SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[50 Judge Powers]

I think Elements may be scum but I'm not so sure I should be voting there.. ?? what do you guys think

Why?

Also, I asked the mod a rhetorical question and he declined to answer

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

And the question was: Did FL roll scum yet again?

[50 Judge Powers]

Come on yall. I'm so scummy for asking a legit question?

I can't make up my mind about you, but I already TR Nero, Miss Lynch & Vecna for their posts before the one I'm responding to.

In my mind I can see a townie asking this in public after having failed to get an answer via PM. However, I can also see scum asking it, and not only to appear townie, but -more importantly- to know if there's a way for them to stop it.

If I understand the setup correct, the scum can only kill twice, and these need to be from the infected pool (which works directly against their win con), so the real challenge is to keep everybody vulnerable to the infection so they can gain parity soon enough.

-JJD

On another note, I can only see farside & mastina using "she" for their pronoun. I'm going to have a hard time playing this game.

-AP

You guys don't submit your first post without me putting my touch/signature on it



-A50

[50 Judge Powers]

Nero cain especially with his reservation afterwards due to setup weirdness

Are you scum reading me?

Somehow I got it the other way around. What I thought Vecna was saying was your tryhard was the good type of tryhard that gets the game going. I hope he did explain his read on you better in the next few pages.

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh damn, what did I sign up for? Idk how to play setups like this

Could've fooled us.

-All 3 if us

[50 Judge Powers]

Bermuda bahama come on pretty mama

Just for you, dear sir.

Spoiler:

Video spoilered per the rules.
~Covid 19

[50 Judge Powers]

Some people with borderline vision may not even see the squiggle.

What squiggle?

[50 Judge Powers]

If I understand the setup correct, the scum can only kill twice, and these need to be from the infected pool (which works directly against their win con), so the real challenge is to keep everybody vulnerable to the infection so they can gain parity soon enough.

I think it’s scum can kill from the infected pool every Night and can kill outside it twice.

I reread it, and I stand corrected. Feels a bit too scum sided though.

[50 Judge Powers]

So A50, is this like, a hydra with heads I dont recognize, or an account where you mix all your different gimmicks into one style?

This is my 4th alt, combining all the other 3 in one.

[50 Judge Powers]

A50 is AP actually in there or is this jokes cuz if AP is then that would make me super happy. Though I haven’t seen him around in forever and I miss him.

This is the AP in this hydra (which is

not a hydra

to begin with)

And this is JJD

And they're outed alts of A50 (that's me)

~A50

[50 Judge Powers]

"She" is my pronoun as well.

You want Austin Powers to flirt with you???

[50 Judge Powers]

Hey all, I hope all is well.

Would anyone on the Hoctac wagon care to explain why they are on it?

This is the scummiest/lamest entrance in this game so far.

[50 Judge Powers]

I’m always scum.

Which is why I asked the mod, and why I'm voting you.

So just let me coast until Day 3, then lynch me

Actually, that's not a bad idea, since lynching you first usually results in a scum win anyway!

UNVOTE:

[50 Judge Powers]

I don't believe in flirting, and what you don't believe in can't hurt you.

You're right.

Spoiler:

-Just A50 & JJD. AP otoh strongly objected

Video spoilered per the rules.
~Covid 19

[50 Judge Powers]

No i am also a variable in itself because I interact with the other 20 variables

You should be a constant not a variable to yourself, unless you are expecting your alignment to be switched during the course of the day. I mean, play according to your current alignment and eat the rope already.

Also, regarding your signature.. so you mean Ultravox' Vienna (which is actually a girl's name) or Falco's Vienna (calling) which is the capital of Austria??

[50 Judge Powers]

btw i didnt read the game/setup details, is this a scum vs town or scum vs town vs zombies(infected) or something?

Knew it! I actually thought about PMing the mod when I saw you sign in, but the jerk in me thought I shouldn't be a jerk about it (talk about oxymorons)

VOTE: Saudade

You can walk back to Vienna for all I care.

[50 Judge Powers]

There is only one AP.

Not sure who you're referring to, too many with those initials.

He's obviously talking about the Associated Press

[50 Judge Powers]

[quote="In post 394, mastina"][/quote]

I just noticed you wanted to abuse me (you explicitly say so in your signature), so I wanted to say I'd love it. Your place or mine?

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

and power solve the game in 5 posts.

Did you mean 50? (Don't judge me)

[50 Judge Powers]

You're a distinct possibility tho considering this as your opener feels incredibly off from what I'd expect from you, especially in a meme game.

Which one of us are you even talking to? There are 4 heads here (AP has too, and he's always using the smaller of them).

[50 Judge Powers]

and crippling soul-crushing verge-of-siteflaking depression.

