TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Guillotina]

What's up guys.

Hard Claim

I'm ascetic

[Guillotina]

Known faces to me: Toogeloo, Bell, Flea. Hi again!

I've played with before but can't quite remember their meta: Vaxkiller, unwnd, Nono

Everyone else, hi! Nice to meet!

[Guillotina]

Players	comments
Nono	Odd entrance to the game, posts read like, just recalling events in-thread as they are happening, instead of having anything distinct to say,
Raya36	Posts do not jump at me. They are all within reason... Went from (Why would unwnd lie -> OK Maybe unwnd is lying) without concluding why their thought changed. I hope they find conviction eventually
Jake The Wolfie	Willing ignorance in some areas combined with specific confrontation that only bares itself to seem townie.
Vaxkiller	What has you so excited!?!
Cook	Is quite scummy. Vain. Popped in with a Korina vote when everyone was already past that vote. Ignored my claim.
Flea The Magician	Will not be reading faer. Resolved through NAR or mechanics.
Toogeloo	They seem just fine. Not worried. VT modifier thing.
Guillotina	No comment. Spews own alignment with shitty gambit later.
Bell	I worry that he's scum this game. I see the writing on the wall, but not enough to push it yet.
dsjstr	No comment o7
Angry Birds (hydra of Syryana and penguin_alien)	Only posts so far is a hyperactive claim to kill.. *checks ISO* Disney Princesses. Syr wanted to stand close (or generate content) around familiarity gives me great pause.
NDMath	Hello. I don't know how to read you.
Hayker	*Crickets chirping*
PookyTheMagicalBear	Wut haz u so excited
samantha97	Wanted to know my Birthday. OK.
Particularly Stupid (hydra of Cephrir and Lady Lambdadelta)	I want to know more about you. I am null.
Magnus V	Cares more than he wants to. This is usually a good thing.
unwnd	Hey
Disney Princesses (hydra of Spiffeh and Nachomamma8)	Get to it later.
Rebel Radio (hydra of hellbooks and DkKoba)	Not sure, but I don't townread them.
Korina	HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF UNDIVIDED ATTENTION AND LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT TO BE LIMMED JUST IGNORE IT

Or I claimed my negative utility role in my first post, which is standard procedure to claim when randing town.

[Guillotina]

Because it is something i know.

Here are the 3 lines of reasoning I came up with sharing this information as the 3 types of alignment:

Town: It is true information, and it's better for us to be informed. I would disagree with this, but more to the point: it basically invites players to begin quiestioning you about how much you actually do know, which focuses more on mechanics rather than gameplay. It also forces you to play your entire hand.

Anti-Town: You are phishing for a reaction from other players, to see if they are surprised that another anti-town faction exists and to then find and peg them for free town points. You don't necessarily have to be speaking the truth to play this gambit.

Neutral: There are many reasons why you would reveal this information as a Neutral. I can't really say why you would or why you shouldn't have.

I thought the game being multiball is just something that's almost sure to happen? Why analyze so much into it?

It is? How do you know?

[Guillotina]

V/LA until February 16th. 05:00 PM PST

[Guillotina]

TL;DR Where we at?

[Guillotina]

I havent read anything since the last time i posted and dont plan to at least until tomorrow.

Who is mafia?

[Guillotina]

I havent read anything since the last time i posted and dont plan to at least until tomorrow.

Who is mafia?

stop this. its fake.
-koba

It's legit, prove me wrong.

[Guillotina]

I havent read anything since the last time i posted and dont plan to at least until tomorrow.

Who is mafia?

stop this. its fake.
-koba

It's legit, prove me wrong.

go read the game and present some content please
-koba

Nah, no time today.

[Guillotina]

It'd be great to have a summary of notable events cause reading 20+ pages tomorrow is gonna be hell

[Guillotina]

It'd be great to have a summary of notable events cause reading 20+ pages tomorrow is gonna be hell

korina claimed 3p survivor mason (Toad from mario)

that's it

That's it? 34 pages and that's the notable event?

Why is Hayker a wagon?

[Guillotina]

Hayker slot gives me vibes like he does not care about getting yeeted. Voting for Vaxkiller saying “yah that's

good enough

for me”, like any death is ok for him, does not sound like what a wolf would say. I'd lean more towards an independent like a Jester or a townie looking for a lazy sheep, which is totally anti-town behavior in my opinion.

VOTE: Hayker

[Guillotina]

You literally just posted "this slot is town" and then voted it. Excuse me

Then you need glasses. I said he has a tone of a jester or from a slot who randed townie but does not give a flying cow about the game, suicidal, meaning anti town.

[Guillotina]

I think I am comfortable swapping PS and Guillotina in my reads piles (guillotina from null -> scum, PS from Scum -> Null)
-koba

Oh shit, you got me!

[Guillotina]

Maybe Hayker is Dead Air, Dead Villager

UNVOTE: Hayker

I think i know whom im ISOing first tomorrow.

Thanks for the reactions! You are da best!

[Guillotina]

By the way I confirm my claim. Im ascetic

[Guillotina]

Hayker slot gives me vibes like he does not care about getting yeeted. Voting for Vaxkiller saying “yah that's

good enough

for me”, like any death is ok for him, does not sound like what a wolf would say. I'd lean more towards an independent like a Jester or a townie looking for a lazy sheep, which is totally anti-town behavior in my opinion.

VOTE: Hayker

You're leaning towards the being a jester but voting still?

Yah? Jesters win but we all know that's a joke on them because the game continues, so they don't actually win.

Maybe Hayker is Dead Air, Dead Villager

UNVOTE: Hayker

I think i know whom im ISOing first tomorrow.

Thanks for the reactions! You are da best!

Don't like how quickly you got off that wagon after backlash

We townies are allowed to change our minds as quickly as we want and as frequently as we want.

[Guillotina]

ISOing Particularly Stupid for his particularly stupid and wolfy push on me.

[Guillotina]

NGL I wanted to find a reason besides OMGUS to scum read PS, but his slot feels townie. All except the particularly stupid push on me after failing to read the entire context of my post I'm guessing.

I'm not gonna say that he has been DA game solver but by tone, I think the slot is town.

[Guillotina]

Has Hayker comeback at all? any statements from him(her)?

[Guillotina]

yo guillotina you unvoted hayker right? can you throw a vote their way again so this day can end in something less than a trainwreck

I wouldn't mind at this point but what's the rush? There is like 10 days left no?

[Guillotina]

And honestly I just cameback from VL, so hammering now before I can even play kinda sucks.

[Guillotina]

TOAD (FROM MARIO)

Wait, you got a character? I didn't get a character wth? All I got was a negative utility role meh. :/

[Guillotina]

looks like u posted on that page... so you would be aware of that role and could use it as a fakeclaim.


dont buy it.
-koba

Bruh! I posted there and I only remember what I posted. You are treating this like Korina is supposed memorize 9,876 roles that are in there.

