BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: beeboy
See ya guys D2.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: beeboy
See ya guys D2.

GET BACK HERE!
UNVOTE: Rick and Andrea
VOTE: Sakura Hana

ok

[Sakura Hana]

bee wanted me to watch it last year, is it really bad?

[Sakura Hana]

I am the leader the of this town.

VOTE: Gorkington


~Rick, the Leader

Mental note that if FB is scum, Gork is his partner.

[Sakura Hana]

bee wanted me to watch it last year, is it really bad?

Well if you like random otaku transported into fantasy world where he becomes the hero this fantasy world needs, which slowly turns into a harem and filled with moe, then you might enjoy it! (I say might because even then you have the plot failing completely and the show trying too hard at being ~intellectual~ but it backfires).

The only interesting character was betelgeuse.

I think i'll pass, sounds like SAO

[Sakura Hana]

Wait seriously? you'd be the direct opposite of me then.

[Sakura Hana]

Wouldn't a pressure vote lose it's effect if you say you're pressuring someone just to read them?

[Sakura Hana]

Wouldn't a pressure vote lose it's effect if you say you're pressuring someone just to read them?

Why are you asking this question?

~Rick

Do you not expect a supposed scum Gork to read your post, and react like town Gork?

[Sakura Hana]

Do you not expect a supposed scum Gork to read your post, and react like town Gork?

I don't expect Gork is good at faking town for long if he is scum.
Pressure speeds up the likelihood he would slip if he is scum.

~Rick, The Leader

Dunno, i still dont see the point ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sakura Hana]

It was so quick it seemed planned, but that's about it.

Remember that mental note i said earlier?
It has a reason to be.

Regardless i dont think it's definitive, but me and FB as scum once on a marathon cross bused hard and everyone townread us and lynched themselves.
That was so fun xD

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura I am mixed on you, your first comment gave me a sense that is something you would think as town. Knowing our history, not too unlikely. However your question about Glork pressure seems silly from you.

I kind of expect you as scum to focus on me so that I townread you too.

Want to talk?

~Rick (Fire), the Leader

1) My pressure comment was a rehtoerical question i've always believed it's not good to say you're voting someone out of pressure coz that kinda screws up the reaction test, if you still that can achieve something go ahead, i'll read him in my own way.

2)Wait woot, where did that even come from xD

3)I don't mind but, didn't you just said scum me would focus on you so that you townread me, why are you trying to drag me into a conversation with you if this is supposedly the case?

[Sakura Hana]

As for why I want to drag you into a conversation is that I still think I can read you by those interactions.
Is there anything wrong with us talking?

If that's the case then go ahead and interact with me all you want.

[Sakura Hana]

I just now realized you guys are older than me!

[Sakura Hana]

I dont think FB is scum he seemed like he genuinely was trying to read me.

[Sakura Hana]

Scum FB would know better than to openly invite me into engaging with them.

[Sakura Hana]

I like identifying town I can work with as either alignment. As scum, I am less aggressive until I need to be.

I like using my reverse reading tactic to read you tyvm.
Also apparently im invisible in this game. Knowing you, i'd thought you'd be wanting to sort me first of all.

[Sakura Hana]

i think yoshi might be town.

[Sakura Hana]

Wait Steven is Yume?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh god i already predict a headache.

[Sakura Hana]

Okay, I'll lurk until I get a decent townread.

Just wondering, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being "I care a lot" how much do you care about this game?
-Rem (Ali)

What would you rate if you definitely want to influence the game and win?

Bruh I'm not giving you your answer.
-Rem (Ali)

Okay, I'll lurk until I get a decent townread.

Just wondering, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being "I care a lot" how much do you care about this game?
-Rem (Ali)

What would you rate if you definitely want to influence the game and win?

Prob like 8

[Sakura Hana]

It's okay to be wrong every once in a while. I won't judge you. I was wrong myself, once, a long time ago.

I missed you Majiffy! Posts like these bring a smile to my face.

[Sakura Hana]

We havent played in a long while, so long that i dont even remember which game it was, why do you think im town? @Majiffy

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura don't make me regret town reading you so early

But townreadnig me early is the best way to make me produce alignment relevant content!

Sakura what do you think of SAD?

I think that i dont know why he townreads or scumreads X or Y.

[Sakura Hana]

Granted tho, Spiffy why did YOU townread me early? as far as i can remember you always keep saying that i have a secret motive or something.

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura I thought your interaction with Firebringer seemed like your town self

I also sensed that your initial beeboy vote could have been for ~neighborhood reasons~ which I might have made up

Was that the case?

Oh my vote on beeboy is purely unrelated to this game (for now).
My interactions with firebringer seemed like my town self, because im my town self.

[Sakura Hana]

I dont even know how you were expecitng scum me to respond to that firebringer thing.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you have any scum reads atm?

Not really, i dont feel like putting much effort into the game atm.

[Sakura Hana]

I should probably just sheep Majiffy.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: R&R

[Sakura Hana]

Spiffy's probably town

[Sakura Hana]

Looks like he's just got a stiffy for ya

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe you shouldn't bother arguing with scum.
P-Edit: @SAD

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura why am I scum?

Becuase Majiffy said so

I didnt like your reaction to my sheep, it felt all sorts of OMGUSy

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura why am I scum?

Becuase Majiffy said so

I didnt like your reaction to my sheep, it felt all sorts of OMGUSy

and my reaction to your sheep indicates scummy OMGUS because?
-Ali

Gut feel i got ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I did say I was going to be lazy since i dont feel like putting in effort.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura Hana would be posting less if scum.

