Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

[Croag]

Every single


Game



I miss the first 20-30 pages because I was busy


Fml

[Croag]

Every single


Game



I miss the first 20-30 pages because I was busy


Fml

To save you some time, ISOs of interest are {Bingle, D1L, Fish Monger, JJD, kuribo}. Next tier is {pops, pine, gork}, maybe?

TL;DR on setup is that there are several neighborhoods consisting of 3 people each in which members are informed that every other member has a specific modifier. Nobody has mentioned flavor for any of them.

Pine, Kuribo, Fish Monger -- Ninja Neighborhood
Marquis, Bingle, Vecna -- Miller? Neighborhood and maybe also vanilla-izers? Seem to have voting quirks.
Perry, pops, Flavor leaf -- Miller Neighborhood.

Thanks so much for the info that helps me

Lmao Bingle, not again

What’s the caffeine thing

[Croag]

i got prodded sorry yall thought i posted before this

im gonna catch up

[Croag]

idk if i believe FL?

[Croag]

It was croag that was left out of the dance and flipped scum in our recent dance game, correct?

Pretty similar pattern of play here. That is to say, come in, complain about timezones and # of posts, vanish, do nothing for a decent amount of time.

thats meta and we dont go off this



yah it was me but thats one instance ive ever been scum on this site, and here i am again doing the same thing, but tada this time im not scum

[Croag]

has anyone claimed the neighbourhood im in yet? kek

[Croag]

idk if i believe FL?

do you believe pelican though
is probably the more interesting question?

i like to believe someone wouldnt make that mistake but like

[Croag]

Croag don't claim your neighborhood pls

awww what i never woulda thought

[Croag]

has anyone claimed the neighbourhood im in yet? kek

Not publicly, but at this point it's pretty much public knowledge who is where. Your hood ability hasn't been claimed though and you shouldn't do that

o ok i need to read more

whats a hood ability

[Croag]

croag
ive got an even better question than the question i asked you or the other question that you were never asked but answered before

its
who do you think is scum and who do you think is not scum
and even better than that
is why do you think that

Tbh it feels like he's avoiding to talk to me at all

he seems like the sort of person that would be difficult to extract any information from without insulting him
or threatening to lynch him

so maybe threaten to lynch him and call him dumb or something while doing that

i have no idea

im gonna say pops and fl are scum

this is just a guess

i missed a lot & missed peoples reactions

[Croag]

now you've just told me which one i shouild say

so im gonna say

i dont think flavor would fakeclaim like this as town



do we think all mafia share the same hood or is it more likely they are dispersed across the whole thing

cos mafia could instead just claim a good sounding hood right

im guessing its more likely theyre dispersed throughout

[Croag]

It was croag that was left out of the dance and flipped scum in our recent dance game, correct?

Pretty similar pattern of play here. That is to say, come in, complain about timezones and # of posts, vanish, do nothing for a decent amount of time.

thats meta and we dont go off this



yah it was me but thats one instance ive ever been scum on this site, and here i am again doing the same thing, but tada this time im not scum

I clicked on the search bar

And I typed in croag

And I saw this, and replied

So you somehow managed to read up onto page 788. there better be some content to reflect this or im gonna assume you were pointed to that post in scumchat.

[Croag]

Aye my post broke u can guess what I said

[Croag]

VOTE: bingle

For some reason I’m getting scum vibes here

He seems to be speaking less than town!bingle

I know that’s meta but like eh

Also, I genuinely don’t get the thing with perry

I think it’s semantics
Like I can’t remember word for word my role pm and I wouldn’t want someone to hold it against me

[Croag]

VOTE: bingle

For some reason I’m getting scum vibes here

He seems to be speaking less than town!bingle

I know that’s meta but like eh

Also, I genuinely don’t get the thing with perry

I think it’s semantics
Like I can’t remember word for word my role pm and I wouldn’t want someone to hold it against me

It’s absolutely not.

It’s not a matter of remembering. You just need to go and read the posts that have been quoted multiple times.

i see a lot of people talking about these posts but havent even seen them myself

[Croag]

for me to make an independent decision on whether its actual scum or not

[Croag]

So to continue pissing off pops, our neighborhood investigates as mafia. I assumed everyone in it would claim Miller and surprise surprise. I don't think every miller claim is a miller but it doesn't make sense to me for all the millers to stay silent and let invests run around with fake guilties because it will warp how they view the gamestate and how they approach reads. Which is dangerous.

is it this one

[Croag]

It was croag that was left out of the dance and flipped scum in our recent dance game, correct?

