Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

Alchemist21 · Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:01 pm

In post 5, Joan of Arc wrote:I solemnly swear that I am up to no good.

Mischief managed.

VOTE: Joan of Arc

Alchemist21 · Post Post #56 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:33 am

I'm noticing a lot of 2019 join dates. I'm hoping people don't get overwhelmed by the post volume and we don't end up in situation where half the game is getting replaced.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #58 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:58 am

They last closer to about 2 months.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #88 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:41 pm

In post 77, pisskop wrote:
In post 76, Flubbernugget wrote:Anyway. I'm a miller that commutes on odd nights
But
I'm
an odd night miller compulsive commuter[/i]

Is this a reference to a past game?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:37 am

In post 111, yurkin wrote:Knowing Flubbernugget probably fps

Fps?

In post 111, yurkin wrote:Knowing Flubbernugget probably fps

In post 109, Egix96 wrote:
In post 95, pisskop wrote:Sorry.

Flubber claimed miller, a town who return as investigated mafia.
He then claimed to commute on odd nights.
So we send a happy and friendly vigilante bullet his way tonight. Its a start.
If the claim is true though, isn't it a waste of a vigshot?

Miller claims are the perfect candidate for a vig shot, and it’s because Miller claims are difficult to prove to be true.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #148 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:01 am

In post 137, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 135, Very cool and not mafia wrote:
In post 131, Flubbernugget wrote:Let's say I am trying to he left alone today. What good does that do me as either alignment?
leaves you alond, duh
Dumb post

It's not dumb. Being left alone and staying under the radar has obvious benefits if you have strong Night actions.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #151 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:20 am

In post 146, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 140, Crimson97 wrote:
In post 40, pisskop wrote:
In post 38, yurkin wrote:Pisskop tell me about your meta, are you considered scummy player?
I 'like' scum roles, and enjoy them on occasion.
I 'lurk' or 'shitpost' a lot as either alignment.
I have a pretty good grasp on my meta, though with so many games under my belt I could theoretically cherrypick several games for any selfmeta.

idk what you want, are you asking me for self meta or an honest analysis?
Your recent meta would be the most useful I think.
You want them to explain their meta to you?

You realize how easy, and pisskop more or less admitted, that they know their meta..... to manipulate your own meta. What are we gaining from you asking them to provide?

If you really want it, search out their games. But your 'meta inquiry' comes off as disingenuous to me

I don't know if you realized it but there's 2 different people addressing Pisskop in this quote chain so I'm not sure which player's inquiry you're calling disingenuous.

That said there are a few other questionable things in Yurkin's posts and since the game needs a serious wagon we could start there.

VOTE: Yurkin

Alchemist21 · Post Post #152 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:20 am

In post 150, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 148, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 137, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 135, Very cool and not mafia wrote:
In post 131, Flubbernugget wrote:Let's say I am trying to he left alone today. What good does that do me as either alignment?
leaves you alond, duh
Dumb post
It's not dumb. Being left alone and staying under the radar has obvious benefits if you have strong Night actions.
HEAL: Flubbernugget
Now you can engage.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #180 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:20 am

In post 168, Very cool and not mafia wrote:what is so questionable in yurkin's posts? seems fine to me.

Well there’s the RVS unvote followed by a weak FOS.

In post 24, yurkin wrote:UNVOTE:

In post 37, yurkin wrote:
In post 25, Yodavader wrote:Hello everybody. VOTE: pisskop because you are at the top of the player list and I wanted that spot.
FoS on you, stiff entrance

This plus the meta inquiry both look like they don’t actually intend to scumhunt, just look like they are.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #185 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:02 am

My problem with the FOS is that they were willing to put down a meaningless vote in RVS but they aren’t voting a real suspicion when their vote isn’t on anyone.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #225 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:40 pm

In post 205, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 204, Very cool and not mafia wrote:TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

In post 204, Very cool and not mafia wrote:TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?
Well take a look at my walls of Numbers.
You’ll see Yurkin is in a Town Number Side.
Why you ask?
Because they have good content.
Most of Their posts have been really Townie.
I don’t see any wolfy posts in their ISO.

Not sure why Alchemist is pushing them TBH.
Their ISO is Null for Me RN as allot of their posts were not alignment indicative or they balanced out to Null.
I’ll Definitely Consider voting between Alchemist/Yurkin when Flubbernugget is lynched.
Although if I’m being completely honest. I’d rather vote Alchemist Over Yurkin almost always here.

What posts exactly do you think are good content from them?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #236 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:13 pm

In post 227, yurkin wrote:Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?

You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #238 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:15 pm

In post 230, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 225, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 205, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 204, Very cool and not mafia wrote:TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?

In post 204, Very cool and not mafia wrote:TSE, why do you think yurkin is town then?
Well take a look at my walls of Numbers.
You’ll see Yurkin is in a Town Number Side.
Why you ask?
Because they have good content.
Most of Their posts have been really Townie.
I don’t see any wolfy posts in their ISO.

Not sure why Alchemist is pushing them TBH.
Their ISO is Null for Me RN as allot of their posts were not alignment indicative or they balanced out to Null.
I’ll Definitely Consider voting between Alchemist/Yurkin when Flubbernugget is lynched.
Although if I’m being completely honest. I’d rather vote Alchemist Over Yurkin almost always here.
What posts exactly do you think are good content from them?
I’d say all of them that I remember.
What’s something that they actually said that pings them scummy to you?

I’ve already answered this.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #243 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:32 pm

In post 239, yurkin wrote:
In post 236, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 227, yurkin wrote:Uuh what has the FoS to do with Anything?
You were willing to place a vote for no reason, so why, while your vote was not on anyone, did you not vote someone you had suspicion on?

You can explain the unvote too but the unvote is the least relevant part of my argument; the unvote just highlights the fact that you had no reason not to vote the person you FOS’d because your vote was not tied to anyone.
Doesn't mafiascum has random vote stage existing? Calling rvs pointless and meaningless really doesn't mean much of anything as argument. Already answered that minute ago.

