Masochist Mafia II [Game Over]

[Ramcius]

Jingle is probably dead night 1 if town

I don't see reason for scum to kill him, when Jingle is helping them

[Ramcius]

How is Jingle helping them?

Suggested Nancy for desperado shot, proposed lurker PL instead of trying lynch someone scummy and active with some interactions to work with afterwards

[Ramcius]

That's not helping scum if nancy is scum. How do you know she's town? I thought we were all being lazy and lynching a lurker.

Who do you propose we lynch who is scummy then Ram?

That's where things get tricky - Jingle scumreads me, yet he don't want my lynch, cause lynching active people would hurt game activity, but he wants desperado Nancy, who is as active as me

Well, technically yes, people are lazy, except that Jingle scumreads me, yet don't want to hurt game's overall activity by lynching me and I scumread him and I want him dead, cause most things he says makes no sense and someone as good as Jingle should know that. For example justifying lurker lynch with "we will show other lurkers that lurking will get them killed"

[Ramcius]

I want him dead, cause most things he says makes no sense and someone as good as Jingle should know that. For example justifying lurker lynch with "we will show other lurkers that lurking will get them killed"

weird / "I don't get it" =/= scummy

scummy =/= scum

[Ramcius]

Why PL NM over Salamance? NM was behaving in here, as for Salamance, I have doubts about his patience to hold in this game

[Ramcius]

NM is a policy lynch, so no reason

[Ramcius]

Why PL NM over Salamance? NM was behaving in here, as for Salamance, I have doubts about his patience to hold in this game

Based on what

Sixth fortnite

[Ramcius]

We still have 4 days to go before night

[Ramcius]

Jingle, can you tell Salamance will contribute in the future? NM survived a year without causing major incident, while I have no guarantees for Salamance not pulling some gambit again, if he gets bored again

[Ramcius]

Please don't try save this game, thanks. I'm not blaming you for loss, I just don't want your shenanigans here

[Ramcius]

Tbh, I love how people are fired up for D2 without realizing that actual game won't start till December 2020 Ofc you can try play seriously, but what the point, if deadline is a year away

[Ramcius]

I see someone finally realized what he got into

[Ramcius]

was there ever any resolution to the desperado shot on mcmenno?

There was none, Korina asked for target, Nancy quoted McMenno's post, where he volunteered, Korina used desperado in thread and now we wait for results

[Ramcius]

Are replacements not told that days run for a year?

I knew that it’s just I didn’t know what you guys do during those 365 days.

Most people do nothing, few of us shitpost, sometimes people get weird ideas of playing mafia and we have to explain them errors of their ways

[Ramcius]

Hammer doesn't exist here, it's either someone has majority at end of the day or not. That said we have 3 more days to go anyway

[Ramcius]

Was that supposed to be an insult?

Why you in such rush to hit majority? Already bored?

[Ramcius]

Please no Sailor Moon memes

[Ramcius]

Please no Sailor Moon memes

lol why

I've seen things and now I can't see Sailor Moon same way I did seen it before

[Ramcius]

Oh really

Spoiler:

I see this thumbnail picture now, when someone mention Sailor Moon

[Ramcius]

so what you're saying is I should 100% watch that video here at work?

Dunno, I never watched it

[Ramcius]

Curiosity got the better of me and I started watching it

it's actually pretty boring, essentially bad puns on titles
98% clickbait

Spoiler:

[Ramcius]

Please no Sailor Moon memes

lol why

I've seen things and now I can't see Sailor Moon same way I did seen it before

Show me on a doll what the bad Serena did to you.

I kinda did, open spoiler What surprises me is that you know her name, cause I didn't or rather I forgot, it was way too many years since I've seen couple episodes of it

[Ramcius]

Please no Sailor Moon memes

lol why

I've seen things and now I can't see Sailor Moon same way I did seen it before

Show me on a doll what the bad Serena did to you.

I kinda did, open spoiler What surprises me is that you know her name, cause I didn't or rather I forgot, it was way too many years since I've seen couple episodes of it

That was one anime that I really was familiar with. I was pretty hooked on it for awhile. Don’t ask me why.

I'm not judging, this one doesn't fall in 90% trash category

[Ramcius]

if we were to lynch mcmenno would korina get his desperado shot back?

HEY, IF YOU DO THAT I'M DESPERADOING YOU. I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY HYPOTHETICAL RECENT MUSTACHE SHENANIGINS, BUT I'M STILL DESPERADOING YOU

Spoiler:

Tbh, I'd shoot you, if I could, for putting moustache on Miller

[Ramcius]

if we were to lynch mcmenno would korina get his desperado shot back?

HEY, IF YOU DO THAT I'M DESPERADOING YOU. I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY HYPOTHETICAL RECENT MUSTACHE SHENANIGINS, BUT I'M STILL DESPERADOING YOU

Spoiler:

Tbh, I'd shoot you, if I could, for putting moustache on Miller

Did you watch season 4 yet?

Yes, now another year to wait for season 5...

[Ramcius]

Yes, now another year to wait for season 5...

I don;t know if you've read the books but shit is going down in season 5

No, I haven't, but I believe you, they put so much things in motion in season 4 that I can't wait to see how it all ends

[Ramcius]

I have a spicy suggestion - let's lynch RC, I'm pretty sure he's scum here

[Ramcius]

I have a spicy suggestion - let's lynch RC, I'm pretty sure he's scum here

Hey, don't suggest lynching my alter ego that's ten years younger and Male.

You're right, we should lynch you instead, you are co-mod's alt, that should be against the rules

[Ramcius]

Ramcius being so against this wagon for reasons I can't seem to drag out of him at all makes me really happy with this lynch, btw.

I literally told you - NM jokes made me laugh, so I'd rather not lynch someone, who brought some entertainment to me trough the year we had in here

[Ramcius]

Ramcius being so against this wagon for reasons I can't seem to drag out of him at all makes me really happy with this lynch, btw.

I literally told you - NM jokes made me laugh, so I'd rather not lynch someone, who brought some entertainment to me trough the year we had in here

Fire can make him a normal, so I really wouldn’t worry too much about that.

Do I look like I'm worrying? I haven't tried change lynch for last couple days

[Ramcius]

Ramcius being so against this wagon for reasons I can't seem to drag out of him at all makes me really happy with this lynch, btw.

I literally told you - NM jokes made me laugh, so I'd rather not lynch someone, who brought some entertainment to me trough the year we had in here

Fire can make him a normal, so I really wouldn’t worry too much about that.

Do I look like I'm worrying? I haven't tried change lynch for last couple days

Sometimes, I really think you read way too much into my posting.

I think you think that my posts has more serious tone than I intend

[Ramcius]

Wouldn't Nancy Nikos be better?