Pretty similar pattern of play here. That is to say, come in, complain about timezones and # of posts, vanish, do nothing for a decent amount of time.

thats meta and we dont go off this



yah it was me but thats one instance ive ever been scum on this site, and here i am again doing the same thing, but tada this time im not scum

I clicked on the search bar

And I typed in croag

And I saw this, and replied

So you somehow managed to read up onto page 788. there better be some content to reflect this or im gonna assume you were pointed to that post in scumchat.

you searched where exactly?

top of this thread

'search this topic' search input box

i typed croag

i found this comment about me that i hadnt seen before as i have been away from this forum for 2 days

i replied

late, albeit, but it was the frist time i saw this and felt it was appropriate to reply to


now whats the issue here

[Croag]

so can someone explain to me definitively, why, perry is scum

the way it looks to me is he is a miller (which by defn appears as scum) and said this

and apparently... that makes him scum? does this mean the miller neighbourhood DONT appear as scum? otherwise whats the issue

[Croag]

the issue was I wasnt aware theres a search topic option.
And going through all pages of people their iso searching for your name seemed really unlikely of an approach.

im such a villager.

sorry whats iso lol thats not a acronym i recognise

fair enough lol i didnt do that tho

thought the quick win for me catching up with stuff was just to search for my name to see if i was needed or any questions were asked or whatever rather than read 70+ pages lol

[Croag]

wait lmao im even more confused

not that i dont want it but why is what im saying clearing me

it seems ive found the secret formula

[Croag]

Lurking and pretending to not understand what's going on while claiming not to read thread isn't beyond scum behavior and I have 0 experience with Croag to say that something like that is beyond her scum range

how about i tell you that

i actually dont understand the thing with perry

and how about i tell you that

i actually havent read the entire thread

isn't it more plausible that someone who has been absent for a lot of the game actually hasnt had the time to read 70+ pages lol

[Croag]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

[Croag]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

Umm, for starters, this was a scummy post. Dunno about anything else.

[Croag]

Good detective work there /s

[Croag]

Hey I missed the past 2 days because I was bottomless brunching for my birthday yesterday lol

I’m at rehearsals today but I’ll be back later and take a read through

[Croag]

i hate this whole meta of this person spams words in this thread so they are immediately town/lets not lynch them but someone is absent and they HAVE TO BE LYNCHED TO GET MORE INFO

i think a wolf is hiding in one of these posters who posts frequently

VOTE: pops

[Croag]

i want to trust in my hood

i dont think any of them are maf

can someone double confirm to me who has claimed what hood and who they are with please

sorry to be a pain

[Croag]

Just like half of the playerlist (at least)

Who else you consider for a lynch today besides Pop and Bingle?

I guess FL isn't happening, so I'd be ok with Chandra, maybe Kagami, Croag should just eat a bullet from a vig (I'm not scumreading that slot, but I'd rather not waste lynch there down the line)

super towny thing of you to say

doesnt scum read me but thinks i should get vig shot

good towny place there mate

[Croag]

play*

[Croag]

im looking at popsofctown today

Don’t.

Do it tomorrow.

Pops is confirmable.

why tomorrow? why not today?

[Croag]

but someone is absent and they HAVE TO BE LYNCHED TO GET MORE INFO

Yes, because it's a game of interaction and someone not here cannot be interacted with. Otherwise we might as well all stop talking and just vote randomly and see what happens.

lynching a town member who is not posting as much gives much less info than a scum that has posted 200+ posts

[Croag]

Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

Sounds like gay dance croag tbh

sounds like croag in general tbh

[Croag]

town's noise and collective dissonance is making it way too fucking easy for scum to hide and do nothing

I agree with this, but there are other players I suspect are more likely to be maliciously lurking than Croag

I'm reminded that Fish basically successfully lurked his wagon out - maybe he observed how well it was working for his buddies

I've rolled scum with Croag

She doesn't maliciously lurk she just lurks

not visiting the site for 22/24 hours of the day is not lurking

its just not being on the site

lurking would be being online all the time and not reading

i got a busy life fams

[Croag]

I'm willing to wait 1 night and let vig to deal with Croag, she isn't showing any intentions to actually play this game and pressuring with wagon won't help

wtf i am intending the play this game when i can get on

can yall chill out

[Croag]

You know what?

Why not just lynch Croag? I feel like it’s going to be that big of an issue, why the hell not just lynch Croag today? Does anybody town read the slot? Like, I am not scum reading them by any means, but if croag’s town, they’re gonna be mislynched eventually anyways. Let’s just vote them.