Also I vote whenever I please
I'd say you focus on something else, I still can't figure out if that's town concert or scum faking solving

In post 240, yurkin wrote:Really, insulting your own random vote stage is no good. Tho I'd admit I've done so before years on MC, my current opinion sees it as lazy backing up of arguments

Again you failed to address the main point of my argument. Why did you FOS instead of vote?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #247 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm

What is that reason?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #250 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm

In post 249, yurkin wrote:
In post 247, Alchemist21 wrote:What is that reason?
It doesn't concerns you

You’re just bullshitting at this point. You know that FOS is indefensible; that’s why when pressed on it you tried to shift focus away from it to your RVS actions and citing this unspecified reason when you couldn’t shift the focus.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #262 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:20 pm

In post 259, yurkin wrote:I'd like some explanation why you were that stuck to why I have voted/unvoted, like no other players exist in this game

FoS exist to replace voting at some places, trying to excuse my FoS lmao

It showed that you were willing to place a vote and that your vote was not on anybody when you made the FOS.

This is not the first time I have said this.

If the next votecount shows that your claim is true then I will take my vote off of you.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #263 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:23 pm

In post 261, yurkin wrote:
In post 250, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 249, yurkin wrote:
In post 247, Alchemist21 wrote:What is that reason?
It doesn't concerns you
You’re just bullshitting at this point. You know that FOS is indefensible; that’s why when pressed on it you tried to shift focus away from it to your RVS actions and citing this unspecified reason when you couldn’t shift the focus.
Why the hell do I need to defend a FoS

Because that’s what I was pushing you for.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #266 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:37 pm

In post 264, yurkin wrote:
In post 262, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 259, yurkin wrote:I'd like some explanation why you were that stuck to why I have voted/unvoted, like no other players exist in this game

FoS exist to replace voting at some places, trying to excuse my FoS lmao
It showed that you were willing to place a vote and that your vote was not on anybody when you made the FOS.

This is not the first time I have said this.

If the next votecount shows that your claim is true then I will take my vote off of you.
You cling to that FoS on mine, do you even have opinions outside of me.

I do but they’re not what I’m focusing on right now.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #276 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:56 pm

In post 269, yurkin wrote:
In post 266, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 264, yurkin wrote:
In post 262, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 259, yurkin wrote:I'd like some explanation why you were that stuck to why I have voted/unvoted, like no other players exist in this game

FoS exist to replace voting at some places, trying to excuse my FoS lmao
It showed that you were willing to place a vote and that your vote was not on anybody when you made the FOS.

This is not the first time I have said this.

If the next votecount shows that your claim is true then I will take my vote off of you.
You cling to that FoS on mine, do you even have opinions outside of me.
I do but they’re not what I’m focusing on right now.
Mhm did I missed something

I haven’t stated any additional opinions because they’re weaker and were less important than pushing a suspicious slot and getting an early wagon going. Your reaction was horrible and I’m obviously not going to just let you go because of “reasons that are of no concern to me.”

If you want some extra opinions:

I think Doctor Drew was Towny for addressing the self meta inquiries.

I think Totally Cool and Not Mafia has the kind of laid back tone that comes from a certain type of Town player - they’re calm but also freely put their opinions out there, and are usually good at working towards Town cohesion.

I’m still concerned that TrueSoul never actually specified why they think you’re Towny but Cool started pushing them on it and I had nothing to add, plus I was focusing on you at the time.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #277 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:00 pm

In post 268, pisskop wrote:Alchemist has been present and forceful I feel

In a good way or a bad way?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #310 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:50 am

UNVOTE:

Alchemist21 · Post Post #311 (isolation #22) » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:14 am

I’m going to sheep Drew and Cool on Crimson.

VOTE: Crimson

I could vote TrueSoul too but I’d rather build actual wagons instead of vanity vote and also on revisiting their ISO I kinda liked their case on Flubber in [post]156[/v].

Alchemist21 · Post Post #318 (isolation #23) » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:47 pm

In post 316, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 311, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m going to sheep Drew and Cool on Crimson.

VOTE: Crimson

I could vote TrueSoul too but I’d rather build actual wagons instead of vanity vote and also on revisiting their ISO I kinda liked their case on Flubber in [post]156[/v].
Yet you were so keen to Lynch Yurkin, now you stop when the wagon gets going?
“Could vote TrueSoul too” LOL.
IMO keeping Flubbernugget around will hurt Town more then it’ll help.

I said I would unvote if his claim was proven true. Knowing he’s a doublevoter, I can understand why he did what he did.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #332 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:27 am

In post 331, Very cool and not mafia wrote:also how did you expect to hide this for a long time

This puzzles me too because they joined the site 2 years ago and should know better, but after interacting with her I think her logical ability is bad enough that she actually thought she could hide it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #380 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 pm

Egix, what are your reads right now?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #384 (isolation #26) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:23 am

In post 383, Egix96 wrote:
In post 382, Very cool and not mafia wrote:gyro scum? he hasnt done anything yet, do you think its scum indicative for them or did you see anything in particular?
But he's the Mafia Jailkeeper, remember? He even said so himself

I haven't played a game with them before, so no, it's not meta or anything.

Is that really the reason? Or is there something else?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #386 (isolation #27) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:58 am

Alchemist21 · Post Post #417 (isolation #28) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:22 am

In post 393, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 388, Egix96 wrote:
In post 384, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 383, Egix96 wrote:
In post 382, Very cool and not mafia wrote:gyro scum? he hasnt done anything yet, do you think its scum indicative for them or did you see anything in particular?
But he's the Mafia Jailkeeper, remember? He even said so himself

I haven't played a game with them before, so no, it's not meta or anything.
Is that really the reason?
Admittedly, yes.
In a weird way, I get town vibes from Egix. I would think scum would at least throw something together when trying to explain a 'scum read'.

It feels like Egix isn’t really trying though. I asked about their reads because they’ve been around but not doing much.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #419 (isolation #29) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:12 am

There are quite a few lurky slots in this game. I’m glad the game is easier to keep up with but the game’s pace really needs to pick up a bit.

Crimson is actually a good example of what I’d like to see. He came back and made a lot of meaningful posts, going from 9 to 21 in post count. If everyone with less than 15 posts could do that then the game would be much better off.

UNVOTE:

I’ll probably wait until Wake enters the thread before voting again, assuming that happens within the next 24 hours.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #429 (isolation #30) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:15 am

In post 427, Doctor Drew wrote:Ah ok, I do remember that now.....thanks.

That being said, never like that strategy.

Vig the lurkers ok, but never like lynch all lurkers.

We’ve got to do something to get their activity up though. Right now there are too many lurkers and there isn’t enough content being put into the game. I know actually lynching them all isn’t viable but the threat of doing so should spur some of them into action. I personally would rather they post more voluntarily but we can’t let the game stay stagnant.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #473 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:28 pm

In post 465, Flubbernugget wrote:Yo i finally found something that caught my interest you fuckers need to post now

What is it? You can’t just drop this and leave us hanging.

