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If Luna calls me scum for this post, there's a 42% chance she's scum.In post 162, Expedience wrote:
70% chance Luna Fox will call you scum for this postIn post 159, rb wrote:I want to talk about percentages again.
If Luna is scum, that means a 67% chance that Exped is also scum.
If Exped is scum, there's a 91% chance that Ceph is Town.
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I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.
Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.
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Why would only cult recruiters be interested?In post 166, Luna Fox wrote:
whyyyyyIn post 159, rb wrote:I want to talk about percentages again.
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.-
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It doesn't actually help them though right? I guess your point is that it doesn't help anyone do anything though. That's fair enough.
I don't understand BBMolla's point on page 1. I've been awake for 19 hours and it's not clicking. The fact that it's not clicking at 19 hours of no-sleep gives them a 54% chance of being scum. If I was at say 1-12 hours of waking and it wasn't clicking then I'd bump that up to 61%.-
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I'm mostly just trying to give Luna an aneurysm by talking about percentages as much as possible, but put in the plainest terms:In post 182, Salt Squad wrote:
the answer to this question is 99% scumIn post 154, Luna Fox wrote:I would prefer if the discussion was "What's Luna's alignment" instead of "Who's Luna".
are these legit reads?In post 167, rb wrote:I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.
Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.
I sure do love me some percentages.
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- Luna on slight town read for trying to direct discussion to something useful (I understand her point)
- Exped on slight scum read (he's pushing her about it for reason I don't quite understand, plus he's possibly buddying me)
- Ceph on slight town read (the alts altiness thing just seems like town motivated to me)
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There's a 59% chance that you'd actually name 1 but say this to get us to lynch 3 if you were ScumSaltSquad.In post 208, Salt Squad wrote:
Probably around 3.In post 202, rb wrote:If Salthydra is scum, how many of the named Town would you think were also scum? If any?
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There's a 29% chance this ends in an emotionally turbulent fallout between friends which drags on for many months but ultimately just ends in an angry sex orgy.In post 222, Luna Fox wrote:
Everyone's my friend!In post 221, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:Luna lets be friends this game!
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Luna Fox was slight town before I went to bed, I think she's more town now. Seems to be genuinely attempting to figure out the game.
Nosferatu I actually scumlean on as well. Somebody said last page what I was thinking before I got to posting this. In 485 it feels like Nos is setting Titus/Hydrouse for a fall. I don't really see the point of what he's pointed out or questioning.
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I'm inclined to townread Stormblade for this because Exped was my biggest scumlean early game as well. I want to hear reasons though, once you catch up.In post 534, Stormblade wrote:Goddamn so I had 5 pages down in a big long catchup post and then my computer crashed so you people are just gonn ahve to to dealwith this shit sloppy shit and ur gonna like it
ok first 5 pages. from what i remember it was mostly bbmolla being dumb and ppl yelling. Tim was mad at him and i couldn't decide if it was disingeousous "trying really hard to look like town" or actually town. bbmolla wasn't actually town fori t. copper was right on that. luna was right to say people should stop giving a fuck. SC was bad when he called luna scum for that but was town when he said something else and i dont really remmber what it was. also THIS GUY. THIS FUCKING GUY. THIS GUY IS SCUM. AND IM GONNA VOTE HIM RIGIHT NOW:
VOTE: EXPEDIENCE
im actually so pos of this and whenever i get confident early game reads they're usually right so look the fuck out dude im tunneling you till the end of time.
other stuff. The ice head of Ice and Fire got salty and Titus called her town for it and Titus was probably right but NAI from Titus. ASOIAF lean town tho. Nosferatu dishes out some quality bant and Cephir apparently isn't about that lifestyle but he can step off bc Nosferatu is cool by me dude. i feel ike scum were moe inclined to harp on that molla bullshit for as long as they could bc it's the kind of discussion where ucan blend in and earn #townpoints without actually having reads.
anyway more to come SOON probably maybe and i will likely be more drunk by then this is just first 5 pages.
