Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[Churros]

If you don't die tomorrow, are you voting Cakez and ending my misery?

Even if he flips town and I get depressed, it's better than the anxiety I've on his flip for almost one week now

[Churros]

Wait who hammered titus? I thought we were trying to lynch someone on this side

Was that really a hammer vote? No offense to the game here, but I hope titus is scum.

[Churros]

Yeah you can die

Nancy kill him

[Churros]

r u really not volpe bc that read only applies if ur volpe

identifying fumuki aka yuurei aka rainn aka nibbui aka volpe alts on sight is a skill that all self-respecting scummers ought to have

I do think I can easily fool you guys as long as

1) no anime avatar
2) focus on proper english like I had when I repped in
3) stop spelling past games, stories and meta together with other players
4) no anime name
5) intentionally change my writing style

That said, all of the above is a pain to me.

I was even typing up more properly when I repped in but the constant denial on Cakez made me get more and more frustated to the point I didn't care what I posted here

Gosh guys, stop exposing me so hard though

[Churros]

Fuck you Oka I couldn't hint more for you to stop it by the way

I'm also kinda...obvtown.

I've stopped posting things to get town read it's been ages and NSG is the unique paragon-worthy active player in the site that I haven't had a clear win in a scum game/made her town read me.

I wouldn't miss this opportunity here.

In my unique scum game against her I killed her too early because the whole playerlist was too stacked for me to get to bring her to LyLo.

I'm not scum oka have a nice day and vote Cakez.

[Churros]

In my unique scum game against NSG I was trying to pocket her so hard that you could see blood coming from my posts

[Churros]

She was the unique town slot in the whole game other than whoever I was pushing that didn't town read me.

I'm challenged about her.

I'm town have a nice day²

[Churros]

That said I don't think what I got against RC counts as clear win I would be slightly challenged to tryhard against him again

[Churros]

sorry

im just traumatized

stop it from now on and you're fine

going to bed here

[Churros]

I could fake being kagami if I put my mind into it, I think

[Churros]

except my reads would be way worse than hers but we could just call it an off-game.

[Churros]

Screw you though oka.

UNVOTE:

whatever to this game.

[Churros]

VOTE: NSG

[Churros]

I'm bummed with the aggressive open alt-hunt on me but even more bummed that she can't vote a slot in the game

I don't have an issue with her activity, reads, effort, or anything.

I've an issue with her lack of a vote and I don't even think it's necessarily scum indicative.

I've an issue with her lack of a vote on a game that needs development and that's it.

[Churros]

I'm bummed with the aggressive open alt-hunt on me

this is more to oka if it's not clear

[Churros]

if you've not understand it my vote on NSG isn't a scum read it's out of principle she should vote someone with us

although there's a non-zero chance NSG is scum, but it's minor

[Churros]

NSG started solving, good.

UNVOTE:

[Churros]

I don't feel like playing mafia anymore though...

I'm going to mostly lurk/vote only

[Churros]

I'm fine defaulting to consensus for now

I'm tired of screaming to lynch Cakez

truly tired

[Churros]

VOTE: Nero Cain

[Churros]

One of Farside/BB is town

[Churros]

The other one is most likely scum, I'm confident

after taking a breath I could see universes where I'm wrong on Cakez, and it would mean one of the lurkers is scum in my game, I think.

[Churros]

By the way all of my reads are likely wrong if TH is scum but I don't think they are

The unique hesitation on calling them town is because RC called them scum

[Churros]

I've already said plenty of times that I'm willing to die if we kill Cakez and it's town.

[Churros]

I think Farside is most likely the townie there yes

BB is very probably just scum

[Churros]

I don't think Farside is uber townie though

She's just better than BB constantly being sassy about everything

I don't remember him being this way in Camun/Pine game.

[Churros]

This is unexpected gobble

positively unexpected

why the vote though

[Churros]

My unique problem to completely see scum!BB is who their partners is in xmas.

I was considering very maybe it was you, but with that vote I just ruled it out as well.

He is been suggesting lynches on Elmo/NM, although he has three times now flaked on Elmo a bit. But still, it would be bad play if he's scum.

He doesn't particularly make me think he wouldn't do that as scum though.

[Churros]

My unique problem to completely see scum!BB is who their partners is in xmas.

I was considering very maybe it was you, but with that vote I just ruled it out as well.

He is been suggesting lynches on Elmo/NM, although he has three times now flaked on Elmo a bit. But still, it would be bad play if he's scum.

He doesn't particularly make me think he wouldn't do that as scum though.