Where is Wake? I thought he was going to post last night.

Flippy’s catch up is just one post on the next page from his starting point. And then Blatant Scum has been plain useless.

Gamma’a doing it right.

VOTE: Flippy

Could easily go on Blatant Scum too.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #476 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:37 pm

^Why?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #570 (isolation #33) » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:34 pm

I’ve played with Gamma lots of times as both alignments. This doesn’t seem out of the ordinary to me.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #583 (isolation #34) » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:48 pm

In post 571, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 570, Alchemist21 wrote:I’ve played with Gamma lots of times as both alignments. This doesn’t seem out of the ordinary to me.
Do you have experience with scum Pisskop?

I have 2 or 3 games with Pisskop but I can’t remember if he was scum in any of them.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #594 (isolation #35) » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:59 pm

In post 590, pisskop wrote:Gams, the truth is i dont have a case on you.

but sure as hell do you have a defense

What’s scummy about that? It’s a reasonable reaction to an accusation based on incorrect meta.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #622 (isolation #36) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:54 am

In post 620, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I feel like emperor is getting way too much Vote appeal.
At this point I don’t think he’s scum.
I think a recent player being voted is however scum.

Like Gyro, Flubbernugget or PK.
(I’m loyal to my Flubbernugget vote)

@Yurkin can you please vote someone who isn’t Debil.
I am aware you to believe Debil is scum but there is 4 scum in this game.
We could always Lynch Debil later if you still believe them to be scum.
But right now, Town needs their Double Voter!

There’s nothing from Flippy that makes me want to change my vote and I don’t think the large wagon is a bad thing.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #716 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:59 pm

In post 698, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 450, The Baker wrote:

Day 1 ends on November 13th, 2019 at 12:00am EST in (expired on 2019-11-13 00:00:00)
Hurry up with the lynch. Decide in 2 days, please.
I don't want to see what is happening in Calendar mafia in this game too.

What are your reads?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #765 (isolation #38) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:37 am

In post 755, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 716, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 698, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 450, The Baker wrote:

Day 1 ends on November 13th, 2019 at 12:00am EST in (expired on 2019-11-13 00:00:00)
Hurry up with the lynch. Decide in 2 days, please.
I don't want to see what is happening in Calendar mafia in this game too.
What are your reads?
Awww, why everyone forces me to do reads? I am a bad reader.
Additionally, I feel very lost in this game in particular, because there is no mayor/ leader.

It doesn’t help to just tell everyone to hurry up with the lynch and not give any significant push towards a lynch yourself. It’s also harder to read you without you trying to form reads.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #766 (isolation #39) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:38 am

In post 758, pisskop wrote:
In post 750, Crimson97 wrote:VOTE: pisskop

I'd have to check Gamma's metal but if two people say he always plays like he's playing, i believe it. Scum wouldn't expose themselves like that.

In post 710, pisskop wrote:it's when I am universally townread that you should be concerned

In post 711, pisskop wrote:not when i aim to offend as a habit
Also i don't like these.
who said gams is playing like always? show me so that I might call them liars

I’m one of the ones who said it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #767 (isolation #40) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:43 am

In post 760, The Baker wrote:Seeking replacement for Very cool and not mafia, since they didn't pick up their prod.

Aww. I really liked that guy.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #782 (isolation #41) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:17 pm

I never left the site.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #785 (isolation #42) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:29 pm

Maybe if you count being dead in my last game and not joining a new one until it was over as a hiatus.

Why do you think Gamma’s different here than normal?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #787 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:52 pm

I don’t think the rhetoric is out of character. And Gamma had the best catchup of all the replacements.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #833 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:38 am

In post 825, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 753, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 606, Looker wrote:
In post 520, pisskop wrote:looker, do you agree with me re:flub?
No.

For Anyone Willing To Answer
Are we allowed to ask and/or discuss how many mafia members we think there are?

If you were scum, what lengths would you go to derail a bandwagon? This is assuming it's on one of your less experienced scum members.
4.
I would try to defend my partner a little. But I am more focusing on behaving towny than defending my team as scum.

In post 754, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 649, Looker wrote:Is spamming an effective scum tactic to decrease town engagement in the thread?
People who spam usually spam as eitehr alignment, so spamming is NAI.
And yes, spamming help scum, because it makes it harder for town to catch up.
Hm
I kinda think Looker is a decent counter to EFN
Questioning just feels empty to me
VOTE: Looker

Looker is slightly Towny to me.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #842 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:23 am

Hi Titus!

Alchemist21 · Post Post #862 (isolation #46) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:13 pm

Hi jj!

The number of familiar faces in this game has drastically grown.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #890 (isolation #47) » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:40 am

I’d be ok with a Flubber lynch.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #895 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:50 am

VOTE: Flubber

Alchemist21 · Post Post #980 (isolation #49) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:26 am

In post 979, yurkin wrote:Blatant Scum is probably town

How so?

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:26 am

In post 1002, Lavender wrote:
In post 998, Blatant Scum wrote:Nah, I am too scummy to be a scum.

In post 999, jjh927 wrote:There is no such thing as being too scummy to be scum
Indeed, VOTE: Blatant Scum for admitting they were scummy.

Is this a serious vote or are we reverting back to RVS?

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:28 am

Ninja’d me to say the same thing with more words. Brevity has failed me.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1029 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:15 pm

In post 1023, Doctor Drew wrote:Jesus Lavender....you are voting the leading wagon partially because RVS?

I can't process this, crazily is a town tell now for me. I can't see a scum lavender being so brazen.

Would DEB put in a jester? Was this known as bastardy going in?

The game was advertised as Deb-level bastard. I have no idea what qualifies as Deb-level.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1062 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:52 am

In post 1050, Crimson97 wrote:I read that as a joke tbh, since BS had just been sheep voted by Titus.

This has been my thinking as well and I don’t like the votes that got put on him because of it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1147 (isolation #54) » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:36 am

In post 1132, Lavender wrote:
In post 1130, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Who wants me to make a Gut Reads list?
Sounds fun.

Has the timer thing started up again?