[Ramcius]

Shouldn't it be like, not day one now?

Yes, we should get your flip and go into night any time now

[Ramcius]

Before anyone asks - I have no idea what Salamance did to me, I got no fruit or anything of that sort

[Ramcius]

Indeed, FB isn't that cruel after all, we don't have sit here for a decade

[Ramcius]

Is there a way here to block someone's messages here? Foe isn't working, sadly

[Ramcius]

Jokes are funny, what you do isn't funny to anyone, even yourself

[Ramcius]

I'd agree with 360 days, 5 days for PL is plenty

[Ramcius]

Oh, also, can we vote obvscum

VOTE: ramcius

If you really think NM was my scumbuddy, you're funny dude

[Ramcius]

I signed up to Masochist Mafia not Massacre Mafia : (

Wasn't you part of it? You did claimed vig

[Ramcius]

Why not consider PGO? Or multiball? Grey color for scum is strange

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[Ramcius]

Main thing with Nancy D1 was she saying that he has no interest in playing seriously, yet stopping my attempts to push Jingle, refusing to townread Jingle and very reluctant to fight Jingle back, when he was taking stabs at her. To me it looked like Jingle distancing from Nancy and Nancy trying to keep me at bay while being afraid to push strong scumbuddy back, but now I don't know

[Ramcius]

Oh yeah and Ramcius is painfully obvtown

He's also an AI and we need to stop the robot's taking over before it's too late

Don't worry, you will be safely stored elsewhere, when I take over

[Ramcius]

That’s really interesting. Anyone have any guess as to why Datisi flip was obviously janitored?

Datisi wasn't janitored, her role is hidden, same as NM, so some game mechanic I guess

[Ramcius]

I will be insufferable in all games to come regardless of Nancy's read accuracy.

Also, you can join the Order of the Chicken Nuggets if you agree to play the Wendy's game.

I'm in

[Ramcius]

Well, shouldn't you look for her killer then instead of pestering me with your scumread?

[Ramcius]

Someone has to be alive in first place to die

[Ramcius]

Nancy, why Postie is town? Joined wagon late, sketchy miller claim

[Ramcius]

Nancy, why Postie is town? Joined wagon late, sketchy miller claim

Claiming Bulletproof Miller Vig

Well. first thing comes to mind is we can investigate this. I didn’t realize this but it could possibly explain one of the kills if legit. @Postie, who did you vig and why? However, that still leaves one unexplained one. By right, if she vigged Titus with her powerful role, she might deserved to be Pl’ed for that, only half serious.

Her IC seems pretty townie but if I am wrong on either Karnage or Overkill11 being Salad’s partner, she is my least confident tr. Prior to D2, she claimed to tr me and suddenly I’m her #1 living sr? Like how?

Another thing is we have no claimed cops - allignment otherwise, to confirm miller being in the setup and miller minus allignment cop is highly unlikely.

Also she hard tr Jingle and is now hard tr you. Are you seeing that as some kind of pocket? I do think she probably is a vig but generally hard claims like this, tend to come from town.

Well, if you had read this thread, you'd know that Postie retracted her vig claim after I questioned her

Am I not towny enough to have tr from Postie? Considering you agree with that read

Funny how you bring her tr on Jingle, but what's with you defending Jingle from me D1 yet refusing to tr him? It felt like you wanted keep tension between us as you never really tried to debunk my pushes and prove me wrong, so I had no real reason to stop

[Ramcius]

Oh so she redacted it? I will have to reread it then. Do you recall which post?

I wasn’t playing the game until now. Now that there’s actual flips, I now actually have something to work with. I tr you for a lot of reasons like being opposed to UTL lynch, for example. It’s like 97% Salad and unless one of my tr are off, probably between Karnage and Overkill11 for the partner.

I’ve never played with Postie before. I should probably check out some of her games. @Postie, if you’re reading this, please link me to a town and scumgame of yours, kthanx.

Yes, as a joke
I didn't think there would like ?3 actual vigs in the game

That was her answer, when I asked about vig claim

But why you didn't said anything about FA meta D1 and let UTL wagon exist?

[Ramcius]

Oh so she redacted it? I will have to reread it then. Do you recall which post?

I wasn’t playing the game until now. Now that there’s actual flips, I now actually have something to work with. I tr you for a lot of reasons like being opposed to UTL lynch, for example. It’s like 97% Salad and unless one of my tr are off, probably between Karnage and Overkill11 for the partner.

I’ve never played with Postie before. I should probably check out some of her games. @Postie, if you’re reading this, please link me to a town and scumgame of yours, kthanx.

Yes, as a joke
I didn't think there would like ?3 actual vigs in the game

That was her answer, when I asked about vig claim

But why you didn't said anything about FA meta D1 and let UTL wagon exist?

3? I thought only Titus. Who are the other two?

I seriously did wonder if FA rolled scum when I saw that but it was in conjunction with my already strong Salad sr, that I actually made the connection.

I already told you, I wasn’t really playing until now.

We have 4 kills, Postie guessed 3 vigs

So what are your thoughts on this matter?

[Ramcius]

Why not consider PGO? Or multiball? Grey color for scum is strange

Yeah, I suppose that’s also possible but if PGO, then wouldn’t there be one less death?

Like Jingle had to be the obvious scumkill, since he claimed PR and I already suggested Cheeky as the possible vigkill but why Titus and Datisi?

PGO can kills more than one person - they kill all visitors

I have theory about NM and Datisi being in same hood with some ability - hidden roles to hide this hood from everyone else and NMs buddies got rid of Datisi to prevent info to leak out

Jingle might've run into PGO too, I doubt it was vig. Tbh, I have hard time thinking why vig would shoot Titus, Jingle or Datisi, so 3 vig idea didn't really occurred to me

[Ramcius]

Why not consider PGO? Or multiball? Grey color for scum is strange

Yeah, I suppose that’s also possible but if PGO, then wouldn’t there be one less death?

Like Jingle had to be the obvious scumkill, since he claimed PR and I already suggested Cheeky as the possible vigkill but why Titus and Datisi?

PGO can kills more than one person - they kill all visitors

I have theory about NM and Datisi being in same hood with some ability - hidden roles to hide this hood from everyone else and NMs buddies got rid of Datisi to prevent info to leak out

Jingle might've run into PGO too, I doubt it was vig. Tbh, I have hard time thinking why vig would shoot Titus, Jingle or Datisi, so 3 vig idea didn't really occurred to me

Jingle hardclaimed PR, why wouldn’t scum target him? Could be true about Datisi, I guess? But it’s unlikely Titus didn’t use her shot and I can see why she might be suspicious of Cheeky defending NM and can she even vig a PGO anyway?

Why Titus can't be scum kill?

