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I'm down.In post 24, Ydrasse wrote:
let's do 50In post 18, fireisredsir wrote:bc this game doesn't have a postcap and larges can sometimes get kinda miserable without one, if d1 starts to get close to like idk 80-100 pages i suggest we simply yeet someone
who wants to join me on this mission
we need 10 more to sign the pact
VOTE: ausuka-
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If I understand this right, if we put in 50% productivity then we'll regain 50% back, keeping us at 100% productivity for the next day. Is there any reason that VTs and anyone with abilities that cost 50% or less shouldn't always put in at least 50%?In post 2, Datisi wrote:2. using town power roles:
~ during each day, each member of the town may choose how productive they're going to be at work that day, ranging from 0% to 100%.
~ if they do not submit anything, they will default to 100% productivity.
~ at the start of each night, each town member will gain [100% minus their productivity that day] productivity percentage points.
~ for example, if they were 75% productive on d1, they will gain 25% productivity percentage points at the start of n1.
~ in order to use their power role, they must have the needed number of productivity percentage points, as said in their role pm.
~ productivity percentage points do not have to be used immediately, and they do not disappear if not used immediately.-
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Don't really know how to respond to this. I know you do vibe reads, but you've never scum read me correctly by doing that. Besides, any info you may have on me is outdated and doesn't really apply to my playstyle any more, for various reasons I don't really want to get into right now.In post 70, mastina wrote:
No, because I've played with Roden enough to know that this isn’t Rodens towngame.In post 49, Andresvmb wrote:
Because they didn’t read carefully enough?In post 48, mastina wrote:Btw Roden is scum here pretty sure.
Btw I’m rusty since I haven’t played in 4 months, so bear with me.
Roden is also not likely to genuinely make the mistake as town.
Beyond that, the contribution is generically a scum one regardless of the above.
My issue is that you're stubborn and very unlikely to change your reads, and will keep pushing based on your initial vibes. I don't know how to engage with you here.-
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I think a town PR limit that, when surpassed, grants scum up to two extra kills with built in Multitasking is very pro-scum. At least when compared to more typical limiters like modifiers.In post 303, Something_Smart wrote:The extra mechanic is not pro-scum. It limits the usability of town PR's, but in a way that's entirely in town's control.-
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In post 362, petapan wrote:
i think titus is howling about as hard as someone can for less than 24 hours into day 1 but you do youIn post 359, RCEnigma wrote:From the last 4ish pages, Titus +Town and PP +town. Everyone choosing to engage and re-engage the 4 scum/5 scum discussion tanking. Also hate the Titus vote timings. (As in the votes on Titus not the slot of Titus voting.)
I wouldn't say she's necessarily weird as town, I'd describe her more as rabid and paranoid. Like either very hot or very cold with her read accuracy, and when she's cold she stands out a lot more.In post 371, petapan wrote:
someone will leap to titus's defense sayin she's weird as town which is generally true but kind of evades the task of actually evaluating herIn post 369, Ydrasse wrote:titus calling me town from vca IS pretty weird
i just don't buy a post like 221
I don't think she's scum atm, I feel like she's more likely to town read me (and really any one else who awkwardly stands out) instead of scum reading me. At least early on to build trust.-
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Vibing with this. It's just a reasonable take.In post 353, petapan wrote:the accusation of someone being frozen for not posting within a 19 hour window is pretty lulzy
this isn't fucking mafia universe and i'm grateful for that
(this is not implying a read on ircher ftr)
Not vibing with this though.In post 409, Uncrowned wrote:roden has gone missing ever since he stopped getting questioned for the mech mistake stuff
you got any actual input now or are you just here to defend yourself when you get sussed
I don't think I was gone all that long? I went to bed then went to work when I woke up. And I've been keeping up with the thread and responding to stuff and giving my thoughts. What gave you the impression otherwise?-
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*raises hand*In post 445, Uncrowned wrote:who has experience playing with Mr vivax
He obfuscates his thoughts a lot, I wouldn't call it a gimmick but it definitely sticks out as a playstyle. He's had really solid reads in past games from what I've seen and picks up the slack in the back half of a game.-
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Uh. Ok.
