New Year Dance Party [afterparty]

[Ydrasse]

yassing so hard at a dance game

[Ydrasse]

tch... all these ladies and their energy... don’t they know gentlemen want someone who pretends to not want them!?

[Ydrasse]

hellooo ladies!

you’ve finally returned home after all these years...

[Ydrasse]

it's like doki doki literature club in here

Remember gentlemen.

Just Shirou

.

Okie?

tch... all these ladies and their energy... don’t they know gentlemen want someone who pretends to not want them!?

Oh My...Oh Dear. Seems like there's a lady that doesn't truly understand a gentleman's heart here.

What gentlemen truly want is a pixie maniac girl that loves they unconditionally...like

me

, you know?

baka! you can’t show them how you really feel, or else they’ll just leave!

[Ydrasse]

are we gonna do the thing this game when gl pairs where we dont talk about his partner until post-intermission

[Ydrasse]

are we gonna do the thing this game when gl pairs where we dont talk about his partner until post-intermission

goose on the loose

duck out to fuck

[Ydrasse]

it's probably best to let everyone do their own thing and then if gl wants just have him demand "offer to pair with me" and if the gent is reticent go from there

[Ydrasse]

ok quick question; to what extent are we like, taking this seriously

i kind of took this as a 'meme with friends' game

I Love Dance Games.

[Ydrasse]

>.> if we wanted to speedrun why didnt the marathon game take off!!!!!!!!

[Ydrasse]

help lmao

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: ausuka

[Ydrasse]

a dance within a dance a la conspiracy

[Ydrasse]

the best mechanics is to have fun and do a silly little dance (:

[Ydrasse]

i dont think dance games are games that have a lot of useful mechanics so i think that the best thing to do is try to pair with town which is like lol duh
there's some stuff around the ic and who they should pair with/how we treat their dance partner too but thats not like set in stone best ev
so pick someone u like and will vibe with and can solve (and solve with)

[Ydrasse]

missed restocking a Kacheek Pyjama Slippers to post that

malice

[Ydrasse]

i dont think dance games are games that have a lot of useful mechanics so i think that the best thing to do is try to pair with town which is like lol duh
there's some stuff around the ic and who they should pair with/how we treat their dance partner too but thats not like set in stone best ev
so pick someone u like and will vibe with and can solve (and solve with)

or just dance with scum and yeet them

make them dance together and point and laugh like theyre at the kids table at the adult party

[Ydrasse]

if no one asks me this game im going to have a joker moment

[Ydrasse]

I mean the fact you replace in and post that as your opening.
I feel is a good look.

Y

[Ydrasse]

In post 89, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE: ausuka

Oh no Ydrasse...why must you break my heart like this? You aren't even a gentlemen to have the right to do that...

I was planning to have at least 10 pages of roleplaying before playing this pesky game called "mafia" you know?

such an airhead... can't even face reality... they know what we're here for, right...? even if i want to dance with -- no, no i don't want to dance with him, ugh!

[Ydrasse]

i refuse to let anyone into my heart!

[Ydrasse]

In post 141, Ydrasse wrote:
i refuse to let anyone into my heart!

Playing hard to get...how cute. It's a shame I'm a lady this time around.

I'm not a vampire so as a gentleman I wouldn't feel the need to ask for your permission or keys to open that locked door you know?

[Ydrasse]

Someone please tell me if anything restocks in the food, clothing and magic shop on neopets while i step away im so afraid im going to miss a morphing potion i could sell for 5mil

[Ydrasse]

oh thank god the shops all cleared while i got up....

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

so as i was waiting for this game to start i was thinking:
Who on the ladies list did i want to pair with.

I planned to use this opportunity of being a gent with more ladies than guys, to use my ability to pick a lady who was scummy. As I plan to do the ultimate scum move of and leaving a girl at the dance. Very rude of me i know, but i kind of have rep for doing this.

So dancing with me is dangerous. U most likely would die..

So my initial thoughts on dancing with people before this game started-
Ydra: ehhhh killing scum ydra might be fun, but also for ~reasons~ probably don't want to dance with her
GL: I have to be very certain of GL scum if im going to pair with him to kill him. Him being IC basically takes him off my dance list.
Irrel - Who this?
SirCakez - Might be a good choice since everyone has trouble reading Cakez
VPB - It would be fun killing scum VPB. But also damaging to town if he town.
Shirou - if paired probably would meme alot with until eventually leaving. Also i think im always inclined to townread Shirou? Strong player would also want to be more careful so maybe not dance with? Don't want to be killing town Shirou
Ausuka - scum ausuka dangerous. Might be a good person to take out
Aristeia - No very strong feelings on.
ENchant - I would put enchant in same bucket as Cakez

BOOOOOO

[Ydrasse]

I mean the fact you replace in and post that as your opening.
I feel is a good look.

Y

@drapion did i miss why

[Ydrasse]

ydra just mad cuz i rejected her before she asked me to dance

this is why i can't let anyone in... everyone always hurts me...

[Ydrasse]

I mean the fact you replace in and post that as your opening.
I feel is a good look.

Y

@drapion did i miss why

They recently got it and had that all planned and typed up.
I feel it’s a good entrance and definitely took some time to make it.
I suppose could still be a wolf but I think them making that upon a replace in is Rand Town.

I also feel they have a Playstyle that I can talk with and I can figure out if they are town or not.
Currently I think they are town, I want to see how it progresses so I made the first move and asked them to dance.

ok U are not ignoring it thank u

why do you think its towny for rep in specifically
also y dont u like meuh you said their tactic was interesting but thats not really a condemning word

[Ydrasse]

I feel excluded

[Ydrasse]

desperate scum

?

[Ydrasse]

I feel excluded

Yeah.
I’m looking for someone I know can always be around to talk in Lovers PT.