Spoiler:

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh damn, what did I sign up for? Idk how to play setups like this

I wanted to call FL scum for this post so I'm going to locktown him for it instead.

This is a scum pocket attempt.

VOTE: Mastina

UNVOTE: Mastina

Didn’t realize there was a wagon there.

Oh, God! FL is scum with mastina and the town has lost this one already. Can I please get infected at some point? I mean, not on N1 .. but some time sown the road, maybe?

[50 Judge Powers]

Almost50's content this game more or less feels like it's all out of balance from where it feels it should be. A level of seriousness, mixed with a level of inactivity. If Almost50 were town, I'd expect either the seriousness to be accompanied by a slough of posts, or for there to be inactivity accompanied by a ton of lighthearted jokiness. The splitting the difference, half of one half of the other, feels like it is more likely to come from scum than town.

I think I want to print that and put on the wall, so I can look at it when I need a good laugh. Still not voting you today because I feel like people have been eager to lynch/kill you for no reason in your recent games (the ones that I saw), so I want you to live till like D3 and then reevaluate.

[50 Judge Powers]

I am currently working on finding a vaccine that should make us all immune to this evil virus. I am also working on finding a cure to those who will get infected before I can find the vaccine. The thing is everytime I think of a cure/vaccine I find that Trump had tweeted about it already. Give me a break.

[50 Judge Powers]

Oh damn, what did I sign up for? Idk how to play setups like this

I wanted to call FL scum for this post so I'm going to locktown him for it instead.

This is a scum pocket attempt.

VOTE: Mastina

UNVOTE: Mastina

Didn’t realize there was a wagon there.

Oh, God! FL is scum with mastina and the town has lost this one already. Can I please get infected at some point? I mean, not on N1 .. but some time sown the road, maybe?

Was this post a joke A50? I guess it was right?

Why would I joke about the most important thing in life (next to Kim Kardashian's behind, apparently, but that's debatable.)?

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

OOOOHHHHHH

Mafia do not HAVE to kill infected players. Makes WAY more sense now.

It seems scumsided to me

When I got invoted to play and read the setup; I thought about it and I theorized there would be one of two solutions to balance this:

a) A Doctor who gives out a vaccine
b) A Doctor who cures the infected and once cured you can no longer get infected again

I also thought there could be a Nurse as a backup in case the Doctor got shot early.

I mean, this is basically a cult game, but with the cult starting with 3 members AND all of them can "recruit", so there has to be a way for town to retrieve their own to counter that.

[50 Judge Powers]

Wait, mafia must kill one of their recruitees every night?

They “may”. But if one of their wincons is to absorb at least half the town why on earth would they bother?

My theory should explain that. If the recruit gets cured they become immune, and thus it's better for them to kill that player to remove a future immune townie

[50 Judge Powers]

how does a50 know that all the mafia can recruit? Does it say that in the op?

It says the infection is a

factional

ability, so all original Mafia members have access to it.

[50 Judge Powers]

I wonder if you get infected can you infect another person by visiting them and hen they can only kill one of the infected people and the other gains immunity.

That would be too complicated and too overpowered, but more importantly the infection is a FACTIONAL ABILITY, and thus can only be used by the "Mafia" faction. Why do you think the mod differentiates between Mafia and Infected when both have the same win con?

[50 Judge Powers]

I wonder if it would benefit us to announce if we’ve been infected? There’s bound to be someone with the ability to target infected with a cure or something.

If I was the mod I would give Mafia a Watcher to counter that. Also, imagine the town decided to lynch the claimer. They die as "Infected" and would still win/lose with the Mafia not the town. Plus, announcing you got infected is playing against your current win con, so one would be risking a ban.

[50 Judge Powers]

Or Mafia infects one person and the Town person spreads it someone.

Again: NO. Only the

original

3 members of Mafia can infect people. The infected are like "Traitors" who do not know their main team, but the main team knows them. They also can be killed by the main team, and they lose if the main team is eliminated.

[50 Judge Powers]

Except people are not going to know they are infected...

That can't be the case, because if you don't know then you don't know your own wincon. An infected player should get a notification of their alignment change to be able to play to their new wincon.

By now I am sus of both ETL & Quick for missing fundamental concepts of how a game should work despite them both being experienced enough.

[50 Judge Powers]

I mean I'm 500+ posts behind but it looks like they are trying to mislead the town here. I am not feeling good about their speculations.

[50 Judge Powers]

How does ETL agree to Quick's proposition the infected may not be informed of their infection, yet still asks the mod about them announcing it?? I mean, the question directed @Mod doesn't appear to have a shred of doubt about them getting notified of it.