VOTE: Croag

scummiest post ive ever read

>not scum reading them
>lets just lynch them anyway

lmao

[Croag]

When you guys say you TR Croag, are you willing to never lynch that slot in this game?

How can you ask this question knowing full damn well that noone can ever be that serious?

Like, you expect scum to take the bait and go "YES MAN, WE TOTALLY DO"?

I really dont see the point in this post. I cannot think of anything.

Please, enlighten me. What was the point of this post?

To highlight how pointless TR on a lurker at this stage of the game is - I expected to get "no" and then ask "then how you plan to deal with that slot in future, if you refuse vig shot there tonight?"

it's possible to townread someone even if they are ""lurking"" because of the contents of their (limited) posts and their reactions and tone of voice in their (limited) posts

[Croag]

Just like half of the playerlist (at least)

Who else you consider for a lynch today besides Pop and Bingle?

I guess FL isn't happening, so I'd be ok with Chandra, maybe Kagami, Croag should just eat a bullet from a vig (I'm not scumreading that slot, but I'd rather not waste lynch there down the line)

super towny thing of you to say

doesnt scum read me but thinks i should get vig shot

good towny place there mate

It has nothing to do with my read on you, it's just that you do nothing to get townread and eventually you'll end up getting lynched for it. Vigging you now is better that lynching you later

perhaps. or we do neither because im not scum

[Croag]

popping in here, quickly browing the last 3-4 pages, throwing out some unreadable responses......not exactly allowing us to sort you either.

Youre not playing the game. You dont have any reads. You dont make any statements that allow us to read you.

Either its a strategy, or you should just not be playing (because youre not).

How do you propose we deal with your slot croag?

i am playing. this is how i play, i'm trying my best as i can.

what do you mean unreadable?

i propose that you neither lynch me nor vig shoot me because you may be losing valuable info from a town

[Croag]

popping in here, quickly browing the last 3-4 pages, throwing out some unreadable responses......not exactly allowing us to sort you either.

Youre not playing the game. You dont have any reads. You dont make any statements that allow us to read you.

Either its a strategy, or you should just not be playing (because youre not).

How do you propose we deal with your slot croag?

i have read the entire thread & just now read all pages from when i last was here.

I have already given my reads.

The entirety of my hood is town. That is my read and that is something I have already posted in here. Just because everyone else was saying the same thing, apparently, does not make it any less valid that it is coming from me.

I have voted for pops. That is one of my reads for a scum slot.

If you want other reads from me, I think DOL and JJD are scum.

Theres some reads, enjoy.

[Croag]

Oh and im 50% sure chenn is scum

I'm not sure how many scum there are though?

[Croag]

I chose to ignore it on purpose because there's nothing to tell that would benefit the town as a whole.

Can you stop calling my slot annoying when I am trying to play but have just been busy. It's a bit of a dickish move

It's not exactly towny to say you would rather get rid of a slot just because they are "annoying" v.s. what is actually good for the town

[Croag]

I cannot remember who is in what hood when there is 100+ pages and no body has been able to help me to find where it was stated who's in what

I don't recognise people by name because for all intents and purposes I am new to this site and don't remember people as well as others would

[Croag]

Sorting unreadable slots is good for town

mmm okay keep spouting that i'm so unreadable let's keep going and let's keep ignoring everything i am saying

[Croag]

what more do you want from me lmaoooooo

[Croag]

considering no one is helping me out

ive just read every post where hood was mentioned

can someone confirm to me if i have this right


{
Vecna
Marquis
Bingle
}

{
Croag
Penguin
Chandra
Kagami
}

{
Pops
FL
Perry - vig? town and dead
}

{
JJD
OFRHZ
DOL
Chenn
}

I haven't been able to sort Pine, Fish or Kuribo. I'm not sure what
Teenage Troublemaker
Self-Proclaimed Anarchist
Laboratory Technician
means and what hood that implies they are in

why is there 17 players? was there one hood with 5 in?

[Croag]

unless one hood has 5 in i bet the last person not in a hood is main scum character

[Croag]

Either you have a good memory, or just a scum hood where someone is keeping track.

i completely agree with this

like it took me ages to do that i had to make an excel spreadsheet & even then i couldnt work it out 100%

[Croag]

Kuribo, Fish and Pine were apparently together in a hood.

For all we know, Kuribo was actually a suicide bomber and just exploded on Fish.