We r not compatible then i disappear for hours to play wow and neopets

[Ydrasse]

why would scum be desperate on page 9 is me question

[Ydrasse]

I would like to dance with either Dragons or one of the Fires

u dance with me. Ur confirmed going to die.
Did u read my post

I skimmed a bit

I think its more important to have fun while you're alive than worry about how you will die.

also kind of makes you an easy read - if you don't leave me, you're mafia

Actually, you I could work with too.
I’ll force a Race.

Arieteia

will you take this dance?

accept

LOVE WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ydrasse]

I mean the fact you replace in and post that as your opening.
I feel is a good look.

Y

@drapion did i miss why

They recently got it and had that all planned and typed up.
I feel it’s a good entrance and definitely took some time to make it.
I suppose could still be a wolf but I think them making that upon a replace in is Rand Town.

I also feel they have a Playstyle that I can talk with and I can figure out if they are town or not.
Currently I think they are town, I want to see how it progresses so I made the first move and asked them to dance.

ok U are not ignoring it thank u

why do you think its towny for rep in specifically
also y dont u like meuh you said their tactic was interesting but thats not really a condemning word

iim in a mood where i need instant answrs or i die

[Ydrasse]

yasssss pagetop

[Ydrasse]

desperate scum

?

There is 8 Gents and 9 Ladies.

I don’t die today if I was scum.

I'm aware
That's what I thought

initially

But why desperate this early on tho

[Ydrasse]

yasssss pagetop

can't spell ydrasse without yass

so true!

[Ydrasse]

desperate scum

?

There is 8 Gents and 9 Ladies.

I don’t die today if I was scum.

I'm aware
That's what I thought

initially

But why desperate this early on tho

[Ydrasse]

desperate scum

?

There is 8 Gents and 9 Ladies.

I don’t die today if I was scum.

I'm aware
That's what I thought

initially

But why desperate this early on tho

Why not, I could see Prof be paranoia fueled enough for it

???

[Ydrasse]

could that... be me one day...? no, no i can't!

[Ydrasse]

i have no idea what he's talking about!

[Ydrasse]

i think a dance with ydra has the best chance of a good music selection

all ive been listening to is deftones
after a year of refusing to

[Ydrasse]

the silence

[Ydrasse]

is this cute

[Ydrasse]

Dating app.mafia???

average mafia website

[Ydrasse]

why doesnt anyone like MY RUKI

[Ydrasse]

i wanna dance with midwaybear because we were robbed once

[Ydrasse]

I have feeling i will be left out.

no me

[Ydrasse]

ME ENCHANT

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse, would you like to dance?

VOTE: i accept

sorry enchant i lied its going to be you

[Ydrasse]

it's not like i like fire or anything >_<

[Ydrasse]

NOT A SLEEPING AT LAST SONG

[Ydrasse]

ok I'm kinda a bit kerfluffled at the fact that a lot of people don't really seem to care who I wind up pairing with? kinda surprised I didn't have more suitors

i think this game is a lot less serious than the other plist

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

im going to leave fire first

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

im going to leave fire first

Spoiler:

no you hang up first!!

Spoiler:

[Ydrasse]

scum would never pair with an ic
surely

[Ydrasse]

would be absolutely silly for scum to pair with an ic...

[Ydrasse]

erm idk if most of it is memes half the game is paired

[Ydrasse]

mmMMMMmmmmMMmMMMmmm

[Ydrasse]

I do not think 447 is even remotely good faith and am actively scumreading Shiro now

Although the setup means that doesn't really matter so lole

w
what

[Ydrasse]

atp shirou is a lady so if you actively sr there you can campaign for him not to be matched ._.

[Ydrasse]

I do not think 447 is even remotely good faith and am actively scumreading Shiro now

Although the setup means that doesn't really matter so lole

atp shirou is a lady so if you actively sr there you can campaign for him not to be matched ._.

obviously I meant that I couldn't vote. whatever.

What people think about this

it felt weird to me because it doesnt seem obvious and it like bothered me that ausuka omgus'd but then just went "oh well about it"
i use the word weird tho bc its like at the same time why do you blatantly just choose the route where you opt out of the fight knowing how that might come across

[Ydrasse]

i dont have active suspcions about fireisred but i think if they come across in pt im one of the people most likely to be able to spot it out a la invictus
i had a moment where i considered not dancing w fire because dancing with midway would be fun but it felt like a good thing to take while the offer was active

[Ydrasse]

wait are we gunna get try hard ydrasse?

dance games are my favorites so yes

[Ydrasse]

fireisred spent like a 10000 page pt pocketing andante in a game to win it was disgusting

[Ydrasse]

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=89501

pictured, in the main thread: me screaming crying throwing up about how fireisred is scum and pointing out all the reasons why in this post restrictd game while fire was doing THIS ALL GAME

[Ydrasse]

What people think about this

i agree that it wasn't obvious she meant voting, which is maybe a bit odd to me. I think the thought of campaigning for Shirou to be left out would come more naturally than voting out in dance phase.
but then why would she mention voting? I think it could be a weird inconsistency that happens with town?

pedit: im so slowww

Maybee
the irritation though was just like "ok then lol"

[Ydrasse]

why my cat wake up to lay on me for 10 minutes jus to go back to where he was before to sleep more

[Ydrasse]

he grooming himself a bit and i dont want to post his vulnerable moments

[Ydrasse]

:O

[Ydrasse]

shirou is the funniest poster in this game

[Ydrasse]

well i cant just say its me

[Ydrasse]

speak from the heart fb
why do i worry you

[Ydrasse]

i agree that it would be me pocketing fire lol
i dont think i'll ever let them do that to me

[Ydrasse]

Ok. I'm caught up.