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Silence mr.69% probability of being scum guy.In post 546, Expedience wrote:
I don't like this post because you don't specifically address anyone.In post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?
It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going.
Got it now though, it was Cane + Able. Couldn't find the fucking post because of his grey text and I'm on phone so no search function.
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578 by Stormblade intensifies my town read of them. Reasoning makes sense, it's full of actual content and there's a 72% chance it's Town-motivated.
I don't understand how Luna is scummy. Exped's reasoning is shit. At this point her actions have been to direct the Town away from a pointless discussion and to ask clarifying questions of people. She's putting the town on a productive path and trying to figure the game out. My comment that "Luna is our FRIEND" had two-fold meaning:
1. to imply that she's my townread. I don't see how you'd be confused by that.
2. her signature actually says, "Everyone's your friend"
581 by exped is awful. Spelling, formatting, grammar or whatever other errors make sense. Outright saying scummy things isn't excusable by "I'm tired "
Cephrir has similar reads to mine, but it's bugging me. I don't like 580 because even though I disagree with Exped, it's not just the fact he disagrees that make him feel scummy. Ceph is making less effort to understand Exped's POV than he is focussing on the fact that he apparently thinks Exped is just wrong. Town are wrong all the time. Scumreading people because you think they're wrong is dumb.
I can't stand 604 - as a general rule I zone out and can't be fucked dealing with meta and delving into other games. If someone wants to give a specific example from another game they can go and get it themselves. I'll still disregard it but it annoys me to no end to be told to go and look at another game. Explain your actions in THIS game without sending Town on a multi-game-interpretation circlejerk. Also the statement, "it's not important what my reasons are" is just setting Wayward up to make a whole bunch of shit reasons for reads and expect people to not question them. Sorry, not letting you do that.
VOTE: Wayward Thinker
@MathBlade post 608 duly noted - but can you point out what you see to be a lack of content? As far as I'm concerned I'm sharing reads and pressing people on their opinions/thoughts, with the numbers for flavour. You seem to be implying that I'm just throwing out arbitrary numbers with no meaning - show me what you're talking about.
Following on from that, Ceph pointed that out in 623 - I'm wary of Ceph sheeping me here for the same sentiments I expressed about his post 580. He likes me just because we seem to agree - that's not a good reason to townread someone imo.
Post 629 is crap. I read this as having a lot of potential for sheeping on MathBlade's 608 - where am I sheeping? Show me. Planning ahead? Who doesn't? Are you saying that you don't read into the interactions and their context between people in the game and think about how they might play out? Surely if someone died right now and flipped scum, you'd have an idea of where that'd lead you next right? If I was doing full-blown scum-association crap and trying to pick the scum-team, I'd understand your skepticism. I don't understand it from this POV though because I'm clearly not playing the scum-association game.
Post 671 - Yes you've watched me play a game as Town and also as Scum. My first and second games ever. Being that it was about 2 months ago that I played my last Town game (this is my 4th game overall, 1 as Town, 2 as Scum) I've obviously changed quite a bit. Also you mention in this post that what I'm doing here is something you've not seen me do either as Town OR Scum - so what's with the scumread? Shouldn't it be NAI? Why don't you focus on the other stuff I'm posting instead?
Post 683 There's a 64% chance that Mastin has a crush on me and gives me special italics treatment in the Vote Count.
Post 688 What am I hiding? What's not clear to you? There's an 84% chance you're confused Town not understanding why I'm posting numbers.
735 I don't really understand what Exped doesn't understand about 590. He's asking you if you generally think players putting in a lack of effort into posts is a scumread in your opinion, because that's what you specifically mentioned not liking in 546...also wtf: did you just do theexact same thingin 751?
@Expedience in 747 you say you'd prefer to lurk. How come?