It would be bad play if Elmo is his partner*

Although it would also be weird play if NM is his partner because by tunneling him like that he's confirming himself to vote NM.

I'm beginning to think I might be wrong in my WW read if BB is scum.

[Churros]

I don't think there's a universe where all BB/Farside/Nero is town.

But I've trouble understanding who is BB partner if he's scum and isn't awfully bussing his partner one away from victory to town.

[Churros]

I've already said plenty of times that I'm willing to die if we kill Cakez and it's town.

What is your read on Eve? Your predecessor hard tr that slot, so it’s interesting.

I could see it being Eve if I'm wrong on Cakez but you guys flipped Titus instead of a more useful slot.

[Churros]

I'm going to be bold and say BBMolla/NM isn't possible with BB insistence on NM today rather than Elmo.

I could see it but I'm going to dismiss the possibility.

I'm going to rule Elmo/NM because it's not only redundant since it's our exact lynch pool, but NM tried to hammer it. I could see scum!NM hammering a scum!Elmo to just give up in the game but...such weird play, gonna dismiss.

[Churros]

If BBMolla/Farside/Nero can't be all town, I would say:

Farside/Nero isn't possible because Farside was really happy-go-lucky about voting Elmo before. Probably not a partner.

BBMolla/Farside probably not a thing because Farside is pushing BB again even when we had been trying to lynch in consensus lurkers. Not completely impossible team but I would say it's redundant to scum read both right now.

It leaves me with BBMolla/Nero with BB avoiding quite a bit voting Elmo but not too much. Weird.

[Churros]

It's either BBMolla/Nero or Farside/NM I think if I'm not wrong on WW.

If I'm wrong on WW he can be paired with anyone from [Nero, NM, BB], except Farside I think.

Hm...

[Churros]

Do partners matter, Churros? Wouldn’t it be better to just find a scum?

This is a flag game which hunting associatives are easier than most of the time I suppose.

Dismissing teams makes it so we can optimally lynch to counter any kind of possible team.

[Churros]

I can easily see BBMolla/Nero

or

BBMolla/WW

But the later does mean I was likely wrong on Cakez. While the top one means BBMolla is a weird scum player, but they aren't that rare in hindsight.

[Churros]

BBMolla was hard pushing NM/Drdolittle since the start, yeah probably not partners

If you pay attention BBMolla reads never really change since he's still pushing TH/mastina/drdolittle right back from when the game started.

[Churros]

Ok

Elmo Teh Azn, Ellitell

what does this mean?

I'm up to this post

and he never mentioned Elmo before and is hard pushing DDL/Mastina/TH

Yeah I may be being dumb and it's just BB/Nero

I'll continue reading though

[Churros]

like it pretty much has to be NM no?

or Elmo I guess

NM today/Elmo tomorrow.

I'm fairly confident this is a town win so I'm all good with that

but if you try to back out of the elmo lynch tomorrow don't be shocked when I fight it that's all I'm gonna say

Ya'll sure we can't go NM instead of Nero

But BB/WW makes more sense than BB/Elmo, still.

[Churros]

It's either

BBMolla/Elmo and I was wrong on Cakez most likely

or

Farside/NM and I might have been right on Cakez

probably

Eve + BBMolla + Elmo

or

Cakez + Farside + NM

but Cakez/NM doesn't seem aligned so...

...

was I wrong on Cakez...

such a weird conclusion to come out of considering teams

[Churros]

What do I mean I was wrong on Cakez...I'm having an existantial crisis, those teams are weird.

Maybe..scum just light bussed their partners in cross-game?

Awful strategy but it can have happened

[Churros]

In post 6212, Churros wrote:
The other one is most likely scum, I'm confident

after taking a breath I could see universes where I'm wrong on Cakez, and it would mean one of the lurkers is scum in my game, I think.



Vote bb, you can vote me if im wrong.

I SR BB before it was cool

[Churros]

I think Cakez/BBMolla in the next day wins us this whatever team it is, but I do think it can be as simply as

Eve/Shuichi + BBMolla + Elmo

But BB would be scum either way...?

VOTE: BBMolla

[Churros]

If Cakez in Halloween/ BBMolla in xmas doesn't win the game you can vote me in D4 and I'll not bitch about it.

[Churros]

it was L-2 before

Now L-3 with your unvote

[Churros]

I think it's

Eve + BBMolla + Nero

or

Cakez but I don't know the team

if it's neither of the above I give up.

[Churros]

If anyone else feels this way, please raise your hand.

-bitmap

I feel like people are waiting on NSG instead of playing, sure.