VOTE: ETL

[50 Judge Powers]

Again: NO. Only the original 3 members of Mafia can infect people. The infected are like "Traitors" who do not know their main team, but the main team knows them. They also can be killed by the main team, and they lose if the main team is eliminated.

this comes from a place of great knowledge...

Shut up, Nero! Try THINKING before you throw out accusations. Why would a Mafioso EVER say what I'm saying in public??

[50 Judge Powers]

I still hold that Mafia might have an arsonist, but that might only be ONE of their roles. They might also have a GF and/or a Cult Leader.

Actually, this is more sus than ETL's.

VOTE: Quick

[50 Judge Powers]

I think it’s worthwhile to note that there is mafia and then there is infected and while infected are considered mafia-aligned the mafia are not classified as infected.

Slightly redeeming.

Also, don't be fooled by my sudden boost in motivation. I'm sure it will soon fade away again. I'm just trying to do the most with it while it lasts

[50 Judge Powers]

I think infected people can infect other people by doing night actions but mafia don’t inherently infect people with their actions.

Geez! Just when I was considering reconsidering my read on you. It says the infection is a factional thing, and the infected are NOT "Mafia" themselves. They are 3P aligned with the Scum. That is why the mod has them as a separate entity when stating the wincons. It says the win con for Mafia/Infected, which is a clear indication Infected =/= Mafia, and thus Infected canNOT infect people, because ONLY MAFIA CAN.

Now I challenge you to design a game with your stated/allegedly perceived mechanics, and make it remotely balanced. You've got until the end of the year.

[50 Judge Powers]

Like, really... Mafia is lucky enough to infect a Fruit vendor on N1 (say), and on N2 they infect a Hider, while the FV infects some other player. That'd be 3 infected already by the start of D3, and then by the start of D4 the Mafia infect someone and each of their recruits infects another and we have 6 infected + 3 Mafia + 3 lynched + 2 killed (assuming they don't kill an infected player). The game is fucking over already because there's no way we can lynch 3 Mafia before the Mafia + Infected gain parity.

[50 Judge Powers]

Again: NO. Only the original 3 members of Mafia can infect people.

You're speaking on this so confidently as though you know for sure, when you should know about as much as we all do.

I happen to have the privilege of thinking constructively rather than farting and smelling my own gas. It's all about the wording of the rules (something a disappointing portion of players never pay attention to) and a balancing concept (experienced players like yourself should always consider that). As I said (later) if the infected can infect other people themselves the game is over before D4 even. I spoke too fast in that post, but with 5 town deaths the remaining slots are 16 and then we have 3 Mafia + 6 Infected and that's a MAJORITY.

[50 Judge Powers]

It happened much faster than I gad expected. My motivation is dead.

I'll keep on reading, and will "try" to get myself to post still, but I am disappointed in how the game is going right now, so excuse me while I do a ton of other stiff while trying to catch up.

[50 Judge Powers]

thats not the same thing? A50 s saying that they all can recruit as in like there will be 3 recruits tonight. But the one in the op makes it sound like there will be 1 recruit a night b/c its a factional ability not linked to a role.

What I mean is there is no specific "Cult Leader". In the most common CULT games the Cult Leader is the only one who can recruit, and if you lynch/kill that you stop the cult from growing. In this game you can only stop the infection from spreading by killing/lynching all 3 Mafia.

[50 Judge Powers]

though I dunno exactly how the nk would work, b/c if they infect a player tonight and then like kill him? or be forced to use one of there 2 kills outside of the pool but that seems unfair to them....

would be funny if a50 DID slip the mafia has multiple infections tonight to start building up that pool.

That would make no sense. The game would end on N2. All they need is to mislynch twice and NK twice (or even once) and the remaining players would be 18, 3 of which are Mafia and 6 are infected = parity achieved.

[50 Judge Powers]

yes, no scum have ever revealed set up information so they look all smart. nope.

It would actually be DUMB. Instead, Mafia would always try to mislead Town into thinking of different other solutions early on so that they can get a head start of a day or two. Like, until Town figures out they'be been illogical in their propositions it would probably be too late for them catch up anyway. Why not let you/others think all infected roles can spread the infection themselves and have the town panicking by D2? If I want to win as Mafia I would use that mindset to sweep it all over.

But anyway, you do you. I know it's hard to convince you with anything that didn't originate from your own mind, and I would rather not waste our time/energy in this TvT debate.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why would Mafioso!Quick say what he said in public?

Misinformation. It's the way Mafia wins this (aside from Town's own goose hunt)

[50 Judge Powers]

ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION!

What do you want to know about shagging? I claim to be an expert in that department.

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

Quick, A50, can you please put your votes back on me now?

1- Not yet ready to end the day
2- Not as sure you are scum anymore
3- This could be a trick if you are scum. Like, I dunno how far Ircher would go with his "bastardness" but if it was me, FL or Varsoon you might expect a scum role that does something harmful to Town if flipped early, I don't think Ircher is that type of mod though, so let's stick with the first 2 reasons.