Yes. We have 2 days left.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1214 (isolation #55) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:10 pm

I never really liked the way that wagon built on BS. That said I’m not entirely opposed to a Blatant lynch because of his posts before the “too scummy to be scum” remark. I still prefer Flubber here because it’s not a good idea to lynch a Doc claim before a Miller claim.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1227 (isolation #56) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:18 pm

Oh are we gonna do the thing where we assume the game can be solved by flavor claims? That always works out well.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1244 (isolation #57) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:35 pm

Yes it is.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1257 (isolation #58) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:43 pm

In post 1248, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1246, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1244, Alchemist21 wrote:Yes it is.
No, it's not
Because if it is, my ability is completely useless and that isn't true

Well if you’re some kind of Flavor Cop it’s still flavor, just maybe more useful than in 99% of other games.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1259 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:46 pm

Nicely. Flavor is useless in most games, but if there’s a Flavor Cop then maybe it isn’t useless here.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1264 (isolation #60) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:49 pm

In post 1262, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1257, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1248, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1246, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1244, Alchemist21 wrote:Yes it is.
No, it's not
Because if it is, my ability is completely useless and that isn't true
Well if you’re some kind of Flavor Cop it’s still flavor, just maybe more useful than in 99% of other games.
Flavor cops are a thing?
I might be wrong y'all

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flavor_Cop

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1272 (isolation #61) » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:05 pm

In post 1271, jjh927 wrote:Fwiw JV is locktown now

I agree.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1319 (isolation #62) » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:10 am

If you’re Town you need to give final thoughts before the thread gets locked.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1332 (isolation #63) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:46 am

Let’s start here.

VOTE: Pisskop

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1336 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:58 am

In post 1333, pisskop wrote:Y

Your wagon had a bit of resistance yesterday. More than the other wagons did. I want to explore that lead.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1338 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:59 am

Oh really? Now I’m even more interested. Will it lead to all your partners?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1341 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:25 am

Give me one good reason why I should trust you.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1346 (isolation #67) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:28 am

In post 1343, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1341, Alchemist21 wrote:Give me one good reason why I should trust you.
You should trust pisskop because if you read through his iso you should be able to see he is town

Hmm, interesting counterpoint. I think I will trust him now.

...

Nah.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1348 (isolation #68) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:31 am

Hello.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1352 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:34 am

Sure but I also wanna know who else will come defend their buddy Pisskop.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1353 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:34 am

That last post is @jj

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1356 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:37 am

In post 1354, jjh927 wrote:Are you pushing pisskop because it's easy to do and you don't have to commit to saying anything about the resistance to the wagon other than that it was there and you think you'll get people joining the wagon for policy reasons?

Are you defending him because it’s easy to do and you don’t have to commit to saying anything but “look at his iso?”

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1358 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:39 am

In post 1355, jjh927 wrote:Do you still scumread Flub?

A little bit, yeah.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1360 (isolation #73) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:44 am

Because I’ve seen scum wagons competing before. Tore the game in half for 2 Day phases.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1366 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:58 am

In post 1361, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I’m gonna hard Claim Tracker.
Alchemist visited PK.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1368 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:01 am

In post 1364, pisskop wrote:I also struggle to think of why he votes me out of gate when the kill happened.

What correlation would that have?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1372 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:04 am

In post 1369, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:He threw a vote on PK.
They visited PK.

You know most people would draw a different conclusion from these 2 facts.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1373 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:05 am

In post 1367, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1364, pisskop wrote:I also struggle to think of why he votes me out of gate when the kill happened.
Yeah, especially when I think it would make more sense for him to go Titus first.

What does Titus have to do with any of this?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1376 (isolation #78) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:14 am

Yes. That much is obvious by now. Hence the party pooper gif.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1380 (isolation #79) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:18 am

In post 1378, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1373, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1367, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1364, pisskop wrote:I also struggle to think of why he votes me out of gate when the kill happened.
Yeah, especially when I think it would make more sense for him to go Titus first.
What does Titus have to do with any of this?
vvv

In post 1186, Titus wrote:We aren't doing pisskop.

I have mod confirmation Pisskop is town.
I'm presuming that you're not believing it.

Oh. Yeah I didn’t put any stock into that post and forgot about it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1383 (isolation #80) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:21 am

In post 1381, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1380, Alchemist21 wrote:Oh. Yeah I didn’t put any stock into that post and forgot about it.
Sighhh

I’ve seen bigger lies from Town. You can’t really blame me for not taking something so vague at face value.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1384 (isolation #81) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:22 am

In post 1382, pisskop wrote:and yet no unvote and no explaination.

And now we have several outed TIs.

If you reciprocate that mod confirmed TR on Titus then maybe I’ll unvote.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1387 (isolation #82) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:26 am

Interesting.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1390 (isolation #83) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:34 am

In post 1388, pisskop wrote:Alchi I again ask: do you have a guilty on me?

You just rolefished. Not a good look.

It’s not a hard 100% for sure guilty. But it’s close enough to be pushing it and if I were scum I would already know exactly what you are.

And I like to string my guilties along and get a bit more info from them.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1393 (isolation #84) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:48 am

In post 1391, pisskop wrote:Right. So youve got shit, and ignored heavy crumbs from both titus and i that the other is town.

Where are your crumbs? You wouldn’t reciprocate when I asked.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:02 am

So now you reciprocate after voting me and not when you were Townreading me?

I’m the one with the guilty, the one with the power in this dynamic. Why couldn’t you level with me sooner?

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:17 am

In post 1397, Blatant Scum wrote:What happened?
Did Alchemist claim anything?

I’ve got something of a guilty on Pisskop and he’s being quite difficult with any attempts at clearing himself. You should vote him.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:38 am

In post 1400, Blatant Scum wrote:Just to make sure. TSE isn't something like lound tracker, right? Does tracked know whether he was tracked or not?

I didn’t know I was tracked until TSE claimed it.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:51 am

Probably about 80%.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:45 am

In post 1415, Doctor Drew wrote:I have been head banging too much and killed some brain cells......but what is a TI?

Also forgot about Blatants ignorance to glorious metal music(still need to PL for this).

Also, toDay started hottt......need a little bit to catch up.

TI = Town Investigative

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:09 pm

What kind of 3rd party investigates?

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:14 pm

True I guess. I don’t usually think of 3rd parties having investigative powers though.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:29 pm

Town (in no particular order):
Gamma
Drew
TSE
Yurkin
Jackson
Blatant

Scum:
You
Wake
Flubber

Anyone else is null. I’m not sure where to put Titus anymore. I want to put them as Town but your flip could change that.

