Or you know, they just kill him during intermission like every other dance gameIn post 18, Lady 5 wrote:I mean idk, probably the same way scum would pocket an IC in other games?In post 16, Gentleman 1 wrote:How is a werewolf/vampire/warlock (from now on will be referred to as a vamlolf) going to pocket an IC?
A warlock, a werewolf, and a vampire... [Game Over]
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You're right, based on this information they may decide to try to pair up and then kill the ic at nightIn post 127, Gentleman 9 wrote:the wide range of things to analyze is bad it gives scum direction to play-
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I ask Lady 8 to the dance
My reasoning is as follows:
-Having a sample of Lady 8's postings, I believe I'll be able to get a good read on her alignment if we are in a pt together. So far I like them in a nai way but believe that it is possible for them to be mafia.
-To that extent, I disagree with post 312 from Lady 7. I'm not townreading Lady 6 specifically right now. Lady 8 I feel hasn't revealed enough of her heart to be able to tell. I don't know how I feel about Lady 7 as a result of this.
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We're allowed to talk about it, lady 2 is mistaken about the nature of the rule.In post 342, Lady 7 wrote:That isn't allowed now?
I never saw the replace-out as it's since been deleted, thouh I can take a guess as to what happened. I don't think Gentleman 6 looks suspicious; lying about experience doesn't necessarily point to mafia, even if true. Also, the mod may know him from elsewhere and have personally extended an invitation.-
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Why?In post 349, Gentleman 3 wrote:Gentleman 1 locktown energy for going for his heart's desire.-
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Update: I think Lady 7 is townIn post 347, Gentleman 5 wrote:I don't know how I feel about Lady 7 as a result of this.-
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I was being sarcastic, I didn't mean to imply that mafia would pair with each other.In post 352, Gentleman 4 wrote:I don't think we should consider G6's final post as alignment indicative. Angleshooting tends to backfire in general.
I can see why mafia wouldn't pair with the IC, but why do you think they would pair up as opposed to pairing with town?In post 345, Gentleman 5 wrote:
You're right, based on this information they may decide to try to pair up and then kill the ic at nightIn post 127, Gentleman 9 wrote:the wide range of things to analyze is bad it gives scum direction to play
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Can you further explain why you think Gentleman 1 is town? Is it only because he asked Lady 7?In post 355, Gentleman 3 wrote:
The G1 & L7 pairing looks a lot townier than with L8. Especially L7's response to being asked makes it likely that they aren't scummates.In post 350, Gentleman 5 wrote:Why?-
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Are you implying something here?In post 354, Lady 6 wrote:the gentlemen do have some urgency to shoot their shots
there are only 8 ladies compared to 9 men-
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Can you point me to where Gentleman 1 implies he's asking Lady 7 to the dance because he's trying to read her? Or to why you thought that.In post 359, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Yes, instead of asking/accepting someone who was already willing, he asked someone who he's trying to read.In post 357, Gentleman 5 wrote:Is it only because he asked Lady 7?-
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I'll come out and say it: I'm not townreading Gent 1, I think his content so far is lacking when looked at in iso, and many of his posts are banter/joking around. I don't see any indication that Gent 1 has a reason like trying to read Lady 7 for the proposal, my guess was that he townreads lady 7 (or more nefarious reasons, if he's not town).
I pretty much don't agree with what Gent 3 is saying right now, and think he's attributing things to Gent 1 that aren't there. I think it's interesting that Gent 1's proposal was the first thing he talked about. His response in 355 is curious; I asked him about Gent 1 and he started talking about lady 7 being towny.-
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Well, I think he should explain what he was thinkingIn post 365, Lady 8 wrote:He never said why he picked her, although it might've been her reaction to him hinting he might pick me. Or maybe he was planning on picking her all along. I don't know! But I got over it
AgreeIn post 366, Lady 6 wrote:gent 1 has charisma and that seems to be the primary reason for town reading him so far-
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't townread lady 8 to a certain extent; I just think there is a capacity for her to be fooling us in there, moreso than what I feel coming from you, if that makes sense to you.In post 370, Lady 7 wrote:
I am trying to decide if he wants to pair up with the towniest person in the game because he thinks he needs "a bit more"In post 347, Gentleman 5 wrote:I ask Lady 8 to the dance
My reasoning is as follows:
-Having a sample of Lady 8's postings, I believe I'll be able to get a good read on her alignment if we are in a pt together. So far I like them in a nai way but believe that it is possible for them to be mafia.