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Proved you right...? Can you walk me through this one? I don't see the issue with 432.In post 478, Uncrowned wrote:In post 474, Roden wrote:
Vibing with this. It's just a reasonable take.In post 353, petapan wrote:the accusation of someone being frozen for not posting within a 19 hour window is pretty lulzy
this isn't fucking mafia universe and i'm grateful for that
(this is not implying a read on ircher ftr)
Not vibing with this though.In post 409, Uncrowned wrote:roden has gone missing ever since he stopped getting questioned for the mech mistake stuff
you got any actual input now or are you just here to defend yourself when you get sussed
I don't think I was gone all that long? I went to bed then went to work when I woke up. And I've been keeping up with the thread and responding to stuff and giving my thoughts. What gave you the impression otherwise?
funnily enough after calling you out i remember thinking "hm maybe that was a bit hasty" but then straight after with your very next post you proved me right and went straight back to mech talk in 432 lolIn post 432, Roden wrote:I think I agree with Penguin 100% here about set up balances. Feels kinda weird, I'm usually neutral at best with him.
?In post 480, Uncrowned wrote:and your thoughts prior to this recent posting you've just done were all setup/mech related, so there's not really much to 'vibe' with it's just facts
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If anyone had jumped on you for it I'd likely town read them for it. It was telegraphed enough that scum would consciously avoid mentioning it, imo.In post 522, Nero Cain wrote:although I feel like I wasn't beingTHATtrolly. Like my votes and fake daykill was how I felt and who I thought were scummy so was I really trolling that much? I get that my troll game needs works but I don't think I was being some unreadable void and I think that's kind of an ass stance.
Maybe I should have kept it going just to see who jumped on me or what happened.-
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I think the chances of a successful wagon would be pretty slim exactly for the reason I gave.In post 529, Nero Cain wrote:idk Roden, it's an ez thing to hang your hat on. Sure, there are going to call it out but I don't think scum would be immune from riding the Nero train if they felt like I was a viable wagon-
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That's a simplified and not really accurate summary of those posts. You claimed all I talked about was mech, which is factually wrong. It's ok to say you just misremembered my posts.In post 531, Uncrowned wrote:12 is rvs and the others were you defending yourself which was also what I referenced in my original post about you
and 432 had nothing inherently wrong with it it's just you went back to referring to something about setup which I found funny
You seemed to imply 432 had something wrong with it, you said I "proved you right" and you still seem to want to run me up. Talk to me about it.-
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I'm a Mailman with a modifier. I sent him a message asking for advice on how to effectively play my role, and let him know I chose him since I believed he would be the most likely person to give solid advice regardless of his own alignment or his read on me.In post 1037, furtiveglance wrote:
Pray continue....In post 1036, Roden wrote:Wow, that's really annoying. I targeted Peta last night.-
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Oh and PR name is FlirtIn post 1042, Roden wrote:
I'm a Mailman with a modifier. I sent him a message asking for advice on how to effectively play my role, and let him know I chose him since I believed he would be the most likely person to give solid advice regardless of his own alignment or his read on me.In post 1037, furtiveglance wrote:
Pray continue....In post 1036, Roden wrote:Wow, that's really annoying. I targeted Peta last night.-
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Ircher's role was pretty weak, and tbh Ircher gets run up D1 almost every game I play with him regardless of his alignment. I don't think he got hard bussed by his entire team, but I don't think they had much incentive to try to save him either. Best play for scum is for them to avoid being associated with Ircher at all IMO.In post 1052, Andresvmb wrote:Titus could have been bussing but you would have to think they were on top of Ircher’s case very aggressively and maybe? It’s possible the Scum decided to take alternative tracks in order to not all get lumped together, but I seriously doubt all of the Scum bailed on Ircher immediately.-
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It's tiered, if I don't use my modifier it only costs 5%. That's the version I went with since I didn't find the modifier useful last night.In post 1053, furtiveglance wrote:
Mailman does seem insanely useless.....Roden, why bother?In post 1047, Ausuka wrote:hi uh I would like to as a PSA reminder that using full productivity is an useful night action and something every PR should consider especially if they kinda suck thanks-
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In post 1067, mastina wrote:
Btw there's actually TWO reasons for why I think that this is a scumclaim from Roden, maybe 3.In post 1042, Roden wrote:
I'm a Mailman with a modifier. I sent him a message asking for advice on how to effectively play my role, and let him know I chose him since I believed he would be the most likely person to give solid advice regardless of his own alignment or his read on me.In post 1037, furtiveglance wrote:
Pray continue....In post 1036, Roden wrote:Wow, that's really annoying. I targeted Peta last night.