As for Jingle, if scum don't have strongman, they might look elsewhere as chances for protection on Jingle was very high and Jingle wasn't doing that hot to solve the game

[Ramcius]

So your theory is what - Jingle doc’d PGO?

Maybe he died due to old age, I dunno, we have 4 kills and I'm trying to piece things together. We agree that Cheeky most likely was Titus kill, rest 3 are plausible scum kills, so what is your theory? Datisi run into PGO, while Titus and Jingle was taken out by scum?

[Ramcius]

What's MM1?

It's just a theory, cause why else kill Datisi? But you think Jingle was scum kill too, so how Titus died? 3rd scum kill N1?

[Ramcius]

How link to MM1 will solve Jingle's death mystery?

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=65435

[Ramcius]

Also, people, join our quest to defeat Frozen Beef or whatever narrated by our DM Jingle, you know you want it (also it gives you something to do for a year to come in this god forsaken place)

[Ramcius]

How link to MM1 will solve Jingle's death mystery?

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=65435

Thanks, to my amazement, that was surprisingly unhelpful. But Postie being a “dominatrix” tracker was hilarious.


Interesting that scum this game are “altruists” rather than “sadists”.

But dominatrix isn't masochist, it's sadist fetish

[Ramcius]

How link to MM1 will solve Jingle's death mystery?

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=65435

Thanks, to my amazement, that was surprisingly unhelpful. But Postie being a “dominatrix” tracker was hilarious.


Interesting that scum this game are “altruists” rather than “sadists”.

But dominatrix isn't masochist, it's sadist fetish

She was town in that though. You should probably take that up with the mod then.

That's my point - fb is lying to us

[Ramcius]

But dominatrix isn't masochist, it's sadist fetish

There are more kinks in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio.

My friend, I'm not Horatio, also, I know how to use google, highly recommend picking this skill to you too

[Ramcius]

Let's start then with this character creation

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (4, 1, 3, 4) = 12

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (1, 2, 2, 1) = 6

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (1, 4, 4, 1) = 10

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (1, 4, 3, 2) = 10

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (2, 1, 4, 2) = 9

[Ramcius]

Hmmmm

Strength 10
Intelligence 11
Charm 7
Arcana 12
Grace 6

I guess something like this should do

Original Roll String: 4d4

4 4-Sided Dice: (1, 1, 3, 3) = 8

[Ramcius]

5 hp sounds fine and I join Order of the Spicy Chicken Sandwich

So

Strength 10
Intelligence 11
Charm 7
Arcana 13
Grace 6

base def 12
max hp 6

[Ramcius]

Well, we don't have Wendy's here, so I guess no buffs for me

[Ramcius]

Well, we don't have Wendy's here, so I guess no buffs for me

You not playing with us?

[Ramcius]

I’m not entirely sure I even understand the game.

It's simplified DnD made by Wendy's

[Ramcius]

I’m not entirely sure I even understand the game.

It's simplified DnD made by Wendy's

Well, I’ll play if someone helps me out but I also don’t live near a Wendys, so I ideally need a game with delivery.

Try reading rules and ask, when you don't understand something

Don't eat other fast food - you get debuffs

[Ramcius]

I’m not entirely sure I even understand the game.

It's simplified DnD made by Wendy's

Well, I’ll play if someone helps me out but I also don’t live near a Wendys, so I ideally need a game with delivery.

Try reading rules and ask, when you don't understand something

Don't eat other fast food - you get debuffs

Well that’s shite, sometimes my dad takes me to get fast food
I ain’t gimping myself if that happens bro

Talk to our DM Jingle about that, but it's for that day only, so you can just not post anything relevant to game, if you need these rolls

[Ramcius]

Who else wants a duckling sig?

Hell yeah I don't want to be on shrooms anymore

"RWBY isn't anime"

[Ramcius]

Well that’s shite, sometimes my dad takes me to get fast food
I ain’t gimping myself if that happens bro

Well, if you're truly against having the handicap, you can always just not tell me you're eating McDonalds or whatever. It's not like I have a camera watching your eating habits that I'm willing to expose for the sake of this game.

You're a bad influence - don't teach him how to cheat

[Ramcius]

Bingle thought he was scum and he tried to push back on NM being lynched

Luckily I have a year to convince you of this

Jingle thought I was scum, because I told him not to make "X is town" reads after he replaced like 2 months in while we were still having fun in RVS.

As for me pushing NM back - I wanted Salamance's lynch, NM was a counter wagon to that, so why should've I drop my preferred in lynch favor of PL that wasn't warranted? NM was behaving here

[Ramcius]

Bingle thought he was scum and he tried to push back on NM being lynched

Luckily I have a year to convince you of this

Jingle thought I was scum, because I told him not to make "X is town" reads after he replaced like 2 months in while we were still having fun in RVS.

As for me pushing NM back - I wanted Salamance's lynch, NM was a counter wagon to that, so why should've I drop my preferred in lynch favor of PL that wasn't warranted? NM was behaving here

Salamence would have probably flipped town.

Who knows, but point is that we were PLing, no one was making any case or anything to either of them, so scumreading me, because I wanted PL someone I had bad experience lately over someone I liked and was in this game for a year without any incidents sounds a bit ridiculous

[Ramcius]

I'm still a traitor btw

You aren't real traitor - you still haven't betrayed your buddies by telling us who they are

[Ramcius]

Ooooh someone mentioned me.

I live in Reuniclous’s head. Rent-Free.

Come at me bro.

Indeed, I'm upset that NM got lynched instead of you

[Ramcius]

Ooooh someone mentioned me.

I live in Reuniclous’s head. Rent-Free.

Come at me bro.

Indeed, I'm upset

that my scumbuddy got lynched instead of you.

Fixed

I'm expecting formal apology post game, because he wasn't my scumbuddy

[Ramcius]

Ooooh someone mentioned me.

I live in Reuniclous’s head. Rent-Free.

Come at me bro.

Indeed, I'm upset that NM got lynched instead of you

Why would you say that? Sal isn’t scum here.

Only McMenno is town in my book, rest of you are free game

But it has nothing to do with his alignment, or your read on him, he's just annoying and I'd be happier without him here

[Ramcius]

Technically im the counterwagon to scum Ramicus.

Stop and think.

Anyways, Ramicus is town. Im just voting him because I like being annoying to him.

Guys such a hardass.

UNVOTE: Hardass
VOTE: Salad

You can't be counterwagon, if no one's voting you

[Ramcius]

I like Sal and I you know would actually prefer to win this by lynching obvscum but that’s just me.

Considering that you are my strongest scumread atm, I'm not sold on Salad at all

[Ramcius]

I like Sal and I you know would actually prefer to win this by lynching obvscum but that’s just me.

Considering that you are my strongest scumread atm, I'm not sold on Salad at all

I still have no idea why that is but I forgive you.

