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Hey guys, I'm a little late to the party, starting read through now! ^^“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I might just give a summary of my thoughts so far of active players over a few posts. Real life calls, I have an important assignment due tomorrow so not much free time today, sorry. I'll be sure to catch up tomorrow though.
(Aw man there was a Higurashi game? Someone please mod another one, pretty please?)
Zymf: Just the one post pointing out the problem with RVS, null.
White: Voting first thing with this game mech wasn't good, but probably a honest mistake. Dislikes Zelink's overexplanation for focusing on game setup/mechanics which I disagree with. Annoyance at lack of scumhunting on page 2/3 which seems rather early, but not unreasonable. Don't like the part of their scum read of Taly concerning pointing out game mechanics yet to be discussed, as I see no problem with that since it's important to take into account what abilities other players may have with such a strange game mechanic. Don't agree that Taly is overreacting, could be biased because of my own playstyle but annoyance/defensiveness at accusations you think are silly are not a scumtell to me. Overall, lots of effort put into scumhunting, which I feel overshadows my disagreements with their points since some of them are matters of opinion. Also, what little meta knowledge I have makes them towny to me right now. Slight town lean.
Notscience: Uh... I have no idea what to make of this guy. Can barely understand some of his posts. His behavior gives me a gut feeling of town, but I'm going to go with null for now.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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My read on you is wishy washy because this game has been going for like half a day. Didn't realise I needed to have definite reads this early on, oops.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Taly: Focus on game mechanics is not alignment indicative to me, especially in such a complicated setup. (Complicated for my standards) Reactions to White seem reasonable as I explained before. Vote on NS looks almost OMGUS because of what he said afterwards about obliging him, and he did not even seem to be scumreading NS before. I don't like how despite focusing on why it is important to be careful with votes earlier on, he'll still vote without a significant scum read. Slight scum lean.
Zelink: Came up with the pseudovotes system (thank you!), very dedicated to keeping order in the game which is helpful but not alignment indicative. His defense of Taly does not bother me because the 'case' against Taly is concerning discussing game mech, which Zelink has also focused on, so it would make sense for him to disagree. Comments on scumhunting without asking questions seem true. I may be a little biased because I like his good humor and logical approach to the game so far, but the game is still in early stages, so things could easily change. Slight town lean.
Edit: Agree with Ankamius, you guys be crazy“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 193, White Narcissus wrote:In post 189, Mikazuki wrote:Didn't realise I needed to have definite reads this early on, oops.
Where did i say you needed to have definite reads? Your read on us is like "Oh hey this is bad, but then, it's not" "Oh hey I disagree with this, but then it makes sense" and then in the end after all those null wishy washy stances you go "Oh based on a little bit of meta i have they're slight town".
~Sakura
Disagreeing with someone is less important than whether or not I can rationalise how you came to that conclusion, and overall attitide and behavior counts for a lot too. Unless your reasoning seems completely ridiculous, it doesn't earn you scum points from me if I disagree with you. Some of my thoughts are just thinking aloud and I wanted to take note of what I thought about your posts.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Anka: Nothing to read on. Null.
Thor and Loki: (Ermagerd Loki <3) Starts off with game mechanics discussion, wants to quicklynch NS for no reason, but that's just early game stuff. Suspicion of Gaiden makes sense, as does his stance on Taly. Also a calm and logical approach to the game, very tentative slight town lean.
ZZZX: Also nothing much, although agree that the system is probably a good idea. Null.
Skold: Not much here either, again, I don't agree with finding Taly's speculation suspicious, but that's not alignment indicative as I can see where he's coming from. Feels town, but null pending morecontent.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Shadowcat: Nothing to read, null.
Lufan: See above.
Witness: Not sure about his attitude towards the game so far, he's not a new player so I'm a little surprised at 69, but then again he does at least mention base line reads. Null.
Gaiden: Really wants to get the game going, very little content. As T&L pointed out, he does not vote despite thinking it's a good idea. Null, teeny tiny possibility of a scum lean if I squint.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 209, White Narcissus wrote:not liking mika. Her reads look more like summaries of what happened rather than analysis and are generally too wishy-washy. Slight scum on Taly when she doesn't even agree with the accusation on him feels opportunistic too.
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I'm scum reading based on a different basis to you, just because I am scum reading someone, does not mean I need to agree with every accusation against them.
I'm literally trying to get through this as fast as I can because I have an assignment I need to start like 2 days ago, excuse me for not bring my A game today.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Defensive? Really? Explaining why you're wrong is defensive?
