situation that by definition doesn't arise very much. If someone can read you well, then you usually CAN'T fool them.

Yeah that’s a fair point

I guess the other reason it concerns me is bc in a case where all three of you are scum it’s also a great defence, and as I’m also SRing RCE, and I’m only null on you that doesn’t seem overly out there

But like I said I don’t really want book kid lynched today anyway so I’m okay with seeing how her play develops

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I'm obviously sheeping with my Gamma vote but I'm really scum reading Menalque. This "pure" nonsense just isn's right. So I'll keep my vote where it is, but I want to get a Menalque wagon started tomorrow or when Gamma's has dropped.

Oh Dr. Easy Bake might actually be town after all.

I can see it.

If DEB is scum this has a decent chance to be distancing with Menalque, actually.

As if I wouldn’t already be yelling at him in daychat for doing it so badly

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What’s EICN?

Everything is Completely Normal, Skygazer's most recent large, with significant mod trolling and a bunch of the same players.

Fuck me dead that’s long

Is it worth reading?

From either a meta or an entertainment pov

What meta point of view do you mean?

Meta on the players in this game, eso if several are the same so interactions between them is more useful potentially

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Also did I mention yet that I am currently 3/3 across all my games

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Also did I mention yet that I am currently 3/3 across all my games

What does this mean?

I have 3 completed games

I have 3 wins

As in official wins, that is

Is it relevant? Not particularly

Am I gonna boast about it while I can? Absolutely

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As if I wouldn’t already be yelling at him in daychat for doing it so badly

Knowing DEB, that probably wouldn't get him to stop

lol okay yeah that’s fair

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Also, while I have you all here: why is my sig not appearing? I have text in it and I’ve clicked confirm and yet here, nothing

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Also did I mention yet that I am currently 3/3 across all my games

What does this mean?

I have 3 completed games

I have 3 wins

As in

official wins

, that is

Is it relevant? Not particularly

Am I gonna boast about it while I can? Absolutely

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Sup RCE

Talk me through book kid!town

Also why I shouldn’t be SRing you

Pls and thank

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Did you have a whoopsie on that last post Menalque?

Nope

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Sup RCE

Talk me through book kid!town

Also why I shouldn’t be SRing you

Pls and thank

I'm town playing to my town meta AND outside of my scum meta, so there's that.

Book

plays scum similar to myself, pretty listlessly.

Neither of us really enjoy rolling scum. I feel she has very distinct approaches to each alignment and her town game is proactive over reactive. Example Musicals normal vs EICN. Which isn't a hard read since she's fooled me day 1 before but I think I've gotten better at separating her being busy from her avoiding giving content because she doesn't feel comfortable interacting with town.

Do you see why I have a problem with this? I feel like you’ve been pretty listless this game, and skimming your ISO confirmed that for me

Yeah I can imagine you towning it up under pressure but idk why I should give that more credence than your earlier behaviour while you were unpressure, ya dig?

I haven’t played with you, but I’ve definitely read at least part of a game where you were town (I think in newbie section?) and you seem different here

Those are the two main reasons I’m SRing you

I also think book has been p listless aside from pushing on FL and that felt forced rather than engaged

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Also I don’t realistically have time to read your meta but I don’t buy that argument? People can always expand their range at any given time

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Also, while I have you all here: why is my sig not appearing? I have text in it and I’ve clicked confirm and yet here, nothing

User Control Panel -> Board preferences -> Edit posting defaults -> Set "Attach my signature by default" to Yes.

Nice, ty

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Don’t hate me cause you ain’t me gamerald

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Ugh, I actually regret that I avoided replacement, I feel totally detached from the game. Ask me anything while I read stuff, I feel that's easier getting back into the game.

On a scale of 1-10 how irritated are you at being caught scum on D1?

