Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
I don't care that much since we have a solid townbloc, but it's a little unfair how some of you are bending facts trying to justify weak scumreads. Just say you're townreading the rest of the playerlist more, that's not only more than enough, but something you can't argue against so it makes the game easier-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullet
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
That's the gif that Ali has sent us like every single day/night start except this oneIn post 6574, KidAmn wrote:VOTE: KidAmn
Get me out of here so Nancy has to actually stop and think, thanks.
PEdit: And maybe don't post Pepes thanks.-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Because he's not conftown like the two players I left out of the LyLo pool? This is a PoE listIn post 6581, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Why Dunn?In post 6578, Pink Ball wrote:@Nancy at this point I think the game is already won, but we should have a plan for how you want LyLo to look like.
LyLo pool would be Dunn, KidAmn, clidd, Pyro and me.-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
I do, but if the game's not over after that we need a plan in case we lose our conftown playersIn post 6579, clidd wrote:Don't you think that Kid is the last scum, Pb?-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
It wasn't ordered in any way, it was the five players who aren't conftown, nothing else.In post 6617, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I was more referring to the order. Dunn has a much better ISO than either of those two. I think all 3 of you are town: you/Pyro/Dunn.In post 6613, Pink Ball wrote:
Because he's not conftown like the two players I left out of the LyLo pool? This is a PoE listIn post 6581, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Why Dunn?In post 6578, Pink Ball wrote:@Nancy at this point I think the game is already won, but we should have a plan for how you want LyLo to look like.
LyLo pool would be Dunn, KidAmn, clidd, Pyro and me.
And yes, I do think that if we eventually go to LyLo, those three players are going to be in it, and I'm scared about that 'cause I've been pushing Pyro since forever and I don't know if I'll be able to be fair and re evaluate at that point-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Yeah I'll do that during this phase, good ideaIn post 6627, Pyro wrote:Pink Ball, can you actually go over your theory of why you thought the Battle Mage launch happened because he was sus of me? Can you highlight the posts or things that made you think that was the case?-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
I'm not scumreading him...........In post 6631, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 6265, Fey wrote:I'm saying this more for Pyro's benefit, honestly! I don't want him to get scumread in the game I really, really think he's town.
I'm saying that I'm fucked up if I end up in LyLo and have to choose between them. Like hopefully I have to 1v1 one of them instead but I don't thinkt that would be the case-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Last time I say it: I'm townreading them both. I think scum is between KidAmn and clidd, most likely clidd because of balance, most likely KidAmn because of play. I'm JUST SAYING, that in case they aren't scum, then It'll be a complicated LyLo. I'm NOT SAYING I'm scumreading one of them at the time and I'll end thinking they're both town-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
THAT DOESN'T HELP AT ALL HGAKGJAHRGIn post 6640, Pyro wrote:
I'm also here right now. I lean Dunny as scum over you though ftrIn post 6638, Pink Ball wrote:Last time I say it: I'm townreading them both. I think scum is between KidAmn and clidd, most likely clidd because of balance, most likely KidAmn because of play. I'm JUST SAYING, that in case they aren't scum, then It'll be a complicated LyLo. I'm NOT SAYING I'm scumreading one of them at the time and I'll end thinking they're both town-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Protect the scum, they're probably bus driving themselvesIn post 6681, Morning Tweet wrote:I'm glad this is public info rather than something i need to guess about. Kinda seems like Titus doesn't want us to take Kid out of the PoE, but WIFOM so whatever
That would be a funny plan to have scum!Kid self-vote then proceed to have Titus continue to be concerned with what I'm doing to try to save them from being elimed
So the scumteam is essentially completely immune to our protectives and is also capable of ruining my checker ability
:I-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Just wanted to remind you that I made this post after catching up. I was wrong about WP and Ari (honest mistake since he was a mason) but other than that my reads are anti scum as hell. Read the Sarah's argument, the one I've saying since the start, at a time where Sarah was one of Nancy's protégés, and you'll realize that I simply cannot be scum, and not only that, I've been crushing them one by one.In post 4527, Pink Ball wrote:Morning Tweet
War and Peace
Starcrossed
Fey
Dunnstral
Gamma
Toogeloo
And you're going to fucking hate me for this but
Italiano
5uffering
Yup, I think we're hitting town today.
Biggest scumread is AkAri still so I'm happy my first impression was right
If AkAri flips scum, Sherlock and Watson are scum too.
I want to read Pyro/olaf closer but I think Battle Mage being pushed on D1 to oblivion is more related to his read on Pyro than Noraa's push on him, 'cause Noraa's case was bullshit.
TBD:
Morty and Rick is someone I want to townread but don't want to call a townread before reading his early presence. I would expect Auro to lead the game a little more 'cause he's a pain in the ass as town, we share that trait. I liked what I saw from mastina last time I checked, with the Titus draft analysis. I expect her to approach the game like that to get engaged as either alignment, but the conclusions seemed genuine and not trying to push a rethoric to start aligning miseliminations.
clidd is in my blind spot right now but shouldn't be a problem. I do think that, because of personality traits, Titus would work very well with someone like clidd, but I don't have an in game read right now so I'll leave the speculation for when I actually read clidd's ISO.
I already suggested that there's at least one of Nancy's protégés that will flip scum. Now that I know that Ari is scum I think it could be not one, but two, with Sarah being my best guess. But look at that, it's the word guess! What that does mean? Well, that I have absolutely nothing to back that read up other than disliking the whole "V I B I N G" sharade 'cause it feels like Sarah is just posturing; waited until the game was settled in, saw what Nancy's approach was and began to create the perfect mindmeld with the townstump. Based on the current gamestate where I think we're pushing three town wagons, this is currently a very promising theory, but then again, it depends too much on other slots' reads, so it's not good enough by its own.