Heck, I actually like that idea, it fits somewhat with self-proclaimed anarchist flavour, and at least that would somehow explain why he suddenly went and claimed the way he did (after making up his mind he was 100% gonna explode on Fish).

I probably couldnt be further from the truth, but I wouldve liked that to actually have been what happened.

makes sense

fsr i just thought it was 4, 4, 4, 4, (1) because mine is a 4

[Croag]

can someone help me and go off my list and put aside it what those specific people have claimed

are there any neighbourhoods (except for fish's) where the people claimed different roles

[Croag]

17 players. Lets assume 4 scum. Lets assume the vigs know eachother, or talk to eachother at night. Lets assume theyre not stupid and try to shoot the claimed immune hood.

That leaves 12 targets, of which 4 are scum. If they coordinate their shots in their hood, thats like a 50% to shoot scum every night. Ofcourse, the D1L has some influence on it, but those are some pretty good odds to wreck the scumteam really fast.

I dont think a setup like that is ever gonna be created, or approved. 2 town vigs in a hood and 3 town that cannot be shot seems total rubbish.

is this a complaint about how townsided this game is?

why wouldn't u be celebrating

[Croag]

i just read pine's posts and all he does in every single post is reply town or scum to peoples posts

hm

[Croag]

@Pine:

Fullclaim in your neighborhood tonight, including any whatever details you might omit in the dayplay because you think it's scumsided to present them while you're alive.
When all players in a neighborhood are dead, the neighborhood becomes public, so this lets us counteract the role-janitor element of this setup.

i like this post

if it's allowed by the mod

[Croag]

Btw, Croag, I have to ask.....

what is bottomless brunching?

i wish i could say it was bottomless brunch food but it's 2 hours where you get unlimited prosecco or cocktails (i chose cocktails) so i was out of the picture for a good 24 hours afterwards

u only live to be 25 once x

[Croag]

My eyes have been glazing over about the JJD trying to join the vanillizer hood topic.

What was JJD's logic in trying to join the hood? "Let's all be bulletproof"?

We (docs) agree that our hood has no scum, we form townblock with Marquis and Vecna and just lynch everyone outside of townblock, Bingle included

you know a doc role is really helpful for a scum when there are vig's in the game

im 99% sure there is one maf in the doc hood

[Croag]

My eyes have been glazing over about the JJD trying to join the vanillizer hood topic.

What was JJD's logic in trying to join the hood? "Let's all be bulletproof"?

We (docs) agree that our hood has no scum, we form townblock with Marquis and Vecna and just lynch everyone outside of townblock, Bingle included

this is genuinly worst post ive ever read tbh

[Croag]

a scum would agree there is no scum lmao

[Croag]

there is something really inflated about an ego to 100% believe (as town) your entire faction must be 100% town and thus you are the solid townblock

that's a guarenteed way to lose this game if you have a scum within you

why would a scum within you NOT say that they believe the other 2/3 players are town

bruh

[Croag]

My eyes have been glazing over about the JJD trying to join the vanillizer hood topic.

What was JJD's logic in trying to join the hood? "Let's all be bulletproof"?

We (docs) agree that our hood has no scum, we form townblock with Marquis and Vecna and just lynch everyone outside of townblock, Bingle included

you know a doc role is really helpful for a scum when there are vig's in the game

im 99% sure there is one maf in the doc hood

I'll help you on this a bit - we are all 1-shot: normal doc, JK, Visitor and CPR doc (saves target from attack, but kills target, if it wasn't attacked), we have no clue who is who, but it's revealed on death

why does this imply you are all town

[Croag]

Personally, I found strange how you and PP ended up in his TR list D1 and I knew you both were in his hood. I found it strange to assume so easily that your hood has no scum, Croag had like 3 posts, so that's not a reason think she's a scum of your hood.

Who says we cant have been townread based on our play?

How did you know we were in the same hood?

How was kagami assuming the hood had no scum if croag was not a townread?

How? Well, when I see 3 hoods outed and thus I have 4 people not in any hood (cause I knew who was in mine), it's pretty likely they are in same hood

Yes, it's that one lurker with 3 posts and who was prodded by Kagami's demand is scum in your hood. Lack of paranoia feels really off, when people in other hoods were suspecting each other

Also, based on play is funny, when PP haven't done anything meaningful yet

are u still calling me scum here?