I wish people could just play though

[Churros]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

[Churros]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

Don't want to be shouted at for bad reads after we lose the game

what if I wanted to be shouted at??

[Churros]

any more quickhammers are highly anti-town and should be treated as scumclaims

guys put someone at L-2 real quick

NM and me have a quest to complete now

we'll properly apologize with "just a prank bro" if it flips town

[Churros]

She's my twin sister

[Churros]

"slots like Churros"

I feel stigma there

post more

[Churros]

I hate slow-burn...

[Churros]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

+1
Who cares what nsgs reads are

I care but I wish people wouldn't be always saying "hey NSG give us a complete solve real quick", "hey NSG why you've no solve yet"

It's unfun

She is going to say when she feels good about saying. If you're worried about her being scum you could engage her without expecting a full solve right now.

Every interaction with NSG this game has been "solve the whole game for us NSG" or something.

I voted her but I wished she would just vote someone to get wagons going. That's all.

[Churros]

Sir Cakez wanna claim masons

[Churros]

Who know what the odds are of you being able to hide my flip are in a theme game

we should def claim masons

[Churros]

claim that I'm a cross-game friendly neighbor that visited you tonight Cakez

let's spicy up the game for no good reason at all

[Churros]

I hadn't given it much thought before recently but I definitely think that scum!Eve is bold enough for the quickhammer (especially if her partners is either you or NM) + bussing Lie when asked to.

I don't see any reason she necessarily wouldn't. Alternatively you could town read RC but I don't have strong opinions there considering Vecna + me are town. Someone said he only pushed Lie before replacing, didn't confirm it.

I'm failing to see who else is scum beyond Cakez or Eve though.

I could see Shuichi but does he really tells everyone to fuck themselves as scum for pushing them correctly?

It's going to be so asinine if it was the case, Cephir doesn't strike me as that kind of person. More likely than not he was only frustated with the game.

TH is...probably town? I guess my weakest TR but there.

WAHN is probably town, I rechecked it already.

Baezu probably town. I could be wrong but I don't see it too much.

???

[Churros]

I don't see some of their posts coming from scum

Nancy feels a bit too active and uncontrolled to be scum as well

[Churros]

Oh yeah, I also had some reason on his ISO to like Baezu but I forgot

This game is going for too long

[Churros]

Oh yeah

Baezu is my mason already sorry Cakez you can't take the post

She's also town mason while you're sketchy mason that can or not be mason

I looked at stockfordummies.net and they said I should invest on baezu here

[Churros]

We could claim three players neighborhood and say BB is the scum in it TH

I think it's gonna work

[Churros]

We could claim three players neighborhood and say BB is the scum in it TH

Very strong strategy by the way

very stronk

[Churros]

He coming to thread to deny we're all neighbors will only further incriminate him and everyone is going to fall into the neighborhood WIFOM

they'll never see us coming

[Churros]

Why is the fake mason gambit even remotely funny anymore? That's so 2015

I genuinely want claim mason with a neighbor someday

[Churros]

bitmap stop please

It's not about Baezu voting Lie Ren

It's about Lie Ren voting Baezu and pushing her

[Churros]

I do think I know what you're going for bitmap

but it's not gonna work probably

[Churros]

Churros is pretty tasty you can't blame them

[Churros]

do what

he pushed baezu

that's the reason I don't think he bus first thing in the morning

[Churros]

We aren't having trouble

People just quicklynched two low-info slots like Titus/JJH for funsies and we got lucky with Lie

By the way not many people town read me, at least not that strongly.

[Churros]

like Churros whole "I don't feel like playing mafia" followed by hyperactivity almost feels scummier than just voting me for no reason and then lurking.

You've no idea how fast I want to end this game especially when I'm confident that with two lynches I win this.

[Churros]

Yes BB

tell us about your page 10 scum reads of Drdol/mastina/TH

aka

NM/Churros/TH

some more

[Churros]

We could ducking get her lurking partner NM but apparently Nero has to die first

Why the duck can’t you guys just read this game like I am

I'm a he, unless you're talking about NSG?

[Churros]

I don't have problem being misgendered by the way

I was just wondering if you thought NSG was scum

[Churros]

Can we lynch scum yet

[Churros]

That's not the full argument BB

Some just have an issue on how much AtE or sassy you're using, or doesn't like you defaulting Lie Ren to town.

[Churros]

I'm very amused on what stories you'll come up to if NM isn't scum and we're still here tomorrow

Who is my next buddy in that universe I wonder

[Churros]

Ok if NM flips town

let's hypothetically ask

what are your reads on xmas tomorrow

[Churros]

If you don't want to do BBMolla I can do Nero NSG.