jjh can probably get 1-2 of them, small outside chance of all 3.
But,
VOTE: Roden
Roden is effectively confscum with that claim.In post 1069, mastina wrote:I don’t see myself ever pivoting off of Roden.
Roden was already scum by play to me, but that claim was 200% damning in ways that Roden couldn't even know.
If we wanna go 2 for 2 on scum eliminations, y'all should be voting for Roden today.
Feel free to state these reasons, thanks.In post 1119, mastina wrote:
Explicitly so, yes, for multiple reasons.In post 1071, Something_Smart wrote:
It's independently a pretty sketchy claim. But do you think scum would have Ircher's role and that?In post 1067, mastina wrote:Btw there's actually TWO reasons for why I think that this is a scumclaim from Roden, maybe 3.-
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I think any scum who joined the Ircher wagon would do so nonchalantly, the slip would've panicked the scum team and they wouldn't be sure whether or not Ircher could get away with it in the moment. The pile up happened so quickly that scum would most likely feel too self-conscious to make a big deal out of it or make a hard push, in fear of coming off as informed.In post 1060, Andresvmb wrote:@Roden yeah maybe. But you also have to make a decision as Scum. Either you push Ircher right then and there about a potential slip that Ircher may be able to get away from (I didn’t find the “slip” killer, the freezing is what did Ircher in), or you hold off, and you position yourself around the flip that started seeming more and more inevitable as the day went on. Look at Vivax’s play and tell me that’s not what you see.
Look Vivax could have just been wrong and Town that’s always possible. But they were definitely the one player I thought was the Scummiest yesterday. It’s hard for me to look away right now.
If I had to guess, I'd say two scum on wagon, one scum off.-
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I just send a message to someone and they are told that it came from me, that's pretty much it. It isn't called Mailman, the actual name is Flirt, but it's essentially just the same as the Mailman role.In post 1127, jjh927 wrote:I think at least 1 of Mastina's points relates to the specific implementation of the role, so it would be wise for you to state exactly what mailman means in the context of this game-
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In post 1130, Andresvmb wrote:
This does not at all square with your vote on Titus. Like not the least bit. Do you not see the inconsistency? Why aren’t you pressuring RCEnigma then?In post 1129, Roden wrote:
I think any scum who joined the Ircher wagon would do so nonchalantly, the slip would've panicked the scum team and they wouldn't be sure whether or not Ircher could get away with it in the moment. The pile up happened so quickly that scum would most likely feel too self-conscious to make a big deal out of it or make a hard push, in fear of coming off as informed.In post 1060, Andresvmb wrote:@Roden yeah maybe. But you also have to make a decision as Scum. Either you push Ircher right then and there about a potential slip that Ircher may be able to get away from (I didn’t find the “slip” killer, the freezing is what did Ircher in), or you hold off, and you position yourself around the flip that started seeming more and more inevitable as the day went on. Look at Vivax’s play and tell me that’s not what you see.