For once, I find it strange how you so confident in Salamance being town, when you refused to TR Jingle, your case on Salad is very meh, I didn't liked your attempt to take credit for scum NM lynch, when it was straight up PL and we just got lucky, your change in attitude too, you decide play serious, when it doesn't really matter

[Ramcius]

I like Sal and I you know would actually prefer to win this by lynching obvscum but that’s just me.

Considering that you are my strongest scumread atm, I'm not sold on Salad at all

I still have no idea why that is but I forgive you.

For once, I find it strange how you so confident in Salamance being town, when you refused to TR Jingle, your case on Salad is very meh, I didn't liked your attempt to take credit for scum NM lynch, when it was straight up PL and we just got lucky, your change in attitude too, you decide play serious, when it doesn't really matter

When did I take credit for NM lynch? My case in Salad is anything but meh and you will almost certainly know that if he gets flipped.

I already told you I wasn’t playing before that. If you refuse to believe that, then we are never going to get anywhere. I played a game recently with scum!Sal and no way in hell would scum!Sal ever be sheeping me her.

I'm sorry for NM part

FA was Salad’s predecessor and no, you’re not convincing me to move my vote off obvscum. Why is Ram scum? He was against initial UTL wagon. So not really interesting in mislynching town when I’ve correctly nailed one scum.

I thought you meant NM here, not Salad, when you said you nailed scum

But where did Salad sheeped you? He has 5 posts and his only vote was NM, but he did that before you. Whole your case is "FA was doing nothing", you know, like the rest of the game, so I can't accept that as a real case

Yes, I'm well aware that you're playing "serious" and that's my problem. Why you suddenly decided be serious? Why just jump the gun here and call Salad scum, when we have a year to sort people out?

[Ramcius]

We had a talk recently about handing out TRs for no reason, Nancy

So FA's meta is only reason for your scumread, you know how much I hate meta, so it's meh

Yes, you might forget your thought process in a year, but you need convince people in a year, not now, so you better remember it all in December

[Ramcius]

Seems like it's just you and me in this thread, so how many replacements we get D2? I'm guessing 5

[Ramcius]

Nancy, you are replacement too

[Ramcius]

Nancy, you are replacement too

Well Jingle and me were early replacements, I’m obviously referring to the most recent ones.

But then how you count 3 dead replacements? Korina and Cheeky was here from the start, so that leaves only Jingle

[Ramcius]

Well, we clearly have different definitions for "art"

[Ramcius]

Living art is quite a novel idea

[Ramcius]

Didn't know you were philistine

[Ramcius]

sorry i mistyped "i am fart"

Then living modern art

[Ramcius]

Nancy, you really don't understand art, do you?

[Ramcius]

ALL LIVING THINGS KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER

So why you not kneeling then?

[Ramcius]

Nancy, you really don't understand art, do you?

Are you not understanding my humour?

Nope

[Ramcius]

Sigh, too quiet here, so again I will bring up Jingle's game

https://www.feastoflegends.com/

Who's in for a terrible RPG about fucking up Ronald McDonald?

[Ramcius]

I'd say you don't really need to read 100+ pages from D1 as there wasn't much interesting - me and Jingle going at each other and me with Nancy talking shit mostly

[Ramcius]

It feels like everyone went to search Gamma in Never Never Land

[Ramcius]

Order of the Spicy Chicken Sandwich

I just felt like this one is full blown mage, I see you going for different type mage too

[Ramcius]

Nah, we just have to kill everything before they reach us - we'll be mages after all, that's what mages do

[Ramcius]

Don't make our

meatshields

allies leave

[Ramcius]

It's not meme setup, just very simplified and full of Wendy's jokes that can just be skipped if needed. Also, it's players who decide how serious games are

[Ramcius]

Someone ping me, when something starts happening again or memes - especially memes. Kthanx.

Come back December, when we get close to deadline

[Ramcius]

roll another 4d4 for your hp

[Ramcius]

prod dodge? what are we doing now?

Waiting EoD, so we can lynch you

[Ramcius]

prod dodge? what are we doing now?

prod dodge? what are we doing now?

Waiting EoD, so we can lynch you

How does salad have 0 reaction to the flips?

Spoiler:

Cuz he’s scumz

Bussing buddy, eh?

I have really hard time to believe that you figured out "FA is scum, cause of lurk scum meta" only after seeing 5 town deaths. You had plenty opportunities to point at her D1, we could literally desperado her slot, if you said a word, but you pointed at McMenno, when he volunteered, which was huge sign of him being town

[Ramcius]

How about you give me a reason to trust you instead? Cause your excuse doesn't sound plausible, when you were interfering with the game by stopping me from pushing Jingle, you directed desperado shot, you told me to stop defending NM, cause he can come back as normie

Let's try other way then - how you came to conclusion that FA is scum after D2 started?

[Ramcius]

How about you give me a reason to trust you instead? Cause your excuse doesn't sound plausible, when you were interfering with the game by stopping me from pushing Jingle, you directed desperado shot, you told me to stop defending NM, cause he can come back as normie

Let's try other way then - how you came to conclusion that FA is scum after D2 started?

Because I actually checked a game I played with her where she flipped scum. Eventhough I was suspicious of her, I hadn’t followed it up, so at that time, I was only slightly pinged but once I found that game I played with her as scum, I then connected the dots, because her opening in that game was pretty much virtually identical to this one.

Re: McMenno, he actually volunteered, remember?

Re: NM, you were saying you would miss him and I said FB probably makes him a normal anyway.

So you decided not to say a word about your suspicions on FA, cause you weren't playing serious, while we were stumbling in dark whole D1? Explain me why I should trust you?

Yes, I'm well aware on both cases, also these were your direct interfering with the game, was both of them more susp to you than your ping on FA's meta?

How well you are aware of FA's town meta? Does she always active as town?

[Ramcius]

When you go after lurkers (McMenno, UTL, NM) instead of voicing your scumlean on FA, I expect more than "I wasn't playing serious teehee"

[Ramcius]

you two as town is like, my only read

+ you, Gamma, Salamence, Postie, Mena and of course IC McMenno.

PoE is Salad + one of Karnage/Overkill11

I think that’s everyone, right?

Why you think it's singleball game?

[Ramcius]

you two as town is like, my only read

+ you, Gamma, Salamence, Postie, Mena and of course IC McMenno.

PoE is Salad + one of Karnage/Overkill11

I think that’s everyone, right?

Why you think it's singleball game?

???

3 scum according to your readlist, so must be singleball - NM, Salad and one of OK/Karnage

[Ramcius]

Just checking in to ask if we got a majority vote on ramcius yet

Come back in December, when majority will matter

[Ramcius]

On what you base your guess?