[Guillotina]

ur never gonna be helping town solve, ur gonna just be kept alive cuz like i said, survivors are just flexible traitors and suboptimal kills for scum factions. ur a detriment to town win con and have to go.
-koba

Not exactly true. I've seen survivors that have roles that help them town side.

[Guillotina]

Why is Korina posting in CAPS all the time?

[Guillotina]

ur never gonna be helping town solve, ur gonna just be kept alive cuz like i said, survivors are just flexible traitors and suboptimal kills for scum factions. ur a detriment to town win con and have to go.
-koba

Not exactly true. I've seen survivors that have roles that help them town side.

they inherently do not care about winning with town. there are 7 guaranteed anti town roles in this setup. there is no guarantee that their role is even real here. we can safely remove them from the game and be in a decent spot
-koba

But Korina is claiming Mason, what makes you think Korina is 3P? Did I miss something?

[Guillotina]

Rules

(Adapted from northsidegal with some edits)

-Sample VT and Mafia Goon Role PMs are listed here:

Vanilla Townie

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Vanilla Townie

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• You have no special abilities.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Mafia Goon

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, TemporalLich! You are a

Mafia Goon

, aligned with the

Mafia

.

Abilities:
• You have no special abilities.

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia,

[redacted]

. Your Private Topic is here:

[redacted]

• Each night, one member of the Mafia may perform the Mafia factional nightkill.

Win Condition:

•

You win when all the threats to the

Mafia

are gone and at least one

Mafioso

is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm your Role PM by replying with your role and alignment, or by posting in the Mafia PT.

Ok according to these sample role pms. There are only two factions?

If there were 3ps, wouldn't a sample role pm listed for them too? Maybe Hayker is not a Jester after all.

[Guillotina]

guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

[Guillotina]

guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

what? call you out for pretending to not know basic things about grand idea mafia when you yourself said you contributed to a thread for it? and managed to miss the multiple times we called korina a survivor/3p but managed to see they were a mason?
yeah i think ur dumbtelling and trying to fake it rn.

if not then sorry but yeah.

-koba

That's right. I'm new here and painting me as dumbtelling is shady as hell.

[Guillotina]

Nah, you are not sorry. Now that is a fake sentiment

[Guillotina]

guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

what? call you out for pretending to not know basic things about grand idea mafia when you yourself said you contributed to a thread for it? and managed to miss the multiple times we called korina a survivor/3p but managed to see they were a mason?
yeah i think ur dumbtelling and trying to fake it rn.

if not then sorry but yeah.

-koba

That's right. I'm new here and painting me as dumbtelling is shady as hell.

you're not new to mafia. i don't know if you remember me but I know of you from mafiauniverse so I have a bit more expectations from you, plus the other stuff i mentioned where u caught the mason claim but not the vivor one.
-koba

I'm new to the ways here. MU and MS are two different sites whom play totally differently and I've played considerably less games here than there. Don't pretend to know more about me than myself.

[Guillotina]

guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

what? call you out for pretending to not know basic things about grand idea mafia when you yourself said you contributed to a thread for it? and managed to miss the multiple times we called korina a survivor/3p but managed to see they were a mason?
yeah i think ur dumbtelling and trying to fake it rn.

if not then sorry but yeah.

-koba

That's right. I'm new here and painting me as dumbtelling is shady as hell.

you're not new to mafia. i don't know if you remember me but I know of you from mafiauniverse so I have a bit more expectations from you, plus the other stuff i mentioned where u caught the mason claim but not the vivor one.
-koba

Fuck your expectations. I'm here to kill scum not to impress you.

[Guillotina]

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

[Guillotina]

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

You are saying like, you are solving privately and we should take your word for it? Why should we?

[Guillotina]

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

SCUM NIGHTKILL, UNLESS YOU'RE PROPOSING WE HAVE A LOOKOUT OR EQUIVELENT ROLE ON ME?

So, if we die we die but we leave a legacy for town to solve the game.

[Guillotina]

Give me names Korina. Who you think are town and whom scum?

[Guillotina]

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT GUILLO IS THAT I HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO HELP ANYONE. MY ENTIRE GOAL IS TO SURVIVE. IF I DIE, IT MATTERS TO LITERALLY NOBODY THAT I DID SO; THEREFORE, ME SOLVING IN THE THREAD IS POINTLESS.
I'M ONLY SOLVING IN THE MASON THREAD BECAUSE I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THE MASON ROLE ACTUALLY USEFUL.

Well that is the issue, we hold the majority! It is true you have to obligation to help us, but we can force you to or we eliminate you. Now I see radio's point.

Either you help us survive so we feel like helping you survive, or we eliminate you.

[Guillotina]

I'm ok with yeeting Korina or Hayker, but Korina more now. She has no obligation to help, I got no obligation to help her survive.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: KORINA

Help us solve the game. Fuck your private solving that only helps you or.... get the guillotine.

[Guillotina]

TOWN: BELL, D.P., DJ, NONO, RAYA, SAM, TOOG
SCUM: REBEL, UNWND(?)

I HAVE BEEN V/LA FOR 60% OF THIS GAME, AND TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY I'M SERIOUSLY READING THINGS FROM THIS THREAD, AND I MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT TODAY.

PEDIT: AND I'M DOING THAT THROUGH THE MASONRY. IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T POST AT ALL IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE TO THOUGH SO I SHALL JUST SHITPOST IN THIS THREAD.

Ok. How about you give us a summary of why those names are in your town list and those in your scum list. Specially Rebel please.

[Guillotina]

PLUS, DAY ONE DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL.

DAY 1 Starts mattering now because I'm here.

[Guillotina]

I SHALL NOT ELABORATE ON MY TOWN READS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE NAMES IS MY MASON BUDDY, AND WE'VE AGREED TO NOT OUT EACH OTHER YET.
AS FOR WHY REBEL IS SCUM, LITERALLY READ MY ISO. I HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE WHY I THINK REBEL IS SCUM.

You claimed 3P, you are not town to be a mason.

[Guillotina]

Im unsyre how much im allowd fto say about my pm. It lusted serial killer as a possible alignment as well. Well have fun not advancing town win con guys. I did lie about my alignmebt but wow you guys are execution heavy. I am not affiliated with any groups

A 3p as well. A jester?

Well I guess we'll know eventually.

[Guillotina]

Hayker has been exiled!

There is a 72 hour Twilight Extension phase. It is now Twilight 1. Everyone still alive, including Hayker, may talk during this phase. The flip will happen at the end of the Twilight Extension phase.