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Hello friends

I just saw Bon Iver live and it was fucking A M A Z I N G

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Don’t feel v good about the maria catch-up, didn’t seem that substantive and I can see that being an easy way for a scum replace in to get some townreads

What do we think o glorious one?

pure boi, this was a q 4 u if I wasn’t clear

Sorry didn't see it the first time. I think my first thought about Maria's catch-up was "why the fuck is she scumreading me if she has correctly scumread me in another game and this has nothing similar to that game", so it was like, either she's fabricating it, or she got lucky that one game. But then I remembered that she scumread me in Anime uPick too so maybe she thinks I'm scummy always? So let her have it and let's wait for her doing something more 'cause she eventually does.

Also I think book kid is scum prob

PB can we get on book kid pls?

Why? I liked her thing with FL. town!FL usually gets in that kind of arguments with other town fellas. Maybe FL doesn't realize it, but for the rest of us is easier to see and it's pretty good for town.

Okay cool, I can wait on maria

I really didn’t? Felt like she’d been lurking which was, yes, partly explained by stupid school term lengths in the UK, but then I’m pretty sure she was still being lurky afterwards

The fact that she pushed FL felt like scum!book knowing that lurking would get scumread esp after that and feeling like she needed to push something, and went for FL as he’d invited it

And that makes sense to me because then if people did read it as ingenuine (as I do) then she could always claim “oh, I was just pushing FL like he asked to get him into the game”

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Mena I forgot to tell you: I've been thinking about your nickname and I can't think of anything related to your name, so I'm calling you Dustin 'cause I'm obsessed with Stranger Things and I'll be your Suzie <3

You are adorable pure boi <<<333

I’m legit never lynching you this game so if you’re scum congrats cause you already won

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@mastina how did town do in the games where you got paranoia nislynched?

Also pls talk me through RCE!town a bit more? I’m just not really seeing it but at least two of my strong TRs are so I’m kinda unsure

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Don't worry about it Dustybun, I have a townbloc of 10 players in a 17 playerlist and I'm probably right on everyone so I'll be nightkilled in no time

I’m gonna need a list order of people you want lynched/bad things to happen to in the case of your death then btw

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@fl I think ur impressive, don’t worry about SS

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I love it when we mind meld

I would probs expand it by one to have book kid in there but otherwise I’m v good with that as a lynch pool

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Can someone good at math tell me how many nislynches we get in a game this size?

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Trying to figure out at what point I’d wanna include RCE in the pool

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I don't mind 1v1ing the obv scum PB if you wanna trade blows

R u calling pure boi obv!scum?

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That is outrageous behaviour

Have u even read his ISO? Where do u think his nickname comes from?

Honestly if I wasn’t honour bound to vote skellen rn I would be gunning your lynch so hard

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Also y didn’t you answer my question

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How do we solve a problem like mariiiiiiiiiiiiiia?

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Also lol are you bitter bc PB and I have the acumteam nailed down D1

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Actually I’ll stop bc I feel like I’m being sort of flamey so sorry for that

Idk if I’m legit finding your posts weird or if we just really don’t click personality wise

But I’ll leave it alone for now

If u wanna engage with my content as opposed to my shitposting I’ll respond tho

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That sounds like engaging with my content tho — how has my shitposting been anti-town?

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I am p stupid tho

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I will try to tone down the shitposting a bit that’s fair

I have fun with it but I’m not out to make the game not fun for others so yeh

I’m not just SRing you for disagreeing with me, and I think that’s a misrep

I made it p clear that I wasn’t persuaded by your catch up, and I think that quite likely comes more often from scum

There’s also the fact that you’re calling PB obv!scum

To me that’s an attempt to control the narrative and get into people’s heads

I am v v v v confident PB is not scum. I think he’s been towny throughout. Why not just call him scum if that’s how you’re reading him? Bc I think you’re trying to put doubts in the heads of others later in the game (“oh, wasn’t someone thinking PB was obv!scu before”)

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@PB can we hop on this maria wagon?

