Death Curse

[Noraa]

The whole scum team was weird around the Noraa wagon. They would just all the time be setting up these people or hitting people down for thinking Noraa was town, but they never voted her.

This is really, really obvious and Noraa still isn't engaging on it.

What do you want me to say lmfao?

If Noraa!scum is what you go back looking for, Noraa!scum will be what you find.

I'm tired of voicing my side of the story. If even an LLD pass u can make up some ridiculous story for, I can't do anything to change these opinions bc that pass alone proves I'm town.

[Noraa]

idk

I having a hard time deciding.

[Noraa]

*sigh*
I'll finish the ISOS later today.

..... im in chem rn :/

[Noraa]

Quick

list

of

reasons

Noraa

isnt

scum

The color will have to make up for my human emotions

-I don't fake a townslip as scum after faking one in the past three scum games I've had
-I don't have paranoia on shelly as scum. See two games where I was scum with shelly: Doggos and So many Bats. Both we bussed each other super hard and took up half the game in our 1v1
-scum team doesn't pass to LLD, Taylor, or Mush if Noraa!scum. LLD - would pass to me(I don't think its a stretch to say this was one of the biggest possibilities). Taylor and Mush - TR me
-I don't get very angry when tunneled by LLD as scum cuz i would know she's right
-I don't hesitate to join wagons on town as scum
-I don't provide readslists as scum
-I'm not easy to sway as scum. This depends. Town!me has two modes: extremely stubborn or extremely lost. Extremely lost is this game's Noraa mode

[Noraa]

NOOOOOOOOORAAAAAAAAAAA

Right. Ignore the muderkitty and his mean requests.

[Noraa]

Murder isnt willing to reassess which lacks townie paranoia is my opinion here. I've flip flopped back and forth multiple times and either Murder's doing it in his head or its not even happening.

[Noraa]

Do you think I could scroll you Noraa?

Depends on if Murder convinces you.

[Noraa]

I do think Fidget is right that I don't think the scum team expected this scenario to occur.
I don't think they're so far sited that they would lay that much bus ground work for Noraa and then...Just have her flip town. It would be crazy amounts of reverse psychology.

I thought about this and I actually realized something really interesting about the entire scum team. U interested in hearing this interesting thing?

[Noraa]

I am annoyed that one of you posted this way and is actually scum.

@Pedit: Sell me your drugs.

From part of my reread ... it basically just looks like all of the scum team took a copy of shelly's reads and reasoning and tweeked it a bit and then posted it straight in the main thread :/

[Noraa]

Noraa

picture this scenario.

It's your birthday and two gentleman have asked you out for a night on the town.

One is person of most fine repute who will sweep you off your feet and give you a night that you will remember forever.

The other is an evil serial killer who would like nothing more than to murder you dead dead.

You need to decide which one to go out with.

So pick already.

I pick the dead one by the name of pooky. We can go on a date around a fiery lake in hell.

Ok ok wait.

Chem just ended 1 minute ago.

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

VOTE: Fidget

yeah?

Ok hectic. post the end game post.

did we win yet

the post is taking a while. I take that as a signal from hectic that its a end game post

*Constantly refreshes*
my heart is beating so fast rn. awaiting this post is nervewrecking

Noraa locktown

my heart is beating sooo fast tooo

Oh my God

We actually lost

Pooky if it's you

Yeah but I actually think we lost

Went back to the moments right after people were hammered and murder looks p bad. Except bell didn't say anything so ig I can't judge that too much.

still reading~

[Noraa]

The Murdercat reaction to a Fidget green flip was really bad.
"Yeah but I think we lost" might just be scum tmi that pooky is town :/

continue the reading~

[Noraa]

Kill Pookie.

Fidget now gets to choose who takes the final shot.
Noraa is still number 1 for me.
I don't think I could ever shoot bell over Pooky but my gut says we are going to lose to bell scum

Not scum idiot.

Fidget 100% has to shoot in {me Pooky}
If I get it I'm hitting Pooky

If Pooky gets it I'll try to convince him I'm town, get shot, and we will lose.
From my pov if it's not Pooky we lost

This last post specifically is concerning. The moment fidget flipped, murder said that we had lost the game. This post says that if pooky is town we lose the game :/

[Noraa]

Those two posts by bell were what bell said after a long period of time of inactivity

Neither pings either way too much.

[Noraa]

Stop being dumb.

Pooky only made it this far because you're a sucker for being buddied.

If you say another mean thing to Noraa I'm going to scroll you. last warning

It's either this or she's scum.
can't be both.

Huh bell started sussing me right after a fidget green. The level of certainty in the tone of this post is very insane.

[Noraa]

Noraa, can you at least concede that Shellyc was fake bussing you.
Because she crumbed that very hard.

I don't agree. I think she had ridiculous pushes on me and twisted my meta. She was pulling some TSTBS and shading me all in one.

[Noraa]

Is it possible to speed scroll to prevent the mafia from being able to shoot?

yeah this is worrisome. cuz mafia not shooting earlier in the game kinda tells us that the mafia didn't know how the dayvig worked and bell doesn't seem to know :/

[Noraa]

you can't fool me murdercatto

i can see your soul. it was you all along :3

I actually think I'd have a better shot of winning this game as scum right now than I have at winning it as town

[Noraa]

Gosh they are both scumbuckets.

[Noraa]

Ok back to day 1 reading instead.

[Noraa]

Noraa you need to actually say stuff when you fake scumhunt you can't just quote things

[Noraa]

Bell are you town here

i've got my dayvig gun ready

lmfao. first page and I see

this

[Noraa]

No. Read her posts.
She was setting up multiple miseliminations off of your flip.
Multiple scum were shading you but failing to vote you which I can link to.
Shelly was accused by both me and Murdercat of trying to actually derail your wagon even though she was pushing at your crazy hard.
She then went off and starting throwing enormous amounts of shade at Me and Isis and dropping you for awhile before consistently going back to throw more shade at you.

She VERY CLEARLY loled at Mush for thinking you were obv town and that communication makes zero sense from the perspective of somebody that knew you were flipping town.