Look Vivax could have just been wrong and Town that’s always possible. But they were definitely the one player I thought was the Scummiest yesterday. It’s hard for me to look away right now.
If I had to guess, I'd say two scum on wagon, one scum off.In post 1039, Roden wrote:VOTE: Titus
Titus has the greatest motivation to kill Peta ASAP despite the scum reads going his way yesterday.-
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I left it up to Peta on whether he openly addressed it or not.In post 1134, jjh927 wrote:
How were you expecting to get an answer on how best to use your role?In post 1131, Roden wrote:
I just send a message to someone and they are told that it came from me, that's pretty much it. It isn't called Mailman, the actual name is Flirt, but it's essentially just the same as the Mailman role.In post 1127, jjh927 wrote:I think at least 1 of Mastina's points relates to the specific implementation of the role, so it would be wise for you to state exactly what mailman means in the context of this game-
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I'm voting Titus because it's a read on how she plays the game as scum. She kills threats and stays low key. I can scum read her independently of how I think the scum team played around Ircher's slip. If you think that's a scummy thought process then you're gonna have to explain why because I don't get it.In post 1136, Andresvmb wrote:You’re using the NK to justify your vote, which is always suspect (it’s like you haven’t even considered that Scum make kills to confuse / frame the Town). But the single most important way you’re pointing to for identifying Scum in the game from day play conflicts directly with that vote. The fact that you’re not even acknowledging that is bizarre.-
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Because I think you're town and a bigger asset for town than I am going forward. I also want to take the wind out of her sails with my flip without wasting a Day phase vote.In post 1138, Lukewarm wrote:
What?In post 1135, Roden wrote:@Vivax:I'd prefer if you shot me over Luke tonight so that Mastina can't hide behind her fake scum read on me all game.
Why would Mastinas read on either of us matter for his vig kill, and in case you missed it I am her second strongest scum read, so that seems to be of little difference lol
What else did you want to know?In post 1143, jjh927 wrote:Yeah I was hoping for some elaboration without specifically asking for elaboration as I was in fact fully aware of that post but oh well
They certainly exist in this game, but I don't feel particularly strong about them one way or the other. Nothing really sticks out as scummy, there were a couple posts I liked though. I can run through their ISO really quick to find them.In post 1144, jjh927 wrote:
Interesting line of thought.In post 1129, Roden wrote:
I think any scum who joined the Ircher wagon would do so nonchalantly, the slip would've panicked the scum team and they wouldn't be sure whether or not Ircher could get away with it in the moment. The pile up happened so quickly that scum would most likely feel too self-conscious to make a big deal out of it or make a hard push, in fear of coming off as informed.In post 1060, Andresvmb wrote:@Roden yeah maybe. But you also have to make a decision as Scum. Either you push Ircher right then and there about a potential slip that Ircher may be able to get away from (I didn’t find the “slip” killer, the freezing is what did Ircher in), or you hold off, and you position yourself around the flip that started seeming more and more inevitable as the day went on. Look at Vivax’s play and tell me that’s not what you see.
Look Vivax could have just been wrong and Town that’s always possible. But they were definitely the one player I thought was the Scummiest yesterday. It’s hard for me to look away right now.
If I had to guess, I'd say two scum on wagon, one scum off.
What is your take on Klick right now-
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Where's the scum power if two of them have useless roles?In post 1150, jjh927 wrote:
-General setup design. Don't assume scum won't have two roles of similar nature or sometimes you will be wrong.In post 1146, Something_Smart wrote:
Share with the class?In post 1119, mastina wrote:Explicitly so, yes, for multiple reasons.