Skellen feels kinda stale for now, so unless you’re gonna start hardpushing there soon I feel more comfortable with maria

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Tbh I don’t really mind where we go within the lynch pool you mentioned yesterday

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I think maria’s catch up is fairly easy to fake as scum repping in and wanting a townread

I didn’t like her calling you obv scum for the reasons I explained

I think the fact that she vanished after I started asking if she wanted to meaningfully engage with my content instead of with my shitposting wasn’t good

And — while I’m giving benefit of the doubt on this for now — I also think that the fact that she took issue with my shitposting in particular when I don’t think anyone else was really pushing her might have been AtE coming from scum trying to reduce pressure

If someone could confirm that maria gets annoyed by shitposting generally then that would be useful for me in terms of sorting the slot

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Yeah bc the key thing is whether I’m voting someone when we’re nowhere near L-1 on anyone vs me trying to actually scumhunt and sort

Sure

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I <3 u pure boi

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VOTE: maria[/maria]

Let’s get this party wagon rollin

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Fuck

VOTE: maria

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You're right, I just think if you are town you pocketed yourself to someone who is

slightly likelier than random to be scum

. You aren't really pressuring people as much as talking to PB. Like I'm looking forward to your read of PB after this, but to me it feels like coasting right now.

Explain?

Whoops, dats a me

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Also how have I not been clear on my read on PB? PB could literally make a post talking about who he was planning to NK and I would believe it was a gambit sooner then I would believe he accidentally posted to the wrong thread

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If PB is scum here I may give it all up to go live in a little cottage in the countryside, that is the level of shook I will be

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Does Menalque usually make hugely exaggerated posts? I feel like he’s trying too hard to play up his PB read.

Literally never

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Pls spell my name right

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Honestly I don't have any way of confidently reading pb and have never played with them, and everyone who has is really confident in their read and is kinda all over the place. Rereading I think PB is probably townyish and I have no clue with you so doing your own stuff would be useful for me. My strong feeling kinda went away so idk.

Pedit: uhhh maybe he's softing a n0 green check . Honestly I don't know either player so I don't know if this is how they play, I do standby this is just boring play from Melanique. Like especially if PB is confirmed town to you sheeping him is pretty useless

since you are spending all your time interacting with someone who you don't need to read

.

Legit q: did you actually read my ISO before posting this?

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Also are you french itlepip?

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p sure RCE means he thinks your type isn't what you're implying it is

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@RCE, mastina

how about making things spicy and hopping on board this wagon to lynch town

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also mastina I'm willing to go with RCE being town 4 now

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ugh, when'd you sell out to the MAN, SS?

also which listmod do I need to contact to ask about whether or not that specific quote is okay?

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although while I have you here, how about hoppin on this juicy wagon hey

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Hey SS can you drop some reads on this thread? You said you would reread and interested to see where you are after that

Maria leantown due to a couple of RF quips.

163 217 227.

yeah that strong strong towncase he made

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you are spending all your time interacting with someone who you don't need to read.

@RCE, mastina

how about making things spicy and hopping on board this wagon to lynch

town

10/10

Honestly I don't entirely know why,

I think probably because of SS's town case on Red

, but I'm getting massive heebie jeebies off this wagon. I'm really sad that people aren't lynching gamma here, but honestly am interested in most other counterwagons (except on my townreads but most of them are safe at this point).

I was kinda willing to forgive the first misrep because I figured maybe scum!you wouldn't do that because it would be so obvious and I'd clearly pick up on it

but with that lovely suggestion that SS quoting three RF posts and claiming that Maria seemed towny bc of RF quips constitutes an actual town case I'm now p sure you're scum trying to divert from Maria

I still wanna lynch maria first I think, we can do you tomorrow

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@RCE, mastina

how about making things spicy and hopping on board this wagon to lynch

town

10/10

Honestly I don't entirely know why, I think probably because of SS's town case on Red, but I'm getting massive heebie jeebies off this wagon. I'm really sad that people aren't lynching gamma here, but

honestly am interested in most other counterwagons

(except on my townreads but most of them are safe at this point).

so basically just anything that's not your scumbuddy huh?

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The clash have written extensively about that particular state of affairs and have been very clear on the outcome too, so I'll pass

I dropped UT a message, ty

hopping on maria y/n?