And I’m not interested in lynching Flubber anymore because now that he’s past the immunity window I can resolve him this Night.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1434 (isolation #93) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:35 pm

In post 1431, pisskop wrote:what's flubber do.

its not his claim

Well, Flubber did nothing and that’s kind of the problem.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1436 (isolation #94) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:51 pm

What even is your point? Why are you trying to talk about Flubber here?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1442 (isolation #95) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:59 pm

In post 1438, pisskop wrote:Its well established site meta that we policy the miller in lylo. Why are you seriously claiming he is an SR to push?

fuckoff

I also said I’m not interested in pushing him because I can resolve him tonight. Why are you getting angry over nothing?

In post 1439, pisskop wrote:You have a relatively arbitrary list of TRs and zero SRs. 3P is what you likely are.

Last time I checked 3 is greater than 0.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1444 (isolation #96) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:00 pm

In post 1443, pisskop wrote:Its garbage filler alchi

Then stop talking about it.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1448 (isolation #97) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:05 pm

In post 1445, pisskop wrote:Wake, the non-existent wake, is the least risky SR you could ever make.

You literally just tried to shame me for discussing your flubber 'SR', and Im actively being defended by half the playerbase -for a reason-.

You have, what, 2 defenders? Hardly half.

In post 1446, pisskop wrote:
In post 1444, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1443, pisskop wrote:Its garbage filler alchi
Then stop talking about it.
Youre pushing garbage filler.

Well that’s not a nice thing to say about yourself. You may be scum but you are not garbage.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1451 (isolation #98) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:45 pm

In post 1450, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1448, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1445, pisskop wrote:Wake, the non-existent wake, is the least risky SR you could ever make.

You literally just tried to shame me for discussing your flubber 'SR', and Im actively being defended by half the playerbase -for a reason-.
You have, what, 2 defenders? Hardly half.

In post 1446, pisskop wrote:
In post 1444, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1443, pisskop wrote:Its garbage filler alchi
Then stop talking about it.
Youre pushing garbage filler.
Well that’s not a nice thing to say about yourself. You may be scum but you are not garbage.
A post like this makes we wanna lynch you regardless of alignment.

Why?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1454 (isolation #99) » Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:49 pm

In post 1452, pisskop wrote:Its scummy deflection.

No, deflection is asking for my other reads and then attacking them when I’m pushing you.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:51 pm

In post 1456, pisskop wrote:
In post 1454, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1452, pisskop wrote:Its scummy deflection.
No, deflection is asking for my other reads and then attacking them when I’m pushing you.
You dont have a case

Even better, I have a guilty.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:52 pm

In post 1457, pisskop wrote:You cant soft a guilty when Titus went and hard confed me.

Except why should I think it’s really confirmed?

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:56 pm

In post 1460, pisskop wrote:
In post 1458, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1456, pisskop wrote:
In post 1454, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1452, pisskop wrote:Its scummy deflection.
No, deflection is asking for my other reads and then attacking them when I’m pushing you.
You dont have a case
Even better, I have a guilty.
oh really, a guilty on a mason?

See, this is what I was waiting for. That 20% chance that could make you not scum. You seemed like you wanted to say it but seemed so hesitant to lock in that association. Now why did we have to go through all this trouble?

Yes, I am a PT Cop and I saw that you have a PT. And tonight I can see if Flubber had one.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Wake

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:59 pm

In post 1468, pisskop wrote:Did he really just claim that he didnt account for fuckin' hoods?

I was accounting for it. It’s what made that “mod-confirmed” claim from Titus weird because you wouldn’t reciprocate it.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:06 pm

In post 1474, pisskop wrote:Weve seen no evidence for 3p or balls, and futhermore no evidence that no evidence that its bastard.

I agree about the lack of 3p evidence.

The game was advertised as Deb-level bastard in signups though which Drew said meant “cults” last time. Idk what it means this time.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:08 pm

In post 1476, pisskop wrote:Also why the fuck would town alchemist push masons to out themselves?

Because maybe you weren’t masons. Maybe, when we already have a Doc, Tracker, and TI claim out there a Mason claim isn’t the worst thing in the world to out.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:14 pm

In post 1479, pisskop wrote:fair enough.

given our presence I expect a cult.

I don’t think I’ve played a game with a cult before and I don’t know how to deal with them. Do they get PT’s? The wiki page doesn’t clarify and for some reason I had the impression that they don’t.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:18 pm

In post 1481, pisskop wrote:Im incredibly irritated with you pushing for us to claim. We all saw you doing it.

You would have had to claim regardless because the wagon would have gone to L-1 anyway. And like I said before, if I were scum then the entire scumteam would already know you’re Masons from my result and would have just quietly worked with that info.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:58 pm

In post 1489, pisskop wrote:I think a wake wagon is so low effort.

we can do better. We have like 7 claimed roles by now.

I want to take another look at the Lavender wagon actually because it kind of came out of nowhere.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:00 pm

Don’t think I can look at it tonight though. This headache is getting the better of me.

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 6:54 am

In post 1521, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 1511, Lavender wrote:I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?
I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:02 am

That makes no sense.

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:10 am

The second part. If I’m protecting someone it means I already Townread them and don’t need to reaction test just because I didn’t stop the kill. And for fucks sake as a Doc I’m not going to be interested in their claim. Nothing about the way I played this should say “Protective role” to anyone.

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:22 am

Spoiler: All the Lavender Votes in Order

Now I need to look back at all these people for their thoughts on Lavender before this. I know Drew was on Lavender for a while before this, and I remember Lavender making a weird RVS-style vote on Blatant.

A lot of these voters claimed a scumread on Lavender and I don’t remember them saying it before this.

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:45 am

Ok I've looked through these ISO's.

Drew's vote is the best-looking. He's been on Lavender since early in the game and kept returning to the Lavender wagon because he never like their posts. I see it as Town who got a bad first impression and confbiased on the slot for the rest of the game.

Jackson's vote was ok. Certainly not the worst. He's had a scumread on Lavender since he entered the game and was voting it except when he thought he was counterclaiming Blatant.

Gamma's vote was ok. Agreed with Drew early on then forgot about Lavender after that. Coming back to the wagon EoD is understandable.