I actually think it'd be kind of mean to have no one pair with enchant.

do you wanna volunteer to be left out instead

I won't volunteer because that's game throwing. If it happens, I wouldn't be mad. People can listen to my reads after I'm dead.

It will be interesting to see what midway and Owen do here either way.

I think if I'm limmed, I would like to see Shea/Ausuka flipped first, followed by you and Ydra.

Y my pair

[Ydrasse]

People who have played dance games before, how often are scum left until the last pair or so?

pedit - because fire is red (sir)

whats the agenda for a wolf acting cute

[Ydrasse]

@ydra are u trying to figure out if people pushing ur pair are scummy or just trying to get insight into fire by proxy.
It seems like a soft defense of ur pairing what ur doing.

insight into vp
i think saying someone cute = scum is a shallow read bcuz it's like "ok but then what next"

[Ydrasse]

i think saying someone cute = scum

I'm not making a generalization there. I'm speaking very specifically to how fire is playing this game.

whats the difference to you?

[Ydrasse]

mmm
how many ladies are left unpaired?

[Ydrasse]

i want vp to get a partner

[Ydrasse]

i want vp to get a partner

have u tried twirling ur hair at the remaining gents to convince them to date ur friend?

the post IS the twirling

i think the fire read is real

[Ydrasse]

i feel bad for enchant :/

[Ydrasse]

HE LIVES

[Ydrasse]

I was about to say I would pick Cakez over Enchant because I feel more confident on figuring out Cakez's alignment eventually rather than Enchant's (although I'm not confident on either of them, enchant is just more ?mysterious? to me), however upon reading Enchant's ISO...that does feel like town out of the sheer lack of "control"?

It doesn't feel like Enchant's posting have as much "overarching potential goal" as Cakez's? Cakez is trying to kinda contribute (for genuine reasons or to be town read as scum), but Enchant talked about mech for a bit and then just "quit it". Hm, rather weird to not want to engage in the dance mechanics when you signed up for...a dance game? I'm not trying to take a dig on you here even if it looks like that Enchant, just puzzled on how easy you "gave up on it" even though you signed up for the game.

Yeah i just realised everyone pick for personal preferences/skills so what point. I can confirm my alignment twice and STILL not be picked.

So pick Cakez and move on.

have you been reading since your last post?

[Ydrasse]

Why wouldn't I

Idk go blast Meuh.

wait let him cook

[Ydrasse]

feeling very antisocial today, will be around tmrw

[Ydrasse]

o/
more activity coming tonight/tomorrow, have lightly read
cakez has a chronic compulsion to bus in his mafia games + idk if he's fixed that but gonna look at his susses

[Ydrasse]

i want vp to get a partner

I want VP to give me any sort of vibe from his posts lol

Enchant idc they're never ever readable and also never make it to LyLo anyways tbhhh

Midway why enchant? This is such a bummer

I don't think that kind of thinking is in Enchant's scumrange, he is pretty straight foward as scum in my experience.

Alright, but it's pretty bad play to not accept. From Enchant's POV as town it should always be favorable to kill Cakez over themselves here. Especially if a lot of players in the game trust them over Cakez.

It makes sense to accept if SirCakez is mafia which i doubt.

If SirCakez is town, i rob place from more competent player, for... idk. I don't see self as important addition.


Imo if you really wonder, if i am mafia, i just accept this dance and instantly leave for my amusement. Like, atleast i destroy more with my death.

Fuck this is such a town post bc I literally made the same thought process in a dance game as town
But I want to stay in this game

vp treatment vs enchant treatment as last ladies/competition
not a lot on vp but tries a shred more to make vp feel doubted
cakez to enchant is like "oh nooo i wanna live but ah well enchant is town this sucks"

entire last pairing is wack because enchant was doing like the same thing in reverse "other people are preferred" etc
if enchant is mafia he's basically forced to waffle and mope for a bit after setting that stance publicly for a while
i dont know if scum enchant banks on his rejection of playing at all + self deprecation/trying to look like he has nothing to lose comes from scum enchant

[Ydrasse]

I think Cakez’s suspicion of me/std is like, fair, given how little std and I sorted each other before pairing, but I also feel like there’s some cross-scum-reading between those of us who joined this game for the playerlist and the memes and those who joined more so to play mafia (I’m in the first group) ((this is my take on the Shirou/ausuka dynamic too))

does wolf irrel want to validate his wolf partners sus of him

[Ydrasse]

Seems pretty unlikely that both the last two would be mafia when they're probably super incentivized to jump in early. Is that a thing that has happened in previous dance games?

i think i played in one once where it happened

[Ydrasse]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=84956

this one

[Ydrasse]

yo all these quick pairs are sus af

yo all these quick pairs are sus af

to be less obnoxiously vague - mainly not a fan of Drapion slot/Aristeia or StD/Irrel.

shirou feels kinda try-hardy to me? and like in the scummy way not the omega town mafia god xD player way

Do you really think I'm scum right now? I didn't accept Drapion asking me out, and I kinda ignored a bit later on fireisredsir's seemingly interest on pairing up with me. Sure I'm being a bit more forceful about getting paired up now but it's because there's not that many gentlemen left. I'm trying to get us past the memes and into some sort of discussion.

stuff like this is what I was referring to btw

Do you really think I'm scum right now? I didn't accept Drapion asking me out, and I kinda ignored a bit later on fireisredsir's seemingly interest on pairing up with me. Sure I'm being a bit more forceful about getting paired up now but it's because there's not that many gentlemen left. I'm trying to get us past the memes and into some sort of discussion.

stuff like this is what I was referring to btw

seems like a normal shirou post to me. It almost feels word for word in a game i played with them like i want to say a year and half ago? When I was scum they were town.