I could do this all day but I actually do need to go. I'll check back in as much as I can today.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Please, if I wanted to sheep you, I'd actually be sheeping you.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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They're my thoughts and reads for the players in as much detail as I could bother with, please suggest how I can improve on that and I will oblige at my earliest convenience. Of course I will start proper interactions and questioning when I get a chance to. Your issue with me only partially agreeing with you is ridiculous, and you should feel bad for it. Disagreeing with part of a read and 'sheeping' the other part is called 'thinking for myself'.
I have bad news for you, you appear to be unable to distinguish between 'half-assed' and 'unsure because it's been less than a day of gameplay'. I am familiar with at least one case of your town games though so I know this is how you play so I'm not going to complain about it further.
I am not in the mood for this crap today, and I pretty much guarantee that I will become very unpleasant if I continue. I'll come back once I finish my report.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 270, White Narcissus wrote:In post 262, Witness Protection wrote:
I really hate when people use "I have been having real life issues so i can't do anything" instead of just... saying nothing, like i know people have a life and what not, so i don't see the need for people to need to bring them up as excuses, it always looks to me like it's scum that for some reason decided that they need to justify their actions of some sort. And it's not like neither Mika or WP were prod dodging...
Does anyone else have any opinion on that?
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Can someone please explain to me what is peoples' problem with explaining why you not going to be around? About 3 different people my my games so far seem to hate it so much that they're willing to immediately scumread for that reason.
Like... if you're supposed to be somewhere doing something but you can't make it, you call up and explain why, you don't just ignore it and then show up a day or two later and pretend that there's no problem, it's just common courtesy right? Does this just not apply here or something? Because I'm happy to just leave without warning next time something comes up if that's more acceptable. This is actually a legit question, can someone please explain this to me?“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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And how do you determine the difference? Maybe I just get a knee jerk reaction, but I find it profoundly irritating to being accused of 'making excuses' when I have a legitimate reason. Unless of course I should care more about this game than my university degree or work, in which case, oops, I've been slacking off.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Catching up slowly.
In post 289, Witness Protection wrote:In post 186, Mikazuki wrote:You disagree with WN a lot, but you stop there. Do you think they're misguided, or scum
Your other two reads are filler.
Did you even read my post beyond what you wanted to see? I'm not reanswering questions that are already answered in my post.
As for the speculation about Sachiko etc. I just auto assumed that she would be either third party or 'Godfather'-ish role because of the source material so I don't see a problem with others who assume it. Zymf's post did seem a little too confident for my liking but I'll just keep that in mind for later since it could just mean nothing. I should have a better read of Zymf based on meta in a few days though.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Scratch that, some hella excellent timing just happened.
Slight town lean on Zymf now.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 330, Witness Protection wrote:It's N1571 if anyone wants to check his awesome Town play out. *Not sarcastic*.
If you like using meta, I'd like to recommend some further reading for you, you may be suprised.
In post 331, White Narcissus wrote:You can't meta off one game. People are not machines, they play differently from game to game.
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This is very true.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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If we're aiming to speedlynch, then I agree that lufan looks like the best candidate right now, although mostly as a policy lynch. I can't say I have any read on him, his posts are not so much scummy as just very lacking.
I'm still not too sure about Taly, and now also WP, but I'll leave a p-vote on lufan, hopefully if he gets enough votes he'll actually say something else.
P-vote: lufan“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Ooh, personal attacks this early in the game? There's a good sign! That's just how I talk, sorry if it annoys you, us Aussies are a sarcastic lot, must be all those poisonous spiders and jellyfish.
(I highly appreciate your attention to grammar though, good on you)
Yeah that was a formatting mistake, my bad. Your paranoia is astounding though, this is why I'm having issues with your posts to begin with. Trying to make you look bad? I... Can't even with you right now. No
I'm fine with you not liking my reads. Not sure what you mean by "We have ways to resolve this." though. I'm not familiar with WP or how he plays, but as of right now, I'm extremely suspicious of him, consider him my top scum read right now.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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@WP try reading his grand total of 12 posts in his most recent game.
I was clearly responding to Sakura, your comment about me trying to make you look bad is very concerning as I don't see how any reasonable person could have possibly interpreted it that way.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Actually, I need to go back through WP's ISO, put that read on hold for a sec, it may have been a little premature.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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You're... Giving me scum points for bad formatting? I don't even know what to say to that.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I seriously want to town read you now because there's no way scum would try to make a point that is so ridiculous, I actually can't tell if you're being serious or if you actually believe that.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Not to mention, the thing I quoted was SIGNED by Sakura, and it was concerning her opinion on people who give 'excuses'. How you manage to think that is some kind of diabolical plan to incriminate you I cannot possibly comprehend.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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It's because I suck at formatting and was in a rush. Can we please return to reality now“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Zelink nooooooo
Uh... No. I absolutely would not mind if someone left my name on the outside of quote where the actual poster's name is clearly written 2 times.