I agree that if you're town, she basically snowed you with fake Meta. She has done the same thing to me.
But that doesn't explain the blantant, coordinated set up by the scum team to look like they knew you were going to flip scum without pushing your wagon themselves.

This was a point I brought up a while ago. It was so that she could be like "Oh oops Noraa isnt scum? Lemme just take like 3 game days to fix my reads up a bit"

[Noraa]

Thats what I think was happening but idk. go ask her post game ig?

[Noraa]

If Murder is scum, scums distanced well from him. Barely any interaction and they planned to have Murder carry the entire team since a long time ago.

Btw I still stand by this post

[Noraa]

1011
bargaining. I feel this is NAI. Without elo meta from town Noraa.

lmfao. I said that because I didn't wanna get limmed on day 1/2 for the millionth time as a vanilla townie.

Literally when I roll vt, I always get limmed day 1/2 or get nk'ed super fast.
I never last as vanilla. dunno why but it always works out like that :/

[Noraa]

If Murder is scum, scums distanced well from him. Barely any interaction and they planned to have Murder carry the entire team since a long time ago.

Btw I still stand by this post

That theory is logically inconsistent with the LLD pass and the Taylor pass. It is also inconsistent with my constant desire to 1 for 1 with Pooky.

how is it inconsistent?

[Noraa]

how is it inconsistent?

LLD and Pooky are town and were town blocking me. It doesn't make sense for me to turn on them if there was a plan to get me to the end. I would have stuck with them instead. I would have passed to you in stead of Tayl0r to force a new final 2 that possibly includes me.

Imo its the people that TR you that you can SR and not worry too much about getting a SR in response :/

[Noraa]

Pooky do you still believe in scum!Bell?

That thought is p much disappearing completely for me.

If I had to make a decision rn, I'd scroll murder. We still have time but this is an update on my thought process.

[Noraa]

I wanna perform a blessing!!

*gets some holy water*
*dumps it on pooky*

:3

[Noraa]

I think I've made my stance p clear. Bell is attempting to solve and is a paranoid townie as shown by the flip flopped whereas murder is just a parrot repeating "Noraa is scum" over and over again.

Bell obvtowned very well. If this is his scum game, as I have said multiple times, he deserves to win. I think that's it for bell.

I'm paranoid of both in one way or another but I think Bell's recent posting is hitting all the right spots.

[Noraa]

Bell's last few pages are extremely townie. Like really really townie.

[Noraa]

I think Murder is trying to pull of a stubborn lylo townie look and furiously looking thru his pt for arguments shelly prolly already drafted out.

[Noraa]

*off

[Noraa]

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

[Noraa]

I don't even think they thought of this. I think they were just like huh lets go set some people up.

They set up a bunch of things this game.

They set up my death. LLD pass. Titus and DGB both pushing me hard etc.
They set up pooky's death. shelly's buddying. passing to Taylor.
They set up hopkirk's death. every one of the scums shaded hopkirk if I remember correctly?
I think they set up Adorable to some extent as well.

[Noraa]

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

And yet you are only now saying it.
I'm not frustrated. I think that there is more evidence that I am town than you and I am proving.
Stuff like this that shows your reads are fake is part of it

No it looks much weirder with a pooky green flip. I also didnt connect the dots until I reread cuz they were two separate posts. One said that we lost the game. The other said that if pooky was green we lost the game.

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

Christ finally.

What I would like to understand is why you had no tangible difference between your Murder and Bell reads up until now, and why you were generally fine with Bell being scrolled.

Bell looked pretty shitty before he started obvtowning imo.

I think Murder is trying to pull of a stubborn lylo townie look and furiously looking thru his pt for arguments shelly prolly already drafted out.

It really doesn't come off like that to me. Could you show me why it does?

If Murdercat is scum I'm sure he's working alone here.

If Murder is scum, scums distanced well from him. Barely any interaction and they planned to have Murder carry the entire team since a long time ago.

Btw I still stand by this post

What's your take on Murderkitty defending Fred?

I mean, no shit he's working alone if he's scum cuz if he's scum, he's the last one. I defended Fred at one point bc I thought his wagon looked super similar to mine but I was wrong.

This was a point I brought up a while ago. It was so that she could be like "Oh oops Noraa isnt scum? Lemme just take like 3 game days to fix my reads up a bit"

Maybe, but at least would you agree shelly would be much more likely to do that in an attempt to prop herself up and set up miselims? That's pretty much what I'd expect her to do. You were dead for certain at that point, she didn't really need to help the wagon. So what's her motivation? My guess would be to set up the next elim targets.

It's kinda unfair that you all can say I was dead for certain day 1 but won't let me say that LLD pass was almost certainly coming my way? Like you can't just use logic like this when it benefits u and not use it when it doesn't.

ok fine we are getting nowhere here.

where do you want the scroll to land tommorrow Bell?

that whole convo was not the least bit helpful. 50% bell flailing :/

when I read scum associatives, I always pick the weakest scum player to read because weak players are easier to figure out and they dont understand how to manage associatives. Shelly/Titus/DGB are all experienced enough to manage their associatives and lay down wifom with their partner. Fred is not - unless you think Fred is actually some deepthought scumlord who decided to purposefully lay down 0 associatives with MC in order to give his scumbuddy something to frame MC with at Lylo?

seeing that he died the moment he replaced in ..... he def isnt a deepthought scumlord.

[Noraa]

Ok. It was actually a reaction to realizing we are suddenly in a very bad spot. I'm kind of insulted you think I'm that bad despite the fact that as scum I would have played very well to get here. Can you explain why I am throwing the game pushing Noraa when I could have pushed bell and won?

Bell is obvtowning much more than me.....

if anything, scum def push me :/

[Noraa]

I don't think you're bad enough to think I actually wanted to scroll Bell.

u just called me bad....

[Noraa]

u just called me bad....

If you look closely it says I think you're good

*squints*
*still sees the same thing*
>:(

[Noraa]

what do I do to make ur brain not think I'm scum?