I don't think it can be BBMolla/NM so I would be fine with doing Nero instead

[Churros]

I said it wouldn't work WANH

[Churros]

I could do a NM lynch after you

NM is most likely paired with Farside, and out of Farside/BB I like her slot more

[Churros]

those posts from BB weren't that bad

you guys vote was kinda horrible though

[Churros]

anyway something needs to be said after we got out of night...

[Churros]

Let'ssss goooo



VOTE: Nero

[Churros]

WANH has been killed. They were:

Spoiler:

Welcome, We Are Not Helping, to Doubles Mafia. You have chosen to be a part of Game Halloween.

You are a

Mason

, [REDACTED].

You, and the rest of the TOWN faction, win when at least two members of the MAFIA faction are dead, regardless of whether they were players in your game. Please confirm by PMing my your role name and the name of the game you are in.

pfffff

[Churros]

Mason + Motion Detector + 2 scum and it's over

what's wrong with this setup....

[Churros]

I got scared when NSG said twice BB isn't scum

[Churros]

I do wonder if it may be cross-mason.

Cross-mason seems way more balanced than just masons.

[Churros]

Whatever man whatever

I tried to get lynched NM first than your slot early

You can keep making all the weird pairings you like

early they were saying my partner was probably you, now it's NM

truly a revolutionary game

[Churros]

I do wonder if it may be cross-mason.

Cross-mason seems way more balanced than just masons.

It would have flipped cross game mason if that’s the case like Lie Ren’s role

I thought about that, but maybe for balance Jingle didn't reveal if it's cross masons or not.

Maybe we should default to it not being, but it feels so unbalanced with motion detector already flipped.

[Churros]

I do wonder if it may be cross-mason.

Cross-mason seems way more balanced than just masons.

It would have flipped cross game mason if that’s the case like Lie Ren’s role

meh, i don't necessarily think so.

NSG can we talk about how pretty my gifs are, how cool your new avatar is, and who you feel like voting, even if only slightly right now?

[Churros]

ok, why aren't you responding to my accusation about your voting habits?

I do wonder if I began to joke about "because I'm scum", if people would SR me for it.

There's no other reason for me wanting you/BB first than because you're scummier to me now.

I thought NM hammer was fairly bad but right now your flip could tell me a lot about BBMolla.

Either that or win the game.

[Churros]

I've been scum reading you it's been forever Nero. You haven't read the whole game.

[Churros]

He tried to hammer your slot but it failed since one of the votes was fake/from another game

[Churros]

If you aren't talking I'm doing this NSG

VOTE: BBMolla

[Churros]

now who does WANH kill implicate...

No one it's the obvious kill?

[Churros]

...

Now gobble unvotes NM.

Excellent.

VOTE: NM

Can we get something going already?

NM is ok to put on L-2 or L-1. He isn't gonna self-hammer unless he's scum.

EBWOP: I think it's Elmo based on BB's comment but I wouldn't say no to NM lynch if it went that way.

Ok

but we already have BB on NM therefore can we go there and already get it to L-2?

VOTE: NM

BBMolla about Elmo tomorrow, yes. But tomorrow I think it's LyLo here therefore we should first lynch once in Halloween after this one here if it doesn't end the game

After that if it still doesn't end the game, Elmo.

He tried to hammer your slot but it failed since one of the votes was fake/from another game

And yet you don’t want to lynch him

Now gobble unvotes NM.

Excellent.

VOTE: NM

Can we get something going already?

NM is ok to put on L-2 or L-1. He isn't gonna self-hammer unless he's scum.

[Churros]

I've been scum reading you it's been forever Nero. You haven't read the whole game.

I haven't true. But earlier you were all like"i'm just going with the majority." and made it sound like you were reluctant. I am not longer the majority, NM is, so why have your voting habits changed?

wtf BBMolla is the majority what you're talking about

another reason to SR you

[Churros]

now who does WANH kill implicate...

No one it's the obvious kill?

why shoot this down immediately

It's the obvious kill and if you tried to spin it on something I would need to facepalm

[Churros]

If you aren't talking I'm doing this NSG

VOTE: BBMolla

what's your problem? i am working on this game, sorry that most of the work i'm doing doesn't translate 1:1 to words to post

do you have any specific questions for me? i have nothing to say about your gifs, thank you i like my new avatar too, and i'm still working on who i want to vote

I wish you could wagon someone with us

Ruby was really flashy and cool

[Churros]

ok but Churros there's a wagon and momentum on NM now. If you were scum reading him im not sure why you are resisting his wagon now.

what part of my post saying I scum read you guys more you didn't get

[Churros]

Quote all you want Churros we’re at the fucking point where we can actually lynch him and you’re refusing

of course I'm refusing, I called it Eve + you + Nero and you're all doing a song and dance, while piling on NM.