That is laughable. You scum read me for accidentally quoting with bad format. There is literally nobody in this entire game who would have misattributed that quote to you. Explain how I am being divisive please, apart from my usual sarcasm. You're the one who's complaining that I'm trying to make you look bad.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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(The Zelink bit was in response to your joke before btw)“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Ah Zelink, I really really hope you turn out to town, I like you a lot“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I'm done discussing this with you, unless I actually literally put someone else's quote under your name, it's not misquoting. WN/Sakura's names were clearly there, ergo if you drag this on any further I'm very close to losing my patience, and if you think I'm being rude now, you ain't seen nothing yet.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 455, Witness Protection wrote:In post 435, Mikazuki wrote:must be all those poisonous spiders and jellyfish
And snakes, octopi, fish, and then there's sharks and crocs. So you do have a lot to grump about. I'll try to take into account your grumpiness and bent toward sarcasm when trying to form a read.
Thankies, I appreciate it <3
(Don't forget the drop bears!)“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 525, Thor and Loki wrote:Fine I'm Thor. He's hotter, at least >.>
*gasp* BLASPHEMY
Skimmed, will read properly in lunch break, lufan just seems really genuinely newbie to me though“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 531, White Narcissus wrote:In post 528, ZeL1nK2 wrote:Oh, and one more question, lufan, but this is perhaps somewhat unrelated to the game at hand.
Why were you browsing private topics?
Ok. I wanted to avoid mentioning it, but this is where my certainty about lufan lies. He posted "I am not supposed to be here" in the PT that had just got publicized. My theory is that he thought he was added to another PT, so he posted "I am not supposed to be here" in it. This of course means that he is in another PT, one that he IS supposed to be in.
Either he's scum or some other role with a PT like mason/neighbor, but scum is obviously much more likely.
~Wis
Huh that is an interesting thought actually“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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^ Yeah, I'd like to hear what he has to say about it asap because it still seems hella weird.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 479, White Narcissus wrote:to those reading micro 454 - compare Flames's 78 in that game to Zelink's 360 + 361 here
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I was actually thinking about this earlier but I'm getting a different vibe than I did with Flames.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 531, White Narcissus wrote:In post 528, ZeL1nK2 wrote:Oh, and one more question, lufan, but this is perhaps somewhat unrelated to the game at hand.
Why were you browsing private topics?
Ok. I wanted to avoid mentioning it, but this is where my certainty about lufan lies. He posted "I am not supposed to be here" in the PT that had just got publicized. My theory is that he thought he was added to another PT, so he posted "I am not supposed to be here" in it. This of course means that he is in another PT, one that he IS supposed to be in.
Either he's scum or some other role with a PT like mason/neighbor, but scum is obviously much more likely.
~Wis
Just out of curiosity, why did you want to avoid mentioning this?“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Just to clarify, it's not because I find it suss, I was just wondering why you didn't think it would be beneficial to ask about it.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Mostly looks to me like he has no idea what he's doing (No offence)
Scumreads you for being inactive, and then drops the read after you make one contentless post. Also townreading on the basis of players being logical etc. was pretty awful.
Still not sure of newbscum or newbtown, waiting on explanation on the PT thing.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Do you investigate every forum with an unread symbol? You must be busy O_O
@Wis Fair enough I guess.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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To be honest though I did take a look inside the PT forum myself when I first started here out of curiosity. I just find it weird that lufan would post that he's 'not supposed to be here' in a topic.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 590, White Narcissus wrote:Even if he, out of curiosity, saw this "Private Topics" forum and wondered what it is, he would never get in one of them and post "I am not supposed to be here". It clearly indicates there is another PT where he IS supposed to be and he thought he was added to another one.
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Yeah, exactly.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I really don't know what to make of this O_O
Also, the topic was in the 'Completed Games' section though? There's a ton of games in there.
In post 582, lufan131 wrote:Because the unread symbol was there, and I was curious what's in there, so I looked. So I found stuff from other games, and thought I was beingsentthings by mistake, so I asked what was up, to find out they were just made public, so I felt really stupid. Noobishness, I guess.
Idk if we're overanalysing this but this bothers me a little.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Ah, my bad, it's in completed games now, I didn't think to check before.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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His post in the PT was just a few hours after his first few posts here too.
I really don't know, this could just be not understanding the forum I guess, but his word choice is a little strange.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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If nothing else, quick lynching is advantageous in this game setup, and with 12 players, we can afford a policy lynch on Day 1.