[Croag]

Hm, promise of valuable info or 1 less annoying slot to deal, that's a tough choice to make. You can die for all I care, unless you start giving us actual content to read you

P-Edit: it's hard to believe that you have read thread, when you ask who is in what hood, also, someone asked you why you townread all of your hood, but I think you decided to ignore that, you calim to read all thread after all

She is giving content right now. Let's hope that continues instead of botching about it.

I think this is the post of someone afraid their free lynch might slip away.

Reading is virtue, my young padavan - I wanted Croag to be vigged, I'm against Croag's lynch today, I might consider it tommorow, if Croag isn't vigged though

i really dont need to be vigged

just saying

[Croag]

UNVOTE:

[Croag]

UNVOTE:

Why the unvote?

you asking pine to do that was towny

[Croag]

Hm, promise of valuable info or 1 less annoying slot to deal, that's a tough choice to make. You can die for all I care, unless you start giving us actual content to read you

P-Edit: it's hard to believe that you have read thread, when you ask who is in what hood, also, someone asked you why you townread all of your hood, but I think you decided to ignore that, you calim to read all thread after all

She is giving content right now. Let's hope that continues instead of botching about it.

I think this is the post of someone afraid their free lynch might slip away.

Reading is virtue, my young padavan - I wanted Croag to be vigged, I'm against Croag's lynch today, I might consider it tommorow, if Croag isn't vigged though

i really dont need to be vigged

just saying

It's not me to decide, I can only voice my opinion on this matter, which is that I don't want lynch you, but it would be helpful, if you get vigged

1) waste a vig shot on a town when they could be aiming for scum
2) one more town is caffeinated for no reason

[Croag]

While I'm extremely annoyed at Croag, there is just no way she's scum in this game.

what did i do

[Croag]

if you mean my list this was purely what i found from the past posts of this thread when i looked up the word 'hood' to work out who had been placed in what

except i missed the bit about fish etc

[Croag]

I'm annoyed at your lack of punctuation.

Aye we all speak the same language don’t we

[Croag]

I'm annoyed at your lack of punctuation.

Sometimes busy life leads to not having time to add punctuation ygm

[Croag]

O, I see croag literally posted that we are a hood of 4. Lovely.

In any case, but our hood is off limits to town-aligned kills. The hood is fair game to varying extents starting tomorrow.

No I didn’t see post 2603

[Croag]

my townlean on Croag is partially because I've felt their posts as very relatable and sounding like what I'd have said in their position (it kind of was what I said myself when inactive and getting run up),

I very much agree, Here's proof:

554 500+ posts in and "I didn't read shit". That's rich.
562 So you helped with the catch up. Can you also help me read the setup?
1503 1000 posts later: I am going to catch up. Why would I lie to you?
1557 I am not making a statement that could be used against me later. I love this fence.
1559 I am doing the same thing I did as scum but here I am not scum. Scouts honour.
1562 Am I outed yet?
1563 I will soft defend but leave the room open.
1568 Genuine responses are genuine. Right?
1570 I'm tired of this BS. Someone explain (but I am in the process of catching up, I promise)
1571 I have no idea so I'm just going to throw in an unsubstantiated guess with no reasoning at all.
1576 Can Mafia be in the same hood, so we can lynch them all once the first of them exposed?
1829 I am doing too much already, so let me quote myself.
1830 I won't repeat what I "didn't say". Take a wild guess.
1831 A stance. YAY! I know it goes against what I was preaching, but you should be grateful I voted.
1843 Read? Who does that?
1844 I can pull reads out of my arse. I just haven't done it yet.

Oh, GOD! I got both pissed and bored by the time I got to this point. Someone please pick up from there and help me demonstrate how relatable Croag's ISO is. Please and thank you.

Lmao no one even helped me I had to help myself smh

[Croag]

The past is the past can we stop focusing so much on busy life croag and look at me now actually participating it’s fristr to keep defending myself from people calling me a shit player

[Croag]

*frustrating



Soz

[Croag]

Then go on with the program and vote JJD, maybe he'll call you clown too

I don't need her vote on me to call her that. I've already demonstrated my dead cat is more useful in this game.

K continue to be rude when I’m still actively contributing xxoxox

[Croag]

a scum would agree there is no scum lmao

The entirety of my hood is town.

In my opinion

I didn’t have a chat with my hood where we all confirmed everyone surely is town. There’s a difference.