[Churros]

Yshlota is Shuichi

Nero is Elmo

[Churros]

My word, what must a lady do to allow herself to be heard? I've never seen as much noise in all my days!

Vote people

[Churros]

Yshlota want to play poker but it's actually mafia with me

I would say we've 100 coins each and we can bet minimun of 25 on each slot

p-edit: NSG is talking to me!

[Churros]

Churros why are you trying to get people to vote, voting yourself and seemingly trying to get these flashwagons when they day literally just started?

I would prefer to not immediately go from one night phase to another.

First because voting people is the soul of this game to me. If you aren't voting/there's no wagons/people are just saying "X/Y is Z" or so it not only feels unreadable but it also feels unproductive.

It's putting a game in a pause, and that is not good. There's no natural wagons in this game at all. Every wagon that raised up got a quick lynch and the unique resisted one was Lie Ren.

It's like we're on a hivemind and people vote whoever gets the most wagoned because there's no natural aspect to this game. People aren't voting who they want lynched, they are holding it because of X, or because they are "not sure", or etc.

Titus would never be the lynch yesterday if this was a natural game, most people wanted either TH or Cakez, which would progress the game more, but we default'ed
on Titus because there was some votes there and..."why not meh?" happened.

JJH lynch was a useless lynch as well and people just began to pile there for little reason. It was an apathy wagon as well.

I already can't vote or have much agency on the other game, I'm confident on my reads already and want to get flips to revalueate if I'm wrong.

Waiting won't do anything other than make gradually this game more uninteresting. Everyone already has reads and it's time to vote and get progression.

That Elmo silly wagon was one of the most useful things that happened in this game recently and that tells a lot about what quality we're getting here.

It's unfun, unproductive and I would like it stops.

[Churros]

Last reason I think we can already win this game with the current reads and I wish to get over this already to join something else which is stimulating to play.

I can't help but feel I've been on the same rock it's been ages. There's no progression here.

Titus lynch was useless, JJH was useless, and Lie Ren would be useless if it had flipped town.

If we don't just treat this as a normal game we can play and do not need to put on stop every second, maybe we could even manage to lose this.

PicketyPickety is the game that comes to mind when you cite "a game which you need to stop playing everytime because of something else", and that was a scum stomp + lurkfest.

We had scum right early but the more we had to put a stop in the game, the more we overthought it and made dumb actions.

Titus is literally the result of overthinking it. We all had agreed she was last to go and for some dumb reason people lynched her first.

[Churros]

Churros, why did you say that you didn't feel like playing mafia and then got insanely active?

Do I feel like I'm having fun here?

Really?

I'm playing this to try to get over it because I'm confident I know how to end it.

I want to finish all my ongoing games and join something chillier like a micro where my vote has way more agency than here about the game as a whole.

[Churros]

We literally had 2/3 in our sights by day 1 in PicketyPickety and the more we overthought it and treated half of the day phase as a place to chat, the more we said "meh maybe lurkers"

what a coincidence...

coincidence indeed.

[Churros]

Churros, if I ask you a question will you promise to answer it?

I'll answer what I can answer.

[Churros]

By the way I got NSG to talk with all my posting

that's something already

[Churros]

Alright, in that case I'll ask something different than what I originally intended.

How townsided do you think this game is?

Ok I'll answer whatever you ask for as long as it doesn't break the rules.

That's what I meant.

Can you ask the original question?

[Churros]

Correlation isn't causation.

Another question: do you think Eve could be scum?

Do you want me to be honest

Maybe not

Maybe yes

but I do think we win here either way as long as I'm correct in my TRs, which I think I'm especially on Halloween.

Xmas I'm not as sure.

[Churros]

Are you masons with Eve?

No

[Churros]

I could see it being Titus if it's not Cakez

If it's not Cakez it's a big maybe from me

But I'm not arguing I wasn't dumb to not veto Titus lynch as much as I'm saying we were dumb for being ok with it collectively

[Churros]

I don't think it's a good time to out the masons

NSG is probably town by the way

She would probably be for other reasons but later

maybe I'm wrong on those other ones

[Churros]

I gotta say though

What a weird thing to ask

mastina/RC masons

wow.

[Churros]

I wish I was masons with Eve though

it would be a blast.