Twilight 1 will end in (expired on 2021-02-19 15:10:00)

Was this thanks to you Hayker? you extended the twilight? Or was this part of the rules and I missed it?

[Guillotina]

we got any twlight dayvigs?
-koba

Now who is dumbtelling. Twilight is twilight. Not Day nor night. Wowee

[Guillotina]

guillotina can you stop dumbtelling thanks.
-koba

Don't do that.

what? call you out for pretending to not know basic things about grand idea mafia when you yourself said you contributed to a thread for it? and managed to miss the multiple times we called korina a survivor/3p but managed to see they were a mason?
yeah i think ur dumbtelling and trying to fake it rn.

if not then sorry but yeah.

-koba

That's right. I'm new here and painting me as dumbtelling is shady as hell.

then stop dumbtelling

I'm not. I was genuine, prove me wrong.

[Guillotina]

we got any twlight dayvigs?
-koba

Now who is dumbtelling. Twilight is twilight. Not Day nor night. Wowee

grand idea thread has about 4 dayvigs that only work in twilight.

and theres even 1 twilight cop.
i found this doing my research on what could have caused this extension.

-koba

I stand corrected. I Keep forgetting we playing off Grand Idea's thread unorthodox mechanics.

[Guillotina]

you are now vigorously defending your own stupidity

i don't mean this as an insult i just think it's funny

Whom was this referred to?

[Guillotina]

you are now vigorously defending your own stupidity

i don't mean this as an insult i just think it's funny

Whom was this referred to?

im also amused that you can't figure that out

Nope, cause I'm nowhere near being stupid so that can't be about me.

[Guillotina]

Right?

[Guillotina]

ok genius

I know. Thank you!

[Guillotina]

The fact that it's 3 days long is the part that sucks. I don't mind twilight extensions, but 24 hours at most is all we need. Imagine speed lynching someone, then sitting in the thread for 72 hours, and then having to wait for night actions, before finally getting to vote someone again as a VT.

Speed lynching on Day 1 only benefits scum. This twilight should be considered a blessing for town, now all those V/LAs can comeback and do some analysis and post their thoughts before we go int the night.

[Guillotina]

ok this is a random question but is anyone else having trouble finding their role in the Grand Idea thread - cuz i cant find ours. i tried earlier and i couldnt find it but now im trying to use keywords in our role pm and i still cant find it at all.
-koba

I would offer to help you find it but that would be scummy actually. I found mine though.

[Guillotina]

im not sure how this works when multiball is a thing

I'm betting the game is one mafia team and then a third party or two.

Yah I had missed the host revealing that there are 14 town aligned players. A team of 7 scum is incredibly wolf sided, it can't be. There gotta be 3ps for sure.

Also judging from the Grand Idea thread with so many OP roles, my guess is 4 wolves and three 3ps for balance.

[Guillotina]

[Guillotina]

WHAT REASON DO I HAVE TO LIE ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO BE TURNED INTO A TOWNIE AS WELL AS SURVIVOR
LIKE, DOING SO MAKES IT SO I'M MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED IF I'M STILL ACTUALLY A SURV

[Guillotina]

Why is Korina posting in

CAPS

all the time?

Why is Korina posting in CAPS all the time?

MY ROLE HAS A POST RESTRICTION WHERE I MUST POST IN ALL

CAPS

WHAT REASON DO I HAVE TO

LIE

ABOUT BEING UNABLE TO BE TURNED INTO A

TOWNIE AS WELL AS SURVIVOR

LIKE, DOING SO MAKES IT SO I'M MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED IF I'M STILL ACTUALLY A SURV

[Guillotina]

I

HAS A POST RESTRICTION

[Guillotina]

I was claiming regardless of what result you were

[Guillotina]

Like if you got a town result why claim instantly? doesn't make sense to me :/

[Guillotina]

Not sure yet.

It doesnt seem that cut and dry to me. If unwnd is scum and also not really a bloodhound here, then I would guess he was an eliminator which I wouldn't care about at all.

Unwnd could be a lyncher. He could be factional scum. He could be cult. His win condition is being served by securing the lynch via getting Bell killed then trying to talk his way out of it later.

[Guillotina]

It still says Not Town

Like sure, my sanity isn't confirmed. But what if it's true? I didn't like your D1 play so I had reason to investigate you and then follow it up with a vote. I don't believe a bit of wacky mechanics should get you or Nacho reeling at this premise

[Guillotina]

VOTE: JAKE

[Guillotina]

I believe Guilotina has violated the post restriction by quoting other players to spell out words in #1612.

@

Lich

[Guillotina]

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia.

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia.

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia. Other than this,

you are a standard serial killer

wait you WANT to be roleblocked? o.o

If I'm not town

I'm SK.

And I don't have any roleblockable abilities.
So like yes?

I think my logic makes sense?

WIFOM

[Guillotina]

UNVOTE: JAKE

[Guillotina]

ISOing

NDmath

[Guillotina]

Welp, better give guillotina a quote board to use.

Spoiler:

I SR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I TR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want to hear more from:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want reads on
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina
from
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is a liar:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is Telling the truth:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Needs to explain wtaf they're doing and sooner rather than later:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Why aren't they dead yet?
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

[Guillotina]

o7

Doubtful

[Guillotina]

@Guill, Very confused for a bit, figured it out.

I used the search function, searching up 'Informed Neighbor'.
This highlighted the title removing color. (Even after clicking on the post.)
So it looked like two town and one sk to me, I never doublechecked since why would I need to double check.

[Guillotina]

Unless it's quoting, pictures of that character, and voting there is not post restriction

[Guillotina]

Are you only allowed to use pictures of bears?

[Guillotina]

UNVOTE: JAKE

ISOing

NDmath

VOTE: JAKE

Two posts where its only votes

One where its only quotes

no pics

[Guillotina]

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&p=11863100&hi ... #p11863100

Hopefully

this works how I think it does

.

[Guillotina]

particularly stupid

did you visit last night?

[Guillotina]

I

cannot

post

new

words.

[Guillotina]

particularly stupid

did you visit last night?

[Guillotina]

You just can't post new words? So the images are just your idea for reactions?

[Guillotina]

If I had that post restriction, I'd either just V/LA through it, or ask for a replacement. That is literally the dumbest post restriction imaginable.

[Guillotina]

Third party isn't town which is great but I think it'd just be a repeat of D1 if we went down that route. Town can't win by just eliminating third parties with their own agendas, we kind of need to contest with scum first.

[Guillotina]

We really need to kill the

cult leader

today or we're gunna lose prolly.
They'll just pick up the strongest players and snowball from there.

[Guillotina]

We really need to kill the cult leader today or we're gunna lose prolly.
They'll just pick up the strongest players and snowball from there.