[50 Judge Powers]

We are going to get at least ONE THING accomplished today.

And what exactly are we accomplishing IF you are Town?

[50 Judge Powers]

VOTE: mastina

No. There are far more people you can point to that have had a committed opinion of me to make lynching me more beneficial than lynching mastina.

With you campaigning for your own lynch I don't think scum will bother be on you. If you are indeed a townie then 0-1 scum will be voting you if the lynch goes through.

I mean, I dunno anymore. Should I just assume you know what you're doing and that there is actually a plan here?

[50 Judge Powers]

a) A Doctor who gives out a vaccine
b) A Doctor who cures the infected and once cured you can no longer get infected again

There should be multiple of this sort of role, actually, not just one. If there were only one, we'd be fucked if they died early-on by being too town/high profile/much of a threat/etc. especially if infected.

I'd expect there to be, like. Five, eight, thereabouts, such roles and similar. Probably not half of the town having such roles, but enough of the town having them that the scum would need to work really hard and be really precise to eliminate them all.

If you read my post in full I did mention a Nurse is a possibility. I'd say if this game was intended to be slightly townsided (to compensate for town stupidity nowadays) there should be one of each + a backup or two (either a backup for each or one "Universal Nurse", so to speak).

But if I was designing the game I would only have one Doctor (either or) plus one backup. The cure doesn't affect those who are not infected and the vaccine doesn't work on those who are already infected, granted, but still too much townpower for scum to overcome if there is/are backups and too swingy if there are not.

[50 Judge Powers]

Do not let mastina later claim that she was just “mistaken” after spending so many posts trying to convince people she’s such an authority on my gameplay.

I hate to disappoint you, but I've seen it first hand and I know mastina can be like that as town too. I am not yet picking the "scum vibes" from her play.

Disclaimer: Not a defense of mastina. Just saying that I do not SR her right now.

[50 Judge Powers]

I claim to be an expert in that department.

you aren't an expert. you just CLAIM to be?

It's a mod-confirmed claim though.

@Mod: Please confirm me as such.

[50 Judge Powers]

@Mod: No prods needed in this game for as long as Quick is in it. He's posting enough to cover for everybody else's absence.

@Hoctac: Outing your reads is bad anyway. Consider this (if you are Town): You have me (say) as your top TR today, and you get infected overnight and suddenly want to lynch me.

The best strategy to play this is to "fake" a SR on one or two of your strongest TRs and then you won't find it hard to continue pushing them -for real- if you get infected. If you don't, just keep SRing them in public so they are less likely to get infected too, and THAT -my friend- is the Town!Bloc you need to solve the game.

~The Most Perceptive. Wise And Convimcing Of Them All

[50 Judge Powers]

VOTE: 50 Judge Powers

I would prefer to leave this as a naked for for now.

Oh, boy! A NAKED vote is a MUCH sexier vote.

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

ETL is not scum. Auro might be though. If I suddenly start defending Auro tomorrow you may as well just lynch one of us.

[50 Judge Powers]

Lots of new posts but not much of new thoughts. I'm taking Saudade's advice though and sticking with where my vote is.

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm concerned (but not overly so) about Miss Lynch promoting the idea the infected players can kill, and Voted trying to fake a townslip by stating scum don't have daytalk. I think the latter is more concerning though.

This game needs the more experienced GAME DESIGNERS to participate more.. (Looking at FL & mastina in particular).

[50 Judge Powers]

Saudi Dad posted

Saudis don't talk in Hebrew though

[50 Judge Powers]

A coded message back at Saudade:
לעולם לא מוותר לך
לעולם לא אאכזב אותך
לעולם לא מתרץ
ונטוש אותך
לעולם לא אביא אותך לבכות
לעולם לא נפרד
לעולם אל אספר שקר ופגע בך

A coded message to both Saudade & Auro

לזיין אתכם
המשחק מבלבל מספיק בשבילך להקליד בשפה שאיש לא יכול לקרוא בלי תרגום של גוגל

[50 Judge Powers]

Okay, maybe dave is Scum.

Because he can't read Hebrew?

[50 Judge Powers]

It got old A50

I'm an old monkey, bro.

[50 Judge Powers]

Four more, please. My win con is to see TEN replace-outs on D1.

[50 Judge Powers]

6. Aristophanes-would lynch
8. Vecna-eh....
13. gobbledygook eh.....
15. EspeciallyTheLies-eh maybe
16. 50 Judge Powers can die
20. Tchill13 can die
21. Saudade can die

there are way too many ppl I want dead

Why the hell would you want me dead on D1?? Have you NEVER EVER learnt anything from the years we've been playing together? Leave me alone on D1, man. Come back to me on D2 or D3 if you like, but let me be on D1 is the golden rule.