770 can we not have, "I'm tired " as a defence? I made a joke that I say less sig-worthy things when I'm not sleep-deprived, but I find it fully acceptable if people find things I say or do scummy when I'm sleepy and I see no reason why I'd be somehow "more scummy" just because I was tired. Motivation of figuring out game and helping town is still there.
771 is cute. I herebydenyso that you can tunnel me all game because this is scummy-af and the perfect cherry on top of your ice-cream sundae of, "I don't need to reason it doesn't matter!" if and when it's successful and I flip Town there's an 90% probability that you'll be next lynch and I'm perfectly okay with a 1-for-1 Town/Scum trade. Tunnel away baby. You're my highest scumread and I'd happily die if it means you get lynched next.
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@Expedience - In 818 you say Nahdia's case on you makes no sense. What about it makes no sense?
In 828 you say Salt Squad is being dumb. Why are they being dumb?
@Heartless - 868 are you reading Ceph as Null or are you reading Ceph as Town?
@No Retreat - Dave's honestly bypassed all my filters, can you briefly outline what you find scummy about him?-
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Unfortunately I'm not a double voter and I can't OMGUS them both at onceIn post 907, Luna Fox wrote:rb one thing i dont understand is you spend a lot of time saying how exp's reads are fake yada yada yada, yet you end up voting wayward.-
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I think I covered it at 885 as to how much I disliked their posts. I have more questions for Exped but Wayward is my strongest scumlean. Exped is unhelpful and not at all giving goos reasons for his thoughts.
Wayward is doing the same thing on top of throwing in meta reads (which I dislike) and also the fact that he calls it a pressure vote but then also insists they refuse to remove it if I don't do some specific thing is scummy af to me.
Pressure votes are what you do when someone isn't giving content, tunnel votes are what you do to your strong scumreads.
So why's he tunneling if it's just pressure?
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I'm actually getting legit annoyed now.In post 918, Wayward Thinker wrote:Spelling, formatting, grammar and whatever other errors that makes sense is NOT AI. It should be apparent that they very well may be tired given the time of night it was for them.
You just repeated what I already fucking said: that I can understand if people have a lapse in spelling/formatting/grammar then that makes sense and isn't something to worry about. The point is that outright scummy things aren't excused by, "I'm tired." I literally fucking said word for word:
"Spelling, formatting, grammar or whatever other errors make sense. Outright saying scummy things isn't excusable by "I'm tired "
Spelling, formatting, grammar or whatever other errors make sense.
Spelling, formatting, grammar or whatever other errors make sense.
And then the thing you come and attack me for is that I'm apparently taking spelling, formatting and grammar as being AI? Fuck off. If you actually turn out to be Town right now, I'm outright blacklisting you and refusing to play any further games with you because this is so fucking dumb that my brain literally hurts.-
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@everyone who is calling Expedience Town: Wtf are you seeing in him that's Town?
He doesn't provide reasons for anything he does, he barely responds to questions, he doesn't do anything that I can even perceive as pro-town.
I need an adult to highlight a bunch of his posts and show me why they're town motivated. Explain it to me like I'm real dumb, I don't care - just show me how and why you could possibly read Exped as Town.-
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Essay? Wtf there's like 5 sentences directed at you.In post 1028, Expedience wrote:
I can't respond to your essay and I don't see how that could be anything other than non-alignment-indicative.In post 1012, rb wrote:@everyone who is calling Expedience Town: Wtf are you seeing in him that's Town?
He doesn't provide reasons for anything he does, he barely responds to questions, he doesn't do anything that I can even perceive as pro-town.
I need an adult to highlight a bunch of his posts and show me why they're town motivated. Explain it to me like I'm real dumb, I don't care - just show me how and why you could possibly read Exped as Town.
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This better not be LQ posting on the Hydra because the entire reason you said you were going to tunnel me was a meta reasonIn post 1052, Wayward Thinker wrote:
I honestly had this same though. I would be curious of how you got at it. My way was kind of backwards and hard for people to follow but it may hold weight.In post 717, Luna Fox wrote:dave maybe scum.