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we have different definitions of towncase then

I wouldn't consider calling someone leantown based on 3 posts by their predecessor in the slot to meet the standards for a case

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like, I would expect there to be a greater sampling of their overall behaviour throughout the thread, and I would expect it to be a solid "I think this person is town/scum" in a case, not just a lean

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also:

pure boi
FL
mastina
RCE
gemerald
avengers
chemist

jwhatsit
deb
alch
Emperor flippyNips
Something_Smart

book kid
Skellen
itlepip
Maria

is where I'm at atm

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Also

I think there is a nonzero chance you just scumslipped in your post,

like its not certain but it definitely is enough combined with my light townread earlier to not want that slot lynched.

really towny of u to not share what my supposed scumslip was

what are you hoping is gonna happen here? that this will be read as TvT and get you off the hook?

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also literally what reason is there to not think that maybe red decided to expand his scum range esp if he knew people would think it was outside his range?

I just won a game where urap had teacher fooled up until he CC him because he was playing outside of what teacher thought his scumrange was

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GEs wagon didn't "fall apart" it had 4 votes on it at the most and wasn't going anywhere

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actually, changed my mind, I want this first, then Maria tomorrow

VOTE: itlepip

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Why am I TRing FL? It's a good question, kinda hard to put my finger on

I just ISO'd him and I find him hard to read read, so this is mostly based on feel, but pretty much it comes down to the fact that he was thinking the same way I was at points and other than that he feels the same as when I've played with/against town!him

Spoiler:

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

I just rolled scum like 4 games in a row, give me a break of that fancy feast

I think that scum!FL knows that this is bad logic (like, there's no reason for it not to be 5) but I don't think he brings it up because he knows that

Early town reads on Debbie D oh double g, RCE, Oversoul

I also thought deb was more towny than not at this point

What my other said ^

I didn’t roll scum 5 times in a row, though

see above, I don't think there's any reason for scum!FL to bring attention to this shitty logic when it could easily be used against him

FL I am fuckin hyped to be in a game with you again my man

Ah, man.

This guy’s gonna go all the way if he’s scum pocketing us.

I've played with FL twice, once where we were both town, once where I was scum and he was town

I think scum!FL prob takes more issue with me bc he knows that this is out of character with how I've played with him before, and he could prob have pushed that to get some heavy susp on me esp as he has more clout than I do

the fact he didn't do that makes me think his interactions with me come more often from town!him

Pocket FL is still on my to do list.

I lightweight scum read this

I was also having some lightweight doubts on RCE at this point so this is more melding

<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

coooooould be fence sitting but I think this is a legit point against saying that her catch up was bad

You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

I just played a scum game with you, and this is exactly what you did in that scum game, so idk wha you’re talking about with that.

Albeit, I was scum with you, but nonetheless, alignments aside, you started pushing at me there as well and not going along with my path

Exactly. We were scumbuddies and everything was planned to some extent using Discord, that's an entirely different beast to pushing Town FL as scum.

This is why this is a misrep, and anyone who knows me should be able to see this.

I NEVER make the choice to bus Day 1 if I don’t have to.

I’ll scum theatre, but that was straight up pushingz

I only push and bus my scummates when they position themselves in contradiction to me.

I bussed JJH recently because he stated he was going to bus me the night before.

VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

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What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

Town FL also tries a lot harder to read Maria here.

This was you case?

Explain because that just feels like grasping at straws because you need to make a strong push somewhere.

And i really don’t care to solve Maria ever, so i don’t understand that comment.

I have rarely ever actively attempted to accurately read Maria. Especially early game.

And if I have, i likely tunneled her. So that’s another counter meta read.

Never said it was a strong push. And you're right that I needed a push, RF replaced out and Maria couldn't like respond to the case, and I saw your 'please push me' and went with you.

It just feels incredibly fake , when you're a strong town player who is more than capable of making reads for himself, and there's the whole subconscious bias that scum should want to be townread. And it feels more like manipulating for trs than manipulating to solve.

I am manipulating for tr’s.

And go check like any newbie games I play.

I CONSTANTLY have no reads.

I don’t look for scum, I look for town.

I don't think that this is scum theatre, but I also don't really think book is town

so I think this is FL doing real scum hunting, either actually of book or using the book interaction to sort others

Just because I’m reading a game doesn’t mean I’m reading a game.