-To that extent, I disagree with post 312 from Lady 7. I'm not townreading Lady 6 specifically right now. Lady 8 I feel hasn't revealed enough of her heart to be able to tell. I don't know how I feel about Lady 7 as a result of this.
-I intend to put in work this game.
Or if he is trying to look town while snagging the towniest person in the game.
My initial reaction would be the latter but the rest of his posts are alright so I am unsure right now.
This is also my personal preference; the avatar interested me and then the posting seems like someone I could get along with-
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I don't know, because only Lady 7 has weighed in with a read on youIn post 372, Lady 8 wrote:Pedit: I really wasn't getting the vibe I was the towniest ?!!?! If that were true I'd approach this dance proposal differently. But I was more getting the idea I was in the null range, and he wanted to be the hero that solves me.
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I think your reasoning makes sense, but I am not aligned with the mafia.In post 371, Lady 7 wrote: I just think L8.Ghost is a clear partner scum would want to pair up with.
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Who has?In post 378, Lady 8 wrote:The Gents have been townier thus far-
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Oh it's fine, It makes sense to me to want to wait before making game-altering choices.In post 384, Lady 7 wrote:Sorry if you think it's odd I'd post all these tin foils about you and call you town at the end.
I just don't like to make mistakes when I play mafia even if I end up making many.
I feel better about Lady 6 after seeing their last several posts.
I think Gent 1 is overrated
I think Gent 3 is saying stuff that isn't really substantiated by other stuff in thread
What you are saying about scum wanting to pair with L8 makes sense to me-
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Who is better than me among the Gents?In post 391, Gentleman 9 wrote:Creepy Lady 8 deserves someone better than caveman gent 5-
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What is wrong with my reasoning for proposal?In post 396, Gentleman 9 wrote:I don't think your reasoning for proposal makes a lot of sense,
It wasn't backtracking.In post 396, Gentleman 9 wrote:and it's seems youre backtracking after blue lady 7 called you out a bit
Think of it like this, I wanted to dance with Lady 8 for personal reasons, and I also feel that it would be a good pairing for gameplay reasons, those gameplay reasons being that I think I can get a good read on her.
When proposing to Lady 8, I led with the gameplay reasons, and didn't bring up the personal reasons. Lady 7 said she didn't fully buy it, so then I explained the personal reasons-
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In post 347, Gentleman 5 wrote:I ask Lady 8 to the dance
My reasoning is as follows:
-Having a sample of Lady 8's postings, I believe I'll be able to get a good read on her alignment if we are in a pt together. So far I like them in a nai way but believe that it is possible for them to be mafia.
-To that extent, I disagree with post 312 from Lady 7. I'm not townreading Lady 6 specifically right now. Lady 8 I feel hasn't revealed enough of her heart to be able to tell. I don't know how I feel about Lady 7 as a result of this.
-I intend to put in work this game.
Neither lady 7 nor lady 6 were good choices for me at the time under that reasoning, by my own wordsIn post 351, Gentleman 5 wrote:
Update: I think Lady 7 is townIn post 347, Gentleman 5 wrote:I don't know how I feel about Lady 7 as a result of this.
Note that while I want to sort someone, I prefer it to be someone who is null to null town, not somebody that I am already scumreading, or null scumreading-
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Selfish reasons mostly, as the game goes on I'm less likely to be a part of a pairing I'll enjoyIn post 405, Gentleman 9 wrote:if so then why are you proposing less than a day into the game rather than a bit more until your reads solidify?-
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Lady 7 seems more straightforward to me, yes.In post 408, Lady 8 wrote:I took his phrasing as "I think there's a slightly higher chance Lady 8 is fooling us than Lady 7". Or something like that.
I think you look townier as a result of your reaction to my proposal,.
What I was saying for you is that you had morecapacity to fool.