hi cakez how u doing

i'm pretty good tbh I hate new year's but I'm hyped to be back in a mafia game for the first time in a while!

good to have u with us.
I am a bit indifferent to new years myself. Watching anime while playing mafia is my new years plans.

why u want to pair with midwaybear?

bc I want to play this game and the only other option is UNO who seems kinda crusty

do u mean uno seems scummy?

okay
i dont have meta for anyone here really that isn't ancient so im gonna have to go with what I can get from ppl here

it means kinda scummy kinda blah like no sense of who they are from their posts

im down tbh

[Ydrasse]

idk why it grabbed all my quotes but those are some of cakez's susses

[Ydrasse]

i shouldnt sell cakez so short and assume he played it the same way he's played every other wolf game of his life but lol

[Ydrasse]

Like I literally have not had a good Mafia game in years and then bam wrecked again

This post is really weird. What I say next may sound ridiculous and I dismissed it for the same reason initially, but understand the context here:

This was just right after Midway proposed to Enchant, and Enchant back then was talking about how he wouldn't be invited, but never said anything about not wanting to play. I for one assumed Cakez was good as dead back then and it was one of his last posts since Midway/Enchant would be the last pair.

I assumed he meant "Mafia" as a game and not alignment, It sounded obvious to me, but then just out of curiosity I went to check when his last game was, it sounded like it had been a long time since he played, but that's when it began to get weird, Cakez has played a

lot

of games in 2022/end of 2021 in my opinion:

He was in Open 866 (town), Micro 1062 (town), Mini 2281 (town), TFT upick (town), Mini 2260 (town), Mini 2254 (town), Large 239 (town), Mafia Invictus (town), Micro 1033 (town), Mini 2243 (town).

It's hard to imagine he hasn't had at least one game above where it was kinda "good", at least a bit. (This is probably the point by how he's gonna try to defuse this "case"). However although I don't have time to read to read so many games to find which ones he seemed to enjoy, I found this on one of my first skims, in Micro 1062:

Spoiler:

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

cakez how does it feel to finally take down your nemesis

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The above game was a town stomp where they won splendidly against scum!pooky, to which he had lost in LyLo as town in the previous Mini 2260. Sounds like a "good" game to me.

On the contrary, I could only find one game he rolled scum in this period, Open 854.

He

lost it

.

I think given the above, what makes the most sense to me is that Cakez hasn't rolled scum too much lately neither has had good performances on the role when he did, so he was disappointed to be eliminated first here and expressed that by the end because he thought he was as good as dead.

unless enchant is also scum i think it would be batshit insane for shirou to sit there psychoanalyzing his partner knowing there's still a chance he can still dance unless he either is just positioning assuming enchant will accept before cakez gets an offer (i dont think this is likely from reading it wasnt broadcasted to thread at large enchant would accept) or he thinks doing something less concrete and more theoretical would somehow undermine the chances enchant is preferred

[Ydrasse]

uh yeah should've been 1167
for STD/Irrel, Irrel has been pretty clearly town this game. I think Ydrasse also made a pretty good point in 1183. I don't think wolf Irrel cares to comment on that if Cakez is also wolf.
I'm more nullish on StD. Like I see that Cakez has scumread StD, but I don't wanna scumread every player that Cakez has scumread. StD gives off a chill vibe and while I normally townread stuff like that I feel like he would be chill as wolf too.
Idk, I think VPB more actively scummy so far.

i dont think the reasons you have for thinking irrel to be clearly town are that strong, the most compelling to me is 820
irrel thought cakez was towny more than once, how does this way up versus like how irrel is making/presenting the reads

[Ydrasse]

I think Cakez’s suspicion of me/std is like, fair, given how little std and I sorted each other before pairing, but I also feel like there’s some cross-scum-reading between those of us who joined this game for the playerlist and the memes and those who joined more so to play mafia (I’m in the first group) ((this is my take on the Shirou/ausuka dynamic too))

I think everybody should make it clear who they think should be paired between Enchant/Cakez before midway proposes

Uhhh I feel bad for both of them, the dance mechanic makes this elim feel awkwardly personal?? Or maybe Enchant’s sad vibe is what makes it feel personal. Either way I don’t have a strong read on either slot… I wish we could retroactively give Shirou the boot but yeah I dunno. I don’t want to prove Enchant’s “nobody would save me anyway” right but Cakez is offering reads and it’s hard to elim that over someone who’s just offering AtE, even if the AtE feels justified to me

I wish we could just leave like Uno or Irrel out

I feel this. As the phase nears its end I feel like a jerk for taking a spot given how little time I have to play this game. It’d be nice if you or Enchant flipped red but that feels unlikely now too. I think I’m mostly scumleaning gentlemen

As a sidenote I’m relieved StD is as scummy as me, because then later if we get elimmed and he’s town i won’t feel as bad about it being my fault two townies flipped. And if he’s scum it will be so easy to catch him - because no one will feel the need to keep me alive! Really I’m doing y’all a favor by being vaguely sketchy

Ummmm firebringer/UNO/StD have pinged me scummily

Ari/TSQ/Cakez/Enchant/midway/StD have pinged me townily

Midway has to be town for trying to dance with enchant! Town motivation: trying to keep his townread alive. Scum thought process would be: attach oneself to limbait? No. Stand out by defying town consensus? No. Leave your gate in the hands of an unpredictable player who can leave at any time? No. Scum bear would have proposed to Cakez first


I will try to read VPB’s posts later goodnight

like reading thru irrel says in 823 he doesnt have strong feelings abt either enchant or cakez but then keeps talking/interacting with about how cakez is towny

[Ydrasse]

irrel thought cakez was towny more than once, how does this way up versus like how irrel is making/presenting the reads

Rn I still think his way of making/presenting reads feels unlikely to come from a scum angle. I can see how him calling cakez townie might be scum!irrel subtly supporting his buddy, but there's also nothing that makes me think it isn't a townie's genuine opinion. So the way irrel is making reads makes me lean/solid town him up
gonna bring up the top paragraph 1076 again
like does scum reallly say stuff like that?

i think it's more likely that scum says that in a dance game than a normal one but i get why you think it

[Ydrasse]

mmmmm

[Ydrasse]

ProfessorDrapion

&

Aristeia

have paired!

can we lim them first lol

why?