I read but don’t comprehend stuff so have no analysis or actual opinions to give.

That’s when i don’t post.

And a lot of times when I choose to post it’s because of someththing happening in real time, which gets me present, and i can catch up in that way.

This is almost word for word a post from Scum!FL in anime upick.

Yeah, I’m really trying to push that line of thinking the past few months.

Pretty sure I’ve been posting in all my games for the past few months.

It just happens I rolled scum 4 games simultaneously so most of those were scum games, but I do say it as town too, which is weird because I’m like 98% sure you’ve been in multiple games with me where I’ve said it.

So it should seem familiar.

While true, you only spoke a partial truth

It's probably not a post that sticks out when you're obvtowning, so possible.

I’m always obv towninng.

Even as scum, people just don’t understand the logic.

this just felt towny and similar to what I've seen town!FL post before

And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

How is Book townie?!?!?! From that complete nothing of a push.

She misrepped and pushed bad meta.

Hmm, do you buy that she solo pushes you for towncred then?

Why wouldn’t she?

It’s NAI from scum’s perspective to push me, and you’re more likely to come out of it as TvT, especially with how I was posting, no one will take my push seriously.

I don’t necessarily think that’s happening, but I don’t think it’s not happening.

And like L in Death Note, even if something has a 7% likelihood of being truth, it’s good to push it like you are certain because it helps you see things you wouldn’t.

this too

And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

How is Book townie?!?!?! From that complete nothing of a push.

She misrepped and pushed bad meta.

She could be town but she’s not townie

meldin'

oh i'm still voting fl from that thing lol

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

Interesting.

VOTE: Maria

think that this is prob him doing something interesting based on the fact that he's quoting book who he was SRing earlier, and I don't see why scum!him bothers to quote her

There’s a lot of players here that I gut read want to hard defend, and certain players like Jibril i either turn on when they’re town when i know they’re town, but a second of doubt gets me to it, or i hard defend and they end up being scum.

I feel Menalque has that equity as well. Kind of Gamma too, but in a different evolved way

this post seemed towny, and in keeping with town!FL's self-metaing

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lul good luck.

1. I bolded the scum slip
2. I literally have no idea what you mean by TvT. I kinda think you are a bit scummy, but mostly you are just kinda being obnoxious so trying not to let that bias me too much.
3. like I probably should stop responding to this, its just you kinda saying buzz words and arguing semantics against anything I say. But this is my second post responding to you, and you've made almost an entire page responding to me. I'm definitely not getting lynched anytime soon, and I'm definitely not any kind of hook.

I'm just getting a bit frustrated because I've played with people like you before and its really really hard to get you to change your mind on me, so if you are town I'm basically hated for the rest of the game.

Also SS, what are your thoughts on the Maria wagon?

1. lmao
2. I think you're straight up scum and you're trying to discredit me, prob because you're locked into a bad defence of a partner that you don't think you can get off
3. I mean I'd change my mind if I thought you were doing literally anything towny

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lI'm definitely not getting lynched anytime soon,

lol okay tell yourself that

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I would appreciate it if you

(pure boi
FL
mastina
RCE
gemerald
avengers
chemist)

could all get on this itlepip wagon so we can lynch the obv!scum today not the prob!scum

I'm not going to have time to case itlepip properly before deadline but look at his ISO then vote him

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I think you're straight up scum and you're trying to discredit me

Do town never discredit anyone?

Not normally, unless they think that person is scum

And if they think that person is scum they should be voting them

Itlepip is insinuating I’m scum and trying to discredit me, but not actually voting me or making a push on me, prob bc he knows that if it goes anywhere my dying wish is gonna be that he sees rope literally as early as mechanics possibly allow, be that vig’d during the night or lynched D2

I also don’t think town so that worries about that happening if they are wrong, so that’s another reason I think he’s scum

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Because he’s deliberately framing things to try and make me look bad

See his suggestion of my “scumslip”

Also him suggesting I’ve been playing in a way that hasn’t been town bc I was “spending all my time interacting with PB” when that’s patently untrue from a half minute skim of my ISO

Also his framing of my arguments as “buzzwords and semantics” when that’s obviously not it as anyone reading my posts would know

Overall I think that there’s solid reasons to think that he’s scum

On the off chance he’s town then I think he’s playing badly and not engaging with content in a meaningful way, and I don’t think we particularly lose anything form lynching there in that case

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Deb go look at my latest readslist

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I mean if you wanna help out by doing something actively protown, great, but you’re more nulltown to me and I was only appealing to those I think are actually town

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Because he’s deliberately framing things to try and make me look bad

Do you think scum frequently say things that they know are stupid, untrue, or huge stretches?