That means I believe that there is a chance that you are less straightforward than Lady 7, in that you have posts that other people see as good, and also have a lot of 'emotional banter' almost, with you talking about gent 1 and going 'noooo' etc
It's a long winded explanation but basically I think you could play this way as scum whereas I don't think Lady could play this way as scum-
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The only person who was townreading Lady 8 at the time was Lady 7 and partially myself in my heartIn post 411, Gentleman 9 wrote:if you have a big ego and you think you could scumhunt through PT you would ask someone not L8 to dance.-
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I'm interested in thisIn post 403, Gentleman 5 wrote:Gent 8, what was your reasoning for pairing with Lady 3?-
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You can have multiple offers out, yesIn post 415, Gentleman 1 wrote:I like Gentleman 5 even if he doesn't believe in me.
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Do you scumread anyone?In post 415, Gentleman 1 wrote:I like Gentleman 5 even if he doesn't believe in me.-
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To start with, I don't have a strong opinion of 1 sad, so I'm not considering her more or less than any other randomly chosen ladyIn post 419, Lady 7 wrote:@Gent 5
What is the difference between Lady 8, me, 6,seal, and 1.sad.
I simply sorted by post count, I am curious why you wanted to pair up with her in particular over anyone else given she is the most widely town read individual but you want to pair up for sorting based reasons?
Also do you have a nickname of sorts I could use?
6 seal: at the time I arrived in thread, having read her posts, I wasn't a fan. Posts like 203, 211, 302 read as tonally scummy to me. I think there was a notable shift in the way they posted after I showed up in thread that makes me like them more; maybe I'm biased because I agreed with her.
7 blue: The only thing that stuck out about you to me was your reads in 312, in which I thought it was too early for the read on 8 Ghost and disagreed with the read on 6 Seal. After my initial proposal, which was to 8 Ghost, I went back and looked at some of your posts more closely and you felt straightforward/town to me. If given the choice, I'd dance with you if 8 Ghost doesn't work out - though that doesn't align with my initial reasoning for choosing 8 Ghost and you may find my selection in partners to be scummy.
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You skipped over a lot of discussion to get to the part where somebody said something negative about you, then immediately wrote it offIn post 446, Lady 2 wrote:Can you explain in a sentence what seems scum motivated about my posts?-
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Explain Lady 4 townreadIn post 450, Lady 1 wrote:
You/meIn post 447, Gentleman 4 wrote:
I’m intrigued. Let’s discuss.In post 443, Lady 1 wrote:I already have my 3 pairings I want in end game can I get a gg
Lady 8/IC
Lady 4/Gent 5.
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I think it's fair, because Blue 7 was putting Lady 1 next to Ghost 8 and Blue 7 when talking to me and asking why I chose Ghost 8In post 427, Lady 4 wrote:
This is bad LAMISTIn post 423, Lady 1 wrote:Maybe I should take this a little bit more seriously. Also I don't think I've done anything that isn't hard to fake as a wolf so like, don't get the townreading on me either-
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I'm talking about 419, and yes it was, and that's what I believe prompted the post in 423In post 463, Lady 4 wrote:
Was that post specifically addressed to you?In post 460, Gentleman 5 wrote:
I think it's fair, because Blue 7 was putting Lady 1 next to Ghost 8 and Blue 7 when talking to me and asking why I chose Ghost 8In post 427, Lady 4 wrote:
This is bad LAMISTIn post 423, Lady 1 wrote:Maybe I should take this a little bit more seriously. Also I don't think I've done anything that isn't hard to fake as a wolf so like, don't get the townreading on me either-
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You guys can pickIn post 419, Lady 7 wrote:Also do you have a nickname of sorts I could use?-
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The way you were talking about mechanics/pairings felt bad to me. It wasn't a very developed read, that was and is my initial impressions on those posts. Bad feelings.In post 486, Lady 6 wrote:
G5 can you describe why these posts read tonally scummy to you? I'm not getting that part of your progression because I don't think I changed the way I was posting and my opinions stayed mostly the same.In post 441, Gentleman 5 wrote:6 seal: at the time I arrived in thread, having read her posts, I wasn't a fan. Posts like 203, 211, 302 read as tonally scummy to me. I think there was a notable shift in the way they posted after I showed up in thread that makes me like them more; maybe I'm biased because I agreed with her.
In fact the posts you quoted have a scum read on G1 and a town read on L8, both opinions you entered the game with-
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To me it seems like Ghosty 8 has already decided that they'd be pairing with me at this point.In post 401, Lady 8 wrote:I can probably look at Lady 7 objectively nowsince she's no longer my rival.