Is there confirmation of this outside of pooky shitposting

[Guillotina]

There is one role that can change another player's alignment that isn't cult.

It's statistically unlikely be that.

Either there's a cult or Korina is lying.
Pick 1.

[Guillotina]

More specifically, if you think there is a cult leader, how do you propose finding it and eliminating it? Should we mass claim*, think that would do it?





*I do not endorse Mass Claim.

[Guillotina]

There is one role that can change another player's alignment that isn't cult.

It's statistically unlikely be that.

Either there's a cult or Korina is lying.
Pick 1.

Why do you think it's unlikely that the [role which can turn non-town into town] turning a non-town into town didn't?

I think it's likely

Samantha changed non-town Korina from non-town to town

. But that's where the Math gets confused because if Korina was changed it should have been 12, not 11.

samantha97, Player-selected role with a twist turned

1-Shot

Recharging

Townizer

,

died

Night 1[/spoiler]

Spoiler: Periodic V/LAs

Korina is V/LA on weekends.

Day 1 Flavor

As the green sun rises, something in the distance is lurking. The Great City is not safe. The crystal dragons and other denizens are bracing for an incursion on their realm. A strange transmission indicates that there are a baker's dozen and one defenders of the Great City.

Day 1 has begun!

There are 14 Town-aligned players alive.

VC 1.0

Not voting: Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Cook, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, Hayker, PookyTheMagicalBear, samantha97, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Rebel Radio, Korina

With 21 alive it takes greater than 10.5 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-02-26 16:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

Korina is V/LA until Monday.

Day 2 Flavor

The blue sun shines on the realm with the force of a million blue suns (recursively). The dazzling light proves to coat the realm in an eerie blue glow and also make it hot for some reason. Another of those weird transmissions comes out, now indicating only oneteen defenders of the city exist.

Rebel Radio has died during the night. They were

PookyTheMagicalBear

Spoiler: Rebel Radio

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Rebel Radio! You are

PookyTheMagicalBear

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• You may name yourself anything during Pregame, but this does not have any effect beyond giving yourself a name.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Cook has died during the night. He was a

Town Collector

Spoiler: Cook

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Cook! You are a

Town Collector

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• Every time someone dies you will gain their role abilities.
• You may use as many role abilities as you have each night and day (if applicable).
• If you gain an x-shot ability, you have as many shots left as that player had when they died.
• You also gain passive abilities.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

samanatha97 has died during the night. They were a

Player-selected role with a twist

turned

1-Shot Recharging Townizer

Spoiler: samantha97 (old)

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, samantha97! You are a

Player-selected role with a twist

, with an indeterminate alignment.

Abilities:
• The player who gets this can create whatever role they want for themselves, but they must post it in the Grand Idea Mafia thread before the game starts.
• A role that is either completely game-breaking or unfun will be vetoed.
• If your chosen role is vetoed or you fail to pick your role before the game starts you will be notified of this and turned into a

Vanilla Townie

.

Win Condition:
• Your win condition is dependent on the alignment you have posted in the Grand Idea Mafia thread.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: samantha97 (new)

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, samantha97! You are now a

1-Shot Recharging Townizer

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• Once per night you may target another player and attempt to change their alignment to 'Town'. Targeting a player aligned with the town, or a member of an informed faction with more than 1 member alive, will result in the ability failing. If successful, that player will retain their role abilities. You will be notified the next day if your ability fails for any reason, and your 'shot' will be recharged.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Day 2 has begun!

There are 11 Town-aligned players alive.

VC 2.0

Not voting: Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

With 17 alive it takes greater than 8.5 to exile.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-03-03 16:20:00) or when an exile is reached.

Flea The Magician is V/LA indefinitely.

VOTE: KORINA

[Guillotina]

ONE

LOST

NIGHT ONE.

[Guillotina]

OK, GUILLO

WE START WITH FOURTEEN PEOPLE
THREE PEOPLE DIE NIGHT ONE
WE'RE DOWN TO ELEVEN
I GET ADDED TO TOWN, WE'RE UP TO TWELVE
SOMEONE GETS

CULTED

, (LOST A TOWNIE), WE'RE BACK DOWN TO ELEVEN

WHO

Is there confirmation

[Guillotina]

i'm gonna go sleep, i'll think about this properly tomorrow

[Guillotina]

GUILLO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I KNOW WHO WAS CULTED

HERE IS A CULT LEADER WHO CULTED.

Seems like speculation.

[Guillotina]

A DAYVIG SHOOTING ME IS SHOOTING TOWN

[Guillotina]

If I had that post restriction, I'd either just V/LA through it, or ask for a replacement. That is literally the dumbest post restriction imaginable.

that's

because

you

are

a

Quitter.

[Guillotina]

o7

LISTEN UP BEAN SPOUTS

unwnd I am being persuaded to believe that you are the reason that we know that there are 14 town I will need to check again but I love this dialogue.

Bear with me I know that I'm running on fumes about to get another drink but I'll finish this for sure sorry sorry

Politely requesting we not go speculating into the source of that.

Hayker wagon looks really dumb

. Especially disappointed that more

than one should-just-be-town

(Toogeloo, Sam) players are calling for a quickhammer rather than roleclaim.
VOTE: pooky

Someone convince me the hayker

votes aren't just an inactivity pl since that's what they look like.


Korina's survivor claim is interesting, not sure that I believe it, though pooky's point of waiting until six other nontown are dead makes a lot of sense.

[Guillotina]

FLEA, I LITERALLY CLAIMED MY ENTIRE ROLE.

I’M NOT A PGO OR SOME SHIT

. SCUM’S KILL ON SAM MAKES SENSE FROM A PURELY MECHANICAL PERSPECTIVE. I’VE CLAIMED SURVIVOR. I CAN SIDE WITH SCUM.

SAM CLAIMED A CONFIRMABLE ROLE THAT WILL

TARGET ME

.

THEY KILL SAM TO PREVENT THE CONFIRMATION.

I WAS SENT A TOWN-ALIGNED ROLE PM LAST NIGHT, MEANING SAM’S ABILITY WENT OFF, UNLESS WE HAVE SOME ROLE THAT JUST FUCKS WITH FEEDBACK.

VOTE: KORINA

[Guillotina]

on further inspection i also think

Raya and Cook are also Not Town.

-koba

What are your reasons for either?

Raya is currently my strongest townread

and while I don't have an impression on Cook he is one of my very special FAST FRIENDS so I'd like to minimize erroneous pushes on him.

Im so sorry u rolled scum with raya.

But both hellbooks and i agree this is scum raya personality.
-koba

Very interesting

. So we have

Korina

,

Pooky

, Magnus, and me.

Assuming you're telling the truth, 2 in Korina, Pooky, and Magnus from my perspective is really not a bad pool

I wonder if we're dealing with a lot of scum this game. 50% of the votes on one player seems like a lot

, especially right at the start of the game when barely anyone has come in.