It sounds like you're suggesting that, because he's done those things, he must be scum who thinks he can get away with it rather than being town or scum who hasn't read enough.

I don't agree with that assumption. If the things he's said were wrong or misleading, and it sounds like they were, I don't think they were intentionally so.

I think good scum incorporate that into their scumgame so that if they do it by accident as town or as scum then they have something to fall back on to explain it

Also you can say something and think/hope that no-one will pick up on it, and I can see that being exactly the sort of thing scum will do if they’re not risk averse

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Also, confirmation bias is a thing. A huge thing that makes town pushing look like scum framing. Grasping at straws is not a scum characteristic.

Who’s confbiasing here, me or him? I don’t think I am, I think he’s genuinely digging him self a deeper hole from interacting with me and that’s why he’s now ignoring me

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actually, changed my mind, I want this first, then Maria tomorrow

VOTE: itlepip

Why is Maria a high scum read but you aren’t fine with that growing wagon?

I’m okay with maria

I just think itlepip is more scum so I want him first

I’m still fine with it if maria happens, but I’d prefer if people would move

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?

If that post from itlepip didn’t make sense, it’s because he’s once again on the misrep highway heading to not accurately portraying what was going on ville

Gamma, wanna get on itlepip with me?

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@FL, SS

why can’t there be bussing/distancing scum on the maria wagon?

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SS, I have three (3) questions for you:

One (1), what’s your read on itlepip?

Two (2), how are you as scum? Do you consider yourself good scum? How do you typically play as scum?

Three (3), who here have you played with before? Of those people which two (2) know you beat?

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Best*

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@FL, RCE, gamma

Did SS’s answers to those question ring true to you?

Also is he normally this helpful/friendly or am I being pocketed?

I wanna TR you SS which makes me worried you’re doing a good job of pocketing me

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Tbf even if you were pocketing me I’m not sure that makes you scum

But I’d feel better about things hearing from those 3

I mean, I guess also @itlepip & book same questions as the other 3

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I just get paranoid when people are friendly/helpful idk

Once I know they’re just like that it calms down but the first time I’m playing with someone it always makes me worry they’re trying to pocket me

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Accidental alt slip.

My bad.

“Accidental”

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Yo FL now that I answered your question do you wanna join me

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I’m lost, who’s sheep?

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Oh wanna sheep, soz

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Talk me through what seems fishy about it

So far it’s only me and (chem/alch can’t temember who) on it, so I’m assuming it’s to do with something one of us has done

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Try and think fast if you wanna chat bc sadly our time zones don’t overlap that much any more

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Aight, that works

Yo gamma, what are your reservations stopping you from hoppin on this juicy wagon with me?

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PB I’m not gonna get on at you like the others because I trust you to do what’s best for town whatever that may be

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Yo @RCE I SEE U

Wanna come here and drop some knowledge bombs on me re:SS and also a vote on itlepip while ur at it

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Also

I think there is a nonzero chance you just scumslipped in your post,

like its not certain but it definitely is enough combined with my light townread earlier to not want that slot lynched.

really towny of u to not share what my supposed scumslip was

what are you hoping is gonna happen here? that this will be read as TvT and get you off the hook?

also literally what reason is there to not think that maybe red decided to expand his scum range esp if he knew people would think it was outside his range?

I just won a game where urap had teacher fooled up until he CC him because he was playing outside of what teacher thought his scumrange was

GEs wagon didn't "fall apart" it had 4 votes on it at the most and wasn't going anywhere

I think you're straight up scum and you're trying to discredit me

Do town never discredit anyone?