I'm still not completely confident on scum reading lufan yet, but unless he can come up with a better explanation/better reads, it's not looking good. To me, his reads and behavior don't indicate newbscum as much as they just scream newbie.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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14 players* (I can totally count >_>)“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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You're probably right, I haven't really played enough games to know typical newbie behavior as town/scum.
@Lufan: Can you please explain why you scumread ZZZX for not posting while null reading other equally inactive players? The fact that you immediately changed your read after he posted (no content) seems to indicate that it is not the content of his posts that you are concerned with and that you just find inactivity scummy.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 561, Witness Protection wrote:
I feel like a school yard bully, but why sign up for a game you know will be fast paced? This is classic scum behavior, and you may be new enough to not be aware of it. Please set some time aside and let us know aboutanythingyou think/feel about the game.
I do agree that it's a bad idea to sign up for games you don't have time for, but I wouldn't call that classic scum behavior. I've seen many town players who barely post/don't post for days for various reasons like school/work.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I think there's enough against lufan that especially considering time restraints, it's not unreasonable to ask him to claim. Flavour name and stuff might also be helpful.
(Also answer my question please lufan)“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Yeah, but assuming you don't read every topic, you'd have unread markers on every forum on the main index page right?“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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My problem isn't so much with him going into a PT, since I did that too when I first started, my problem is the use of his word 'sent' from the post before, suggesting he has business in the PTs, and him posting that he's not supposed to be there.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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There's that gold bullet thing on the left.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 623, Ankamius wrote:I can't be the only one really disliking Mikazuki's overall tone whenever lufan's brought up.
Hmm, go on?“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 624, White Narcissus wrote:Meaning, in order to see anything at all in the pt subforum, you have to enter it. But again, even if he had entered it to explore, he would have never made the post he made.
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pedit what golden bullet?
The icon thing on the left that's gold/silver depending on if it's read?“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Also, lufan is kinda the main topic of discussion for many pages now so...“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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I'm in the process of going back through Zelink's posts, I admit I've been a little too nice about him because I like his attitude and humor.
His defense of lufan did bring to mind Flames in our last game, and the more he defends lufan for no perceivable reason, the stranger it looks. I don't really understand how anyone can be townreading lufan for now, he should probably be null at best. I'll get back to you in a bit.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Well, Zelink's reasoning for townreading lufan in 363 is essentially meaningless. His reluctance to give reads is at least somewhat anti-town.
His defense of me didn't bother me because WP's problem with my quoting and accusations were so ridiculous, if I'd seen the same thing happen to another player I'd probably butt in as well. (Although you are free to call me biased on that one)
He's been quite humorous and sarcastic throughout the game so it's a little difficult for me to decipher what he means in certain posts, I sometimes can't tell if he's being serious or not, like in the 'asking a question and not expecting an answer' thing.
My main issues with him right now are his defense of lufan and not wanting to give reads. I don't see how he could already have something to hide (as town) that would make him so reluctant to discuss his reads.
@Anka: You probably haven't been reading my posts very carefully then.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Sure. Why don't you post some reads while I type?
*she, please guys~“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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He has no reason to townreading lufan, and the accusations being made to lufan are not nonsense.
I could be a little bit biased, in my most recent game, a player was defending me at the start of the game for no good reason and he turned out to be scum so I'm being a little cautious this time/“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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Sorry, I meant that to Anka.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 633, Ankamius wrote:You spent a lot of time being wishy washy about your read on him despite saying that his posts are weird. You talk about it for a while with people and you end up exactly where you began, despite saying multiple times that it's weird. Note his saying multiple times that he isn't actually scumreading lufan yet is passively supporting the wagon makes a chill go down my spine.
1. He either does not know how to play, or he's pretending not to know how to play, and I can't tell which. This makes it difficult for me to be sure of my read.
2. Yeah, I do tend to end up back at my original opinion unless someone can put up a really good point.
3. It is weird. Me and WN have been discussing it for a while. What do you think of lufan's PT post?
4. I've said it at least 2 times, I'm not against a policy lynch on Day 1 of a game with time restraints, and lufan seems like the best candidate.
5. Why so dramatic?
You've made it clear from the beginning that you're not not big on reading the entire thread, but I will not continue to summarise things I've already posted because you can't be bothered reading.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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In post 644, White Narcissus wrote:In post 634, Mikazuki wrote:His defense of me didn't bother me
I'll just remind you flames's defense didn't bother you either at first.
You SHOULD be alarmed when someone defends you when the majority seems to find you suspicious.
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He was defending me because of WP's thing about my formatting. That was complete bs, whereas Flames' defense was on me making 'excuses', which you guys had at least a little bit of a basis for arguing against. (Does that make sense kinda?)
I am a little alarmed of his defense of lufan though, so don't worry.“There’s no one who can live their whole life being completely uncorrupted.”
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