I find both drapion's invite to you and your acceptance to be sketch. i don't see the reasoning or thought process there at all.

I chose Asteria since they are a decently high poster as well plus I’ve found them alright so far and don’t get any wolf vibes from them.

this doesn't even make sense temporally because drapion proposed to ari way early on

I chose Asteria since they are a decently high poster as well plus I’ve found them alright so far and don’t get any wolf vibes from them.

this doesn't even make sense temporally because drapion proposed to ari way early on

at the time of proposal there were under 200 posts and ari had made 25 of them

i think its reasonable

ig maybe its the way its worded that is throwing me off

which means cakes didnt really read what happened, he was just operating off my funny recap and assuming it was accurate.

this is bs I did see what happened but I still found the pair suspect

-

i think ari is kinda scummy (vibes) and i don't really like meuh's approach to reading her it feels kinda fake to me

i like shea poking around about both of those so maybe towny there

midway is an ehhh but didn't really like meuh's poke there either

enchant and cakez are probably both town

unowen town vibes

sort of townlean ausuka now too

Okay idk if this is just me over reading into tone or something but why are all your reads so waffle sounding

"Kinda scummy"
"Maybe towny"
"Ehhhh"
"Probably town"
Etc etc

I get it's early but I don't see why your stances are so uncertain

[Ydrasse]

i asked fire for their reads as a jumping point back into the game, here’s my thoughts

i don’t know if all of ari and meuh and norwee would be wolves together
because it’s like then sircakez was attacking a s-s pair with what i feel was hollow/no reasoning when i feel like with two people hed be able to pick at something more than just the vague reasons of what happened
and then meuh would have like immediately entered the game also attacking a partner for being desperate scum and paranoid for the sake of it too which like these aren’t connected events inherently but it’s like what is your plan lol
also i’m unsure if wolves would feel it necessary to s-s pair early for not a lot of reason either
when i was speaking with midway i got the vague feeling he could have been whiteknighting irrel because the crux of his argument felt like “this is just how town makes reads!”’while not really engaging with the fact that irrel hemmed and hawed about the eod events which i feel like is weird to gloss over. i do agree though that saying stuff like someone wouldn’t try so hard on nye is towny lol
enchants play around the entire pairing is probably town, i think there’s always merit in people playing coy or sacrificial in dance games as scummy but i don’t think that it’s a gambit enchant chooses to set up that early into the day, i need to check this but i think if it came well before cakez was in the danger zone then it’s not some sort of move to valiantly exclude his partner and get cred and was just how enchant
felt about things at large.
i’m working with the assumption fb is town for pairing up with the ic for now having witnessed the last game alongside said ic who witnessed it and how that went, historically scum + ic has been a shitshow
in this world shirou is also town for the way he treated cakez, i guess he could have been whiteknighting enchant to get the cred but from experience people analyzing the like... emotions or motivations about offhand phrases like shirou did has almost always been a town thing to do. this isn’t as strong of a read as it could be though because i think the theatrical presentation makes it hard sometimes to feel out vibes beyond “having fun lol”
i haven’t read as much of the back and forth between vpb and shea recently but i think that vp is lightly town because he was able to pretty easily bridge the gap between his earlier fire read/cute into like something more substantial, even if he didn’t explain it immediately it made sense and didn’t feel like bullshit for the sake of having a read
i feel lukewarm about fire because i felt that sircakez giving more weight to his read on fire could have been him having something to actually call out versus his other reads being half baked at best but i think their reads match up closely to mine when all i asked was “what are your reads” that i feel okay saying lightly town
anyone else not mentioned im neutral on right now

[Ydrasse]

that makes more sense lol

[Ydrasse]

dw VPB just scum trying to agitate

Y tho

[Ydrasse]

not really engaging with the fact that irrel hemmed and hawed about the eod events which i feel like is weird to gloss over

It's similar to how I view norwee, but I see the generally noncommittal read Irrel had on Cakez/Enchant as town genuinely conflicted. irrel didn't even really push Cakez like Norwee, so i don't think his EoD is to concerning

i guess to me it merited even a footnote because it’s like
i think the things that you said were town mindset weren’t as... grounded in the game (playing on nye = town) as the actual events so the lack of it was o_o because it’s so much easier to just say omg town because of this quirky post lol

[Ydrasse]

):

[Ydrasse]

no actually i’ve only really listened to my on repeat lately
and video essays lol

[Ydrasse]

unrelated to mbs newest post i’m rescinding my suspicions of mb for now

[Ydrasse]

i don’t really want to slog through vp vs shea but i will later

[Ydrasse]

it’s so much easier to just say omg town because of this quirky post lol

ig that's sorta how i like to make reads lol
(off of one post or a short string of them)

i missed you my little science experiment you

[Ydrasse]

why he head so small

[Ydrasse]

it feels like his body is 11px and his head is 10

[Ydrasse]

otome demon made real

[Ydrasse]

fire has no pt power this game we are safe

[Ydrasse]

wait why did you ask me

[Ydrasse]

What

[Ydrasse]

wait why did you ask me

bc the list of people that i knew who i thought would be fun to dance with was rapidly shrinking and i was feeling fomo

i also was scumreading you and thought it would be fun/maybe useful to pair up given that

i also was hoping for music :<

you were WHAT
:O

i’ll provide music soon

[Ydrasse]

i really think fireisred is scum here.
he def feels like he playing up an act not just as jokes to me.
I don't think his stances on who he picks are actually townie.
Plus other posts that pinged me.

also irrel/save are town MariaR smells and is a fake cop.

which stances?