Blatant's vote is in a neutral spot. There was a time when Drew pointed out a lack of support for the Lavender wagon before the EoD wagon happened. Blatant made a personal note to look at that later, but he was part of that lack of support. Then Lavender did the RVS-style thing. I'm not really sure what Blatant's real feelings were on Lavender. Mostly it looks like it was a combination of deadline rush and OMGUS that made him vote Lavender in the end, but maybe he had a small scumread there in the back of his mind.

Egix didn't like Drew's push on Lavender and called Lavender low hanging fruit Town. But he's the one who put the EoD wagon over the halfway mark. A lot of time passed between that opinion on Drew's push and the vote but I don't like the discrepancy there. Other wagons had support at the time, why not vote one of them instead of someone he had called LHF Town?

Jj, Yoda, Titus, and Wake all had no prior mention of Lavender in their ISO's. Yoda and Wake had said they just wanted to get the lynch through, and Wake hammered without a claim. Titus is a claimed Mason. JJ's vote kickstarted the EoD wagon, but I don't know why he chose Lavender. Out if this group, I'd say JJ's and Wake's votes are the worst. I think Wake's is worse than JJ's.

Egix, JJ, and Wake are the ones I'm suspicious of from this wagon. I'm already voting Wake so I'll keep my vote there.

@JJ, why did you re-start the wagon on Lavender?
@Egix, why did you vote someone you had claimed a Townread on? Why not one of the other wagons during that time?
@Wake, why did you hammer without a claim, only 20 minutes after the L-1 vote?

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:29 pm

I’m sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon.

Alchemist21 · Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:48 pm

Alchemist21 · Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:16 pm

VOTE: Egix

Alchemist21 · Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:44 am

In post 1728, Looker wrote:I don't get this form of troubleshooting. This is more of a collaborative thought process as opposed to forming a case, submitting it, and having it be debunked. I'm honestly having trouble keeping up.

What are you referring to here?

Alchemist21 · Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:45 am

In post 1725, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1723, pisskop wrote:still think wake has scum points ftr..

Hope you stick around wake. one day, one day Ill be less busy.
I just can't keep up with these games, and it's exhausting.

Can you at least explain why you hammered Lavender 20 minutes after L-1 before they could claim?

Alchemist21 · Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:06 am

In post 1705, yurkin wrote:As if scum couldn't possibly had scum read on lavender prior to that wagon formation

Which slot do you think was scum that was already scumreading Lavender? When half the wagon came out of nowhere I see it as a prime place to look for scum.

Alchemist21 · Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:57 pm

In post 1777, Titus wrote:Yeah, we've had a lot of discussion regarding the masonry. I literally had just clarified the mason claim. Gamma pops in with a question of "is the masonry real"? He's had s history of odd, sheepy pop-ins like that.

Second, Gamma's alignment links to Alch. If Gamma flips scum, then verifying Alch's role (more likely than not) verifies his alignment.

How exactly is Gamma linked to me? I don’t really get what you’re saying here.

Alchemist21 · Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:30 pm

In post 1810, Titus wrote:I am also ok with a Drew lynch for ~reasons~.

What reasons?

Alchemist21 · Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:10 am

In post 1846, Titus wrote:
In post 1842, JacksonVirgo wrote:Apologies if I am not very active the next few days. Have been having trouble at home and I'd rather just rest my soul and settle my mental health. I will of course check this daily to give my input on stuff and answer any questions but I won't be on for very long. Sorry y'all but thanks for understanding
I understand Jackson. My mental health is just starting to come back. Do what you need. Any post about your mental health will always be NAI.

I haven't had the pleasure of knowing you long, but you seem to be pretty cool. Take care of yourself first.

Everyone, I am thankful for all of you today. I won't be posting much today. Enjoy your lives. You've improved mine.

<3

Alchemist21 · Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:47 am

I hope things get better for you soon Jackson.

Alchemist21 · Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:33 am

Having that extra hour is crucial.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:50 am

It’ll probably be Monday before this game picks up again.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:35 pm

In post 1907, Eve wrote:I don't think making someone panic claim like that is a very towny thing to do but I can already see how people will find this funny...

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Jackson didn’t claim what Blatant told you he did but he did claim the role you just claimed. There really wasn’t much risk to what Blatant did - a good number of us already had Jackson as Town because of how his claim came out.

...But it was funny.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:36 pm

Oh yeah P.S. the role Blatant said your slot claimed is actually the role Flubber claimed.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:41 pm

You could say he was full of bs.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:47 pm

In post 1914, Eve wrote:UNVOTE:

Did flubber claim their Miller role day 1?

Yes

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:06 pm

In post 1928, jjh927 wrote:Wow fuck all happened while I was gone

It’s Thanksgiving time in the states.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:34 pm

In post 1935, Eve wrote:
In post 1933, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Would anyone like to request me to track someone.

@Eve
BTW I’m Tracker who seen Alchemist Visit PK last night.
Ok has Alchemist claimed anything to explain that?

PT Cop.

Alchemist21 · Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:54 pm

He does.

He and Titus are claimed Masons.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:23 am

In post 2061, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well I’m not going to let that claimed mason coast on a shitty push.

Nobody else is going to join a Titus wagon.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:35 am

In post 2074, Creature wrote:
In post 56, Alchemist21 wrote:I'm noticing a lot of 2019 join dates. I'm hoping people don't get overwhelmed by the post volume and we don't end up in situation where half the game is getting replaced.
wtf Alchemist3144, are you high?

Do you have a problem with that post or are you just commenting on the fact half the game got replaced anyway?

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:38 am

In post 2081, Creature wrote:
In post 2079, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2074, Creature wrote:
In post 56, Alchemist21 wrote:I'm noticing a lot of 2019 join dates. I'm hoping people don't get overwhelmed by the post volume and we don't end up in situation where half the game is getting replaced.
wtf Alchemist3144, are you high?
Do you have a problem with that post or are you just commenting on the fact half the game got replaced anyway?
lol they did?

Yeah, look at the OP. lmao

In post 2082, Creature wrote:Also thought 2019 join dates would be more hype to post volume

Generally players prior to 2013 are the ones who can't handle the weight

Maybe the new gen is just different then. I was definitely overwhelmed in my first large theme.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:45 am

In post 2087, Creature wrote:Also, Alchemist, why are you even being cleared?

I'm a PT Cop.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:57 am

In post 1951, Blatant Scum wrote:BS - doctor
JackonVirgo- Flavour Cop
TSE -tracker
Yurkin- double voter [vanillized]
Alchemist- PT cop
Flubbernugget - odd night commuting miller
Pisskop/ Titus - mason

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:06 am

In post 2100, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 2098, Creature wrote:Also I'm feeling like claiming rn

Should I?
If you feel that it will help town, yes.