[Churros]

some day I wonder if I'll put together a scum tell where pushing Baezu most of the time it's scum-indicative because I always see scum pushing her

funnily enough, Lie Ren pushed her.

[Churros]

Yeah NSG

Now that I answered your question let's talk about what you think of my flowery gifs

[Churros]

I don't buy you've no opinion on them

I suspect you secretly think they suck and I'm depressed

do anyone likes my gifs anyway...

[Churros]

nsg,

what do u think of Churros scum reading NM for all/some portion of the game but not wanting to vote there when there's momentum?

plot twist

VOTE: NM

[Churros]

i haven't really noticed them.

:'/

[Churros]

nsg,

what do u think of Churros scum reading NM for all/some portion of the game but not wanting to vote there when there's momentum?

plot twist

VOTE: NM

9/10 gif

[Churros]

And i would vote nero.

let's go partner

VOTE: nero

[Churros]

elmo wuz scummy

[Churros]

Alternatively you're defending all my other scum reads, Elmo didn't look great and I don't care if you think your predecessor posts matter or not, and you're intensily trying to get NM lynched by saying he's my partner but not going for me because I'm clearly harder to lynch.

How does that sound to you

[Churros]

All of your posts is trying to sell Churros + someone else

Give me a break.

If Gobbles/NSG are town like consensus thinks at the moment, scum are likely to be in [Churros, Nero, BB, Farside, Nero]

You're sidding with the guy that town reads you, hedging on the paranoia slot and going for the easiest lynch after you/BB

How can you be any more survivalist than that

Your gobble/Baezu read from before came from absolutely nowhere as well

[Churros]

I want every single person in the game to give me their read on Baezu and why they have it.

I can talk about mine if you say 2 people you would be fine being lynched

[Churros]

VOTE: NM

!!!

[Churros]

UNVOTE:

woshh

[Churros]

partner indicative ^

[Churros]

VOTE: Nero

Out of respect for you I'm gonna vote Nero before BB NSG.

[Churros]

Indeed

[Churros]

Churros how many scum do town need to lynch to win the game?

Win meaning ending the game

3

[Churros]

no wait

5

[Churros]

intensily trying to get NM lynched by saying he's my partner but not going for me because I'm clearly harder to lynch.

I mean, why should I care wich scum we lynch? There's momentum for a NM lynch I don't see why in the world I should be pushing you instead.

You think it's Churros/NM but if NM is town, Churros/Farside

why not push me instead I wonder.

[Churros]

"leave NM alone, push me instead!" thats all i hear and I think that does come from scum alot, regardless of NM's alignment.

In this exact post you're defining my problem with you

You're defaulting to scum!me regardless of NM but wants to push people that aren't me

[Churros]

Welcome, [PLAYERNAME], to Doubles Mafia. You have chosen to be a part of Game [GAMENAME].

You are a Vanilla Townie, with all the rights and responsibilities implied by such a powerful station. You may address your fellow players at any time, day or night, in the game thread, located here, as long as you are alive.

You, and the rest of the TOWN faction,

win when at least two members of the MAFIA faction are dead, regardless of whether they were players in your game.

Please confirm by PMing my your role name and the name of the game you are in.

VOTE: Churros

I'm genuinely laughing

[Churros]

I even said that maybe it was Cakez if it's not you

you're bonkers

I'm confident but there's no such thing as 100%

confident is good enough though.

[Churros]

I see what you're saying NSG but if Churros seriously believes Nero and I are the scumteam what she says makes no sense having received a town PM

Do you really think this is town NSG?

Like, something that town!BB actually pushes?

[Churros]

But I've trouble understanding who is BB partner if he's scum and isn't awfully bussing his partner one away from victory to town.

[Churros]

scum slip gg

[Churros]

I even said that maybe it was Cakez if it's not you

you're bonkers

I'm confident but there's no such thing as 100%

confident is good enough though.

that doesn't even make sense

the other scum with Nero in xmas could be Cakez instead of me?

You're proving time and time again to not be reading my posts

I think it's

Eve + BBMolla + Nero

or

Cakez but I don't know the team

if it's neither of the above I give up.

[Churros]

I see what you're saying NSG but if Churros seriously believes Nero and I are the scumteam what she says makes no sense having received a town PM

Do you really think this is town NSG?

Like, something that town!BB actually pushes?

Yes.

Do you think that Cakez or Nero are likely town?

Answer this at least. I'm going to stop bothering you if you do.

[Churros]

Do you think that Cakez or Nero are likely town?

Gun to your head, both more likely town, or more likely to be at least one scum here?