[Ramcius]

bump

Not enjoying your permanent vacations?

[Ramcius]

I mean, there's nothing interesting for me to watch from you guys.

Sorry, but restless ghosts has no rights to complain in this thread

[Ramcius]

The relentless ghost has many rights to complain. I will go back to multicolor text. >:c

Good, come back at night

[Ramcius]

The relentless ghost has many rights to complain. I will go back to multicolor text. >:c

Good, come back at night

You are hands down, the most dedicated player in this game - bar none.

What about you? Giving pointless readlist for towncred and pointing finger right at the start of the day? Does your team got check on Salad and he's Sadist sk or something?

[Ramcius]

Team? What team or are you still incorrectly sr me?

Altruist mafia, what else team. You know, when actions and words doesn't align, you need to look deeper and your "attempt" to stop me from defending NM and your unwillingness to vote him till someone else hammered is something to spell scumbuddies.

Also, I still remember what we discussed in MD about readlists, so did you drastically changed your opinion lately?

[Ramcius]

Team? What team or are you still incorrectly sr me?

Altruist mafia, what else team. You know, when actions and words doesn't align, you need to look deeper and your "attempt" to stop me from defending NM and your unwillingness to vote him till someone else hammered is something to spell scumbuddies.

Also, I still remember what we discussed in MD about readlists, so did you drastically changed your opinion lately?

No why? and you’re still wrong, like you were in LNT.

I believe it, when I see it. In other words, I'll consider you town, when you do something that leaves no doubts about your alignment, yet all I get is "I'm not a scum lol" attitude, when I showed all my reasons to scumread you. At least show "I'm a town, goddamnint!", which is more common in town, while "I'm not a scum lol" is much more common for scum

[Ramcius]

You'll get your Salad flip, that's not even a question, but I'm not happy at all to have lock our lynch at the start of the year and let everyone else slack till D3. Hm, if Salad flips Altruist, I will reconsider my scumread

Can I get some of this AI reasoning? Cause I'm really blind and can't see

[Ramcius]

I never said you and Salad are on same team, so what busing?

You know too well that pushing me wouldn't work, there isn't enough reasons to do 180 on your read

Meta scumread based on 1 game isn't AI, TR on Salamance for Salad vote isn't AI, I will disregard all D1 as you claim you haven't played seriously then, so it can't be taken serious, no explanation on your readlist or how you come with only 3 scum, so that's not AI either. So tell me what is so inherently towny that I should townread you? What I'm missing?

[Ramcius]

We can cancel it, if you have no motivation to run it

[Ramcius]

I am a normal.

I don't think anyone, who joins this thread on their own volition can be called

normal

[Ramcius]

Ram, we've always known that about you.

Ofc, I'm a masochist, I thought that was common knowledge, considering I'm a part of this game

[Ramcius]

Is this game just going to stagnant for about the next 8 months or so?

Do you really want an answer or that's just rhetorical question?

[Ramcius]

Still alt-slipping, Nancy?

[Ramcius]

Hm, I'm a sorcerer's apprentice, dispatched to this god forgotten village's garrison to get some basic combat training and help with defence.

Spoiler:

	Base	Bonus
Strength	10	+1
Intelligence	11	+1
Charm	7	0
Arcana	13	+2
Grace	6	-1
Defense	12	0
	Current	Max
HP	6	6

Equipment:	Stats	Bonus
Fork	1d4	0

Items	Quantity	Atribute
10ft Rope	1
Tinder Box	1
Candle	1
Sleeping Bag	1
Pencil	1
Journal	1
Cup	1

Skills:

Spicy Touch:

Reaching out and touching an adjacent enemy with the spice left on your fingertips. If the attack hits, it does one d4+1 heat damage.

Casting Distance: 5 feet

Slow Heat:

A steady heat that slowly wears on your opponents. The enemy must make a strength-saving throw of 13 or higher. If the enemy fails the throw, they will take one point of heat damage and one additional point of heat damage after each of their turns. (At level 3, this increases to three points of heat damage and three additional points of heat damage after each of their turns.)

Casting Distance: 90 feet

Smokescreen:

A diversion tactic in which a cloud of smoke appears and temporarily blinds your opponents. Choose a point within the casting distance. All characters within a 10-foot radius of that point must make a strength-saving throw of 13 or higher. Those who fail the throw will have their movement ability reduced by half and be at a disadvantage on all rolls made that turn. Characters moving into the area must make a saving throw, and characters starting their turn in the area must make an additional saving throw. This spell lasts three turns or until a different smokescreen or smoke bomb is cast.

Casting Distance: 90 feet

I think I'm ready

[Ramcius]

im scum

discuss

I can't, but if you want I can talk to you about the lovely nation of Freshtovia and the beloved Queen Wendy.

You sound like some cult recruiter: "I can't help you, but have you ever considered of joining our amazing organisation?"

[Ramcius]

Nancy, your clones getting out of control again, did you forgot to lock their cage or something?

[Ramcius]

I guess my read on Menalque as ignorant town was wrong, he's just troll or opportunistic scum, so I don't mind his lynch today

[Ramcius]

New month, new reminder that ramcius is scum who needs to eat rope

Be back in april

I guess my read on Menalque as ignorant town was wrong, he's just troll or opportunistic scum, so I don't mind his lynch today

Mena replaced Irrelephant and his ISO was pretty damn townie. I think you’re both town wrongly sr each other. Salad is the obvious lynch, no freaking way that slot doesn’t flip scum. Any other flip is a possible mislynch.

Are you saying scum can't act townie?

At this point it's clear that Menalque don't give a shit about his "sr" on me, it's just a proddodge

Also, I did some thinking and it dawned on me that NM never claimed, but his post in twilight indicates that he was reading thread. So he and his team were in favor of his lynch. Only reason I can come up is that Salamance is scumbuddy. If NM was cleared, it would've been his head on the line

[Ramcius]

New month, new reminder that ramcius is scum who needs to eat rope

Be back in april

I guess my read on Menalque as ignorant town was wrong, he's just troll or opportunistic scum, so I don't mind his lynch today

Mena replaced Irrelephant and his ISO was pretty damn townie. I think you’re both town wrongly sr each other. Salad is the obvious lynch, no freaking way that slot doesn’t flip scum. Any other flip is a possible mislynch.

Are you saying scum can't act townie?

At this point it's clear that Menalque don't give a shit about his "sr" on me, it's just a proddodge

Also, I did some thinking and it dawned on me that NM never claimed, but his post in twilight indicates that he was reading thread. So he and his team were in favor of his lynch. Only reason I can come up is that Salamance is scumbuddy. If NM was cleared, it would've been his head on the line

I tr Salamence with very good reason. I can’t recall now why (I’ll have to reread my posts) but this isn’t his scumgame.