[50 Judge Powers]

Welcome new comers (and especially Nahdia whom I haven't heard of for a couple of years maybe).

As for the game, I can't make heads or tails of anything, so I'll be happy if you all let me know who I should be nagging today. My cirrent pool consists of Quick, Quick & Quick. I could also compromise on Quick if you all agree to it. For now:

VOTE: Quick

Oh, btw.. that's 8 replacements by my count. Can I get 3 more and exit the game?

[50 Judge Powers]

all you have to do is confirm if you are infected or not

i have a cure for you if you are

If I can't make heads or tails of anything then I sure as hell am not infected. Otherwise I'd know I want to lynch you for that claim!

[50 Judge Powers]

A50 - big pile of nothing

Liar! I only had 64 posts (this is my 65th) and you have 522 as we speak. I'd say my pile is a hell lot smaller than yours, so it can never be called a BIG pile of nothing.

[50 Judge Powers]

I've redacted one part of these deductions for a reason, so don't ask

OK, but why?

[50 Judge Powers]

To hone in on infected, simply find players who were making genuine stances on D1 and aren't now.

And now you know what I was talking about on D1

[50 Judge Powers]

If I kissed it please let me know!

If you did you may find some traces of lipstick/shit on your lips (depending on WHERE you kissed it)

[50 Judge Powers]

I love Aris (none-game-related) so I would want to lynch him the least. I mean, this is no ordinary game and thus lynches "as normal" won't work. I suggest we exhaust the deadline and refrain from lynching in hopes one of the proposed 14 vaccines would work and then we can all be immune and the infected can get cured and THEN the

Chinese

Americans

Extraterrestrials

perpetrators will have to give up and give in.

[50 Judge Powers]

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There are few trees on the Falklands. The natural vegetation consists of coastal fringes of tussac grass, oceanic heath, acid grassland, peat bog and upland feldmark communities. Tussac is the tallest native plant and originally formed stands around the coasts, extending at least 200 m and sometimes 800 m inland, and covering small islands. On the main islands and many of those offshore the vegetation has been degraded by accidental or agricultural burning and grazing by sheep, cattle, pigs, horses and, more recently, guanaco, reindeer and goats. Tussac has almost disappeared from the coasts, and only survives in its original state on some relatively remote offshore islands. The vascular plant flora comprise some 170 native taxa, of which 14 are considered endemic. 25 endemic mosses have also been identified. There are 180 recorded introduced plant species. 23 plants on FI were included in the 2003 IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Populations are being threatened by invasive alien species, grazing animals and habitat destruction.

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The main resources which occur in the fishery are illex squid, fished principally by specialised squid jigging vessels from the Far East, and the loligo squid, fished mainly by FI trawlers. In addition the fishery has a number of finfish including blue whiting, hake and hoki.

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A South Atlantic Fisheries Commission has been set up by Britain and Argentina to explore ways of improving conservation of migratory and straddling stocks, but in recent years (2005/2006) Argentina has reduced co-operation with the SAFC and attempts to promote a RFMO have stalled. In recent years both Argentina and the Falkland Islands have closed their respective fisheries for illex earlier than the scheduled end to the season in order to conserve stocks.

The fishery presents commercial opportunities for Falklands companies to provide support services to the fishing fleets, and to become increasingly involved in the fishery themselves.

A dramatic reduction in the illex catches in recent years underlines the precarious nature of this resource: average catches in the FI zones reduced from over 100,000 tonnes per year to less than 10,000 tonnes per year in 2003/ 2004 (1800 tons in 2004, some recovery in 2005). Catches in the Southwest Atlantic generally were higher. This decrease is thought to be due to a combination of non-regulated fishing on the high seas and poor recruitment due to changing oceanographic conditions.

The shelf around the Falkland Islands may contain hydrocarbon resources. The FIG announced a 200mile oil exploration zone around the islands in 1993, and early seismic surveys suggest substantial reserves capable of producing 500,000 barrels per day. Exploratory drilling is expected in the North Falkland basin in 2007. Exploration for gold is also ongoing.

Tourism is increasing rapidly. A basic infrastructure exists to support land tourism. The Islands attract birdwatchers, wildlife enthusiasts, photographers and anglers. Cruise ship visits have increased from 5000 passengers in 1995/96 to over 40,000 in 2005/06. This rise in numbers is mostly due to an increase in the worldwide cruise industry.

Sheep farming makes up 95% of the Islands' agricultural activity. The Department of Agriculture is seeking to increase the profitability of the Islands’ 90 farms.