[Churros]

You're defaulting to scum!me regardless of NM but wants to push people that aren't me

I mean, regardless of your alignment, once I flip town you'll have to have a new solve and if NM flips town I'll have to have a new solve. I'm scumreading NM and there was momentum there. Why should I not be voting there? "oh he's an easier push!" sure but town doesn't give a shit about wich scum gets lynched. You're just trying to derail his wagon.

You're so not having a new solve

You're going to scum read my slot forever and hedge on it

[Churros]

farside pocket me harder I like it

[Churros]

NSG what's your read on me

[Churros]

NSG what's your read on me

This is actually kinda scum indicative from me but I'm asking because I'm curious either way

I was also curious how mena was reading me when considering meta

[Churros]

Farside I can easily see you being scum if I'm wrong on some reads but do you want to be bad cop/good cop with me?

I'll even let you decide if I'm the good or the bad cop

[Churros]

You and me Farside

Back to back.

Gotta catch 'em all.

[Churros]

lynching NM, Churros, YR wins us the game I think.

scum slip!

[Churros]

I can't see how this isn't either Farside/NM or Nero/BB

Maybe Gobbles is scum with Nero or something, but it would be a bit weirder.

Those last pages make it a bit clear to me.

[Churros]

Please don't say things like that. It makes me dislike you and feel like your buttering me up.

This is a good post. kinda.

[Churros]

I can't see how this isn't either Farside/NM or Nero/BB

Maybe Gobbles is scum with Nero or something, but it would be a bit weirder.

Those last pages make it a bit clear to me.

Why can't it be BB/Nero?

I said it either that or else

maybe it was poorly phrased.

[Churros]

I could see a very weird universe where scum still thinks it's ok to bus, but I'm doubting it.

[Churros]

I could see it Nero.

In fact that is a good point.

[Churros]

Unhappily, if NM is scum it likely means Farside is scum

but I'll focus on a single slot for now

[Churros]

VOTE: NM

real vote

The more I think about it, the more that interaction looks like scum

"Your creditibility took a huge dive" and all

maybe I'm being dumb about you/BB.

[Churros]

I'm back to my original solve of NM/Farside

I'm going in circles by this point.

[Churros]

I'm all the way back to here, maybe.

If you want my honest opinion right now I think it's

Lie Ren/Cakez + Farside/NM

maybe switch BBMolla for either one in xmas

but I'll properly consider Elmo, after flips in the above.

I want to do NM rather than Farside though.

[Churros]

Alternatively I could see Gobble/Nero.

[Churros]

We probably should do nm first though

I actually had seen that post and had the same feeling, but this game is going in circles for so long that I forgot about it

shouldn't forget about things hm

I'm also forgetting my TR on baezu roughly but I do remember it was a ok read

[Churros]

"Your creditibility took a huge dive by town reading DDL mastina"

"Come on dude"

such weird interaction in hindsight

[Churros]

It's a better question why would he say "Come on dude" to such a commentary.

[Churros]

But Nero does feel like scum a bit hm

What a question

But that interaction is really weird.

[Churros]

I"m her lawyer what's up guys

[Churros]

he makes great small talk

I don't

[Churros]

wait you are paying me??

[Churros]

she's our backup lawyer

we've a backup lawyer right?

[Churros]

also hypothetically speaking if i was a jailkeeper/joat/cop/mason/pathfinder/tracker/watcher/VT/jester/vigilante/motion detector when should i be claiming and under what circumstances?

You should claim whenever someone asks you politely to do, while asking you about the weather.

[Churros]

she's our backup lawyer

we've a backup lawyer right?

well duh

i've been mailing her all the cash - she is splitting it with you right

wait you have cash???

[Churros]

I think you should fire baezu

probably a greedy capitalist

[Churros]

I hope NM wins the game

I'm sleepy

[Churros]

@mod V/LA for saturday/sunday.

[Churros]

page 271

I hard TR TH and I'm gonna be surprised if I'm wrong

Nancy/Auro fighting in the public thread about their reads on me is probably not something they would do as coordinated scum and it's exactly what I would expect town!Nancy to do.

[Churros]

page 273

Nancy has a point

I forgot about talking Gamma vs Mastina interactions

I only glanced a bit on them but shouldn't that be pretty anti-partner-y?

He literally was saying Mastina was a bad player with bad reads and I don't see scum!Gamma doing that to a buddy even if it was a slot other than me.

I hadn't read those posts when I first replaced in.

[Churros]

Churros seems to have tried a lot to get Cakez to vote Vecna, or anywhere else

No I wasn't...