Also are third party considered scum or do they have their own general term?

tooge gates me that sux

Hot take: Pooky is one of the scum on the wagon. Kind of an easy claim

VOTE: Pooky

So you don't actually think Korina is uncultable or do you just think the restriction is trolling. Not sure I follow what part you think is the lie.

That's true. If I had that ability I probably wouldn't use it right away on the start of the first wagon.

UNVOTE:

The bulk of my townread on Raya is based on this progression. I liked her #35 because immediately drew focus on a limited scum pool that included her; if she was scum and she believed the claim, I think it would be smarter to see if other people bought it before responding/I find it unlikely she would be willing to give it credence.

I liked the push on Pooky based on the pool because it's consistent with her thoughts elsewhere - would have been easy for her to continue pushing Korina but instead she expresses skepticism because the wagon moved too fast, makes sense that she wouldn't push Magnus based on the townlean she mentions later, so Pooky is the last one left.

And backing off the claim completely after someone points out reasoning seemed pure to me since it just doesn't really looks like Raya has an agenda with all of this - she takes a lot of different perspectives in a short amount of time and seems as willing to abandon something as she is to start it which is very much how town should be approaching the game at this stage.

Imma be real with u
Ur describing how raya plays as scum lol

which only makes an immediate massclaim an even worse idea

bit wrong but ok. u sound guilty with this kinda fear

-koba

particularly stupid

did you visit last night?

what is everyones read on pooky.
-koha

I think Pooky is just messing around about the cult stuff. I just looked back at his iso and he also said he's a confirmable tpr.

He's playing his scum meta rn, so I don't really buy it.
-koba

now:

scum / not town pile

:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

and my null pile :

guillotina: not enough content really to sort but lean town

raya: were in my scum pile

but recent post actually made me reconsider lol

particularly stupid: not sure if just fucking around or just scum. playing anti town tho.

pooky- claims a resolveable PR. i dont exactly buy it. their push on me feels bad too as if they want to only discredit me rather than convince me they are town.

[Guillotina]

did i visit someone last night? yes. was it rebel? no. if there's something else substantial in there, i don't see it.
am i going to care about your dumb vendetta against me because i pointed out that your bad post was bad? probably not.

overdefensive

[Guillotina]

[redacted]

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Particularly Stupid

who did you visit and why?

[Guillotina]

Why

did

Rebel Radio

die

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Korina

[Guillotina]

Why

did

Rebel Radio

die

Someone killed em

NO SHIT SHERLOCK

[Guillotina]

particularly stupid: not sure if just fucking around or just scum. playing anti town tho.

I demand an answer.

[Guillotina]

Ok, no worries.

Id like an answer, please.

I demand an answer.

Answer or we fade you.


Here you go guil.

[Guillotina]

I think I am comfortable swapping PS and Guillotina in my reads piles (guillotina from null -> scum, PS from Scum -> Null)
-koba

hey look, i can quote the dead to make you look bad too.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Jake

Be proud of what you are or don't be at all

I'm not scum.

I'm not town either.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Jake

claim

[Guillotina]

I think guils town here, at least at the moment.

[Guillotina]

I think guils town here, at least at the moment.

Scumclaim, guills a

bear

attacking the village.

Lion

[Guillotina]

Lion

Lion

Lion

Lion

Lion

[Guillotina]

I'm not claiming because I *literally* don't know my role.

[Guillotina]

*pets the lionbearthing*

7 of 8.5 required...

The amount

of 3p in this game is nuts...

jakey you should claim

[Guillotina]

Hazy Memory

what?

Jake The Wolfie

is

lolcatting!

[Guillotina]

he's probably telling the truth since that would be a pretty strange thing to make up

[Guillotina]

yeah? you think a brilliant scum plan is to make up a role that isn't town aligned? ok thanks for enlightening me please teach me more of your ways

man, the scum in this game must be real morons

since they're apparently throwing themselves at our feet asking to die.

obtusely deflected

the lack of effort or engagement at all to expand on his reads and interact in good faith is scummy.

also sounded really frustrated over nothing, really, which sounds like overreaction to being pushed.

VOTE: Particularly Stupid

[Guillotina]

What about my claim sounds like a fake guilty to you. I'm not gambiting here, I'm telling you my result, it was Not Town

hes either a cop

or a scumbag

either way he is getting shot tonight

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Raya36

[Guillotina]

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

VOTE: KORINA

[Guillotina]

does any1 really believe Jake doesn't have a win condition

[Guillotina]

I went into this game to have fun

, not win!

Unfortunately everyone else got interesting roles

Oh, well, I still have shit posting!

Unwnd, you seriously complaining about game setup in this type of game? I think your mad because you got found out.

[Guillotina]

why isn't angry birds posting? i feel like there should be at least

200% more shitposts

coming from that slot.

who else is coasting?

nono would be an ok elim just on the grounds that it will never be possible to decipher their posts.

Do you want

garbage?

I want

quality

angry birds

quality

please.

[Guillotina]

Yeah, yeah, just cast me as the bird on the right. And I wonder why I rarely get repeat-hydra-plays.

I'm ignoring the fucking lion pictures

. Sorry you seem to have an actual post restriction, Guillotina, but I'm not playing charades with a cartoon.

If it's a multi-day thing

, I'll let my pictures-half interpret for me tomorrow.

[Guillotina]

In the meantime, I'm kind of assuming anyone who goes to that much effort to post despite digging through shit to do so really wants to participate, so have a town participation trophy.

Players I'm not interested in eliminating today post-catch-up:
Guillotina--see above

[Guillotina]

And yes, unwnd, you got attention. You got Bell to claim.

My issue is with what you did in the process and after. It just doesn't make sense coming from a decent player as town

.

[Guillotina]

Yeah, yeah, just cast me as the bird on the right. And I wonder why I rarely get repeat-hydra-plays.

I'm ignoring the fucking lion pictures. Sorry you seem to have an actual post restriction, Guillotina, but I'm not playing

charades with a cartoon

. If it's a multi-day thing, I'll let my

pictures

-half interpret for me tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm kind of assuming anyone who goes to that much effort to post despite digging through shit to do so really wants to participate, so have a town participation trophy.

Players I'm not interested in eliminating today post-catch-up:
Guillotina--see above

Particularly Stupid--

readable

thread content

Particularly Stupid

feels like gamesolving?

[Guillotina]

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

[Guillotina]

--PA

[Guillotina]

VOTE: FLEA

Spoiler:

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

[Guillotina]

Pooky

ISO

just fluff.

[Guillotina]

town you are.

VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: NDMath

Neutral

VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Toogeloo

antitown you are.