Not normally, unless they think that person is scum

And if they think that person is scum they should be voting them

Itlepip is insinuating I’m scum and trying to discredit me, but not actually voting me or making a push on me, prob bc he knows that if it goes anywhere my dying wish is gonna be that he sees rope literally as early as mechanics possibly allow, be that vig’d during the night or lynched D2

I also don’t think town so that worries about that happening if they are wrong, so that’s another reason I think he’s scum

Because he’s deliberately framing things to try and make me look bad

See his suggestion of my “scumslip”

Also him suggesting I’ve been playing in a way that hasn’t been town bc I was “spending all my time interacting with PB” when that’s patently untrue from a half minute skim of my ISO

Also his framing of my arguments as “buzzwords and semantics” when that’s obviously not it as anyone reading my posts would know

Overall I think that there’s solid reasons to think that he’s scum

On the off chance he’s town then I think he’s playing badly and not engaging with content in a meaningful way, and I don’t think we particularly lose anything form lynching there in that case

Because he’s deliberately framing things to try and make me look bad

Do you think scum frequently say things that they know are stupid, untrue, or huge stretches?

It sounds like you're suggesting that, because he's done those things, he must be scum who thinks he can get away with it rather than being town or scum who hasn't read enough.

I don't agree with that assumption. If the things he's said were wrong or misleading, and it sounds like they were, I don't think they were intentionally so.

I think good scum incorporate that into their scumgame so that if they do it by accident as town or as scum then they have something to fall back on to explain it

Also you can say something and think/hope that no-one will pick up on it, and I can see that being exactly the sort of thing scum will do if they’re not risk averse

That’s the gist of it gamma

If you think it makes sense help a brother out

If not tell me why not and we can talk tomorrow when I’ve slept

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I could prob get behind that as a compromise lynch

Like, his ISO isn’t great

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Also v sadly it’s not looking like you’re the lynch

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Well it helps me sort you tbh itlepip

VOTE: flippy

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And if you’re not scum I think there’s v good odds flippy is

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I've changed my mind on itlepip actually, I think he's prob town here

bc this game is dying to apathy and I think he's been trying to get around that

challenging the maria lynch, then trying to find a good alternative that we can get through before day ends

I don't see why scum!him bothers unless he's planning on deep wolfing but at this point in the game that doesn't seem like the most probably explanation, so I'm only gonna worry about that if he's still alive later on

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by extension FL is even more likely town for noticing there was a good reason to not get on itlepip before I did

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I’m not against a Flippy lynch but if we let him live a bit we might get another golden post like in anime Upick where he forgets his SK result for a few Days.

Lol wut

lmao:

What was your xtoxm result?

I got that he’s a SK
But since there hasn’t been multiple kills I forgot to say something

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I’m not good enough to do that FL

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Tbf FL I’d play the same way I did last time if I were scum
Ie I’d just interact with you a tiny bit then kill you N1

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Also FL if you read the scum pt for that game you’ll see that my way of trying to pocket you is by pushing you and low key scumreading you

Have I done that here?

No, I’ve done literally the exact opposite bc I’m town

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Also did you even scumread me outside of mindmelding with sushi about me being a good first vote — I don’t think you did, you were pretty absent, I just wanted you dead because I was worried about lategame you

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Also I’m out for a while but ask any questions while I’m gone I’ll get to them

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I'd vote RcE Easy bake and Menalque (I don't think Menalque is scum but he's hard defending obv scum so he can go so it's easier to lynch PB)

Yeah lynching someone you don’t think is scum is a great idea obv

Why did I not see you as town sooner?

Golly gosh so dumb of me

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Also FL if you read the scum pt for that game you’ll see that my way of trying to pocket you is by pushing you and low key scumreading you

Have I done that here?

No, I’ve done literally the exact opposite bc I’m town

Also did you even scumread me outside of mindmelding with sushi about me being a good first vote — I don’t think you did, you were pretty absent, I just wanted you dead because I was worried about lategame you

Well, there’s an answer for everything, I guess. -.-

Do you have any wishes excluding PB?

If i had one wish

FL I didn’t understand either of these tbh, explain pls?