[Ydrasse]

which stances mutt

[Ydrasse]

we have close to the same ones though AHHHH

[Ydrasse]

i towm

[Ydrasse]

our pt is p barren

[Ydrasse]

I poasted reads lion Plsngive feedback ty

[Ydrasse]

not to be shady af but what’s the point of talking about fb

[Ydrasse]

just got jumpscared by a bts song showing up

[Ydrasse]

re enchant : he may be chaotic but he’s also a person too

why’s meuh towny? if u think norwees scum do u think she just got lucky calling drap desperate scum like an hour into the game. i skimmed her iso and it picks up more after the fluffy parts of pairing but nothing in it felt unfakeable to me
(fwiw i feel like some of your case around norwee is like going to the worst possible interpretation so i’m not like 100% sold on him i’m at work rn if you want me to point out which parts l8r)

[Ydrasse]

I’ll close my eyes and you’ll all disappear

gl can you plz explain meuh for me and i’ll reread norwee when i’m not at my desk pretending to work lol
good trade deal

[Ydrasse]

IM LISTENING TO KPOP DO YOU WANT KPOP????

[Ydrasse]

mariar flop player peaked in forbidden actions mafia

[Ydrasse]

i wish that game still existed fuck you lucid

[Ydrasse]

i didn’t play but i played the one after (the pantheon one i think) but i loved how everyone abused the mechanics to die for game advantage LMAO

[Ydrasse]

epic mafia forum games have been by and far the jankiest ones i have ever played in. actually infuriating at times

my vote is pending a meuh towncase from gl and me rereading when i’m home but my votes probably going to be on norwee/ari
i’ll reevaluate fire after that bcuz we’ve ended up so far not disagreeing but if things are horribly off i’ll want to leave

[Ydrasse]

i’d like to see the maria case rebuttal bcuz i’m not really compelled by shirou’s, like i don’t get what’s being lied about

also it feels really unlikely that shea gets into that kerfuffle with vpb and bounced if he’s a wolf tho like he knows that it doesn’t matter what’s being said because he goaded it all to happen so he shouldn’t get upset about it
feelings are irrational but dipping after causing that would be gross

[Ydrasse]

that was in response to shirou saying tsq caused it to cover for ari
if you’re doing that for a partner i don’t think it ends with you leaving because you got mad over a spat you wanted

[Ydrasse]

i genuinely doubt it was for no reason given last posts

[Ydrasse]

I'm not engaging with someone whose argument starts with the bullet point "is a wimp"

Fuck off.

I'm really not here to be insulted be someone who has just decided to be an asshole to me for no reason. This is toxic bullshit.

[Ydrasse]

i won’t dwell more in that but i just don’t think tsq was fighting to save a partner

[Ydrasse]

So my conclusion from that is just that TSQ-Baltar are likely unalligned, but not that either of the two are more townie from it.

mm i see ur point
i think that we just have different feelings about stuff like that though and how people act/get along
i’ll say t/s or t/t though but likely t/t from my reads

[Ydrasse]

i think day ends after two pairs are gone

[Ydrasse]

begging pleading sobbing throwing up for a meuh towncase rn

[Ydrasse]

that vote feels so dnndjdbebdbdb

[Ydrasse]

like calling the slot desperate scum and then going teehee murky on both is so. So.

[Ydrasse]

release the draft

[Ydrasse]

like calling the slot desperate scum and then going teehee murky on both is so. So.

Is the desperate scum a reference to something I thought on... page 9? and which on top is something that I dismissed in that exact post?

Initially thought Prof could be like desperate scum here, but actually he's a gent so he can't die either way, so I'm not sure what to make of the double proposal

What are you even trying to say

did you even answer where you got the desperate and paranoid idea from or am i insane because i think it never was

[Ydrasse]

actual guy with whiteboard and marker moment

[Ydrasse]

but WHY paranoia

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: norwee/ari

i want the hammer

[Ydrasse]

wrong person in that pair

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: Ydrasse/fireisredsir

kindly requesting an explanation for this vote because uh

[Ydrasse]

vote count 1.03

with 16 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. the first dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-10 19:15:00).

yeet

NorwegianboyEE & Aristeia [3]:

GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, fireisredsir

Thestatusquo & furtiveglance [0]:

Save The Dragons & Irrel [1]:

VP Baltar

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [0]:

Firebringer & GuiltyLion [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Enchant

UNOwen & VP Baltar [2]:

Thestatusquo, midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [1]:

Meuh

not voting [8]:

NorwegianboyEE, Aristeia, furtiveglance, Irrel, Ydrasse, Firebringer, Shirou, UNOwen

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vote count 1.04

with 16 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. the first dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-10 19:15:00).

yeet

NorwegianboyEE & Aristeia [4]:

GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, fireisredsir, furtiveglance

MariaR & furtiveglance [0]:

Save The Dragons & Irrel [2]:

VP Baltar, MariaR

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [0]:

Firebringer & GuiltyLion [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Enchant

UNOwen & VP Baltar [1]:

midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [1]:

Meuh

not voting [7]:

NorwegianboyEE, Aristeia, Irrel, Ydrasse, Firebringer, Shirou, UNOwen

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vote count 1.06

with 16 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. the first dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-10 19:15:00).

yeet

NorwegianboyEE & Aristeia [4]:

GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, fireisredsir, furtiveglance

MariaR & furtiveglance [3]:

Shirou, Meuh, VP Baltar

Save The Dragons & Irrel [0]:

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [4]:

NorwegianboyEE, MariaR, Aristeia, UNOwen

Firebringer & GuiltyLion [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Enchant

UNOwen & VP Baltar [1]:

midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [0]:

not voting [3]:

Irrel, Ydrasse, Firebringer

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vote count 1.07

with 16 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. the first dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-10 19:15:00).

yeet

NorwegianboyEE & Aristeia [5]:

GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, fireisredsir, furtiveglance, Irrel

MariaR & furtiveglance [4]:

Shirou, Meuh, VP Baltar, NorwegianboyEE

Save The Dragons & Irrel [0]:

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [3]:

MariaR, Aristeia, UNOwen

Firebringer & GuiltyLion [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Enchant

UNOwen & VP Baltar [1]:

midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [0]:

not voting [2]:

Ydrasse, Firebringer

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vote count 1.08

with 16 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. the first dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-10 19:15:00).

yeet

NorwegianboyEE & Aristeia [7]:

GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, fireisredsir, furtiveglance, Irrel, UNOwen, Shirou

MariaR & furtiveglance [3]:

Meuh, VP Baltar, NorwegianboyEE

Save The Dragons & Irrel [0]:

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [2]:

MariaR, Aristeia

Firebringer & GuiltyLion [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Enchant

UNOwen & VP Baltar [1]:

midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [0]:

not voting [2]:

Ydrasse, Firebringer

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[Ydrasse]

wrong person in that pair

what if... they're both scum

doubtful imo
VOTE: owen
still need a meuh towncase i thought her vote was kinda gross too

[Ydrasse]

LOLOLOLOLOL

WHATEVER WORKS B)

Dang my hammer was taken from me.

yoink

[Ydrasse]

shirou, i really don't think tsq aligned with ari given their argument over cakez and his skirt jacket read

I agree with this unfortunately.

Shirou is basically confirmed town until end of time.

Just before the flip but after the thread locked, I asked Owen who he thought would flip scum out of that pair and he said Norwee, so I'm guessing Owen is probably not scum here. Gave him a chance for free distancing and he didn't take it.

i think his voting record isn’t great
he voted me and fire at a time when the wagons were unsure
and didn’t explain why from what i saw
and then when the norwee and ari one grows more me moves to that

[Ydrasse]

Maybe VPB is just scum who has good takes but his thought processes align a lot with mine which is good

which?

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: Ydrasse/fireisredsir

kindly requesting an explanation for this vote because uh

VOTE: Ydrasse/fireisredsir

but I could be wrong

pls explain your votes

[Ydrasse]

i thought her vote was kinda gross too

maybe if it was t/t, but given ari flipped scum it doesn't look like a bus setup to me

i’m put off by her vote boiling down to her saying “idk which one it could be but here’s a reason to vote regardless”
also late vote lol

[Ydrasse]

i think ari writing essays at fire about how rejected she felt and questioning his boldness or w/e would be the goofiest theatre possible

[Ydrasse]

i’m put off by her vote boiling down to her saying “idk which one it could be but here’s a reason to vote regardless”
also late vote lol

hmm i think shirou sorta forced her to vote which is why it looks so odd

lol what

[Ydrasse]

encroaching aura
my head is under attack

meuh can you show where you like actually said or did anything wehrn vp mindmeld
dosnt mean a lot witohut

bbl

[Ydrasse]

it’s all because we’re not voting with you... a cruel punishment

[Ydrasse]

fwiw me and fire briefly talked about what we thought scum would do
i thought that scum is more likely to push the town partners in a t-s pair because it gives them more actual capacity to be towny lol

[Ydrasse]

someone gets left out of the dance pairs

[Ydrasse]

i’m not voting mariar/furtive, sorry
nothing said so far has made me really go “waow” case wise
i strongly believe a scum tsq does not act as he does in this game
furtive is less town imo but beyond being a quieter player he’s done nothing that i think is egregiously scummy in his time in the game.

i will say that 2284 set off some alarms just now because i don’t know if vp baltar shirks responsibility onto another player like that and does it at a time when one of the the other clearest alternatives is his pair being voted. maybe i’m being too harsh on what i think of vpb as a player but it felt very complacent

id consider voting gimli the slot hasn’t impressed on rep in and seemed mired in asking easy questions that were answered in setup post, std isn’t super towny but i’m not like -_- there either. i don’t feel great about it as an alternative tho

meuh/owen are preferred

[Ydrasse]

i don’t know if vp baltar shirks responsibility onto another player like that and does it at a time when one of the the other clearest alternatives is his pair being voted. maybe i’m being too harsh on what i think of vpb as a player but it felt very complacent

I'm actually very collaborative as town. I'll lead if I feel like that's the role I need to play, but I'm just as happy to play support. I don't think I'm super invested in this game either, so being more supportive makes sense fmpov.

If M/F flips T/T, you can certainly get upset at me rather than shirou. I think shirou is likely 100% town here (unless power bussing, in which case gg). So feel free to come at me if you like, but I think this is the optimal play for the town today, short of limming relly/std, which doesn't seem to have support.

i think shirou is town too but i disagree with his current push. i feel like it’s going to happen though
gimli/std is a big maybe for me but i don’t feel great about it
do you think owen is towny?

[Ydrasse]

hdp sucked all the scum odds out of me
now i dance freely

[Ydrasse]

i don’t think shea ever does what he did this game as scum
sorry not sorry but that would be so gross to start up and then whine about toxicity you took part it knowing how it didn’t even matter because it came from someone prodding at you

i don’t think anyone’s made a really compelling case for furtive being scum and i’m still waiting
i feel like i’m waiting for reasons on a ton of things that i’m not getting

[Ydrasse]

*follows*

[Ydrasse]

my vote was mainly for owen.
this game became significantly less fun so i stopped following as much but as ever willing to vote elsewhere.