[Noraa]

But ur brain is being naughty

[Noraa]

and it makes me sad I'm even considered

[Noraa]

Noraa you are the scummiest player in this Eylo by far and maybe that's my fault for being a terrible reader (and if you are town it definitely is) but I don't feel like I've agreed with you on anything you've had to say about Bell/Murder thus far. And you don't really have a clear direction at all as to which one you think is scum. You finally decided on Murderkitty but only after Pooky stopped considering Bell.

Your best arguments are always when you're talking about yourself or more specifically about how dead scum interacted with you, in which case I agree you have a lot good there. I feel like you're just taking potshots at Murder/Bell otherwise.

[Noraa]

noraa if you're scum you should use the day-vig on bell to frame murderkato

pro-tip

*goes to ask hectic if he can make my role pm red and gimme the dayvig gun*

Spoiler:

hectic said no

[Noraa]

If it helps pooky, I tend to look p scummy in lylo

It was actually really hard going with my gut and sticking to my guns when Noraa and Echo were going at it and neither preferring the Shelly kick.

[Noraa]

I think you will be surprised by Noraa's ability to fake emotional tells after this game

nuh uh. the emotions were real as hell. that anger at LLD was real all the way down to my soul. that happiness at being IC was a small plant that sprouted from within my heart. those emotions were realer than anything.

[Noraa]

I think you will be surprised by Noraa's ability to fake emotional tells after this game

nuh uh. the emotions were real as hell. that anger at LLD was real all the way down to my soul. that happiness at being IC was a small plant that sprouted from within my heart. those emotions were realer than anything.

Are you saying you wouldn't have felt those as scum?

I don't really feel anything as scum except sadness and guilt :/

[Noraa]

But birthday, sick, bad circumstances etc.

uhhhhhhh
1) I can't change my birthday?
2) I was sick since like 3 days ago
3) what?

I see what ur saying but seriously wtf.

[Noraa]

that can't be true

you were happy when you won as scum Noraa.

first scum game. After so many bats, I started hating the alignment big time.

[Noraa]

Please stop reacting in a way that doesn't make any sense to me.

I am stating that you have good reasons for not being at your best here as town or scum.

read it wrong. thought u were being mean about it.

[Noraa]

Your promises that you were good in elo isn't really coming out here.

well, the thing is ... I'm not good at Elo in the way you seem to think. I generally find the last scum. convincing people its right is not my strong suit.

In ancient arthropods, I hammered the first scum and nailed the last scum on day 4 or something. But i had an extremely hard time convincing people it was right ... no one believed me :/

In random facts, I vigged the last scum so no convincing was needed there.

In Roses, I got lead astray. Shelly changed her meta up so I pushed the wrong person in lylo.

In trials, I was nk'ed.

ok nvm, I don't have a good record in Lylo.

I only have like 4 games in Lylo. 1 where I needed to convince people and I sucked ass.

[Noraa]

like after Titus/Taylor/Adorable. We probably should've take the 8 players, flipped direction upside down and gone from killing the most townie down and we would've won a while ago

Haha, well, hindsight and all that.

well, the thing is ... I'm not good at Elo in the way you seem to think. I generally find the last scum. convincing people its right is not my strong suit.

I have never been under the impression you have a clue which one of them it is

its murder.

[Noraa]

Noraa's reads so far from my catch up are like child scribbles compared to the wall post she made in that other game and linked here.
I don't know why she linked it if there would be so much dissonance, there is a clean comparison and...

mrgh.

Gloria asked for where I had made walls as town elsewhere. That was where. But that game I was a vigilante that shot two prs so ..... clearly my strategy that game didn't work :/

[Noraa]

yes i know which is why it makes sense for it to be Bell.

What did all those scum die for if not to get him to the promised land?

Don't think so. Bell is too towny to be scum. Seriously too towny.

It's just murder.

It's that simple.

[Noraa]

its murder.

Why didn't you know that at the start of the day if you had Pooky above him in your reads? You advocated for Bell when Pooky did and then after Murder accused you of following the flow you just started accusing them both indiscriminately.

Noraa>Bell>

Pooky

>Murder

nah I haven't truly TRed Bell much this game. Bell only appears in my top few because if I don't put him there, everyone whines.

I never paid too much attention to Bell and haven't noticed the obvtowning until recently. If that's what everyone saw before, I was blind.

But no Bell was never right under me in my rankings.

[Noraa]

So you decided to have more generic reads this game?

I mean idk if my reads are different but ig my play style does change over time. I had like 9 ongoing games when I first signed up for this game....
I've been in a lot of games since Random Facts.

I just counted. 15 games since Random Facts(some of the 15 are ongoing but still you get my point)

When this game first started, Random Facts came to a closing and it ended like idk sometime day 1.

[Noraa]

We put Noraa at the top, did we not..?

There was that whole section where Murder and I had a full-blown panic attack that you were going to replace Bell as #2 in the townblock which pretty much confirmed that was the case.

Noraa got to #1 in spite of all the scum trying to kill her though.

After D1's town-led wagon on her, only one scum attacked her at a time and they never actually got anyone to help them, though.

Shelly and Zdenek attacked her when she was vulnerable, tried to take credit, and set up possible partners in UNOwen/Bell/someone else after a red flip. Titus as well. Lapsa voted her early.. but decided she wasn't worthy of being in his top 5 end of day.

After we decided she was town, Titus stopped. Fred hard tunneled her until he died. Shelly too. Then DGB. Like clockwork actually.

I've already said my spicy take on the scum team. I think they all just took shelly's reads and reasoning, tweaked them a bit, and posted them

[Noraa]

I very much hate that I have to depart on my journey to chem hw land rn. If pooky scrolls me, I'll feel like its my fault that town loses. I'm going to request that

Hectic extend deadline by 2 hours or something

[Noraa]

it can't take that long to do chem homework.

Im got to get going but I can break down my next few hours of hw for u if u insist.
I have like 20 textbook problems. No way that takes < 1 hour.
I have an entire textbook chapter(idk like 50 pages of tiny text) to read and take notes on. Depends on how fast I do it. It might go past 2 hours if I'm slow.
With all that done tonight, tomorrow morning, I still have an hour of violin
Tomorrow morning, I'll be here.