[Croag]

What’s this achieving


Put me as a yes

[Croag]

tbh from an objective standpoint im not most scummy/lynch target for next 3/4 days

i would put them on 3 other players over me

imo more scummy players than me are DOL, chenn and bingle

my scum read on pops has all but gone now

[Croag]

also penguin & of have hardly spoken

[Croag]

i just dont think ofhz is scum based on the mini wagon earlier

[Croag]

i put JJD in a high up scum maybe position too

like id be happy with him getting lynched but think the other 3 are more scummy

[Croag]

i just dont think ofhz is scum based on the mini wagon earlier

rly? i feel like wagons that dont take off are less likely to be on town if anything

good point tbh

i think at the time i saw a few people i thought were scummy voting on it

[Croag]

Yall we don’t lunch kagami here

[Croag]

Is Margot Robbie truly a harlequin or does she just dress like one

[Croag]

For neither Rhyme nor Elephants understand Arithmetic?

[Croag]

Kagami died who was insane

[Croag]

Which doesn’t help at all cos she investigated fish

[Croag]

Which doesn’t help at all cos she investigated fish

Sis you act last night or are you being as useless as your recent train of posts are?

Sis fill in the blanks I’m being helpful

Why do I need to tell yall this is between and my cop friend

[Croag]

Anyway we’ve worked out a result so

[Croag]

Idk if it’s a good idea to out? Just makes a target for mafia

[Croag]

Aye

Will help later on but not for right now knowledge

[Croag]

I really don’t think the cop hood had two scums in it bingle

[Croag]

ey if u ever lynch the person i know is town i will b on it

[Croag]

Day One, why is it a big deal if Pine dies over Croag? It sounded like he was the one who vigged Fish in the first place.

Croag is sane/naive 1-shot cop, Pine was a ninja tracker. I'd shoot cop over tracker, unless I have good reason not to

based on this post it is literally impossible for DOL and PP to be scum together

[Croag]

you become caffeinted when you make your action

didnt someone claim caffeinated like day start

who was that and why they lyingggg

[Croag]

im glad your mislynch of chenn got sorted out FL

[Croag]

if PP is scum then our confirm inno cop report is bollocks

[Croag]

who was it that claimed caffeinated from the start

[Croag]

the above post confirms again PP and DOL are not scum together

[Croag]

VOTE: ofrhz

i think other is {vecna, FL}

[Croag]

im gonna actually cry i cant work this game out anymore lmfao

why havent even of us cops died yet

[Croag]

I'm actually starting to lean croag as the copscum.

10/10 post write it again

[Croag]

Also, why did everyone decide to townread chennis now?

It still could just be a naive cop scanning town on a scum, no?

Did I miss anything?

If the answer is "by play" just ignore this post

both sane cop and naive cop checked him & he was innocent

[Croag]

i wish i caught/read the flavour text better. chandra was obviously the corrupt dog cop, because i'm a dog too.

he was paranoid, so i am probably the naive cop

which makes penguin not only the titular character but the sane cop & basically confirmed town unless the titular character is for some reason scum

[Croag]

i just cannot get on board with millers who cannot be checked

like what is even the point of that

[Croag]

this is my reads list


SCUM-leaning:
Bingle
Vecna
Judge Joseph Dredd
Marquis

i am struggling with this. i can't work it out. i wanted to check vecna last night but was told not to because it was the vannillerizing hood?

TOWN-leaning:
Flavor Leaf

TOWN:
chennisden
PenguinPower
Croag

[Croag]

How come theres so few results while we had 3 nights and you have more than 1 action?

omg why is this so hard to understand

night 1) me and PP DID NOT ACT
night 2) we both independently checked chenn without confirring with each other
night 3) we decided to check DOL together because two seperate results when we don't know who is sane or naive is useless

[Croag]

Also, who in scumchat told you to scumread me? EH?

i literally.......... decided on my own merit to check you and then was told not to

give me one good reason to tr u

[Croag]

pp suggested between jjd and DOL and i said ok well im gonna change my check (initially checked vecna) to DOL and pp said ok hell do the same

[Croag]

i wasnt gonna check anyone who asked me to check them anyway lol

[Croag]

I hate the idea of a unkillable decaffeinated univestigable player and I want them gone tbhhhh that sounds sooooo scummy

[Croag]

ummm

[Croag]

Ummmm I don’t trust this

[Croag]

Unless it’s bingle / flavour this is a bad lynch

[Croag]

Is bingle and flavour actually a viable scum team because if not either he is town or someone is bussing

[Croag]

I’m the only one voting now and I have hammer if I want but hammer scares me this late in game

[Croag]