Another large source of income is interest paid on government bank deposits. The British military presence also provides a sizeable economic boost.

Ha! The Joke's on you. I didn't even read this.

[50 Judge Powers]

Ha! The Joke's on you. I didn't even read this.

Did you have to quote the entire thing?

I absolutely did. Otherwise it would not have had the same annoying effect.

Let me simplify this for your turkey brain. He said he wanted to post a wall, and I thought I might as well quote the wall to double the effect.

Got it yet?

[50 Judge Powers]

Ha! The Joke's on you. I didn't even read this.

...

What a pagetop XD

Yup. And coming from someone who never seeks or cares about a pafgerop..

[50 Judge Powers]

Ha! The Joke's on you. I didn't even read this.

Did you have to quote the entire thing?

I absolutely did. Otherwise it would not have had the same annoying effect.

Let me simplify this for your turkey brain. He said he wanted to post a wall, and I thought I might as well quote the wall to double the effect.

Got it yet?

Please die

Since you asked nicely; you have my permission to vote me.

[50 Judge Powers]

I wish I had a vig.

Spoiler:

Spoilered per the rules.
~Covid 19

[50 Judge Powers]

Oops! Forgot to spoiler that. SORRY. @Mod

[50 Judge Powers]

Pedit. please hold!!! let someone with a better command of English handle this.

ME! ME! ME! Me is vary gud en inglish

[50 Judge Powers]

Finally people are noticing Quick is scum! GOOD. (I'm already voting there and have been since D1)

On another note, I do have some strong TRs now, but I'm NOT outing them because: A) I don't want them to get infected. and B) I don't want to be outed if >I< get infected and have to push them for the lynch

[50 Judge Powers]

Damn it, A50’s scum.

If I was; you would have been infected already and you know it. And then I would have asked you if you received my gift to you and when you confirm I would have claimed Loyal Fruit Vendor and confirmed you as Town.

[50 Judge Powers]

Damn it, A50’s scum.

If I was; you would have been infected already and you know it. And then I would have asked you if you received my gift to you and when you confirm I would have claimed Loyal Fruit Vendor and confirmed you as Town.

There’s some merit to this.

You haven't even read the best part yet:

I would also ask the mod if infections resolves before or after the NK and depending on it I would have shot you tonight/tomorrow, because A) You dying first as SCUM is a good omen for the scum team, and B) flipping you as infected should clear me because "Why the hell would scum kill someone they had previously cleared?"

PERFECT PLAN, EH?

[50 Judge Powers]

I got caught up.. kind of.. and then I wanted to post and.. well.. I couldn't remember a single thing of what I had intended to comment about. Now this is why I usually post while catching up and I have no friggin' idea what made me decide I wanted to do it differently this time.

Also, my bloody internet is on and off all the time now, so it's a massive let down to try to click ANYTHING at all

[50 Judge Powers]

i'd lynch hoctac for not sending me fruit

Tonight tonight, I promise. No way would scum roleblock me again

Spoiler:

[50 Judge Powers]

Youre all dumb and I think Bingle is scum

?? When did he even join the game?

[50 Judge Powers]

Blair replaces Creature.

That doesn't count as it's a slot that has already been replaced before. My win con is 10 different LIVING replacements at D1 and 1 additional replacement per subsequent gameday (that's some eloquent paraphrasing there), which means I still need 2 more "starting players" to replace out. (Crazy wincon IMHO, but I like the genuineness of it)

[50 Judge Powers]

@Quick: I honestly can't understand your play and thus can't make up my mind about you. I did SR your play from earlier, but now I am wondering what it is you're doing regardless of your alignment.

To elaborate: Why are we talking about an Oka Lynch and what it means of he flips red? FTR, I am neither for nor against lynching Oka, but -to my knowledge- he wasn't even being voted before you decided to switch to him (and off the counter wagon to your own).

Now why would scum/town take their vote off their counter wagon at THIS time (with less than 5 real days left in the Day).

As town: Did you suddenly change your mind and decide Jake was more likely a townie? Did you see something that you consider a scum claim by Oka? Did you resign to the fact your lynch works best for town?? Do you have another reason I didn't think of?

As scum: Is this an attempt to distance yourself from a scum p? Is JAKE your scum buddy and you decided to eat rope while FAKING an associative with Oka (by pretending to be distancing from him)? Is this a desperate attempt to launch a late-into-the-day wagon that may save your neck (as -maybe- you realized you would lose the race vs Jake)??

I can't make up my mind until you explain your play to my monkey brain. Would you be willing to engage one of your scum reads?

[50 Judge Powers]

to the ppl voting Quick-

is a50 scum?

I am voting Quick, and I am dead certain A50 is NOT scum in this game.