[Noraa]

Grats Murder. I see you have convinced pooky. You played a good scum game. I'll forever be paranoid. If it's bell, Imma consider quitting ms.

It wasn't me, pooky but if ur heart is set, that's that.

[Noraa]

I am far too tired to argue this game back my way. Whichever of u two is town really didn't believe me. Also Fidget.

[Noraa]

She would know who the bad guy is.

I'm gonna go read her ISO again.

Isis TRed me after a while I remember

Men I had fun even if you shoot me Pooky, I mean that

The emotions are part of the fun

never seen AtE from murder before.

NORAAAAAAAA

Yeah Isis asked me a while back and I replied.

[Noraa]

...did you just say people who hammer you accrue towncred?

I think I was getting a few things mixed up when I said that.
I was thinking if anyone accidentally hammers, confscum.
I was also thinking anyone that doesn't know my meta that doesn't jump on me is trying to get towncred.

mixed those together and we got ourselves a "forced townslip" and a "forced scumslip" now eh?
I sure am good at slipping. where's LLD and her confident SR at?

[Noraa]

It means that only people that know my meta should've not jumped on me. Anyone that didn't know me should've thought my day 1 play was scummy and jumped on. Anyone that fits that criteria that doesn't is trying to get towncred over a green flip from me.

[Noraa]

^that's what the sentence fidget didn't understand meant.

[Noraa]

Its not me....
Pookster why didnt u just trust ur heart?

[Noraa]

But if u pass to me, its my fault that we all lost

[Noraa]

You know deep down that scum!me has no emotions.

Gloria told you millions of times.

Mush told you so many times.

Isis didn't think I was scum before she left.

[Noraa]

:/
hang in there noraa

[Noraa]

you know that's not true. mush wanted me in endgame because she thought I could get everyone's trust but I couldn't and that's why we will lose.

[Noraa]

Its never the decision makers fault. It's what caused the decision.

[Noraa]

Nuh uh. ur scum and you know it.

Great play. I didn't think pooky would get convinced just like that but I don't have the ability to change his mind once its set.

We're losing this game together, pooky and that's the only good thing about all of this

[Noraa]

Pooky, have you ever wondered why I lived this long after being the biggest wagon on day 1?

I wasn't meant to live this long. Scum set me up multiple times along the way but then they realized this would happen. Back in the rule of queen mush, there was a plan to make sure I was in last 2. Right after that every single living scum pushed me like a madman.

why? for associations. because no matter what, I am a weak link in the town block. what if murder wasn't TRed as much as me at the time? he wasn't the day 1 flash wagon that had a 1v1 with almost every single scum.

No matter what happens, my associations with the scum team look garbo. I don't know what shelly was thinking when she set up an entire house of cards to bring me down but I do know that they figured out I was going to be the reason town lost the moment mush suggested the last two have me.

[Noraa]

Let's say Noraa and everyone else agrees to follow the POE. Scum can no longer influence the outcome. No matter what, the SAME slots will fall, in the same order

[Noraa]

Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

So what do you think is wrong? You disagree with the {MC, Bell, Noraa, MUSH} townblock?

Your POE is a dumpster fire of lunacy and you're paying attention to Gloria's parcheesi level analysis.

So what do you think is wrong? You disagree with the {MC, Bell, Noraa, MUSH} townblock?

Bell is townbloc. MUSH is a ninny. Noraa is scum. Who is MC?

Noraa isn’t scum.

ur indirectly suggesting to mush to not kill Titus today. Is there a difference between you scrolling Titus and mush scrolling Titus?

Nora said it best.

What part of "this slot is to me the scummiest in the game and you guys are probably being taken in by a high school level psychology game" is passing folks by here? If DGB gets townread at this point, with town already starting to fall apart, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY FLIP RED IN THE END, town's still broken.

This is not true and dumb

Have some quotes from that day.

[Noraa]

I'm not sure scum had a lot of agency.

Half the scum team like repped out on day 1 or something and literally every single scum just took shelly's reads and tweaked them a bit.

It seems like the entire scum team was "bussing me" but that was not what was happening. They all fucking knew I was town and wanted to get an almost completely town driven mislim.

After it lost steam, they found a good place to park their votes/SRs and that literally sums up all of the ridiculously stupid looking pushes on me.

Every single damn scum called me scum along with a bunch of other buddies. If this isnt me getting set up, what tf is it?

[Noraa]

I'm not sure scum had a lot of agency.

Half the scum team like repped out on day 1 or something and literally every single scum just took shelly's reads and tweaked them a bit.

It seems like the entire scum team was "bussing me" but that was not what was happening. They all fucking knew I was town and wanted to get an almost completely town driven mislim.

After it lost steam, they found a good place to park their votes/SRs and that literally sums up all of the ridiculously stupid looking pushes on me.

Every single damn scum called me scum along with a bunch of other buddies. If this isnt me getting set up, what tf is it?

[Noraa]

Every single scum calling me scum is more scummy than murder's zero interaction with basically all of the scum team?

seriously WTF.

[Noraa]

I'm going to all this effort because if you end up with the scroll next dayphase, you need to consider who you hit. It's the difference between a Day 4 town-win and scum potentially re-entering the townbloc. If /everyone in town/ agrees on a POE, scum WIFOM stops working, period. It doesn't matter who gets the scroll, the game will solve itself or it won't and scum has no more bearing on the outcome except for /who/ is doing the cursing. This is ideal. It means that town can reframe if they're missing shots and identify scum in the townbloc WITHOUT SCUM INFLUENCING THOSE DECISIONS, because there is no chance of scum fake-clearing a buddy (like seems to have nearly worked for Adorable).

[Noraa]

ok but why would every single scum decide to do that to a townie? it doesn't make a lot of sense - they could've just hammered you on D1 and let you scroll LLD.

you really think I would've scrolled LLD lol?

Too many things that I did on day 1 were desperate attempts to survive. I had died in like 4 town games the week this game started and I wanted to live

Saying I'm better in limlo
Saying I'm gonna scroll LLD
Agreeing with almost all of consensus

[Noraa]

I wouldn't have and I'm sure the scum team isnt so dumb that they can't see I'm spewing bullshit to stay alive.