Yes, but I dislike meta reads so much. They make me die inside a little bit.In post 719, Klingoncelt wrote:My meta reads are great.
A lot of people can't do meta reads.
Please don't try to stifle those of us that can.
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Didn't see them sorry, which posts?In post 1060, Cephrir wrote:rb did you have any response to my recent issues with you
I actually tend to gloss over big quote-walls because I just end up reading all the same stuff over and over again. Some people prefer it but if you want my attention it's best to just say: @rb and then do a post number quote.-
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I've played 3 open games.In post 1025, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:wait maybe not
rb how many games have you played so far, how much are you experinced in this? have you ever see a gladiation ?
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1st as Town in a 13-player with 10town 3scum. Only PR was Town Cop.
2nd as Scum in 13-player 10town 3scum. Town Cop, Doctor and Mafia Roleblocker.
3rd as Scum in Matrix6, BP+Tracker.
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Actually there is something, now that I read my original post for context.In post 1070, Cephrir wrote:
lolk.In post 1068, rb wrote:Oh that? All you said was basically, "you're wrong". Was there a question or something worth responding to that I missed?
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MathBlade wrote:Light scumread on RB right now for posting math instead of content.
Don't get me wrong I love numbers but this is bad.
If y'all want probability numbers I can fucking do that but that leads to a ton of gambler's fallacy and I would rather focus on scum hunting.
Right here you're giving MathBlade a contrary opinion after he gives me a light scumread. He's saying, "scumread for lack of content" and you're saying, "actually there IS content."Ceph wrote:Ignore the numbers and you'll see there's content in those posts.
The implied point here being that you'renotscumreading me - and since you didn't specify that it was actually a null-read, the impression I got is that it was a town-read.
So if I was wrong and you're not townreading me, I want to know if English is your first language because I feel like there's a language barrier here. And no that's not meant as an insult. If English is actually is your first language then please be more clear because I don't see it at all weird that I'd interpret your post as a townread.
Also if I'm null-read why are you bothering to defend me? Wouldn't you wait to see how I actually respond first? You're telling me you weren't sheeping and your response in 1032 made me think I was just wrong because of the way you dismissed it, but now I'm back to thinking you're potentially sheeping me.-
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Could have just started with that, yo.In post 1079, Cephrir wrote:
I was pointing out that her premise was incorrectIn post 1073, rb wrote:Right here you're giving MathBlade a contrary opinion after he gives me a light scumread. He's saying, "scumread for lack of content" and you're saying, "actually there IS content."
The implied point here being that you're not scumreading me - and since you didn't specify that it was actually a null-read, the impression I got is that it was a town-read.
I shoot down shitty arguments because they're shitty. It upsets me when people say and do things I percieve as dumb or wrong.
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@Luna
Not that it's an excuse but I'm pretty inexperienced in comparison to most people here, so if I misuse terms or because I've misunderstood them I don't have a problem with being told so. I generally read between the lines when people make posts and if people don't explicitly make their point clear I'm probably going to just go with whatever I find to be the simplest explanation. I still think that Ceph should have clarified what his actual read of me was and don't like his wording, but I'm not really suspect of his motivations at this point. His outburst makes me want to townlean though.-
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I'd say yes but I hate "read lists" in general so I'm probably biased.In post 1100, Cephrir wrote:salt and others who are still strongly pushing other things
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In post 1228, Expedience wrote:
This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.In post 1202, RAM wrote:This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.-
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I townread Stormblade because of Nahdia, but ABR and Errant's lack of participation makes me wonder.
What if they've decided that Nahdia's doing such a great job they'll just stay out of her way for now? As one of the most townread slots right now their input seems pretty important to the game but they're both opting to take a backseat. I don't like it.-
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So what you're saying is that I'm wrong?In post 1619, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
nope errant last participation happened before nahdia coming out and as he said I want him to back his reads up. There is hydra conflict reads between what they represents so they won't feel that way obviously about each otherIn post 1617, Cane + Able wrote:
This.In post 1615, rb wrote:I townread Stormblade because of Nahdia, but ABR and Errant's lack of participation makes me wonder.