~JJD

[50 Judge Powers]

can we have the real a50 in here instead this weird uncanny valley clone

The real

slim shady

A50 is not available at this time. Please leave a message after the beep.

~AP

[50 Judge Powers]

my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.

That does coincide with my own comprehension of the mechanics

[50 Judge Powers]

my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.

Good theory, actually. I like this idea, but IDK how true it is. I figured it was a CULT game because I am NOT expecting MADE UP roles - only roles that already exist but just have different flavor names. That is what I gathered from ETL.

It has to be true because a Cult that starts with THREE members and can recruit each night is way too overpowered there's not stopping them. This is also why there gas to be a role or two to redeem the recruits (cure the infected) or the game is already over before it's begun.

[50 Judge Powers]

my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.

Good theory, actually. I like this idea, but IDK how true it is. I figured it was a CULT game because I am NOT expecting MADE UP roles - only roles that already exist but just have different flavor names. That is what I gathered from ETL.

A50 already brought this up d1. It makes sense and it made me kinda think that a50 was scum (and now Nahdia)

I am scum because I make sense??!!

[50 Judge Powers]

you at least owe it to the rest of the playerlist

Spoiler: You owe it to your family. You owe it to yourself.

[50 Judge Powers]

@mod

Is it gamethrowing to announce yourself as infected to get cured?

I don't see this question coming at this particular town from anyone BUT the infected themselves. Just FTR.

Can we lynch Quick and have "a Doctor" take care of Jake tonight? (Of course, scum are welcome to kill him too if so they desire, because I would expect him to be immune if he gets cured, and NK should resolve after cure in NAR, so that's one of 2 kills on uninfected players)

[50 Judge Powers]

If this is wrong, A50 is just Scum...

Man, I admire your confidence!

[50 Judge Powers]

technically speaking as town you're trying to be town again because thats your win con.

So you really cant say anything other than I'd asked to be cured until youre informed of your infected win con.

I a, not sure I undertand what you're saying, so forgive me if I go astray.

I interpreted this as you saying the infected are still town (wrong assumption) until they "receive" their new wincon? The wincon that is literally posted by MOD on P1?? Is that what you are saying?

[50 Judge Powers]

To the extent that TSTBS is bullshit.

But is 50JP playing a scummy game? I don't think so necessarily

Jame what makes him look scummy to you? I just see someone goofing around a bit too much maybe.

50Japan hasn't posted much substancd.

Spoiler:

[50 Judge Powers]

I'm a Frail Partygoer. Frail = I die immediately if I'm infected. Partygoer = I have to visit one player each night. If I visit an infected player I become infected and die. I asked the mod what my Night 1 visit was and it was Jake, so at least we know he wasn't infected when I visited him Night 1. I'll visit him again tonight.

THAT is actually some VALUABLE piece of info. You're essentially a "Weak Visitor". I don't think you should have announced who you intended to visit next though. Your role's true value is/was to confirm people are not infected up to a certain point (the night you visit them) so you just announce AFTER the fact. (But that's NOT me telling you how to play, but rather explaining how >I< would have played it)

[50 Judge Powers]

Update: My role resolves before an infection, in the event they occur on the same player in the same night.

THANK YOU. I thus don't think you should visit Jake tonight (and please do NOT announce your alternative target beforehand). Jake gets targeted by a Doctor/Healer and you either live to confirm someone is clear (up to the start of N2) or die without giving scum the chance to use your role to frame someone (and consequently messing with the Doctor's work as well).

[50 Judge Powers]

I have good reason to believe Blair is fakeclaiming. Namely, the thing Nahdia was alluding to? That's a detail in my original role PM. As in, details of whether my role interacts with infected players on the same night they are in my original role PM. I didn't need to ask the mod; the interactions were all laid out in my original role PM.

That Blair needs to ask about them suggests that Blair's lying about their claim.

Is she known for elaborate fake claiming?

[50 Judge Powers]

Like, my role has, to paraphrase it, a clause specifying, "if your target has the disease (including on the night you target them)". This runs in stark contrast to Blair's alleged role, which according to Blair, not only wasn't specified, but after asking a question which should've been resolved in the original PM,

Update: My role resolves before an infection, in the event they occur on the same player in the same night.

...Doesn't match the resolution on my role.

Blair's claimed role lacks a specified interaction which is present in my role, and the alleged interaction is different from the one stated in my role.

So. Balance of probability--probably a fakeclaim.

I don't want to know your role, but could it not be possible you -say- KILL the infected? If so, kills resole AFTER the infection, while Visiting resolves before the infection. Come on!

[50 Judge Powers]

Like, my role has, to paraphrase it, a clause specifying, "if your target has the disease (including on the night you target them)". This runs in stark contrast to Blair's alleged role, which according to Blair, not only wasn't specified, but after asking a question which should've been resolved in the original PM,

Update: My role resolves before an infection, in the event they occur on the same player in the same night.