-A traffic analyst flipped. A percentage of scum having communication built into their actual role makes the guilties there more deniable, and makes the TA be more of an inno-hunting role.-
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Where were you when I made the same case earlier?In post 1166, jjh927 wrote:Roden wrote:
Where's the scum power if two of them have useless roles?In post 1150, jjh927 wrote:
-General setup design. Don't assume scum won't have two roles of similar nature or sometimes you will be wrong.In post 1146, Something_Smart wrote:
Share with the class?In post 1119, mastina wrote:Explicitly so, yes, for multiple reasons.
-A traffic analyst flipped. A percentage of scum having communication built into their actual role makes the guilties there more deniable, and makes the TA be more of an inno-hunting role.In post 2, Datisi wrote:~ if the average is lower than 75% and not lower than 50%, the mafia gets one extra kill to use that night.
~ if the average is lower than 50% and not lower than 25%, the mafia gets two extra kills to use that night.
~ if the average is lower than 25%, the mafia gets three extra kills to use that night.
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I think a town PR limit that, when surpassed, grants scum up to two extra kills with built in Multitasking is very pro-scum. At least when compared to more typical limiters like modifiers.In post 303, Something_Smart wrote:The extra mechanic is not pro-scum. It limits the usability of town PR's, but in a way that's entirely in town's control.-
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The thing is that I wouldn't question you on that. I don't think it's odd to have conflicting scum reads, or have a specific scum read as an exception to how one thinks scum would play.In post 1177, Andresvmb wrote:
I didn’t call it Scummy I called it odd.In post 1148, Roden wrote:
I'm voting Titus because it's a read on how she plays the game as scum. She kills threats and stays low key. I can scum read her independently of how I think the scum team played around Ircher's slip. If you think that's a scummy thought process then you're gonna have to explain why because I don't get it.In post 1136, Andresvmb wrote:You’re using the NK to justify your vote, which is always suspect (it’s like you haven’t even considered that Scum make kills to confuse / frame the Town). But the single most important way you’re pointing to for identifying Scum in the game from day play conflicts directly with that vote. The fact that you’re not even acknowledging that is bizarre.
Imagine I said that I think Scum went out of their way to defend Ircher. And then I voted Titus. And when you asked me why, I made the NK argument you made. I would fully expect for you to ask me well, Titus actively attacked Ircher the entire time. Doesn’t that give you pause? Wouldn’t that contradict what you’re saying is the main reason to suspect someone to be Scum? That’s more where I’m coming from. Not being consistent with your thought process isn’t Scum indicative actually. At least I don’t think so.
And I figured you saw the thought process as scummy because you were voting me. I don't think you voted me just because you think I'm odd.-
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I think it's a little out of place for them to suggest that because Ircher's wagon didn't hit a lull that it implies it wasn't a mis-elim wagon, when there wasn't really a chance for it to hit a lull in the first place. The focus on the Ydrasse wagon also feels weird, it was obvious the votes were just leftover from RVS. The vote on me is just kind of whatever though, like I thought it was weird when it happened since they seemed confident that Ircher was scum, and pressuring a low activity player is baseline scum play. But they aren't on my radar atm.In post 1190, Andresvmb wrote:
I was trying to put a vote down based on what someone who seems to have a better grasp on the game is voting (I think mastina is Town?). I haven’t actually myself figured out who I think is most likely to be Scum.In post 1180, Roden wrote:
The thing is that I wouldn't question you on that. I don't think it's odd to have conflicting scum reads, or have a specific scum read as an exception to how one thinks scum would play.In post 1177, Andresvmb wrote:
I didn’t call it Scummy I called it odd.In post 1148, Roden wrote:
I'm voting Titus because it's a read on how she plays the game as scum. She kills threats and stays low key. I can scum read her independently of how I think the scum team played around Ircher's slip. If you think that's a scummy thought process then you're gonna have to explain why because I don't get it.In post 1136, Andresvmb wrote:You’re using the NK to justify your vote, which is always suspect (it’s like you haven’t even considered that Scum make kills to confuse / frame the Town). But the single most important way you’re pointing to for identifying Scum in the game from day play conflicts directly with that vote. The fact that you’re not even acknowledging that is bizarre.