[Noraa]

Gloria hit the most important point all game. My emotional range and my scum meta doesn't fit with my play this game.

I don't go to such extremes and fuck up my scum meta like this.

It's not like anyone here hasn't played with shelly before. She does insane things that never make sense no matter how you think about it.

[Noraa]

It's stupid cuz I can already imagine shelly had a post in the pt like "Yo Murder. Push Noraa in limlo. Use posts blah blah and blah against her. U got this! Now peace while I just go sac myself."

[Noraa]

Im gonna be even more pissed if she didn't cuz being set up feels better than losing because they won on accident.

[Noraa]

God this is just a deja vu of Chara's Folly.
Pooky is me
I am morning
Murder is worstie
Bell is Lav

What a game.
3 lost large themes. I sure am a god of some kind.

[Noraa]

conclusion: all large themes are scum sided cuz this'll be the third large theme I lose as town.

[Noraa]

Really should have meta'd Murdercat, but no real time for that.

No ones done much ISOing of murder. All the focus has been on me. Lowkey stupid.

[Noraa]

This does feel like Deja vu since you've posted like this as scum before but at a much lower focus. you spent a lot more time aTeing than solving though.
I'm fairly sure that is a universal scum tell.

you've never played with town or scum me before and I've never been anything other than conftown in limlo before.

[Noraa]

The entire ISO had a lot of reasons why Murder is scum. Fidget just thinks my scummy behavior is > than that.

I mean fair but I always look scummy in limlo and if any of you are gonna bring up meta at all, you should know that :/

[Noraa]

Perhaps I need to say its more like
Everyone : isos murder looking for towntells. Then isos Noraa looking for scumtells.
Everyone : Noraa is scum

[Noraa]

Fred happens to be the most inexperience and worst scum out of them all also.....

Unless ur telling me all of the scums sucked ass except Fred....

[Noraa]

The entire case on me is basically just that the scums set everything up around me being scum. Except if they all knew their buddy was gonna die, wouldn't they set up all this shit and be on her wagon for double the towncred?

It looks really weird if u say someone is confscum but then refuse to join their wagon eh?

Fmpov it was scum seeing a potential 100% town driven mislim where they could keep their hands clean and watch town wreck itself but they also wanted to push it along and through shading me and preflip analysis, they almost pushed my wagon over with only 1 scum on wagon. Then again I remember Fred, Vaultdweller, Lapsa, and Zdeneck were all lurkers so it doesn't phase me that they just copy pasted Shellys reads.

Afterwards, they realized they couldn't save Fred, wanted a S -> T -> T so they planned a Fred -> LLD -> Noraa. It failed. They continue to push me bc its an easy wagon to sit on.

[Noraa]

But even then, I can think of two reasons to hit LLD: A.) She was the towniest player and had to die at some point and B.) All least two other townbloc members (Bell, Mushy) would have shot shelly for sure, with Murder as a "maybe".

LLD almost certainly went to me. It was legitimately 100% me or Theta. The only reason why LLD didn't shoot me was because all of town was super against it.

[Noraa]

Plus I remember everyone thought Shellys interactions with Pooky had high scum equity.

Why are we even trying to understand what shelly was trying to do at all?

It's literally just layers upon layers of pure fucking wifom.

[Noraa]

LLD almost certainly went to me.

It is possible this actually was the plan, to try to get some town cred for Shelly, Titus, and Goofball who suddenly were taking a lot of heat for sussing Noraa. Which would then make LLD not hitting Noraa the funniest thing to happen in a game I've been in since Pooky shooting his own traitor

At the time I was more widely TRed than shelly if I remember correctly so like ..... no

[Noraa]

Why are we even trying to understand what shelly was trying to do at all?

It's literally just layers upon layers of pure fucking wifom.

You seemed ok with it when it was being used against me

none of the scum team talked to u. That isn't something that is a lie or can be interpreted many ways?

Y'all say they bussed me but that's merely how u choose to see it. There are many other ways to see it and I don't see it as bussing cuz my role pm is green and scums only bus red ones. Idk why they played like that day 1 but ig we'll have to ask postgame for an explanation.

[Noraa]

Was it better than scrolling Bell or Mush? YES.

no?

[Noraa]

So in other words, it was less likely that LLD would shoot you, as compared to Murder/Mush/Bell shooting shelly?

Yeah.
LLD had expressed only literally 3 SRs in all her time.
Theta, Me, Hoppy, and someone else can't remember who.
Anyways two of her SRs had died.
Her Sr on Theta was never stronger than mine. Half her ISO is directed at me. I don't think anyone can argue that it didn't 100% look like she was gunna shoot me immediately.

[Noraa]

No. More than half her iso is about me. I don't even think that's an exaggeration.

[Noraa]

Ties into the whole distancing thing they've got going with you really nicely.

PFFT. distancing? They distanced from Murder way more than me. Every post they made basically just makes me look like a partner.

All signs point to me being scum from all of the dead scums. That doesn't seem alarming? Literally the amount of interaction with me is seriously over the top if I'm a partner and they are all going insane.

I am not the partner. It's 90% Murder. 10% Bell.

[Noraa]

Bell and Fidget we're about to lose. buckle up and prepare for a town loss. I've basically accepted it at this point.

LLD pass is extremely strong evidence that I am town.

Considering a Noraa/Shelly/DGB/Titus/Fred scum team, I would be the most TRed at the time of the LLD pass. Almost 80% of LLD's ISO is talking about how scummy I am. LLD took a huge break from the game but each time she dropped by, she reiterated her read on me. In that scenario, scum team really just passes to basically the only person there that would pass to me to save shelly who is universally SRed?

Seriously?

[Noraa]

Since no one cares about this hella strong reason I'm town and why I'm even an IC to begin with, we will lose.

That is the core of why I am town and no one believes it any longer.

There is no more to say if that is the case.

[Noraa]

universally SRed

This is a huge stretch, I think even Bell had backed off around Fred flip

no it's not. All of u guys were like LLD is best pass because everyone else passes to shelly. U cant back up and change that argument just like this.