VOTE: Pooky
VOTE: Particularly Stupid
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: Nono
VOTE: Flea

[Guillotina]

im insulted

[Guillotina]

Guilotina's just weird

[Guillotina]

Guilotina's just weird

im insulted

[Guillotina]

im insulted

Im not listed!

[Guillotina]

Am I wrong? At one point you're happy to

sheep me

onto Korina

Spoiler:

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

You are saying like, you are solving privately and we should take your word for it? Why should we?

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

SCUM NIGHTKILL, UNLESS YOU'RE PROPOSING WE HAVE A LOOKOUT OR EQUIVELENT ROLE ON ME?

So, if we die we die but we leave a legacy for town to solve the game.

Give me names Korina. Who you think are town and whom scum?

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT GUILLO IS THAT I HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO HELP ANYONE. MY ENTIRE GOAL IS TO SURVIVE. IF I DIE, IT MATTERS TO LITERALLY NOBODY THAT I DID SO; THEREFORE, ME SOLVING IN THE THREAD IS POINTLESS.
I'M ONLY SOLVING IN THE MASON THREAD BECAUSE I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THE MASON ROLE ACTUALLY USEFUL.

Well that is the issue, we hold the majority! It is true you have to obligation to help us, but we can force you to or we eliminate you. Now I see radio's point.

Either you help us survive so we feel like helping you survive, or we eliminate you.

I'm ok with yeeting Korina or Hayker, but Korina more now. She has no obligation to help, I got no obligation to help her survive.

VOTE: KORINA

Help us solve the game. Fuck your private solving that only helps you or.... get the guillotine.

TOWN: BELL, D.P., DJ, NONO, RAYA, SAM, TOOG
SCUM: REBEL, UNWND(?)

I HAVE BEEN V/LA FOR 60% OF THIS GAME, AND TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY I'M SERIOUSLY READING THINGS FROM THIS THREAD, AND I MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT TODAY.

PEDIT: AND I'M DOING THAT THROUGH THE MASONRY. IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T POST AT ALL IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE TO THOUGH SO I SHALL JUST SHITPOST IN THIS THREAD.

Ok. How about you give us a summary of why those names are in your town list and those in your scum list. Specially Rebel please.

PLUS, DAY ONE DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL.

DAY 1 Starts mattering now because I'm here.

I SHALL NOT ELABORATE ON MY TOWN READS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE NAMES IS MY MASON BUDDY, AND WE'VE AGREED TO NOT OUT EACH OTHER YET.
AS FOR WHY REBEL IS SCUM, LITERALLY READ MY ISO. I HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE WHY I THINK REBEL IS SCUM.

You claimed 3P, you are not town to be a mason.

TOWN: BELL, D.P., DJ,

NONO

,

RAYA

, SAM, TOOG
SCUM:

REBEL

, UNWND(?)

I HAVE BEEN V/LA FOR 60% OF THIS GAME, AND TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY I'M SERIOUSLY READING THINGS FROM THIS THREAD, AND I MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT TODAY.

PEDIT: AND I'M DOING THAT THROUGH THE MASONRY. IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T POST AT ALL IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE TO THOUGH SO I SHALL JUST SHITPOST IN THIS THREAD.

update

town you are.

VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: NDMath

Neutral

VOTE: Vax
VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Toogeloo

antitown you are.

VOTE: KORINA
VOTE: Pooky
VOTE: Particularly Stupid
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: Nono
VOTE: Flea

[Guillotina]

good news

can talk freely During Twilight

[Guillotina]

Putting guil into scum pile for thinking flea is scum this game

Because the read is

shallow asf

.

flea is scum this game

[Guillotina]

I can't believe I'm sheeping the guy who I got a Not Town result on

VOTE: Disney Princesses

[Guillotina]

Putting guil into scum pile for thinking flea is scum this game and only in reaction to flea giving them a hard time. Because the read is shallow asf.

misrepresentation

Flea, when you're town your reads actually have substance, which here it's blatant you don't and, similarly to raya, are tunneled in on me and are unable to comment on others(while that specific trait is something you are able to avoid when scum though.)

It looks to me that you feel threatened by me and wish to silence/discredit me instead of trying to resolve my slot. Feel free to prove otherwise by actually engaging with me though.
-koba

I don't recall mentioning my town reads much. Nice deflection. I've caught you as scum and as I do every time I am of that belief, I death tunnel.
You're not that familiar with my scum games. But you're familiar enough with my play to know I'm all over the damn place.

You're a threat to town, and then to me.

You're not disputing anything I'm raising but instead dismissing it as though it's nothing, that's not normal koba play. Normal Koba play is fight like a beast.

I'm trying to not be as aggressive as I used to be in games - this is a new playstyle I'm trying. Regardless no matter how smart you think you are, you're not going to catch me based on my personality because I play the same between alignments in that regard. I don't remember you ever catching me as scum as I don't think I have rolled scum against you.

You're just cementing my belief that you are uninterested in trying to sort me and are keen on discrediting me / painting me as scum.

And I'm not disputing anything you're saying? I'd say that trying to pull more reasoning out of you is quite the opposite. I'm not scum - so you think I'm gonna just nod my head and be like "yup thats correct" instead of tell you you're flat out wrong on your points? I'm trying to get you to elaborate and you're just giving these vague nothings that are NAI for me. Of course I'm going to dismiss your points when they aren't really points against me. Try harder.
And I never mentioned you having townreads. I said you don't have many reads at all here - and acknowledged that point was moreso not as relevant.

How about you try engaging me in good faith if you're town? Or are you feeling trapped into tunneling me because you are indeed scum?
-koba

[Guillotina]

I can't read

flea for shit but

I think flea is town for reasons I'm not allowed to explain due to site rules

bullshit. We both know

flea

has

completed games

[Guillotina]

@StuffLion the primary reason I think flea is town is due to something I can't discuss due to site rules.

secondary reason would be like I don't think scum will jump into a possible death cult willy nilly - they tend to be more survivalistic.

[Guillotina]

Spoiler:

You know I get pulled up on "bad faith" a fucking hell of a lot... pisses me off. I literally just do me and frankly that people are using that to disengage me makes me wonder if it's even worth bothering continuing on this site.

I'm just going to drop this.

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

VOTE: KORINA

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

and say Guill has made a point of forming full freaking sentences using quotes so this PR on them is being overplayed.
VOTE: Guillotina[/quote]

I

cannot

post

new

words.

[Guillotina]

scummy IMO, weak vote

I

respect

rules

.

[Guillotina]

scum

thought

they

shut down

Guillotina

LMAO

noobs.

[Guillotina]

completed games

[Guillotina]

Yes G, i'm aware of your "restriction"

but you;re not letting it stop you at all

, even using words from other games to make your points.