Imagine I said that I think Scum went out of their way to defend Ircher. And then I voted Titus. And when you asked me why, I made the NK argument you made. I would fully expect for you to ask me well, Titus actively attacked Ircher the entire time. Doesn’t that give you pause? Wouldn’t that contradict what you’re saying is the main reason to suspect someone to be Scum? That’s more where I’m coming from. Not being consistent with your thought process isn’t Scum indicative actually. At least I don’t think so.
And I figured you saw the thought process as scummy because you were voting me. I don't think you voted me just because you think I'm odd.
I haven’t been historically able to read Titus properly. I think your points aren’t totally silly. I think if the Scum had two shots, shooting petapan who seemed to have a magnifying glass aimed at Titus makes a lot of sense.
Also, what do you make of 468 through 470 from Uncrowned? This is why I think it’s possible they’re Scum (if I had to summarize it).-
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This...didn't explain anything? Like at all.In post 1215, mastina wrote:
Well for a start.In post 1125, Roden wrote:Feel free to state these reasons, thanks.
There is a big major issue with this.In post 1001, Datisi wrote:
But beyond that, ~role reasons~ (multiple), ~setup reasons~ (multiple), and play.-
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...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?-
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In post 1255, Ausuka wrote:ok yeah you have to be scum
Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of hereIn post 1256, Ausuka wrote:
Roden is talking as if his role PM looks something like thisIn post 1003, Datisi wrote:
If it did, I mean, why not use your ability?
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me-
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I already did........In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?In post 1254, Roden wrote:
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?-
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Why...do I bring up my role or how useless it is then? Like, willingly, as scum, unprompted?In post 1270, Lukewarm wrote:
She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.-
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Because I targeted someone who died and you literally asked me to clarify?In post 1275, furtiveglance wrote:
Ok but why did you bring it up?In post 1274, Roden wrote:
Why...do I bring up my role or how useless it is then? Like, willingly, as scum, unprompted?In post 1270, Lukewarm wrote:
She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.-
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Why would I think Peta would back me up??In post 1282, furtiveglance wrote:
I asked you to clarify, after you already let the cat out of the bag. That doesn't mean I asked you whether or not you had a cat, and to release it if you did have one. Were you planning on Petapan backing you up? Why should they, your role could be mafia.In post 1277, Roden wrote:
Because I targeted someone who died and you literally asked me to clarify?In post 1275, furtiveglance wrote:
Ok but why did you bring it up?In post 1274, Roden wrote:
Why...do I bring up my role or how useless it is then? Like, willingly, as scum, unprompted?In post 1270, Lukewarm wrote:
She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.-
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Scum responseIn post 1284, Ausuka wrote:I am hoping she has an extremely good reason for doing so-
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In post 1287, furtiveglance wrote:
I thought the implication was that you anticipated some pressure today, saw that the other player who could attest to your role was dead and decided to claim your role.In post 1285, Roden wrote:
Why would I think Peta would back me up??In post 1282, furtiveglance wrote:
I asked you to clarify, after you already let the cat out of the bag. That doesn't mean I asked you whether or not you had a cat, and to release it if you did have one. Were you planning on Petapan backing you up? Why should they, your role could be mafia.In post 1277, Roden wrote:
Because I targeted someone who died and you literally asked me to clarify?In post 1275, furtiveglance wrote:
Ok but why did you bring it up?In post 1274, Roden wrote:
Why...do I bring up my role or how useless it is then? Like, willingly, as scum, unprompted?In post 1270, Lukewarm wrote:
She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.In post 1279, Roden wrote:If I got seen by a Tracker or Watcher it's a better play for town to just say I targeted someone who died than to let a town PR potentially out themself with a false guilty-
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-5% is scummyIn post 1289, Ausuka wrote:
LolIn post 1288, Roden wrote:
Scum responseIn post 1284, Ausuka wrote:I am hoping she has an extremely good reason for doing so
-100% earns a shrug
That's not a townie thought process-
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I don't think she's questioning me at all. It's busy work with clear intent to get me with a "gotcha" moment without doing anything to actually solve me or try to read me.In post 1294, Lukewarm wrote:For what its worth Roden, I feel like the way that Ausuka has been questioning you looks townie, even if she is wrong.-
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In post 1296, Ausuka wrote:
Yeah I mean I'm just voting him because I think he's been scummy now which is also the reason I did it in the first place soIn post 1291, Lukewarm wrote:
I understand your point. Running that role at 100% productivity is probably optimal.In post 1281, Ausuka wrote:I guess it doesn't matter that much but I just fundamentally disagree with this line of thinking. Sure you might not individually make much difference but cumulatively people thinking this way can absolutely give mafia free kills
But I also don't think that it is unreasonable for him to have come to the conclusion that his own 5% didn't matter because it was so low.