I never said to wagon anyone but Cakez himself, and the unique thing would fit this is me being ironic about the hammer from Cakez before LR claimed cop.

[Churros]

i'm back to one of Cakez or trojan horses as scum

Trojan horses make this show of saying "oh maybe eve is town we expected her to do this if scum" and "we're reconsidering eve" but at the end of the day they always revert back to them pushing me as the no1 scum in Halloween

I think my town read on them is right with they fighting in public thread about me

Especially Auro I believe, would be more coordinated as scum.

[Churros]

NM can be scum but if he's town you should look in who is trying to flash lynch him

I do believe that we've at least one scum in either pool, therefore people trying to paint NM as a "must-lynch" isn't a good look, while TH for example not minding it should probably be town-indicative?

I'm saying all of the above considering an universe where NM flips town since if he's scum we already won.

I agree with NSG that after coming to this point, it may be irresponsible to not lynch NM.

[Churros]

I'm maintaining my vote on him by the way, and if it doesn't end the game here we go with a churros/farside thing I guess.

It's either Eve or Cakez in halloween, I think.

[Churros]

Dunno about baezu, I think LR pushing the slot makes it probably town but who knows in the end.

I would rather vote Cakez there though, etc.

[Churros]

If TH is scum, they probably have a partner or both partners in the lynch pool and would be trying to put me on it as well to help deflect from buddies.

Auro is firmly with that agenda and right now I would be fine with lynching them out of his posts.

Nancy clearly isn't ok with me being in the pool and is publicly fighting with Auro which I don't see a lot of benefit to them other than extreme WIFOM. If I ever get flipped, you should treat the slot as town most likely.

[Churros]

bye.

[Churros]

If you want my opinion, I see more often town giving TMI-vibe posts than scum.

scum is often careful with their wording while town just throws phrases without directly implying every meaning in them.

You could probably even spin some of my posts as TMI I guess.

[Churros]

NSG feels slightly weird but I TR the slot either way.

I simply never saw her utilizing the methods she's using here as either alignment.

Gun to my head...the ISO map is pretty town indicative because as scum she probably would just put some reads/opinions together and post. scum!NSG isn't the most motivated person to take all the trouble of creating that from my experience.

[Churros]

I spent the entire weekend chilling and I feel pretty chill.

I feel a bit silly for being so intense early.

My reads...haven't changed a lot though.

[Churros]

You could probably even spin some of my posts as TMI I guess

You could spin my awesome reads as TMI I guess

Is that Nancy...?

[Churros]

I want. Do it.

Stop delaying progress

[Churros]

Could it be gobbles/NM?

Shocking.

[Churros]

I don't understand why you bussed NM early when it's one away from town victory.

If you're his partner, if you had helped push elsewhere, the lynch probably wouldn't have happened.

I'm only saying this as a hypothesis. I don't get lol scum bussed. I truly don't.

NM being a partner would turn this into hardcore mode but you guys definitely had a shot to win here.

p-edit: NSG, I don't town read anything about most of Baezu's posts, rather town reading what Lie Ren did to Baezu slot. I remember him pushing her as top lynch, but I could be wrong, my memory is a bit fuzzy.

If you want to check it out and say your thought afterwards...

[Churros]

I wouldn't call it useless either. It's pretty neat to me.

It shows all reads progression.

[Churros]

Hmm, I don't know, I might want to recheck now that you said it but the truth is this game got stale to me until Cakez flip.

He constantly gives me bad vibes with his posts and it didn't happen elsewhere. I feel he's constantly trying to shade slots rather than solving.

I don't feel I've a solid good grasp on the other slots like Baezu as much as I feel good about my read on Cakez.

It's kinda weird how Baezu reads pops up though, I'll give you that.

[Churros]

Baezu's posting on Page 82 leaves an odd taste in my mouth. It's like there is something and nothing in the same spot.

Hm.

[Churros]

Yshtola, can I be a Warrior of Light?

Can I, with my powerless soul, slay the Sin Eaters?

Sometimes I sense the light getting far, far away from us.

[Churros]

I'm the holy knight Churros.

I fear no Warrior of Darkness with my flowery sword.

Don't worry Yshtola, we won't falter in the presence of the Sin Eaters.

[Churros]

If NM is scum, maybe?

Maybe Farside is more likely though, but you delaying the NM wagon for "readlists" is...

Can you stop if you're town?

[Churros]

There's nothing more infuriating to me than delaying the game for no reason.

We can very well win with NM flip and you're delaying this when the thread will stay open if he's town.

It's unfun.

[Churros]

I'm gonna ask again, can you stop and vote NM?