[Guillotina]

completed games

idgi

Yes G, i'm aware of your "restriction"

but you;re not letting it stop you at all

, even using words from other games to make your points.

You've proven yourself willing and able to communicate in sentences, you're communicating clearly so the restriction isn't really stopping you, is it.

so your point?

[Guillotina]

completed games

This is an irrelevant distinction.

This is more busywork. He's just making it clear he's following site rules

[Guillotina]

But that was early to mid D1.

Plus no one cares whether or not they are following site rules except for the game mod.

and say Guill has made a point of forming full freaking sentences using quotes so this PR on them is being overplayed.
VOTE: Guillotina

[Guillotina]

completed games

idgi

Yes G, i'm aware of your "restriction"

but you;re not letting it stop you at all

, even using words from other games to make your points.

You've proven yourself willing and able to communicate in sentences, you're communicating clearly so the restriction isn't really stopping you, is it.

so your point?

scum

thought

they

shut down

Guillotina

LMAO

noobs.

What's up guys.

Hard Claim

I'm ascetic

VOTE: Guillotina

so your point?

[Guillotina]

scum

thought

they

shut down

Guillotina

LMAO

noobs.

What's up guys.

Hard Claim

I'm ascetic

VOTE: Guillotina

first post

fake claim

vote

Guillotina

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I do not understand the townreads on dsjstr right now.
-Early posts are just explaining how grand idea works, nothing ai.
-His logic on unwnd makes it look like he either hasn't read or is ignoring what other people have said about the claim.

You scum read me?
You think Unwind is actually telling the truth?

I don't townread you.
Your unwnd logic is that his first post claim doesn't exist, therefore he is scum.

Which both overlooks that scum fakeclaiming seriously probably makes sure their claim exists

and doesn't address the discussed town motivation.

Upon review the part stroke through was never said just implied, which weakens my reasoning.

first post

fake claim also

hard defends

unwnd

believe there is a contradiction

----------------------------------------------

[Guillotina]

VOTE: NDMath

explain

[Guillotina]

Nah, I'm town.

I'm the town counter. (the announcement of how many town are alive is my role) I'm in a neighborhood with NDMath who is confirmed not aligned with the mafia.
We both know we're not aligned with the mafia.

And I haven't been scummy in the slightest in this game.

Confirming this.

My role on the GIM thread made the neighborhood and is why we know we're not mafia.

Posts

8179

,

8180

, and

8181

.
Two town and 1 Sk.

So FBI agents and roleblockers can be on me thanks.



@VaxKiller Can you clarify the definition of multiball you used when saying the setup must be multiball?


VOTE: Jake The Wolfie
I want the alignment claim out of them since we have the power to get that now.

I am in support of hanging unwnd today though, I agree their play and claim are very questionable.
Also, The only ways for bell to be scum are (unless someone CC's town counter)
A. The very tiny chance he got a reverse alignment post during the randing process.
B. He got culted during the night, which is feasible but also unlikely.

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia.

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia.

Informed Neighbor

You have a 24/7 private chat with [player] who you know is not mafia. Other than this,

you are a standard serial killer

wait you WANT to be roleblocked? o.o

If I'm not town

I'm SK.

And I don't have any roleblockable abilities.
So like yes?

I think my logic makes sense?

WIFOM

@Guill, Very confused for a bit, figured it out.

I used the search function, searching up 'Informed Neighbor'.
This highlighted the title removing color. (Even after clicking on the post.)
So it looked like two town and one sk to me, I never doublechecked since why would I need to double check.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348&p=11863100&hi ... #p11863100

Hopefully

this works how I think it does

.

[Guillotina]

town you are.

VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: Vax
VOTE: dsjstr

Neutral

VOTE: Disney Princesses
VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Toogeloo
VOTE: Magnus V

antitown you are.

VOTE: NDMath
VOTE: Particularly Stupid
VOTE: KORINA
VOTE: Pooky
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: Nono
VOTE: Flea

[Guillotina]

ndmath is obviously town and we are not eliminating them thank you go away

[Guillotina]

VOTE: JAKE

[Guillotina]

You mean the cop claim who screwed up their claim? and someone who can't be culted but can;t explain why we have 3 townie deaths and 3 less town players in game instead of 2 less town players?

I adapt my thoughts as we go. this should be more than obvious now. Especially given as I'm now voting outside of that pool...

[Guillotina]

I'm down for shooting Guill at the moment, honestly.

[Guillotina]

Town Bloodhound

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed if that player is

TOWN

or

NOT TOWN

.

Here you go, it's this one

[Guillotina]

2 medals on guillotina

[Guillotina]

reading, update as i go
confused with unwnd,, if memory served, they claimed census taker, was it all a lie?
their "guilty" announcement and then announcing they have questionable sanity is questionable, pointless, even, to bait a roleclaim and roleclaim themselves
bell seems ok,, confident, fast claim

korina's town-claim can be checked tomorrow,, maybe
something something, check numbers to see if existence of a cult is a feasible theory,, tomorrow, of course, so korina has to live

jake is meh
don't get me wrong,, ultra scummy in a vacuum, unsure if that's personality
can be convinced to vote, ngl though

sorry,, was busy
night was depressing,, miss sam, sorry radio
read some, will read the rest soon

Claim town.

;

hardclaim town; to assure you)

lingering suspicions on o7 for lackthereof, and unwnd, maybe

kbai~~~

[Guillotina]

Spiffeh scum claimed tho.

[Guillotina]

Seriously though. Request: Eliminate Disney Princess.

Why are they scum?
Their case on Unwnd was shallow asf.
Spiffeh is actively

thread avoiding

for no reason. 100%

VOTE: Nono

VOTE: Daisy

[Guillotina]

He's posting elsewhere but not here.

outside game information.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Disney

[Guillotina]

UNVOTE:

[Guillotina]

[Guillotina]

I've had it clarified forever ago that it's not against the rules to track thread avoidance as long as I don't specify where they're posting or what they're posting about.

VOTE: Disney

[Guillotina]

town you are.

VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: Vax
VOTE: dsjstr
VOTE: Flea

Neutral

VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Toogeloo
VOTE: Magnus V

antitown you are.

VOTE: NDMath
VOTE: Particularly Stupid

VOTE: Pooky

VOTE: KORINA
VOTE: Jake

VOTE: Disney Princesses
VOTE: Nono

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

VOTE: BELL / VOTE: Unwnd

Spoiler:

Or

Spoiler:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VOTE: NONO

100% not solving.

[Guillotina]

Request to skip Twilight. we don't need it

[Guillotina]

Lol @ how Bell still wants to lim us when Nacho obvtowned Day 1, kind of embarrassing for him if he's Town.

I am just a horrible hydra partner that hasn't read this game since like the first twenty pages, and for that I apologize.