Vecna/Marquis
JJD/Marquis
Chen/PP
Chen/JJD
Vecna/jjd

Is a solve

bingle isnt even in this

which makes me think bingle and FL cant even be scum together because he cant be that obviously not-bussing his partner lmao

so either bingle is scum xOR fl is scum (or neither) and im worried its not fl because this lynch has everyone except me, PP and bingle on it. and i think PP is confirmed town because of his flavour

[Croag]

I’m not happy to do this

But Chenn is voting it and I know he’s OK

Intent to hammer

[Croag]

VOTE: Flavour Leaf

[Croag]

Oh lmao my bad

[Croag]

I’m going out for dinner and was worried missing day end

[Croag]

Butterfly


I’m worried about this


I think town have lost

[Croag]

Unless there's only one scum left

[Croag]

yeh i replied

[Croag]

@PP did you check or...

[Croag]

bruh

[Croag]

VOTE: marquis

[Croag]

does being a vig confirm town?

[Croag]

Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.

He needed you to claim first, because he does not know how to fakeclaim it otherwise. The fact (im assuming thats what your code meant here) that you got an INNO, means he can also claim an INNO to protect his teammate. If you had gotten a guilty, he would have no chance but to bus his teammate here.

The scumteam is PP and JJD.

Im also not protecting any teammate of mine in my hood. But were all town. If there was two scum in our hood the game would be over.

Why would the title character and sane cop be scum

[Croag]

Why would the title character and sane cop be scum

Why do you keep saying I'm the sane cop?

this was completely referring to the point where it was suggested to me you and jjd are scum together and thus you could only be sane as i have an innocent

[Croag]

jjd cant be scum without pp also being scum with him

[Croag]

and i dont think thats a solve

so unless you think pp is scum which i dont then jjd isnt scum

[Croag]

It’s definitely someone else in your hood imo

UNVOTE:

[Croag]

Croag, scum is trying to pocket you here. There is a reason PP wanted you to out first, because he does not know his own sanity.

He needed you to claim first, because he does not know how to fakeclaim it otherwise. The fact (im assuming thats what your code meant here) that you got an INNO, means he can also claim an INNO to protect his teammate. If you had gotten a guilty, he would have no chance but to bus his teammate here.

The scumteam is PP and JJD.

Im also not protecting any teammate of mine in my hood. But were all town. If there was two scum in our hood the game would be over.

Why would the title character and sane cop be scum

why wouldnt he be?

why would the cop also be an IC? plenty of mods make the title character the bad guy.

also, how do you know hes sane?

i was LITERALLY referring to the fact that pp cant be scum with jjd because he got an inno on him, and i also got an inno on jjd. so if jjd is mafia then i am the naive cop and pp is the sane cop if he is scum

if pp is scum with jjd and i am the sane cop then i wouldnt have got an inno on jjd

[Croag]

Why would the title character and sane cop be scum

Why do you keep saying I'm the sane cop?

this was completely referring to the point where it was suggested to me you and jjd are scum together and thus you could only be sane as i have an innocent

hmmm, does scum have daychat? they do right

full susp mode: this sounds more like a jjd post than a croag post

what lmao

[Croag]

anyways, i get what youre saying marquis. I feel the same way.

Readswise, based purely on play, id say theres an 80% chance its a combination of JJD and a cop. Bingles play is not completely outside of the range of what he can do as scum, but I still moderately townread him. The only thibg giving me some pause is that he doesnt really feel like he put a lot of effort into reading me. Also ,I disagree that a 3person scumteam is that much worse off than the 4person one

i dont think it is

[Croag]

if it is jjd and pp then why is the sane cop mafia lmao

i cannot be the sane cop if jjd is mafia with pp

[Croag]

i am confident last scum (if only one) is in {bingle, vecna}

[Croag]

who did kagami investigate night 1?

fish, and got innocent

[Croag]

Ok...so...here's where I'm at:

I have a town result on JJD - Croag says she does too. I have no idea what my alignment is, and BingleJingle posted a logical reasoning as to why scum would be able to ascertain their (and my) alignment. So, do I believe that a JJD/Croag team would have done that?
I didn't like some of the posting from Croag in the PT on re-read (probably naive cop/can we win this?/can we check again?) and I didn't like the suggestion to cop D1L over JJD and no response to my suggestion that JJD needed to be copped over D1L being ignored.
JJD vs. BingleJingle is reasoning vs ATE, and BingleJingle!reasoning has solved previous games.

VOTE: JJD

If you are town JJD can only be scum if I am also scum

If that is the case that you believe I am scum then vote me.
You should have 0 reason to go against that vs. Voting JJD because from your point of view if you are town me and JJD would have to be scum together.