Fucking hell, no don't claim, Creature.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:07 am

Like we have a lot of claims but most of them came today because the roles interacted with each other.

The Doc claim came from an L-1 claim.

We're not massclaiming right now.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:11 am

In post 2111, Creature wrote:
In post 2108, Blatant Scum wrote:Well, things like PGO or unblockable bg are good things to claim.
My claim will barely contribute with anything meaningful, but at least it shall lock me in a claim and make me a less tasty lynch?

Frankly I think you've made yourself obvTown now to anyone who's familiar with you.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:13 am

In post 2119, Creature wrote:
In post 2116, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2111, Creature wrote:
In post 2108, Blatant Scum wrote:Well, things like PGO or unblockable bg are good things to claim.
My claim will barely contribute with anything meaningful, but at least it shall lock me in a claim and make me a less tasty lynch?
Frankly I think you've made yourself obvTown now to anyone who's familiar with you.
idk, are you thinking of my old meta of lowposting as scum every game?

Yes. It held up the last time I played with scum you.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:16 am

In post 2123, Creature wrote:
In post 2121, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2119, Creature wrote:
In post 2116, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2111, Creature wrote:
In post 2108, Blatant Scum wrote:Well, things like PGO or unblockable bg are good things to claim.
My claim will barely contribute with anything meaningful, but at least it shall lock me in a claim and make me a less tasty lynch?
Frankly I think you've made yourself obvTown now to anyone who's familiar with you.
idk, are you thinking of my old meta of lowposting as scum every game?
Yes. It held up the last time I played with scum you.
More or less how much did I post that last time?

Less than you've done here.

You also negged the Town which was also telling. Give me a minute and I'll find the game.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:17 am

Here it is.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80012

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:23 am

In post 2133, Creature wrote:
In post 2092, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1951, Blatant Scum wrote:BS - doctor
JackonVirgo- Flavour Cop
TSE -tracker
Yurkin- double voter [vanillized]
Alchemist- PT cop
Flubbernugget - odd night commuting miller
Pisskop/ Titus - mason
JacksonVirgo isn't flavorcop? He's more like a guitar cop?

He checks for instrument, which is part of the flavor in this game. Then Eve amended the claim with the "Bassist doesn't count" bit.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:03 am

In post 2154, Gamma Emerald wrote:Whatever
VOTE: Creature
But I’m legit blacklisting you after this game, that’s how shitty your play these days is

wtf

I don't see what Creature's done that's even remotely blacklist worthy.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:04 am

Like do you two have prior beef because that anger looks like it came out of nowhere.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:14 am

Oh. My bad.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:19 am

In post 2167, Creature wrote:I'm not neighborized btw and if you investigate me I will show up as no PT

I can pair two players into a neighborhood though

Wait, are you saying it doesn't put you in the neighborhood you make?

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:06 am

UNVOTE:

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:56 am

Well TSE just got a mafia ban so now they’ll need replacing too. This game is cursed with replacements.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:45 pm

Hi Chennisden.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:23 pm

In post 2257, Creature wrote:pisskop - mason
Flubbernugget - commuter something
jjh927
Doctor Drew
Gamma Emerald
Egix96
TrueSoulEnergy - tracker
yurkin - doubelvoter
Eve - flavorcop
Blatant Scum - doctor
Creature - neighborizer
Looker
YodaVader
Alchemist21 - PT cop
Titus - mason

This is a list of claims so far.

Add to this that Egix is a revealed Innocent Child.

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:10 am

In post 2323, Titus wrote:
In post 2321, Creature wrote:
In post 2313, pisskop wrote:Some town would.

Intrinsic and passive vanillaizers can exist.
It's quite obvious we have a fucking scum aligned vanillaizer and they're refusing to claim
I disagree. I can't see why the mod gives a vanillaizer with masons and an IC. What would a vanillaizer stop?

The PT Cop
The Doc
The Tracker
The Doublevoter it already stopped

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:11 am

Oh and the flavor cop. That one slipped my mind.

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:08 am

From the ban thread:

TrueSoulEnergy has been banned from mafia for one month (29 days, 20 hours, 52 minutes) for continuing to post in a game after they were dead in the game, publicly discussing replacing out, insulting other users, and threatening to violate site rules, despite previous warnings. He will need to be replaced in any game he is currently in.

This extends to all of his alt accounts as well:

TheCaustic
MegaMagikarp
Usui

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:28 pm

In post 2506, Doctor Drew wrote:Probably drugged me as well ....didn't mind that part tbh

Ummm...

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:29 pm

Drew do we need to talk about your high-risk behaviors?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:30 pm

In post 2504, Creature wrote:Zzzzz just indicates Alchewits is scum but more claims would be entertaining

Explain how another Neighborizer claim makes me scum?

@Gamma

Why didn’t you counterclaim sooner?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:45 pm

In post 2510, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2508, Alchemist21 wrote:Drew do we need to talk about your high-risk behaviors?
Please elaborate.

Most people would mind being drugged.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:06 am

I’m ok with hammering this.

VOTE: Gamma

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:44 pm

Creature who did you Neighborize?

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:00 pm

In post 2622, Creature wrote:I forgot to :/

If this is true that’s actually kind of hilarious.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:18 pm

In post 2627, Looker wrote:
Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 2622, Creature wrote:I forgot to :/
If this is true that’s actually kind of hilarious.
The adamance with which he urged everyone to claim doesn't line up with simply forgetting to perform a night action. You appeared intensely focused beforehand.

VOTE: Flubbernugget If there's nothing good to come from Flubbernugget, I'd like him replaced, but
FoS:Creature

I’ve seen Creature forget to do actions before and that coupled with Wake apparently also forgetting it’s hilarious.

Also I can tell you Flub is innocent.

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:15 am

In post 2646, Blatant Scum wrote:Alchemist, were you vanilised?

No

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:44 am

In post 2656, Blatant Scum wrote:Chances are that Vanillaizer can steal the power he drains, or at least get a piece of information about who he drained.

Where'd you get that idea?