[Noraa]

Everyone here that is town is confbiasing so hard its not even funny.

[Noraa]

Yeah....
I can't work with a town that is confbiasing this hard.
Y'all are assuming I'm scum and then looking for reasons.

[Noraa]

Requesting that deadline be extended

I have chem class rn and I want a chance to fix this.

[Noraa]

LMFAO. I come back on a five minute break and I see this:

Bell was sniped out of nowhere! He was... Spoiler: Town New deadline: (expired on 2020-11-22 21:07:09)

And then this:

It is also possible it was a fake town slip and she would come back and say "I would have just done it I wouldn't have needed to ask as town"
It's also possible it was for the lols

But mostly I think she just sees that she is very close to getting the scroll and needed to do something to buy more time and shake things up.

Wow. Murder really isn't afraid of anything. Read the above post like ten times. It's a full on scum slip.

NO. I WILL NOT ACCEPT DEFEAT. Murder is scum. This is so ridiculous I'm laughing.

[Noraa]

Pooky ur gonna go sit in the corner and wait for your queen to prove to you she isn't a traitor. After chem.

[Noraa]

I am fucking tired of seeing scum pts say "sorry Noraa you were good fucking limbait/Noraa must feel so bullied rn/synonyms of this bullshit*

Pooky don't vote me. Murder is that last scum and I will dig up all of the dirt on him in .... 4 ish hours. Plus he scum slipped. If he was town, he'd know I was scum but he uses the word "possibly" and shit like that.

Like I know he is scum and he knows I am town but he scum slipped with that uncertain post.

[Noraa]

I am fucking tired of seeing scum pts say "sorry Noraa you were good fucking limbait/Noraa must feel so bullied rn/synonyms of this bullshit*

um what universe are we in? you do understand this is the last day of a nearly 400 page game where 4 scum died trying to kill you right? In what world is that "easy limbait Noraa?"

You are like the equivalent of the Kursk Salient right now.

Noriverse

[Noraa]

Long chem class

shhhh. I was busy working on my GTKAS thread.

[Noraa]

i still can't believe she pulled a gun out and shot bell in the face to get her deadline extension

thats such a sick move lol

you will be even more shocked when you find out murder figured he could win even in a 1v1 so he shot bell cuz that is exactly what happened here :/

[Noraa]

Then scroll me, pooky. It wasn't me and will never be me.

But I can tell you don't want to hear a case on murder anyways.

Scroll me, Pooky.

Murder will win even tho he pulled a dangerous gambit at the end. If everyone believes him tho, who am I to say anything?

surviving day 1 was already my luck. my luck didn't go so far to guarantee a town win.

I think everyone here except murder and I will be very shocked at murder's incoming red flip.

Shoot me pooky. Im ready for this loss.

[Noraa]

Deep down ur scared I'll flip town. It's ok pooky. Poison ur brain so much that u stop worrying. This game was meant to have this ending from the very beginning. Everything is meant to be.

I will not be mad. Nor blame you.

If it helps, I can just game throw and scum claim so dead thread doesn't only yell at you.

[Noraa]

I claim scum.

There.
Pooky scroll me.

[Noraa]

There is a case. but if I spend 2 hours writing it and everyone ignores, was there a point?

[Noraa]

everyone is dead set I'm scum. I tryharded for hours to get people to stop calling me confscum on day 1. I don't have it in me to spend any more full on hours here. I shouldn't have tryharded on day 1 bc if I had died, this wouldn't happen at all but its too late and I'm not going to change this tide.

[Noraa]

I dont care if I'm AtE'ing the fuck out of this game. This is what I feel and I'm tired.

[Noraa]

I literally scum claimed to make it easier on pooky. ok fidget?
leave me alone.
I'm waiting for pooky to scroll me.
any minute now I can finally be out of this hellhole of another day 1.

[Noraa]

AtE doesn't ever work on a scum this close to victory.

[Noraa]

I'm willing to let Murder, Titus, Shelly, DGB, and Fred win this game.

Gloria will be mad but she'll understand how I felt.

I scum claimed to make everything easier. Pooky the scrolls in ur hands. One little tap and I can hold it.

[Noraa]

murdercat wouldnt cause me soul agony to win a stupid mafia game. i believe in murder atto

good. you'll never trust him again lol.

[Noraa]

murdercat wouldnt cause me soul agony to win a stupid mafia game. i believe in murder atto

I think you can tell this isn't town losing the game Noraa. This is calculated trying to convince you Noraa. Town Noraa never scum claims like that

u hear this? yes this is definitely what's happening. scroll me up.

im p sick of this.

[Noraa]

If Pooky cared about what I had to say, he would've agreed it was a scum slip.

I don't waste my effort when there's no hope. Stuff I'm listening to taught me this.

You can claim a pr. Put your whole heart into trying to make town win but get limmed anyways.

[Noraa]

That's how the mafia world is and I've come to terms with it. My only hope now is that this AtE manages to touch pookys heart. but otherwise, I'm buckled in for a loss.

[Noraa]

i am broken in ways you dont understand

you don't understand how it feels going from day 1 me to current. I don't think anyone does.

[Noraa]

I wanted to dead serious scum claim but I didn't have the heart to do it bc I'd feel really bad post game for the people that didn't deserve to lose.

Sometimes I wish I'd just role SK every single game. That'd be so nice. I could do anything and if I died, I'd just be like "eh I deserved it" but I can't ever bring myself to think other people deserve it.

~conflicted thoughts~

[Noraa]

if anyones curious why I suddenly gave up on this game, its because I just died in another game. Day 1 lim are always fun. They are like lemons. Painful but fun

way to call me a baby >:(

[Noraa]

Fine. I am scum. Pooky scroll me.

It's been a journey. I will accept that I cannot win this game. Nothing is fair. Getting this red pm wasn't fair.

End my misery pooky.

This game wasn't meant to be my first won large theme game.

ever since day 1 it wasn't meant to be.

