Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[gobbledygook]

Waiting for NSG is ++town equity. Her posting will help solve the game either way.

[Churros]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

Don't want to be shouted at for bad reads after we lose the game

what if I wanted to be shouted at??

[Nero Cain]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

this. Also, it's not like she doesn't mislynch town as town so it's just lazy and there's some potential scum motivation in it.

[Trojan Horses]

We had a jjh quicklynch and a Titus quicklynch.

It's fine if the game doesn't have much momentum for a while.

It's White Flag right now and no deadline. We can absolutely slow burn this shit.

Btw - any more quickhammers are highly anti-town and should be treated as scumclaims; also please count the votes on wagon before you lynch, and tag them as L-1 or L-2 accordingly.

-Stuxnet

[Nero Cain]

I kinda feel like the whole point of this game is to lynch whomever we think is most likely to flip scum regardless of which game it is. So I'm not really sure why there's not as much focus on who lie rens buddy is. This is why there are no deadlines barring forward progress, so we can focus on one game or the other at any given time.

I'd like everyone to explain who they think is most likely to be partners with lie ren and why.

[Churros]

any more quickhammers are highly anti-town and should be treated as scumclaims

guys put someone at L-2 real quick

NM and me have a quest to complete now

we'll properly apologize with "just a prank bro" if it flips town

[Nero Cain]

is eve new or an alt?

[Churros]

She's my twin sister

[Trojan Horses]

is eve new or an alt?

I think she's an alt.

There's been a lot of focus on Lie's buddy.

We focus on eliminating associations. Slow process, but 'tis fine. We cycle through wagons one by one and see how the game responds, see if scum buddies take the risk to WF gambit their buddies when they can get hammered by slots like Churros, etc.



-Stuxnet

[Churros]

"slots like Churros"

I feel stigma there

post more

[Churros]

I hate slow-burn...

[SirCakez]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

+1
Who cares what nsgs reads are

[Churros]

I do respect NSG reads and all but you guys waiting on her to completely solve the game is kinda pathetic

+1
Who cares what nsgs reads are

I care but I wish people wouldn't be always saying "hey NSG give us a complete solve real quick", "hey NSG why you've no solve yet"

It's unfun

She is going to say when she feels good about saying. If you're worried about her being scum you could engage her without expecting a full solve right now.

Every interaction with NSG this game has been "solve the whole game for us NSG" or something.

I voted her but I wished she would just vote someone to get wagons going. That's all.

[Churros]

Sir Cakez wanna claim masons

[Churros]

Who know what the odds are of you being able to hide my flip are in a theme game

we should def claim masons

[Churros]

claim that I'm a cross-game friendly neighbor that visited you tonight Cakez

let's spicy up the game for no good reason at all

[Nero Cain]

I think she's an alt.

If she's an alt does amished apply?

Lie Ren (3): We are not helping, Eve, Baezu,

Also, does she vote her buddy this fast?

[Churros]

I hadn't given it much thought before recently but I definitely think that scum!Eve is bold enough for the quickhammer (especially if her partners is either you or NM) + bussing Lie when asked to.

I don't see any reason she necessarily wouldn't. Alternatively you could town read RC but I don't have strong opinions there considering Vecna + me are town. Someone said he only pushed Lie before replacing, didn't confirm it.

I'm failing to see who else is scum beyond Cakez or Eve though.

I could see Shuichi but does he really tells everyone to fuck themselves as scum for pushing them correctly?

It's going to be so asinine if it was the case, Cephir doesn't strike me as that kind of person. More likely than not he was only frustated with the game.

TH is...probably town? I guess my weakest TR but there.

WAHN is probably town, I rechecked it already.

Baezu probably town. I could be wrong but I don't see it too much.

???

[SirCakez]

My wording was poor.
A better way to phrase is "why do NSG's reads matter so much?"

[Trojan Horses]

She is going to say when she feels good about saying.

Yeah and we're cool waiting till then

She's doing some ancient Elli technique which I'm guessing is a deep meta dive on some players to uncover tells which can then just insta solve.

@Nero: why not? Although it weakens because her predecessor was RC and if she was town it's +value to see what he was doing anyway, I guess

Yeah, I can easily imagine her gambiting there.

Read the pages leading up to Ren's hammer: Eve's L-2 vote and her next posting activity was around 10h away IIRC, possible she didn't expect Lie would just get hammered by then.

Also Lie claiming cop should mean something, lol, either he was acting independently ignoring his buddies or they're maybe not very highly competent, as Cop is a kinda ridic claim? Idk

-Stuxnet

[SirCakez]

Why is TH town Churros?

[Trojan Horses]

I could see Shuichi but does he really tells everyone to fuck themselves as scum for pushing them correctly?

Aaand his bus was at a point where Lie Ren had actual lynch energy, and he absolutely didn't oppose it. I know Titus scumread it but I think the slot's very much town.

-Stuxnet

[Churros]

I don't see some of their posts coming from scum

Nancy feels a bit too active and uncontrolled to be scum as well

[farside22]

Dear Lie Ren,

What is the logic behind the scumcase on me?

I recall thinking the idea of you, jjh, and mastina being scum made sense. Now, I'm not as sure. I still kinda think you're scummy, though.

Also I see some others are FoSing me, will be interesting to see what that's about.

I just think town NSG doesn’t crumb that hard

I have honestly been ignoring the claims of being invincible.

RC, you're not as under the microscope, I do think calling your townread on me easily given is valid, though I mean no offense. I'm more going to look at folks like gobbledegook because I don't know how he progressed there. With you and some others it's more understandable.

I tentatively townread Lie Ren!

Hey something we agree on

Okay then. I would like if you talked about your read evolution on me. I recall your read on me has been approximately the same as RC's, at least in terms of when you express them.

Do we think that Trojan Jormen can be 2 scum

Possibly. Thinking Baezu + Jormengand personally.

I see this as a genuine possibility. Jormengand has been hashed out already, and Baezu feels like they're trying to play from the shadows.

By the way Trojan, thank you for acknowledging that.

I retract my Baezu townread I think. Sorry Baezu

is what I meant to quote.

Meme god is on my side today.

Why is this bad? As I said, Baezu is playing a very scummy lowkey game as I see it.

Seriously Christmas get the fuck in here I can't do anything if its just me and Gobbles posting fuck

I agree with those calling BBMolla town for his efforts.

I just realized that Jormengand forgot to write about RC in his reads list and now I'm certain that we should burn that slot.

-bitmap

I honestly want to see how he handles having doubled up on WANH reads. Forgetting about RC is weird but I don't see scum motivation in it as of now.

Like I was expecting at least a mild freak-out when he noticed that. So getting nothing at all is a bit of a shame. And the proof is in the pudding, I stated my thoughts on the RC blooper right here.

I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now.
VOTE: Baezu
Already detailed this.

At this point, Halloween should probably kill someone so it gives both games to talk about. Christmas could kill someone, but it would be harder to actually hit scum given more than a third of Christmas is lurking.

We could just lynch a lurker, you know.

Lie voted th and bauzu and pushed them as scum over anyone on that side.

[Trojan Horses]

My wording was poor.
A better way to phrase is "why do NSG's reads matter so much?"

I'm not as confident as you are; and they're statistically > rand

And if she's doing the Elli meta retrieval method that's literally equivalent to guilties or innos, we have ample content this game.


-Stuxnet