Post 477 tingles my suspicions; pairing with the IC in Ghosty 8's position would actually be bad if she were mafia, because the general consensus has shifted to think she is town.
The way she talks about me in 408 fuels my suspicion as well. If she is mafia, she's likely decided that she wants to accept my proposal, is what I think... I can see town her feeling 'possessive' I guess, with this post and 477.
@Blue 7 it's your initial reasoning but in reverse, Lady 8 would want to pair with me if they were, mafia, probably...
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Gentleman 9 pairing immediately and then grilling me for my reasons for wanting to pair with Ghosty 8 rubbed off on me the wrong way.
I get that he was sorting me, but still.
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Yes, this is a thing that happenedIn post 532, Gentleman 1 wrote:Actually, G3.Collar's posts so far aren't great. Explaining his locktown energy read on me by arguing G1/L7 is less likely to be scum than G1/L8 is really not answering the question. Also, I didn't say or suggest the reasoning in 359. Could be TMI?
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What are your thoughts on Me and GhostyIn post 547, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Lady 4 At this point, I am reading G1(Sans), G9, L2(Rosalina), L6(Seal), and L7(blue) as town. Everyone else I am still evaluating.
I can see Rosalina 2 as town-
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I just noticed that he did answer and I missed itIn post 418, Gentleman 9 wrote:In post 78, Gentleman 9 wrote:whats up with all the spec talk its like peak wifomIn post 79, Lady 3 wrote:idk I usually just ignore the setup tbh
its very clear our thoughts aligned we looked at each others in the eyes (through the mask) and fell in love.In post 80, Gentleman 9 wrote:is this where i ask you to dance
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It is my honorIn post 555, Lady 8 wrote:
ohh~!!!In post 501, Gentleman 5 wrote:I'd love to be paired with Ghosty 8.
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Not seeing it, especially with just this quote. It seems NAI to me.
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Gent 3 did what?In post 572, Lady 5 wrote:I see G3 has decided to join L3, RIP
Well I thought that them talking about Gent 9 and Lady 3 earlier and then more recently seemed like a town thought process. Looking over their iso that is all they've talked about, really, and now there's doubts as to whether Lady 3 is really town.In post 574, Lady 4 wrote:In post 547, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Lady 4 At this point, I am reading G1(Sans), G9, L2(Rosalina), L6(Seal), and L7(blue) as town. Everyone else I am still evaluating.
Can both of you talk about Rosalina 2 because that's my strongest SR rnIn post 548, Gentleman 5 wrote:
What are your thoughts on Me and GhostyIn post 547, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Lady 4 At this point, I am reading G1(Sans), G9, L2(Rosalina), L6(Seal), and L7(blue) as town. Everyone else I am still evaluating.
I can see Rosalina 2 as town-
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Who, me?In post 578, Lady 5 wrote:Aren’t you supposed to be propositioning me or something?
That's true, but then maybe they're scum and just didn't have a plan in mind and did whateverIn post 579, Gentleman 8 wrote:that's silly. the women in this game aren't the ones in danger of getting kicked out of my ball so why would they, even as scum, care about quickly accepting an offer?
I don't think that's true. People posted before I showed up, then they left, and I started posting. I'm talking with anyone who speaks.In post 581, Lady 5 wrote:It sort of feels like L7, L8, G1, G4, G5, L6 are freezing out the rest of the game and just talking among each other
idk if that means that there is a cluster of scum in there, but it does make the game highly demotivating and uninteresting from the perspective of someone who is outside that, and also I'm somewhat doubtful that scum is entirely outside that grouping even though I don't have strong reads on anyone inside it-
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Why?In post 593, Lady 5 wrote:hey gents, will accept whoever wants to proposition me next at this point
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I like the numbers to reply here. I'm not intentionally excluding anyone from conversation.In post 597, Lady 5 wrote:
1 you, but also the other gentlemen in generalIn post 594, Gentleman 5 wrote:
1Who, me?In post 578, Lady 5 wrote:Aren’t you supposed to be propositioning me or something?