I want to win for my partners but I am tired. Really tired. This game killed half my soul because I wanted to win but hated that anyone trusted me. I told hectic it killed half my soul. He can testify.

Im tired. Pooky. End my misery.

This game has been miserable for me. I hated every minute. Please. Just scroll me.

I don't want another minute of it.

Please.

[Noraa]

Thank you.

[Noraa]

Im crying no joke. I hated this game. thank you pooky

[Noraa]

why was this game so painful. I hated it. It hurt. It burned. I wanted so badly to be town. It hurt so bad.

[Noraa]

This is the first mafia game that I hated to this extent and the first that made me cry. It's incredible how painful this was.

[Noraa]

I hate this alignment with a burning passion. My soul hurts every time I see a red pm.

[Noraa]

Im sorry shelly. I always let you down. You always sac urself and push me forward but I always make us lose. Im sorry shelly.

[Noraa]

Gloria, Mush, you don't know how bad I wanted to be town because of u. I wanted so badly to not be lying. I wanted so badly to not have to fool you guys

[Noraa]

Shelly was what gave you away at the end. she was too transparent in the way she was pushing you on D1.

no its not shelly's fault. I dug myself a grave day 1. She did what was reasonable. she just didn't expect I could revive myself.

I wholeheartedly wish I died day 1.

I didn't need this month of pain in my life.

Every moment was so painful. When I became conftown, I felt so much sadness that anyone believed me even the tiniest bit but I had to force myself to think what town!me would say. What town!me could do.

I wanted to be carefree town!me that could run around with zero reads and not give a shit what anyone thought but I had to put on so many fake personas to get myself anywhere near limlo.

[Noraa]

I suffered so much tho, pooky.

If I were town, I would've died day 1. Carefree Noraa never lasts long unless she's a pr.

I hate that I am always the last scum but I always lose for my team. why?

[Noraa]

I am policy eliming you in every game from now on by the way

bitch!

[Noraa]

I am policy eliming you in every game from now on by the way

bitch!

btw this post was a joke......dont take it seriously

[Noraa]

Noraa we can hydra some time, if we are town you can post and if we are scum I'll post

you don't wanna hydra with me. my hydras ..... generally die a day 1 elim bc of me.

[Noraa]

my scum game is 20x better than my town game but I hate it with a burning passion.

I have a long ways to go.

[Noraa]

doesn't seem like anyone on site knows how to read me.

[Noraa]

plenty of people have played games with me as both alignments. I currently don't believe anyone can correctly read me. Half the time I'm elimmed its for "meta reasons"
absolute bullshit if you ask me cuz if its wrong, its not my meta

[Noraa]

when you play with people who have been doing it for years

it's funny. its always the more experienced people that TR scum!me and SR town!me. it's wild.

[Noraa]

doesn't seem like anyone on site knows how to read me.

I think I read you well in our 3 games together, I gave you a pass this game for emotional tells which will never happen again

eh. u were on my wagon in haunted village right?
u were on my wagon in stuff I'm listening to for the majority of day 1 eh?
u TRed me for 90% of this game.
I defo don't think u can read me atm :/

[Noraa]

that heart beating fast post was like a work of art tbh

it was something I thought up on the fly. My heart can beat really fast during periods of time like this waiting for mod to post when I am town. I remembered that and posted it.

My scum game is 99% me perfecting my town game and mimicking crucial town tells.

[Noraa]

plenty of people have played games with me as both alignments. I currently don't believe anyone can correctly read me. Half the time I'm elimmed its for "meta reasons"
absolute bullshit if you ask me cuz if its wrong, its not my meta

Now I'm afraid of your scum range, it's insane.

haha. I don't think I'll ever high effort a scum game like this again. too painful. I'd rather just die day 1 in all of them.

[Noraa]

you are gifted in ways you dont understand

I am a special lil girl and ik it

I'm glad y'all enjoyed it even tho I was just sulking in a corner the whole time.

[Noraa]

you legitimately played outside of your previous scum meta.

not exactly. I know exactly what I did this game that was a true scum tell but I'm not about to tell you.

Most the things everyone caught were entirely NAI. Perhaps a bit stronger in the scum game and weaker in the town. There is only one crucial difference and I don't think anyone has caught on quite yet

[Noraa]

it starts to eat away at you pretty quickly.

I can't deal in high pressure situations like limlo. That's my biggest flaw.

I mean ... I can't deal with it as town either but there's a lot of differences between my town and scum game in limlo.

[Noraa]

You shooting bell was the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever seen.

lmao I wanted to shoot bell way before murder even mentioned it.

[Noraa]

I got a kick out of shooting bell ngl.

[Noraa]

sorry bell :O

it was pretty funny from my end as well.

[Noraa]

Hectic told me it was a genius move and I deserved a scummie for it :O

[Noraa]

Like he was lecturing u on why he wasn’t actually confbiased. And then u just whipped out a gun and blew his head off. Lololol

got tired of that what can I say?

[Noraa]

I got a huge kick out of it as well, thank you for that

ikr. I was like imma make an I M P A C T
ok but actually. I laughed my ass off for the first time in limlo when I shot bell. O_O sorry bell. I has evil mind.

[Noraa]

Y'all probs shouldn't read the scum pt. Half of it is just me going "woe is me. red pms can go fuck themselves" :/

[Noraa]

It was 99% me whining about how unfortunate it was that I rolled scum :/

[Noraa]

But I've hated the alignment since a long time ago. I get a kick out of town wins but I get nothing out of scum games. Perhaps the tiniest bit of happiness. But mostly its just relief that its finally over...

[Noraa]

I literally cannot express my hate for this alignment. It's stronger than anything.

[Noraa]

Oh umm the other half of the pt is me telling momma bear Titus to save me

[Noraa]

O_O
yush there was that.

[Noraa]

I'll also be doing a scummy write-up I've decided

for me? I thought you had to be like a year old to get a scummie?
I is only like 4 months old or something doesn't qualify :/

[Noraa]

wait. hol up. am I not even 3 months old?
wait wait wait. is isis even allowed to let me mod if I'm not old enough?

[Noraa]

august, september, October
3 months minus 3 days?