I mean you pretty much said here you just voted me to get a full claimIn post 1237, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: Roden
I think this is also a good wagon and would like to see a full claim here
You never mention me before that vote-
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I don't understand why you're arguing the logistics of using a 5% ability then.In post 1298, Ausuka wrote:
After I realised you used the 5% version I haven't called it scummy onceIn post 1293, Roden wrote:
-5% is scummyIn post 1289, Ausuka wrote:
LolIn post 1288, Roden wrote:
Scum responseIn post 1284, Ausuka wrote:I am hoping she has an extremely good reason for doing so
-100% earns a shrug
That's not a townie thought process-
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The reason you gave for voting me was that you wanted a full claim. You didn't mention anything about your read on me or what you found scummy.In post 1301, Ausuka wrote:I mean I haven't been that talkative in general, I do think your d1 was scummy and that was the main reason I voted-
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I really don't think it's impossible for scum to fake a reason to scum read someoneIn post 1305, Lukewarm wrote:
I disagree :shrug:In post 1297, Roden wrote:
I don't think she's questioning me at all. It's busy work with clear intent to get me with a "gotcha" moment without doing anything to actually solve me or try to read me.In post 1294, Lukewarm wrote:For what its worth Roden, I feel like the way that Ausuka has been questioning you looks townie, even if she is wrong.
I think that her posts about you make more sense if she is town.
Scum know that you are telling the truth about your percentage points, and as such I don't think that "Roden is posting like his role does not have a percentage point requirement" - is an angle that scum would be as likely to come up with naturally.
So, I think that she is town who thinks that you are scum.-
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What stops her from doing that?In post 1310, Lukewarm wrote:
That is not what I said.In post 1307, Roden wrote:I really don't think it's impossible for scum to fake a reason to scum read someone
My point is that if she is scum, faking a reason to scum read you, I don't think that that is the reason she would have come up with.-
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Keep reading, I already addressed my read on you.In post 1475, Titus wrote:
Absolutely bullshit. You've seen me play as scum. I almostIn post 1058, Roden wrote:
Ircher's role was pretty weak, and tbh Ircher gets run up D1 almost every game I play with him regardless of his alignment. I don't think he got hard bussed by his entire team, but I don't think they had much incentive to try to save him either. Best play for scum is for them to avoid being associated with Ircher at all IMO.In post 1052, Andresvmb wrote:Titus could have been bussing but you would have to think they were on top of Ircher’s case very aggressively and maybe? It’s possible the Scum decided to take alternative tracks in order to not all get lumped together, but I seriously doubt all of the Scum bailed on Ircher immediately.neveravoid my partners. I never avoid the major wagons. Ircher being run up every game is an easy thing to defend and I could have easily talked Ircher out of the noose and coached him. Ircher, being a less active poster, would be easy to Cyrano.
You'd be familiar with my scumgame but instead you're trying to push me because I was right and you're scared.-
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