Sheeping you on Salad is not a very good reason, especially, when vote is of "whatever" kind

Also, bitmap is just seeking attention, you can ignore him

[Ramcius]

Bitmap, if you that bored, why you not joining Jingle's game?

[Ramcius]

how can we win this game?

Just tell me names of your scumbuddies, that'll help us win

[Ramcius]

Help me help myself ramcius

Don't join scum team next time

[Ramcius]

Hard scumsiding is the best though

Not the best for your win chances though

[Ramcius]

On this site it is

Shhh, don't tell this out loud or people might realize that their methods are ineffective and in return scum games for us will become harder in the future

[Ramcius]

Guys, Jingle's game started, where are you? Don't pretend like you have better things to do, especially considering we're under quarantine

[Ramcius]

Oh shit, this game is the quarantine?

Where are you going? Quarantine means we can't leave

[Ramcius]

Gamma, why you aren't creating your character or you bailing out?

[Ramcius]

My character for what again?

For Wendy's game that Jingle is running

[Ramcius]

In a QUARANTINE? FUCK no why isn’t that postponed for pizza’s sake?

Quarantine is another reason to play - we stuck at home anyway, so we have to kill time somehow

[Ramcius]

So quiet here, so here, something to laugh

[Ramcius]

gay

It's brave of you to come out like this, but we really didn't need to know it

[Ramcius]

Prodge

I believe some people are ripe for prods

[Ramcius]

Anybody remember who claimed miller?

I think it was Postie, who claimed miller vig or something like that

[Ramcius]

ya I'm Miller

though it's prolly not important because it's a Firebringer game so the existence a Miller likely means there's no cop

Why does he design a miller if it pretty much has no relevance?

Red herring, to make it harder for us to guess setup. Or there might actually be a cop, it can go both ways

[Ramcius]

Or am I lying. Who can say

I'm pretty sure you aren't lying, who could remember what roles is and what roles isn't in this game after 1,5 year

[Ramcius]

I have actually forgotten why but I’m trusting past me on this one

Well, your all reason for that is that I defended NM, but then again, you just mistaking my attempt to PL Salamance with NM's defence. Anyway, I have a question to you - why NM didn't fakeclaim? He was aware of his state of being lynch, he posted during twilight right after deadline

[Ramcius]

Hm, who wants to do me a favor and become backup a mod for vengeball game? Probably you wouldn't need to do anything, but rules are rules and I need one

[Ramcius]

I have actually forgotten why but I’m trusting past me on this one

Well, your all reason for that is that I defended NM, but then again, you just mistaking my attempt to PL Salamance with NM's defence.

Anyway, I have a question to you - why NM didn't fakeclaim? He was aware of his state of being lynch, he posted during twilight right after deadline

How many games have you played before with NM?

So, you trying to say we were scumbuddies and me defending NM was miscommunication between us?

[Ramcius]

Hm, who wants to do me a favor and become backup a mod for vengeball game?

Probably you wouldn't need to do anything

, but rules are rules and I need one

Probably? Make that an almost guarantee and I’ll maybe consider it.

Sorry, my scrying ball is in repair shop, so I can't predict future with 100% accuracy for time being

[Ramcius]

I have actually forgotten why but I’m trusting past me on this one

Well, your all reason for that is that I defended NM, but then again, you just mistaking my attempt to PL Salamance with NM's defence.

Anyway, I have a question to you - why NM didn't fakeclaim? He was aware of his state of being lynch, he posted during twilight right after deadline

How many games have you played before with NM?

So, you trying to say we were scumbuddies and me defending NM was miscommunication between us?

I’m saying that NM very rarely takes mafia seriously. He just doesn’t think like most players, irrespective of alignment.

What I'm trying to say is - does me "defending" my scumbuddy NM makes sense? If he was acting like usual in scum chat, wouldn't it make more sense for me to go along with the flow and just vote him? If anyone wonder, I have no qualms about lynching my scumbuddies, look Fallout game

[Ramcius]

Well, I’m not scumreading you but in general, I regard that sort of thing as NAI, since I’ve witnessed both wrong town as well as scum buddies do that sort of thing.

@Menalque, have you read my case on why Saladman/Frozen Angel is very likely scum and what are your thoughts about that?

I know you aren't, I was trying show to Menalque that his reasoning makes no sense, I think he's town and I'd much rather have him look for actual scum

How Salad/FA isn't NAI then? You base scumread on something most of players in this game did - lurking

[Ramcius]

Well, I’m not scumreading you but in general, I regard that sort of thing as NAI, since I’ve witnessed both wrong town as well as scum buddies do that sort of thing.

@Menalque, have you read my case on why Saladman/Frozen Angel is very likely scum and what are your thoughts about that?

I know you aren't, I was trying show to Menalque that his reasoning makes no sense, I think he's town and I'd much rather have him look for actual scum

How Salad/FA isn't NAI then? You base scumread on something most of players in this game did - lurking

No, my case on that slot isn’t based on lurking. Where are you getting that from?

I checked whooping 6 posts from FA and 7 from Salad, neither have posted anything relevant, like literally, so what's the case was again then?

[Ramcius]

Hm, how about more interesting topic, Nancy - what happened to your townread on me? You know, people usually defend their townreads, not question their defence like you did to mine attempt to prove that I can't be NM's scumbuddy

[Ramcius]

Hm, how about more interesting topic, Nancy - what happened to your townread on me? You know, people usually defend their townreads, not question their defence like you did to mine attempt to prove that I can't be NM's scumbuddy

What do you think I’ve questioned? My read on you hasn’t changed.

You tell me what you've questioned. And what exactly is your read on me? Cause you're awkwardly dodgy on this - you said you aren't scumreading me, now you say read haven't changed, but when people townread, they usually say it outright

[Ramcius]

Hm, how about more interesting topic, Nancy - what happened to your townread on me? You know, people usually defend their townreads, not question their defence like you did to mine attempt to prove that I can't be NM's scumbuddy

What do you think I’ve questioned? My read on you hasn’t changed.

You tell me what you've questioned. And what exactly is your read on me? Cause you're awkwardly dodgy on this - you said you aren't scumreading me, now you say read haven't changed, but when people townread, they usually say it outright

I don’t know,

YOU’RE

the one accusing me of being “dodgy” on my read of you, when I’m clearly telling you. it hasn’t changed.

Yes, you're dodgy, why it's so hard so say "my read on you is X", why you say "haven't changed"?

Also, you haven't answered, what were you questioning then?

I'd like to remind you your old scumhunting advice about sincerity, which is lacking in your posts here

[Ramcius]

That’s your INCORRECT opinion. Saying my read on you hasn’t changed or I’m not scumreading you, is no different than saying I tr you.