[Ydrasse]

my vote was mainly for owen.

this game became significantly less fun

so i stopped following as much but as ever willing to vote elsewhere.

what happened

unwilling to talk about it.

[Ydrasse]

I love mafia scum dot net

[Ydrasse]

what’s the towniest thing you’ve done this game dragons?
i’ll case you later.

[Ydrasse]

I love mafia scum dot net

It’s fun to watch tbh. How much has fire reader posted in your hood btw

not too much but neither have i

[Ydrasse]

I'll probably leave the dance tbh. I understand needing to clear our team. I think clearing us, Fireisred and relly/dragons basically wins the game.

i think this may be part of it with what happens after
do you still agree with this sentiment?

[Ydrasse]

Baltar leaving if town would probably be protown yeah. The nightkill would be interesting

mm

[Ydrasse]

Me versus my inability to read someone without bias when they want to kill me

[Ydrasse]

gentlemen:

fireisredsir

Firebringer

Save The Dragons
Meuh

midwaybear

UNOwen

MariaR

ladies:

furtiveglance
Enchant
VP Baltar

Shirou

GuiltyLion

*
Gimli

-

will reread unstriked tonight or tomorrow, striked disinterest me
for the sake of making this game continue on i’ll be open to compromising.

[Ydrasse]

yeah that post wasn’t great.

[Ydrasse]

UNVOTE:

[Ydrasse]

woke up just to steal this one too VOTE: maria - furtive

[Ydrasse]

fire and i already are on the same page p much of sort of trusting another but hoping another pair can town it up a lot so we can just trust in them more so please get to it

VOTE: vpb/owen

[Ydrasse]

everyone coming out of the woodwork to suspect me after intermission is a big HMMMMM

[Ydrasse]

fire and i already are on the same page p much of sort of trusting another but hoping another pair can town it up a lot so we can just trust in them more so please get to it

VOTE: vpb/owen

This seems scummy and trying to power through a yeet before discussion.

I'd be interested to hear why fire thinks ydra is town

My brother in christ i have already committed to not being last pair

[Ydrasse]

i think you're town, ydra!

[Ydrasse]

also i don’t think it’s powering thru an elim to be the third vote on ur wagon lol

[Ydrasse]

also i don’t think it’s powering thru an elim to be the third vote on ur wagon lol

Given you've only basically hammered this game, certainly a turn in voting urgency from you.

i’ve voted this game beyond just hammers
but you just remember the hammers because they’re like shinier

[Ydrasse]

like i’ve literally told fireisred that our goal should be to find another town pair and then we leave
(and then we both were afk for the weekend but yknow)

this feels like a weird like. idk how to word this basically flip now that the pressures really on when i am telling everyone my exact intentions

[Ydrasse]

like i literally cannot lie about “oh teehee not gonna leave” unless you think me and fire are the exact scumteam
fire just murks me

[Ydrasse]

I actually never read ydrasse at all I can't seem to get through her posts

this happens a lot lately and i genuinely don’t know why

[Ydrasse]

>can’t read through posts
>well just gonna vote

actual headache territory

[Ydrasse]

also i don’t think it’s powering thru an elim to be the third vote on ur wagon lol

Given you've only basically hammered this game, certainly a turn in voting urgency from you.

i’ve voted this game beyond just hammers
but you just remember the hammers because they’re like shinier

Who have you been after this game? I can't recall a real push you made all game.

meuh and owen mainly
some of my pushes are more for who i think could be town
like when i wanted you to be paired over cakez/enchant
i feel strongly that midway and gimli are town this game as well

[Ydrasse]

when the ic and the ic partner both townread u and then they’re mysteriously killed and everyone pushes u
Much to think about

[Ydrasse]

HMMMM

[Ydrasse]

i wish i could care as scum anymore
it hurts my bones

[Ydrasse]

no it’s mostly just funny

[Ydrasse]

like i don’t know how else to communicate i don’t want to be last pair and i want to solve for a townpair instead and then peace out
it feels stupid to say “hey guys maybe you should like... look somewhere else or find a town pair you want to endgame” because it’s not like i could trick my way out
and if you’re like omg they’re helping to set up a partner to win!!!!
... re evaluate after i die but like i’m going to be uselessly trapped in defensive interactions in main thread because that’s just how my head works
like i can do all of my stuff in my pt i guess but it feels less productive than just being left alone for a bit to offer something and then dip

[Ydrasse]

everyone was saying meuh town when i was asking last phase it felt like

[Ydrasse]

who all thinks their pair needs to get resolved before yeetlo?

i kinda feel
ydra/fire
myself/gimli
baltar/owen

so scum's in the other pairs

boom meuh

i kinda think that you’re a town/town pair rn

[Ydrasse]

same hat

[Ydrasse]

can you tell me why you're town reading fire

a lot of it is vibes and that arisreia interaction where she’s like explaining stuff at him about how they almost paired or could have and how she was like reading a whole lot into Shyness and Boldness
it doesn’t feel like a s/s interaction to me because it was like ari was explaining something to fire when fire isn’t gonna be like..: convinced of snything when they already have their feelings on it and i don’t think you do that weird of theatre with a partner

like it could be wrong but i feel it’s a lot more simplistic to say “ur scummy for not pairing with me” and leaving out where you wax poetic over boldness

[Ydrasse]

alright. first of all: all scum on wagon yesterday
and I wasn't on wagon

why are you sure of this

i think that wagon was always happening once shirou refused to play the game

^

[Ydrasse]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

wrt the enchant meta
has midway ever played a game with enchant to know that info because i think he was gone for like a year?