That's true, but then maybe they're scum and just didn't have a plan in mind and did whateverIn post 579, Gentleman 8 wrote:that's silly. the women in this game aren't the ones in danger of getting kicked out of my ball so why would they, even as scum, care about quickly accepting an offer?
2I don't think that's true. People posted before I showed up, then they left, and I started posting. I'm talking with anyone who speaks.In post 581, Lady 5 wrote:It sort of feels like L7, L8, G1, G4, G5, L6 are freezing out the rest of the game and just talking among each other
idk if that means that there is a cluster of scum in there, but it does make the game highly demotivating and uninteresting from the perspective of someone who is outside that, and also I'm somewhat doubtful that scum is entirely outside that grouping even though I don't have strong reads on anyone inside it
2 it feels to me very much like that has been an in-group so far that has primarily been interested in speaking amongst itself. obviously, there were a lot of posts from when I first posted to when I came back, but when I was around as the day began I still felt that most of that group were not very interested in what I thought about anything or in engaging with me
my impression when I skimmed through until like p11 was that this group has mostly been talking with itself as a preference over the other slots in the game, particularly the quieter ones
Note that you don't get a pt until the end of the dance phase (after somebody is left out)In post 598, Lady 5 wrote:because I feel incredibly disengaged from the game, I'm not having fun, and I hope having a partner might help with that
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Alright, you seem to have missed that I've already been paired up. I think making a fake proposal here would be cruel of me. Gent 1 is also paired up.In post 598, Lady 5 wrote:because I feel incredibly disengaged from the game, I'm not having fun, and I hope having a partner might help with that-
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In post 625, Gentleman 7 wrote:I ask Lady 6 to the dance.
Definitely the cutest, most honorable and townie looking lady.
What made you choose Lady 6? She wasn't posting at the same time as you when you invited her.In post 666, Gentleman 7 wrote:I'm gonna start playing from this point on and not read back btw-
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You haven't done anything I'd describe as "quality"In post 695, Gentleman 2 wrote:
Quantity is not synonym to alignment. Quality is what matters.In post 676, Lady 4 wrote:
Exactly. Other gentlemen have been better.In post 673, Lady 2 wrote:And L4, why G2? He's barely done anything.
Your posting has barely been related to the game at hand
It wouldn't be random, remember that one gentleman must be left out at the end of the current phaseIn post 703, Lady 8 wrote:Main thing I'm wondering about it, does scum Gent 2 feel the need to randomly go after Gent 4? My first impression is it's like just some gut read he had. But I'll need him to explain more of course
In post 712, Gentleman 3 wrote:I suppose I should post my thoughts more intermittently as I'm catching up rather than simply dumping them all at once. I've set up a few of my own word replacement nicknames, so apologies if a nickname I use isn't the consensus nickname.
Gentleman 4 (Tennis / Soccer)'s intro struck me as fairly awkward and scummy, but later on I felt that his posting improved. Specifically, his introduction talking about his internet and lack of any gut reads felt like a forced attempt to fit in, but later his point in 144 I thought was a fairly decent observation.
Gentleman 1 (Sans)'s read in 131 was a minor one but one that I feel reflected well on him for making the read in the first place. As I said, minor, but the rest of his posts so far give me no reason to doubt a town lean on him.
Other assorted townreads on Lady 7, Lady 3, and Lady 6 (Seal).
Lady 8's 197 struck me as a scumpost like few posts ever tend to do. Along with 168 which I find tonally scummy, she's likely my top suspect for scum so far.
I think her posting looks better in places beyond that point. But yes there's room for suspicion, I don't regret my choice thoughIn post 713, Gentleman 3 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised to see people townreading both Lady 1 and Lady 8, much less call one of them "by a good margin the towniest Lady in the game". I can't say I agree.
Given my read on Lady 8 it pained me slightly to see Gentleman 5's introduction, but I think that he might lean closer to town than scum for me despite his partner and immediate pairing.-
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My take: Gentleman 7 has a good chance of being abrasive town, because the way they're acting isn't conductive to getting a dance partner and perhaps his team would be telling him to do otherwiseIn post 721, Gentleman 9 wrote:I think it's productive to discuss which of the gentlemen we want to leave behind at this point. I liked Sherlock 3s entrance and I've been town reading teenisg4. Gorilla boy g7 is my least town gentleman read at the moment.
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