You’re the one who keeps questioning ME and I still don’t understand why because you keep asking me this question without actually explaining exactly wtf you’re referring to and no, I’m not a mindreader so if you want annswer to your question, it’s never going to happen until you explain to me what you’re asking. I can’t answer a question if I have no clue what it is, so make it clear or drop it, pretty much.

Fine, I'll ask differently - what was your problem with me trying to explain Menalque that I can't be NM's scumbuddy?

I question you, because your actions makes no sense, therefore you're likely to be scum

[Ramcius]

That’s your INCORRECT opinion. Saying my read on you hasn’t changed or I’m not scumreading you, is no different than saying I tr you.

You’re the one who keeps questioning ME and I still don’t understand why because you keep asking me this question without actually explaining exactly wtf you’re referring to and no, I’m not a mindreader so if you want annswer to your question, it’s never going to happen until you explain to me what you’re asking. I can’t answer a question if I have no clue what it is, so make it clear or drop it, pretty much.

Fine, I'll ask differently - what was your problem with me trying to explain Menalque that I can't be NM's scumbuddy?

I question you, because your actions makes no sense, therefore you're likely to be scum

Only because you’re misinterpreting my posts and WRONG!

When did I say I had a “problem” with that? Show me the actual quote.

My problem is why you decided to interfere in the first place? If you TR me, then idea of me being scumbuddy of NM shouldn't even occur to you and your stance should've been opposite - support my defence, so why you decided to question it?

As for bolded part, yes, it's a capital crime, but not for this, it's you straight up denouncing use of meta, while you used meta to support your push on FA. If you said it's bad, cause it's selfmeta, I would say fine, but you simply say my meta doesn't matter, because other people behaved differently, which literally undermines whole idea of the meta

[Ramcius]

I never implied that Mena should TR me or anything, I said that idea of me being on same team with NM is ridiculous and he shouldn't base his scumread on me with that. I might said that he should look elsewhere, but why would anyone would tell someone to dig evidence for their own scumread?

By meta I mean me pointing at Fallout game, my only scumgame here, and my point is that I have no problems with voting uncooperative scumbuddies as a scum, therefore me staying off NM wagon points towards fact that we aren't scumbuddies. Yet you said something about other people doing it anyway

Btw, I'm disappointed that you think so low of my scumgame - maybe I can imitate my town meta as a scum?

[Ramcius]

Okay I see your point now. I just ISO’d you and Fallout and while I wouldn’t say you were obviously scummy in that, you definitely seemed very different from LNT. Your play here reads very similar to LNT, in Fallout you somehow lack the sincerity you demonstrated in LNT that I’m seeing here.

In both this game and LNT, you seem genuinely intent on solving, where as in Fallout, it read to me that you utilized your posting as a way to distract others, because you we’re pretty much using a lot of words in your posts to say essentially nothing. Would you agree with this?

I didn't expect you to go full meta on me for that joke, tbh.

[Ramcius]

Okay I see your point now. I just ISO’d you and Fallout and while I wouldn’t say you were obviously scummy in that, you definitely seemed very different from LNT. Your play here reads very similar to LNT, in Fallout you somehow lack the sincerity you demonstrated in LNT that I’m seeing here.

In both this game and LNT, you seem genuinely intent on solving, where as in Fallout, it read to me that you utilized your posting as a way to distract others, because you we’re pretty much using a lot of words in your posts to say essentially nothing. Would you agree with this?

I didn't expect you to go full meta on me for that joke, tbh.

That’s because you don’t know me very well.

It's not that, I just thought you have better things to do in life than make this dive

[Ramcius]

Okay I see your point now. I just ISO’d you and Fallout and while I wouldn’t say you were obviously scummy in that, you definitely seemed very different from LNT. Your play here reads very similar to LNT, in Fallout you somehow lack the sincerity you demonstrated in LNT that I’m seeing here.

In both this game and LNT, you seem genuinely intent on solving, where as in Fallout, it read to me that you utilized your posting as a way to distract others, because you we’re pretty much using a lot of words in your posts to say essentially nothing. Would you agree with this?

I didn't expect you to go full meta on me for that joke, tbh.

That’s because you don’t know me very well.

It's not that, I just thought you have better things to do in life than make this dive

Like I said, you don’t know me very well. Sad but unfortunately true. :/

Well, start watching anime then, maybe, or some kdramas

[Ramcius]

“kdramas”?

I literally haven’t felt like myself since I found out about one of my best friends dying from their Facebook account. I keep hoping to snap out of it I guess but Corona isn’t helping.

I think I’m probably not doing enough to distract myself.

kdramas are korean shows, you'll know whey are dramas and not shows, if you see some

If you ever need to talk, just hit me on discord or PM

[Ramcius]

“kdramas”?

I literally haven’t felt like myself since I found out about one of my best friends dying from their Facebook account. I keep hoping to snap out of it I guess but Corona isn’t helping.

I think I’m probably not doing enough to distract myself.

kdramas are korean shows, you'll know whey are dramas and not shows, if you see some

If you ever need to talk, just hit me on discord or PM

Are they something like telenovellas and where can I find them?

And <3

Korean telenovellas might be too much for you Considering how much drama they add to normal shows for people to call them dramas

[Ramcius]

I miss NM, tbh

[Ramcius]

RIP, Ank

[Ramcius]

I miss NM, tbh

Sup

Why you're empty handed? Where's your jokes?

[Ramcius]

What washing powder does an idiot use?

How should I know? I'm not an idiot

[Ramcius]

Oxymoron

makes sense

[Ramcius]

I miss NM, tbh

Sup

Speak of the udders . . .

Did something happened between you two?

[Ramcius]

No, why would you think that? I was just making a joke.

It's not your style to make jokes like this

[Ramcius]

No, why would you think that? I was just making a joke.

It's not your style to make jokes like this

If you actually believe this, then you don’t know me as well as you think you do, because that’s 100% my “style” to anyone who actually does.

All I'm saying is that from my limited observation of your actions that joke was out of ordinary, but I'll alter my observation results accordingly, thanks for your input

[Ramcius]

No, why would you think that? I was just making a joke.

It's not your style to make jokes like this

If you actually believe this, then you don’t know me as well as you think you do, because that’s 100% my “style” to anyone who actually does.

All I'm saying is that from my limited observation of your actions that joke was out of ordinary, but I'll alter my observation results accordingly, thanks for your input

I was at a potluck and someone asked me what herb the bringer of a particular item they were sprinkling into the bowl. I replied with something along the lines of “beats me, it could be marijuana for all I know“. It was actually cilantro but I could only tell that once I tasted it. However, the shocked looks on people’s faces were priceless.

I wasn’t offended or anything btw, I just have a really off the wall sense of humour which has sometimes gotten me into trouble.