What if they've decided that Nahdia's doing such a great job they'll just stay out of her way for now? As one of the most townread slots right now their input seems pretty important to the game but they're both opting to take a backseat. I don't like it.
So much this.
and no ABR's town game is not like that
even a single bit to stand down
Ever
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I meant that both Errant + ABR have just now declared their intent to wait until later. I didn't mean that they decided pre/early-game to get out of her way, I meant that I don't like how 2/3 of Stormblade's heads are taking a backseat role when their slot is being townread so heavily.
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this post directed @SongFireIceHydraIn post 1626, rb wrote:I meant that both Errant + ABR have just now declared their intent to wait until later. I didn't mean that they decided pre/early-game to get out of her way, I meant that I don't like how 2/3 of Stormblade's heads are taking a backseat role when their slot is being townread so heavily.
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Oh okay you don't like C+A's acceptance of my thought. Fair enough. I don't know what to think because he's null-read for me. Are you scumreading C+A?
I don't like that C+A was invalidating the value of early game before. Like he just accepts A50's shitty read list because, "it's early so it's expected". Game has to get somewhere somehow, and you can't get out of early-game unless people start to take early-game seriously. I don't see it as a scumtell because the slot is still pushing reads and poking around for information, but I don't townread it either.-
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Don't necessarily relate this to it being a Hydra. Imo it's important that people who are strong townreads in the eyes of many people actually remain active. That I don't like ABR + Errant taking a backseat on a heavy townread slot doesn't have much to do with it being a Hydra.In post 1630, Toogeloo wrote:
This is, and always will be, the issue with all Hydras, not just isolated to this particular case.In post 1626, rb wrote:I meant that both Errant + ABR have just now declared their intent to wait until later. I didn't mean that they decided pre/early-game to get out of her way, I meant that I don't like how 2/3 of Stormblade's heads are taking a backseat role when their slot is being townread so heavily.-
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It's important for re-reads once a few people have flipped though. People pushing/retaliating and stuff is shit for information when you have nothing solid (pre-flip) but it's useful post-flip.In post 1643, Cane + Able wrote:
Early game is shit for information.In post 1635, rb wrote:@IceFire
Oh okay you don't like C+A's acceptance of my thought. Fair enough. I don't know what to think because he's null-read for me. Are you scumreading C+A?
I don't like that C+A was invalidating the value of early game before. Like he just accepts A50's shitty read list because, "it's early so it's expected". Game has to get somewhere somehow, and you can't get out of early-game unless people start to take early-game seriously. I don't see it as a scumtell because the slot is still pushing reads and poking around for information, but I don't townread it either.
That is not a subjective statement. It is not open to interpretation or varying perspectives. It is fact.
So no, I'm not going to get all up in somebody's shit because they have shit reads, nor should anybody else unless they're certain they have the scum team pegged.
Let he who is without sin tie the first noose, yo.
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Why would I vote a slot I currently townread?In post 1645, Toogeloo wrote:
Sure it does. It's townread due to Nahdia, not the other two, so despite dislike of the actions regarding ABR and errant, the slot likely won't have any trouble keeping away from a lynch because people will be hesitant to the townposting on Nahdia's part.In post 1642, rb wrote:That I don't like ABR + Errant taking a backseat on a heavy townread slot doesn't have much to do with it being a Hydra.
All you've done is voiced your dislike, but unless you put action to your words, you're more or less fine with the way it's going as well and will continue to let ABR and errant do their thing.-
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@Dramonic: am I incorrect in saying that your read of Exped as Town is that he's 2dumb4scum? But why is he terrible town as opposed to terrible scum?
@Exped + Wayward: why are you buddying each other so hard? How could your townreads of each other be THAT strong?
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