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:57 am

I don't know, but assuming a vanillaizer steals power is a huge assumption to make.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:09 am

VOTE: Looker

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:37 pm

Looker, I have given my result already when I said Flubber is innocent. This was pointed out again to BS by Titus just before that big post of yours. I am voting you because you have ignored the result and continue to vote Flubber, and the first time you were called out for this you tried to pass it off as some kind of reminder to yourself. I don’t see your actions here as coming from Town.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:28 pm

I said early on D2 I could check Flubber. Checking the Miller claim is a common sense move.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:36 pm

In post 2706, Looker wrote:
In post 2704, Alchemist21 wrote:Looker, I have given my result already when I said Flubber is innocent. This was pointed out again to BS by Titus just before that big post of yours. I am voting you because you have ignored the result and continue to vote Flubber, and the first time you were called out for this you tried to pass it off as some kind of reminder to yourself. I don’t see your actions here as coming from Town.
I have no reason to believe you or your results.

I thought the plan was for you to check
me
last night for a PT.
In post 2607, Titus wrote:Well, Alchemist can check
Looker
for a PT.
I also don't feel that bad distrusting you, knowing that I'm not alone.
In post 2614, Titus wrote:
In post 2608, Creature wrote:I don't trust Alchemist at all though
That's the beauty. We don't need to trust him. We'll confirm his results at lylo plus 1 day worst case scenario. He could also claim something else but in that case there's nothing we can do to prevent it.
You also didn't answer my question - what were your results? I feel like you're letting me down by potentially wasting an investigation on a lurker when it could've been used to confirm an active player. That could've also been "purposely" done.

Wtf is this post.

“Letting you down?” I don’t owe you anything.

Flubber doesn’t have a PT. That is my result. If you weren’t being deliberately obtuse it would be obvious to you.

And I choose my own actions. Nobody else does.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:36 pm

In post 2740, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 2653, Eve wrote:what instrument does your character play flubber?
Electric triangle

I understood that reference.

Alchemist21 · Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:14 am

Lmao fanny indeed.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:11 pm

In post 2910, gobbledygook wrote:Holy cluck this is scum.

VOTE: Alchemist21

Hello to you too.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:13 pm

Gobbledy you should know it’s Mylo so we shouldn’t be throwing around votes without being sure on them. This isn’t really the time for reaction tests if that’s what you’re doing.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:17 pm

What exactly about the interactions makes you think I’m scum? Have you also considered that I had cleared the Miller claim?

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:30 pm

I thought I had a guilty on pisskop and backed off when I realized I was wrong.

People still thought Flub was lying scum and I gave an innocent result on him. I had no reason to take him out of the lynch pool as scum.

Alchemist21 · Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:58 pm

In post 2929, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 2928, Yodavader wrote:
In post 2917, gobbledygook wrote:Was Yurkin proven to be a double voter before being vanilllized?

Also, I am pretty sure Chennisden is confirmed town because of TSE.
yurkin was conf doublevoter by VC and vanilized by VC
But was it known that Yurkin was the double voter on day 1?

Yes. Their vote always counted as 2 and they couldn't split it.

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:40 am

In post 2988, jjh927 wrote:Did he say why he claimed PT cop if he is a traffic analyst

Because I didn’t really think about the difference between the 2 roles at first and it’s easier to type out PT Cop.

Alchemist21 · Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:41 pm

VOTE: Drew

I love how in the same post Drew tries to say Creature was trying to set him up with the hood choice and then backtracks into saying he might be innocent.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:42 am

We're not lynching outside the guilty today.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:03 am

I'm Kerry King, guitarist for Slayer.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:46 am

Why is Yurkin in the same group as Drew?

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:23 am

Titus don’t do this to me.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:48 am

I tried to keep the players engaged with each other early D1.
I cleared a Miller claim and took it out of the lynch pool.
I held off on stating my guilty to maximize info and worked with you in the hood about this.

Scum doesn’t do all of those things.

Alchemist21 · Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:35 pm

In post 3157, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3155, chennisden wrote:{Creature, Drew, maybe BS, ??}

or

{Creature, Alch, Yoda, ??}

Idk

I think it's obvious no matter which one of Alch or Drew is scum Creature is scum
I agree with this last line, but Drew’s crumb makes sense with his weird ass role, so I believe him over Alchemist.

Why do you believe the weird ass role though?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:22 am

I don’t crumb investigative roles. And it’s clear I have the role I say I do because I knew Pisskop had the PT.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:26 am

Also anyone can say they’re never getting lynched and mean a wide number of things. That’s something that can very easily be retroactively claimed to be a crumb.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:36 am

Drew claimed Bulletproof when the way he says the role works is actually Deathproof. PT Cop and Traffic Analyst are functionally the same the vast majority of the time and it’s insane that you’re believing Drew’s unverified claim over mine that is already verified.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:44 am

Wtf

Gobble are you scum?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:55 am

In post 3180, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3178, Alchemist21 wrote:Wtf

Gobble are you scum?
Why did you pick Drew?

Because I’d been Townreading him all game and thought I was gonna have another clear to take out of the lynch pool.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:17 am

In post 3182, gobbledygook wrote:Why did you withhold the guilty publicly?
What is your read on Creature?

To try and maximize info. I asked Titus about it and she said to withhold it.

And I think Creature is Town for putting us in the hood together.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:30 am

Titus can confirm my PoE earlier today was jj, chennisden, Eve (Gobble), BS, Yoda.

I wanted to take out you because of how Jackson claimed the role, and BS because it would mean 2 scum claim vanillaized.

Your posts today have put you back in my PoE.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:45 am

His inclusion is more a case of "others are Townier" and I am taking him out of my PoE.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:32 am

He's another PoE. He's been null to me the whole game and there's nothing really redeeming to his slot.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:06 am

In post 3242, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 3227, Titus wrote:Alch changed PT Cop to traffic analyst (detects PTs in use only)
What is the difference?

Difference is if someone shared a PT with someone and the other person died, I would get a negative result instead of positive because they no can no longer communicate outside the game thread with anyone.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:57 pm

In post 3260, chennisden wrote:Actually a kink in my theory is Alch should've known Drew had a hood

His play doesn't seem to suggest that

Should've.

Didn't.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:01 pm

Frankly that should show I'm Town. If I were scum who planned to fake a PT Cop guilty on Drew I would have had a whole team to remind me he already has a PT from Gamma and stop me.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:21 pm

In post 3265, Lavender wrote:The more this game continues the more I realize how this role is so wasted on me.
But this is very interesting, I wonder what will happen~

JJ here is the invisible me
Drew, that long read list was funny

Now I uh, keep being unhelpful

Does the game have you stumped?

+1