But I probably still won't be reading this game

. I know Nacho was still p. sure unwnd was scum and I never townread him so that is still fine with me.

Hope you're all having fun!

~Spiffy

game coaster

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Disney

Policy eliminate

[Guillotina]

Hey guillotina, What did I do that was so worthy of literally bouncing up from rock bottom of your reads list?

Flashback to

The 2189th Cell Games

Flea The Magician -

Future Trunks, Fighter Time Protector

.

[Guillotina]

don't

skip twilight.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: jake the wolf

[Guillotina]

Alright! That was a nice little challenge reading and casing people with my self-imposed post restriction.

Question. Did I manage to make my points clear with just quoting and that lovely stuffed lion?

[Guillotina]

Are you just bored scum this game or

Nah, just bored.

How about you? I find it strange that you accepted Unwnd's role hunting trick so graciously. If someone made me out my role so early in the game I would be really pissed off, why aren't you?

[Guillotina]

I had scum read flea earlier because they seemed to be trying to pocket me, but then I watched them try to AtE and that lovely OMGUS vote that they always do as town plus a few posts akin to our DBZ game that made me reconsidered my read and put them in my town pile.

[Guillotina]

Alright! That was a nice little challenge reading and casing people with my self-imposed post restriction.

Question. Did I manage to make my points clear with just quoting and that lovely stuffed lion?

are you jealous you dont have jake's jester skills

The way I see it, judging by the posts during this twilight, we are all jesters by heart. The Holocaust one made me chuckle I must admit.

[Guillotina]

I am a cult leader

Then maybe I should confirm that tonight...maybe.

[Guillotina]

join my cult and I'll confirm it for you

I love being town. Thanks very much.

Convert me and I'll out you tomorrow with terrible cultist play.

[Guillotina]

Are you just bored scum this game or

Nah, just bored.

How about you? I find it strange that you accepted Unwnd's role hunting trick so graciously. If someone made me out my role so early in the game I would be really pissed off, why aren't you?

Did you not see me throw a tantrum at Unwnd before cooling off?

In DBZ you had my head for a lot less, I don't see how that Bell just let it go here.

[Guillotina]

This is a voluntary cult, I believe in consent.

Does your cult chop wolves and 3P heads like it was a pinata party?

[Guillotina]

I don't discriminate,

my cult is full of love for everyone

Then I turn down your invitation. I do discriminate

[Guillotina]

Are you just bored scum this game or

Nah, just bored.

How about you? I find it strange that you accepted Unwnd's role hunting trick so graciously. If someone made me out my role so early in the game I would be really pissed off, why aren't you?

Did you not see me throw a tantrum at Unwnd before cooling off?

In DBZ you had my head for a lot less, I don't see how that Bell just let it go here.

Are you really going to compare me being cop guiltied by someone with a role that has multiple insane variations and a tag that says "why kill myself to kill one town"
with me getting a track on you and waffling over your elimination for like forever? I only really became more confident in your elimination there because your claim in the arena was too crazy to be real. That was also I would consider one of my most anemic investigations I've ever pushed.

Fair. What if I told I can confirm you both tonight. In fact I can confirm four. I can resolve your slots plus two more from my PoE.

[Guillotina]

Then I turn down your invitation. I do discriminate

I hope you let love into your heart and join us.

I'm atheist, there is no hope for you here.

[Guillotina]

I'm a 4X Multi Shot cop. I can use all shots at once or one every night, but there is a catch, I must not be visited. Any visit performed on me is counted as a roleblock.

This is what I'm gonna do tonight. I will check

Bell
Unwnd

and two more from my scum list. I will of course not say who the other two are. All I ask you is to not visit me tonight.

[Guillotina]

Either way, I'll catch scum with their pants down or I town confirm several people on Day 3.

[Guillotina]

wonder if i should self impose a restriction; wasn't aware it was a thing

You already do, the one you hide most of the game and dont contribute.

[Guillotina]

Hey govenor, can you move my axe onto Guillotine?

I suspect that's why these damned twilights are so long.

That'd be a shitty role to have, I don't need three days to say what I need to say in less than one.

[Guillotina]

I'm a 4X Multi Shot cop. I can use all shots at once or one every night, but there is a catch, I must not be visited. Any visit performed on me is counted as a roleblock.

This is what I'm gonna do tonight. I will check

Bell
Unwnd

and two more from my scum list. I will of course not say who the other two are. All I ask you is to not visit me tonight.

i just have to post to ask how you could possibly imagine this is ever going to end in you not getting blocked if you're telling the truth.

Because it's in town's best interest I get those green/ red checks

[Guillotina]

ah, i get it, it's a lie. okay, carry on.

That's the best part, it looks like a lie and if I'm lucky wolves won't even bother.

[Guillotina]

If I die, you guys got my legacy.

[Guillotina]

Alright! That was a nice little challenge reading and casing people with my self-imposed post restriction.

Question. Did I manage to make my points clear with just quoting and that lovely stuffed lion?

OK This boob gets investigated, that was freaking anti-town if true and wifom if not.

One, I can't be investigated because I'm the investigator and two, if you visit me you are committing a very anti-town action.

[Guillotina]

If I die, you guys got my legacy.

We don't want a damaged and/or deranged product.

My legacy is for townies not for useless dead jesters.

[Guillotina]

If I die, you guys got my legacy.

We don't want a damaged and/or deranged product.

My legacy is for townies not for useless dead jesters.

If you knew I was a jester, then voting for me was not a smart move on your part.

I didn't know, you claimed it and why not, any anti-town party is scum in my eyes.

[Guillotina]

The bear(lion?) was cool but you spammed the same arms folded reaction image too much. Get a better range of emotions next time

Lol yah, the thing is, i needed everyone to get used to the emotion images. If i came up with 30 of them then there would be more confusion about what emotion/reaction i tried to show.

[Guillotina]

also, "the investigator"?

yeah ok because there cant be multiple... *eyeroll*

I mean i hope there are multiple, nothing like a mechanically townsided game where we can just stomp the wolves with ease right? Fuck balance!

[Guillotina]

We have another claimed investigative. You do know that, right?

Yah, Unwnd. But I don't believe him. Hence why I am investigating him instead. Him and bell.
Imagine if these two came up with a fake red check gambit to get themselves town read.

[Guillotina]

What post restriction should i impose on myself next? (Should I live) hmmmm

[Guillotina]

What post restriction should i impose on myself next? (Should I live) hmmmm

Wear a fedora while writing out every post.

Record yourself speaking and post clips instead of posts.

Act like mafia who's trying to look like a jester but is actually secretly a jester.

I don't think the first and third option will help me keep getting townread though. As for the second one, my latin accent is way too sexy for you lot, I want you focused on the game not on my voice.