[Noraa]

Lol. You are too good noraaaaaa

pooky u is very good too

[Noraa]

Pooky/Murder/Noraa hydra
*brain explosion gif*

[Noraa]

I don't think anyone is worried about that with you

lmfao what 80 posts per day?

[Noraa]

it's been a while since I've gotten out of a gif-pocket <3

Lmfao I really did try everything to get u in my pocket eh?

[Noraa]

Now that game is ~kinda~ over, I'd like to announce that Noraa, the Jester has won alongside all of town :3

It's only fair this way. Or hectic can turn me into a Noraa faction member. Or just make my role pm green O_O

[Noraa]

Otherwise its not fair and I has to call the Noraa protection popo to come and arrest hectic <.<

[Noraa]

hectic reply too slow,

[Noraa]

I'm glad it took a while for hectic to come so that we could decompress a bit before post game

lmfao. still upsetti spaghetti about all the fakeness surrounding my posts but eh. Pooky says I win no matter what so U-U I clearly won as the town jester.

[Noraa]

Hold up lemme go copy paste NM's intro posts. They'll be put to good use here!

[Noraa]

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[Noraa]

Wait no. gotta take out the quote. can't look fake.

[Noraa]

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[Noraa]

B I N G O

[Noraa]

I'll have to ask NM if I'm allowed to use that post as my opening post in future new games :O

[Noraa]

Hectic is a wonderful mod and friend

I adore him.

[Noraa]

His disc does get spammed up by distressed Noraa from time to time tho O_O

[Noraa]

that's how you make him regret giving you a red pm

^_^

[Noraa]

I need to stop spamming my town game mod's inboxes so that my scum game ones feel special

U-U half my town mods get uh ... spammed too :/

[Noraa]

pms be like

Noraa:

Noraa jails Pooky

Mod: received
Noraa: that's subject to change btw
Mod: understood
Noraa: nah im jus gonna still with pooky
Mod: Alright
Noraa: wait no. actually,

Noraa jails Murder

Mod: received
Noraa: actually, I changed my mind again.

Noraa jails Fidget

Mod: *ignores*
Noraa: wait last time changing.

Noraa jails Uno

Mod: *ignores again*
Noraa: I promise this is the last time!

Noraa jails Pooky

Mod: *rolls eyes behind the screen*
Noraa: Ok yeah I'm decided! Imma jail Pooky.
Mod: *whispers to their cat: does she ever shut up?*
Noraa: YAYA Pooky was scum. Thank you, mod!
Mod: *whispers to cat: gosh she's annoying*
Noraa: *crickets*
Mod: Ah finally some peace and silence. wait shit did I just send that to her. shitshitshitshit
Noraa:
~end of story~

[Noraa]

HECTIC TY FOR MODDING

My favorite part of the game was spamming ur disc :3

Also u is an amazing person
Ty for listening to me complain about how red is an ugly color :O

[Noraa]

All of town did a wonderful job. Mush had extremely good play this game and Murder catching me in limlo(even tho I kinda made it really obvi) was good.

Shooting bell was really fun O_O

Fidget, agreeing with murder was one of the huge deciding factors.

Gloria, ilysm. You made this game really enjoyable. Just ur presence was amazing. The kindness and all. You didn't replace in but u missed out on huge parts of the game and I'll go ahead and just say your reads were influenced bc of precisely that.

To my scum team, ily. I generally say, I hope we win next time we're scum but I feel like that's just like asking for bad luck LMFAO cuz I don't wanna roll red in the first place. T^T shelly, I think Noraa/shelly scum teams are just like ... not meant to win or something :/ You'd think 3 games would be enough but nah we lost all three *siiiiiiiigh*

Momma bear, u offered a lot of comfort to me when I wuz being tunneled

Everyone else, U-U I has forgotten who else was involved bc of this *knocks on my head* dumb brain, but y'all were funsies. congrats on the win, town.

gg.

I don't think I'll ever effort like this as scum again but idk cuz this sounds more like something a person with a 5 year old age on MS would say than a .... 3 month old dang infant. We'll see ig?

No one has found the key to reading me and I'll await a day when someone finally does

[Noraa]

Okie off to bed

[Noraa]

LMFAO

[Noraa]

I want to say that uno will be forever paranoid. 3 whole Noraa scum games. I hope he has nightmares

[Noraa]

I thought I was done crying but then I saw the dead thread. Maybe I just need to wait like a month to read it.

[Noraa]

Gloria ty for forgiving me for the nasty red pm

[Noraa]

Noraa dayvigging Bell was the most epic thing I’ve ever experienced in any game ever.

this noraa gif was what went thru my head when I saw her do that while Bell was trying to explain to her why he wasn't actually doing blah blah

oopsie I uh O_O gave myself away too early

[Noraa]

BTW in the mafi thread, at the beginning of the game, shelly told me pooky and Isis had good reads and I was like "not really"

That wasn't meant offensively O_O

It was because my subconscious remembered that both had bad reads. After I went back and checked .... both games I was in with those two, they were scum -______________________________-

wasn't "bad reads".

was "ugly ass role pm color"

[Noraa]

Oh nnuuuuuuu my croc face got messed up.

redo:
-____________________________________________-

[Noraa]

Sweetie, as I said you made the game a delight. And you reassured me that all of the extremely kind things you said about me were on the level. <3

The game wouldn’t have nearly been as much fun had you been scrolled on D1, so for that reason alone, I take great pride in that very wrong read I had of you. I would never be sad losing to scum!Noraa ever.

<3
I truly enjoyed your presence. Emotions like that can't be faked from me

I want to say I enjoyed pooky but he actually scared the crap out of me in limlo. Every literal two minutes I was like ok I'm dead X_X

[Noraa]

Btw .... my emotional range as town isn't that wide unless someone pisses me off big time like .... in stuff I'm listening to but even then, I didn't show my anger that much.

Theres a lot you have to do to piss off a calm town!Noraa that is blissfully skipping around and blowing bubbles of fluff at everyone.

You don't have to do much to piss off an angry scum!Noraa because she's already pissed because of her role pm LMFAO.