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I don't like how Menalque is using self meta here, it looks like overdefensiveness to pressure

This is a weird post gamma mcMamma

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Ehh "I don't believe Scum!FL would do this thing that I expect Scum!FL to do so he's probtown" is a nonread to me.

Is this me lol?

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@maria well it’s hard to pick it apart because you post ridiculous walls that I can’t edit on my mobile

But basically I think it (1) was mostly just you asserting stuff with cherry picked quites to make it look like there was evidence (2) I didn’t like your critique of oversoul’s argument for FL!town — thought your logic was bad but in a way that was easy to miss and probably missed by anyone reading because it’s in the middle of three massive fucking walls (3) thought it didn’t help to push the gamestate forward/wasn’t coupled with any effort to improve the gamestate which I think comes from scum as there were no useful wagons at that time and I think maybe we were coasting towards mislynchkng deb still? Not sure

You’ve done other stuff since then that I think is scummy but that was, I think, most of what I disliked re:catch up

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Deb is a bad wagon bc we’d be wasting a lynch on mislynch bait

One of the actually towny things maria has done is saying that that’s a good shot for a vig

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Yeah, the fact that I was playing kinda scummy or certainly not that townie and he was the only one who scumread me for it

Also I think he’s def townier than flippers mcnippers so there’s that

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i don't understand how lynchbait = not a good wagon?

that seems like you're defending him without actually looking at his content

lynchbait roll scum sometimes, is there something he wrote that specifically made you think he's town?

Why does this feel like you’re trying to monopolise on a few people being unsure about me to set up a push on me later

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I don't like how Menalque is using self meta here, it looks like overdefensiveness to pressure

This is a weird post gamma mcMamma

Do you not think it would look a little strange when FL looks at you a little funny and you launch into a half dozen reasons why what you're doing idn't what scum you would do?

Tbh I mostly felt like FL was overselling his “i SR Menalque early on but messed up by not pushing it” when I really don’t think he was scumming me that had and the kill really had nothing to do with where he was at anyway

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Bc I don’t think maria is gonna happen and at this point I prefer nippers and I think we can get it done

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Gamma what made you think I felt under pressure?

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VOTE: Easy bake

The vague possibility of maria!town:

Spoiler:

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@Mena the way you were presenting the self meta felt a bit like you had something to prove

I mean yeah, I did, the fact that I didn’t get caught by FL (at least not outside of his own head)

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gamgams why is mariaf actually mafiar this game

Ok what, I don't understand this question...AT ALL

why is maria scum

and menlanque how is... maria not happening when shes the leading wagon??? even with me changing skellen's vote shes still at 5 with deb at 4

Don’t think there’s appetite for maria from those left over and as I’m still thinking she’s more likely scum than not I don’t think scum will get on if they can go elsewhere that isn’t scum

See: deb

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Also ffs how do you do gifs?

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gamgams why is mariaf actually mafiar this game

Ok what, I don't understand this question...AT ALL

why is maria scum

and menlanque how is... maria not happening when shes the leading wagon??? even with me changing skellen's vote shes still at 5 with deb at 4

Don’t think there’s appetite for maria from those left over and as I’m still thinking she’s more likely scum than not I don’t think scum will get on if they can go elsewhere that isn’t scum

See: deb

And you wonder why I want you lynched

Yeah tbh I do

I think I’m pretty obv town here and so even if I am wrong on you that’s a dumb reason to want me lynched

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Actually, good point, gamma why are you staying?

Basically I think that there’s a good chance that jwhatsit, FL, PB, SS will all get on flippers

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And I think that if momentum shifts right before deadline remaking town will hop on to make sure that we don’t no lynch

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I mean you read his ISO right?

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Also how much of your maria vote is her posting doesn’t convince you bayou agrees with the case?

Like percentage wise?

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Vs* you agrees

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Can you remind me where the case is again?

Also pagetop hey

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Ffs

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Yo does someone on a vanity wanna help a brother out

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What in that case do you find convincing gamma? Seems p weak/stretchy to me

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@deb, mastina, SS, jibril

Your votes are needed