That's quite a difference from calling someone an udder

[Ramcius]

Hm, I just realised that you meant NMs avatar there...

[Ramcius]

Why do americans love bad puns so much?

[Ramcius]

I'm British

Are you sure about that?

[Ramcius]

the worst Feb 23, 10:00am 149 days 8 hours
Saladman27 Jan 30, 12:02pm 173 days 6 hours
Salamence20 Jan 09, 07:58am 194 days 10 hours
0verki11 Dec 14, 03:16am 220 days 15 hours

Gamma is almost up for a prod too

[Ramcius]

the worst Feb 23, 10:00am 149 days 8 hours
Saladman27 Jan 30, 12:02pm 173 days 6 hours
Salamence20 Jan 09, 07:58am 194 days 10 hours
0verki11 Dec 14, 03:16am 220 days 15 hours

Gamma is almost up for a prod too

@mod

Is Firebringer even paying attention to this game?

Is anyone paying attention to this game would be a better question

[Ramcius]

I wonder how long we must wait before we can legally abandon a game without mod showing up

[Ramcius]

I wouldn't mind, if it gets cancelled. This game isn't fulfilling it's purpose - people simply forget about it instead of coming back to post here how much they hate doing it

[Ramcius]

It's more like lurk it out for no real reason, memes should be funny

[Ramcius]

Well, we should make a poll to see how many people agree with you. I can post here once in a couple months, but I don't find it funny or entertaining

[Ramcius]

I never said I'm going to vote anyway

[Ramcius]

I am here and ready to remind you all that ramcius is, in fact, still scum

I would like to hear your explanation of why NM didn't claim and accepted execution? And before you say he wasn't aware, he did post right after time was up to point out that time for D1 was up, so he knew

[Ramcius]

Also, what about Salamence calling me town and we know that he visited me N1?

[Ramcius]

I am here and ready to remind you all that ramcius is, in fact, still scum

I would like to hear your explanation of why NM didn't claim and accepted execution? And before you say he wasn't aware, he did post right after time was up to point out that time for D1 was up, so he knew

Why does this matter again

Well, Menalque's case against me is that I was defending my scumbuddy NM, but if NM wanted to be executed, why would I defend him? Not even mentioning the fact that I started wagon on Salamence before NM wagon was a thing, so I wasn't trying to shift focus from NM, I was trying shift focus back to my initial target

[Ramcius]

Yeah that case is pretty freaking weak from Mena
Might not make him scum tho

Mena is town, lazy town, but still town

[Ramcius]

Let me ISO myself to remember what my reads were lmao

this is town.

@Ram, I told you Salamence was town.

Can you give me better explanation for NM's suicide than protecting Salamence? Cause Salamence was pretty much only other option for execution

Or an actual evidence to prove that Salamence was town?

[Ramcius]

I'd say everything is fluff, even a scum flip was a fluke as it was policy execution

[Ramcius]

So much time has passed now, I don’t remember much but I feel extremely confident that slot is town for whatever reasons I said back then. I think scum is in TGP/Karnage/Overkill11.

But this post by DGB looks like it’s coming from a town mindset.

Actually, Salamence being the counterwagon to scum is probably also town indicative, because it’s rare to have two competing scum wagons.

You are giving townreads too easy

As for counterwagon argument, you're really off with this one - if Salamence/DGB is town, then why NM chose death instead of claiming and putting that slot in spotlight? I mean he could claim anything and people would go back as there was no case, simply policy execution.

[Ramcius]

So much time has passed now, I don’t remember much but I feel extremely confident that slot is town for whatever reasons I said back then. I think scum is in TGP/Karnage/Overkill11.

But this post by DGB looks like it’s coming from a town mindset.

Actually, Salamence being the counterwagon to scum is probably also town indicative, because it’s rare to have two competing scum wagons.

You are giving townreads too easy

As for counterwagon argument, you're really off with this one - if Salamence/DGB is town, then why NM chose death instead of claiming and putting that slot in spotlight? I mean he could claim anything and people would go back as there was no case, simply policy execution.

No, I had very good reasons for thinking he’s town but I can’t recall them now. At any rate, I will be utterly shocked if TGP doesn’t flip scum.

He sheeped you on Salad and you said Salamence wouldn't sheep you like that as a scum.

Also, TGP being scum doesn't clear DGB in any way, they can be on different teams for all I know, I mean I have no reason to townread TGP, but neither that slot did anything for me to scumread it

[Ramcius]

In that Anime game I played with him with Shiro hydra, he tried to aggressively control that game not sheep. Scum!Salamence also wouldn’t sheep me here on a buddy, considering one’s already dead.

Should I point out that 1 game is not enough to know person's habbits? Also, they can be on different teams as this game is clearly a multiball after 4 deaths N1. On top of that, it was early on and placing vote like that on scumbuddy is how to play scum 101 to signal "we're not buddies" - scum vote each other all the time, if wagon isn't threatening

[Ramcius]

Is anyone actually playing this game?

You know, when best candidate for execution is a lurk slot that was replaced twice by now and still haven't done anything to determine their alignment and D1 execution was decided between 2 policy execution wagons, answer probably is a "yes"

[Ramcius]

Is anyone actually playing this game?

You know, when best candidate for execution is a lurk slot that was replaced twice by now and still haven't done anything to determine their alignment and D1 execution was decided between 2 policy execution wagons, answer probably is a "yes"

This game started Fri Dec 14, 2018?????

2018

I know, we have only 154 pages in almost 2 years, that should be a dead giveaway how little people post...

[Ramcius]

VOTE: TGP

See y'all D3

[Ramcius]

In this game, this is a speedwagon.

People just want blood

[Ramcius]

Best part of this wagon is how little convincing Nancy needed to let go of her meta case and just swap to PoE lurker slot - 1 sketchy NAI claim

[Ramcius]

What makes loud tracker so menacing to scum team that they should kill them ASAP?

[Ramcius]

Where are Menalque, Ramcius and TGP?

I just don't see any point to try to shift wagon to your slot or Nancy any more, maybe I'll try D3. Also, I decided to post less or just bare minimum in hopes this game will be cancelled due inactivity.

[Ramcius]

With 5 flipped PRs, 1 confirmed PR and 2 other PR claims, it's pretty obvious that this game is role madness, so what makes loud tracker most threatening role in this game currently?

[Ramcius]

Where are Menalque, Ramcius and TGP?

I just don't see any point to try to shift wagon to your slot or Nancy any more, maybe I'll try D3. Also, I decided to post less or just bare minimum in hopes this game will be cancelled due inactivity.

That will never happen. You opened this can of worms now lie in it.

If thread becomes more active, then sure, I'll take that, but I'm not putting efforts any more to keep it active, 2 years was enough for me