...Doesn't match the resolution on my role.

Blair's claimed role lacks a specified interaction which is present in my role, and the alleged interaction is different from the one stated in my role.

So. Balance of probability--probably a fakeclaim.

My role lacks any specifics too but I got a clear answer when I asked the mod. Blair isn’t lying just because her role PM didn’t mention that specific interaction.

Do we really have to out who is a PR and who is not over this???

[50 Judge Powers]

I don't think it's impossible that scum would filter in correct information in an attempt to make themselves look better.

That is why you suck at scum, my friend. You don't know what to out and what not to?? And besides, do you think I'm your average scum player who plays a text-book scum game? I mean, based on you experience with me, is that what you think of me/my scum game? My advise is to go check the games we played together where I rolled scum (there are those when you were town, and there were those where we were scum partners) and see if I "filter in correct info" to look better when said info is better kept undercover. I rather enjoy letting town chase it's own tail when I roll scum because -if for no other reason- it saves me the trouble of inventing my own lies to mislead them.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why are people TRing A50?

Let me ask you a counter question: Why are you scumreading me? And I don't mean

surface level

* analysis, but rather what do you think is my scum-motive behind everything you see as scummy from me?

Disclaimer: I do NOT want to undermine Quick's SR on me (assuming he flips green), but would really like to know what he thinks of me and on what basis. I understand a SR from Nero (that's how he thinks), and I understand a TR from Ari (also see his PoV), but I cannot see why I am being SR'd by Quick nor what basis he has for it, and I merely want to know.

*FL Trademark. Used under permission, All rights reserved.

[50 Judge Powers]

communists: {jake, tse, a50, 5g}

socialists: {piss, hectic}

YA ne kommunist, tovarishch!

[50 Judge Powers]

What if the Recovery in SIR meant instantaneous death?

And how do people get immunized would you suggest?

[50 Judge Powers]

I kinda forgot what was going on in this game

I think Tom Hardy was asking for you somewhere

[50 Judge Powers]

Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

Definitely. I already explained how I'd go about it too.

[50 Judge Powers]

I don't want to know your role, but could it not be possible you -say- KILL the infected? If so, kills resole AFTER the infection, while Visiting resolves before the infection. Come on!

So, uh.

Almost50.

Where'd you get this information from? Because per NAR:

Copy
Hide
Bus Drive
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect

Kills resolve before recruitments do--and recruitments would be the type of action I'd classify 'infection' as.

Yes, the mod did say they weren't using NAR specifically, so using NAR to say kills come before infection isn't reliable, but I'm using it to say that your information cannot come from NAR.

So where did you get that information? It wasn't from NAR.

First, I'd categorize the infection under miscellaneous myself
Second, I wasn't exactly referring to any specific resolution system. I was making the point that different actions have different priorities. Period. Like, Varsoon almost never used NAR per se, but "some system" and under that system different actions had their own priorities. In other words, your action resolves after the infection does and Blair's action resolves before the infection. That's it.

[50 Judge Powers]

What if the Recovery in SIR meant instantaneous death?

Actually I think A50 should elaborate on what their train of thought was there. I'm not seeing how they came to the conclusion that kills resolve after an infection.

Feels like the kind of thing one would know if they, say, were in a faction that can infect people and/or kill people.

As I said, it wasn't meant to say "kills" resolve at a specific priority, but rather "a different action than Blair's" would.

[50 Judge Powers]

For one, you have zero reactions to things you should be reacting to. Why am I Scum? Is it legit what I think because of what I said about the setup (that you contradict, which is actually contradicted because there has only been 1 infected)?

I'll put it as brief as I can. but feel free to ask for elaboration on specifics:

1- On D1 it felt like you were misleading town on purpose. You are experienced enough to make an elighted good guess on what to expect in a game like this, so pulling the noob card felt like something scum!me would do if I underestimated the players list rather than genuine ignorance/confusion

2- You read list(s) appear to be static, especially towards the bottom.

3- I asked you a question (about your unvote) and you managed to give a response that practically answered NONE of my concerns. I even gave you OPTIONS to pick from, and yet you didn't want to commit yourself to one in particular.

4- I also suggested we engage eachother, and instead you opted to ask others why they TR me. Btw, did you get any answers that you felt may be justifiable? Did you deduce something about the alignment of those you asked about me? Did you benefit at all from that line of questioning??

[50 Judge Powers]

OK, How many times did we play together before? (I can only remember you in TM 2018 and I wasn't even in your game, but I have a bad memory).

Also, how many of my scum games have you ever spectated? Do you have any meta on me or are you just treating me as "someone you don't know"??