And that's the entire list. 9 towns, 3 scums, 3 nulls. Since AkAri is scum and that spews S&W scum, I'll say that if I'm wrong in one of my scumreads, it's olaf. If I'm right about the three of them, I'd tend to think clidd is the last one because hey I'm on a roll so let's keep going and pretend my townreads are all correct and I'm a big star! But if I'm wrong on olaf, which there's a high chance I am, I'd look again in my townreads to see where could I be wrong. The list is in no particular order, I started writting them based on the playerlist on post 0 and then went by memory so it's messy. But I would have to read 5uffering's ISO which is something I've been avoiding to do. Charlie and Snoopy was townie enough to make me believe that there's no need to read his entire ISO, but since I wasn't here early game, it could be me putting too much weight without context/real time reading.
I'm going to sleep now. My next step is making AkAri's scumcase. Thanks to everyone for the 24 hours, now I feel more part of the game and have a better shot of being helpful.
If you still want to end the day by elimming one of Italiano/Gamma/5uffering, by all means, go for it. I don't know who has more chances of being scum of the three of them; I think Italiano's frustration towards Nancy and the other two points I already brought up are good enough to make me think he's town. Although I disagreed at first, I think Toog's point about Gamma is very possibly true: chiming in about Noraa's replacement was impulsive, and keep going for it was prideful, two things I would expect Gamma would try to avoid; I don't remember who said it 'cause I read too damn much right now, but said that Gamma looked like he was trying to be careful about his reads, only commenting on current conversations but not giving insights of his own/scumhunting; well, this impulsiveness is the opposite of that. Then again, that is a valid reason to scumread someone, so now that I'm writting this lines, if you want to go with this PoE, I'd eliminate Gamma ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Charlie and Snoopy had only 15 posts to say what they thought and they are all fully packed with insights, reading the game with a town mindset. My only concern is the lack of an actual vote, 'cause he called out a lot of players for different reasons but didn't stick with any, so it seems like leaving their options open.
So as you can see, I'm not really concerned if you want to flip Gamma/5uffer. I agree with everyone who has said that they could be useful flips. BUT, if you do want to wait to see what I want to say about AkAri, that would be even better! A useful flip that could go either way is still worse than an actual scum flip, even more when, from my perspective, those useful flips, even if useful, are still most likely town.
Once again, thanks for the 24ish hours. Good night. Papa bless.
This is in case Pyro is planning to push me in particular, because the 'I think I know who the last scum is' is the oldest strategy in the book to buy some time and to create expectation, so Pyro, think again who you want to 1v1 on your last day.-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Let's get things straight, Nancy: Krazy stating who should be vigged, gunchecked or whatever is no indicative of anything 'cause there's a bus driver. I don't think you can speculate towards night actions, but rather day actions. And that's why clidd is town, and that's great. But if you want to decide between Dunn and Pyro, I think you can't just call one or the other town or scum because of what Krazy was saying about night actions-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
We don't know what the bus driver did on N2, and my theory is that, if you're scum, you bus drove yourself with AuroIn post 6972, Pyro wrote:Why Pyro can't be scum:
-Would have had to hard bus War and Peace and caused them to be launched
-Would have had to bus Sarah
-Had Sherlock suggest vanilla cop be locked to checking Pyro
-Claimed VT with a known vanilla cop around, and not nightkill that vanilla cop for several nights
Why Dunny can't be scum:
-???-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
I don't think your case is "clearly outlining Dunn as scum", and I'm not jumping over any hurdles to scumread you. My job is to vote one of you two and I have more reasons two townread both of you rather than scumread you, so I need REALLY good reasoning behind a scumread to decide which one of you is the last scum, and that good reasoning will only come from me.In post 6977, Pyro wrote:Pink Ball, you have to jump over all these hurdles to think I'm scum. Why didn't I just claim any old PR while knowing there was a vanilla cop around as the bus driver? Why did I push War and Peace out when Nancy was against it and was going for Toogeloo that day? Why did Sherlock ask me to be vanilla copped?
I understand you have a gut or soulread, but please look at all of the things you have to make explanations for to consider me scum, and apply occam's razor with deadly force.
On the other hand, we have Dunny, who I have very clearly outlined is scum and why with my case. I truly believe all of those reasons are really good and I'm very confident on him being the final scum.-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
That's exactly what I wanted. You need an antagonist.In post 7012, Pyro wrote:Sorry, I don't mean to poke fun at you. I think you handwaiving my case with a single line and then saying you would decide on the elimination today has sent me into a spiral of floof.-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Not the bus driver, but Titus. I don't know what Titus ks doingIn post 7030, Pyro wrote:I don't think most bus drivers carry a trusty revolver for special occasions-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
Yeah that is kinda damningIn post 7052, Pyro wrote:That's a good point though; it was a really flimsy reason for Sherlock to townread Dunny for, simply because he was voting for him and Sherlock WIFOMed "oh, he wouldn't scumread me as scum again"
It's an easy way to townread a partner. Oh, ALSO, Sherlock has like this policy almost where he tends to OMGUS even if he doesn't believe in it for gamestate reasons. The fact he didn't to Dunny is also very telling-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him
-
-
Pink Ball he/himSilver Bullethe/him
- Silver Bullet
- Silver Bullet
- Posts: 9852
- Joined: December 15, 2018
- Pronoun: he/him