If you don’t want to do this then either JJD is not scum and you are making a mistake or you are scum.

Either unvote JJD or vote me.

[Croag]

Penguin you are clearly sane cop because of your flavour character. I am 80% sure of that. Sue me if wrong. If you genuinely think JJD is scum then vote me. You have no reason not to.

[Croag]

JJD please unvote yourself as we are one away from a hammer

[Croag]

There’s no point being a self martyr if you are town. This does nothing for the game.

[Croag]

Either unvote JJD or vote me.

This is not a town post.

Yes it is. Reread please

[Croag]

VOTE: bingle[/unvote]

It’s him or vecna

[Croag]

VOTE: bingle

[Croag]

but i've been ignoring penguinpower all game and it shows

Penguin, just like croag, doesn’t get lynched today. Penguin, just like croag, can only be scum with JJD or solo. Penguin, just like croag, if solo scum doesn’t win if we lynch jjd. Which is why croag was willing to put her own lynch on the line to save JJD. Because she is never the lynch today, even if she outright scumclaims.

Take a good look at her vote on me. Not “Bingle is scum” but “I’ll lynch literally anyone but jjd.” There’s been no effort to try to read me or convince me I’m wrong on Vecna, because she doesn’t care which one of us gets lynched. Because as soon as there’s a hammer outside of her scumteam she wins.

I townread PP more than I scumread vecna. So JJD is town to me. Which means to me the best thing to do is vote you. Because of my townread on PP i cannot vote JJD

[Croag]

croag probably gonna block my preferred option though ;/

Bruh dont do it

[Croag]

i've already made my mind up tbh

@vecna imo its between you or bingle and i think i scumread bingle more

arent you also the only non caffeinated town? this kind of confirms innocence to me

i don't think it's jjd because for him to be scum pp also has to be scum and i dont think it's those two as a pair

[Croag]

and marquis shot scum so if hes scum gg

[Croag]

um stop

it is NOT JJD because thats means it has to be JJD and me OR JJD and PP and i do not think PP is scum

and i am not scum

ergo it is NOT JJD

please unvote

[Croag]

No, I have every valid reason to completely go against this lynch

Look, Vecna I can answer your question regarding you vs. Bingle another time. But this is more of a pressing matter.

From my point of view, JJD literally cannot be scum. Why?

- The only possibility that JJD can be scum is if PP is his partner.
- But, PP is voting JJD at this late stage of a game when he could just hammer Bingle and end the game.
- Which means, PP and JJD are not partners.
- Which means, JJD is confirmed innocent.
- So the final scum is remaining between Marquis, Vecna and Bingle.
- Marquis shot scum very early on. Amazing buss, or a towny move?
- Vecna is only remaining non-caffeinated member, which means he must be town.
- Bingle is literally confirmed scum.


@Vecna, @PP - if you scumread JJD please vote me instead and get this over with lol.

It is either:

- Bingle scum
- PP alone is scum
- Me and JJD are scum (this is not the case)
- Me alone is scum (this is not the case)

- It CANNOT be PP/JJD because PP is voting him when he could just win the game


If you town read me then unvote JJD please

@Vecna does this answer your question. Does it matter if I scumread you earlier. If you are the only non caffeinated person remaining then you have to be town so my opinion has changed

[Croag]

LMAO bingle the fact that youre now pushing that i am maf from the post confirms to me youre scum

4. There are two uncaffeinated players. One of them is Vecna, one of them is me. Your argument for Vecna being town literally applies to the guy you’re voting.

i didn't know you were claiming non caffeinated lol

[Croag]

fine. So it’s between you and vecna then

You and vecna can’t both be town together because you are both the only people claiming uncaffeinated

But you both can’t be uncaffeinated

Can you please stop implying I have no autonomy. Everything I am writing comes from my own brain and heart and just because you don’t like that I am going for you doesn’t make me scum

[Croag]

Literally byeeeeeeee

[Croag]

Bruh I tried

[Croag]

Please tell me PP was sane cop and I literally solved the game smh

[Croag]

When cops check Chenis over ofrhz, you can't expect town to win

actually, both cops checked you last night

I'm at a loss for words

Tried to get Croag to check JJD, but she didn't respond.

Can you please tell me how this would have benefited the game? With unknown sanity cops you have to check the same person so you get an understanding who is naive or sane

[Croag]

no because you still checked chennis too, you cant blame me for this?

you checked chenn and so did i


also like i knew who was gonna die lmao