Have I played with you before?

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno i got scummy vibes from Vecna's attack on Jiffy.
What has Vecna done in the Neighborhood? @Creature.

[Sakura Hana]

@MoI: I'm not sure about the neighborhood thing they are based on Nucleic Acids, Lipids, Carbohydrates, and Proteins right? Back in Tarot there were also neighborhoods based off elements (Wind, Water, etc) and Cabd mentioned that there could be scum abilities that were dependant on their target's element (granted there was, like one, and a couple of town PRs had that restriction too), and i rather err on the side of caution regarding outing much info because after the neighborhood's are outed all it takes is a scum shot to figure out what type is everyone there.
Why do you think it's a good idea to out that information?

[Sakura Hana]

Scum already know who is in every neighborhood.

Yeah im kinda regreting posting in my hood already.

[Sakura Hana]

Scum already know who is in every neighborhood.

Yeah im kinda regreting posting in my hood already.

Y

As i said in the hood.
It reminds me of Tarot.

[Sakura Hana]

Tarot was designed by different mod.
This was designed by antihero.

I learned setup design from antihero.
It's fine.

-Rick (Fire)

Yeah well ok that game was pretty bastardly i guess
the hood is me, bee, SAD, kuror0 and spiffy unless there's some mysterious player in there.

[Sakura Hana]

Also i will refrain from posting in the hood during the day for the most part, unless i have strong reasons to townread everyone there.

[Sakura Hana]

Also i will refrain from posting in the hood during the day for the most part, unless i have strong reasons to townread everyone there.

Just use it as notepad.
As long as there is one person you townread in there it can't hurt.
Obviously excluding any role related stuff.

-Rick

Don't see the point, why inform 4 ppl of my thoguths when i can just inform everyone.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, sure.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, sure.

^
@ObvTitus

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah that reminds me.

What has Vecna done in the Neighborhood? @Creature.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah, forgot about that, sure.

^
@ObvTitus

If I gave you a compulsive Desperado shot right now, who would you shoot? Why?

>-----------------|> Vecna / RR
RR because of their OMGUSy reaction to my sheep
Vecna coz i got scum vibes from their post against Majiffy.

[Sakura Hana]

You can literally find those 2 explanations on my ISO, dunno what the point of that was.

[Sakura Hana]

You can literally find those 2 explanations on my ISO, dunno what the point of that was.

I want only one name.

Then look at my vote.

[Sakura Hana]

But in case you're lazy, RR.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah that reminds me.

What has Vecna done in the Neighborhood? @Creature.

[Sakura Hana]

What Town motivation do you have to not post and hunt for scum in your PT?

Everyone in the hood is free to post here, and that doesnt imply im not going to scum hunt my neighbors, i just dont see the point of posting for 4 ppl when i can just post for everyone, if there's scum in the hood they'll hear my thoughts, but not everyone in the town will.

[Sakura Hana]

Idgi.

[Sakura Hana]

Thoughts on beeboy, Sakura?

Nothing.
And by nothing i mean i dont see him doing anything.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh right, he attacked titusdra at some point.

[Sakura Hana]

its pretty obviously fake.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean people here often fake dayvigs, masonries, desperado's not out of the question, specially with how she went about it and asked ppl who was dead.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Vecna

[Sakura Hana]

I wish cops weren't a thing.

You still mad about that?

[Sakura Hana]

MoI is making very convincing arguments about SAD, and all SAD does is "You always scumread me"

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: SAD

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno RR seems to have lost votes, and SAD seems to have gained them, what are you doing Titus?

[Sakura Hana]

Who isn't down to vote Titus and why are you that way?

I'll reserve my judgement until Titus decides to finally read my supposedly want to sort early self.

[Sakura Hana]

Why does anyone tr SAD since Vecna won't say anything I don't really get the voice of truth sr

Can you rearticulate this sentence i have trouble reading it.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh look i dropped a tier after voting SAD.
How interesting.

[Sakura Hana]

Why is Vecna a top townread

His posting is super genuine.

I had the opposite impression.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yeah? Well too bad im not playing the way you want me to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sakura Hana]

You're the one who implied something wrong (on why I dropped you a tier) and I corrected you. I don't give a fuck how you play.

ok

[Sakura Hana]

i am now apathetic towards this game

Please dont do this to me.

[Sakura Hana]

This game's starting to get boring.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh wait nvm you have matching avatars well that's just fucky guys

Wait what

[Sakura Hana]

I dont get the refence either way

[Sakura Hana]

I'm starting to think that Titus is town with all the people scumreading her.

[Sakura Hana]

What question?

[Sakura Hana]

That wasnt even directed at you.

[Sakura Hana]

But it's related to this:

I want to sort RA, Beeboy, Sakura, Vecna, MOI.

Then later you asked me if i wanted to dance and gave me a question about a supposed desperado shot.
Since then you seem to have done nothing with the info wrt me.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura's latest posts are really bad btw. Her early ones were super strong I've never seen someone go 180 that fast.

You mean back when i wasnt voting you?

[Sakura Hana]

I am on SAD too and im not moving because he's been changing his stance of me over time ever since my vote on him.
Sorry Jiffy.

[Sakura Hana]

I am on SAD too and im not moving because he's been changing his stance of me over time ever since my vote on him.
Sorry Jiffy.

Seriously?

My read on you has been changing constantly too. It's perfectly natural to have stances change as the game progresses and you should know this. I even agree with him that your posting since early game has gotten notably worse.

Your stance change makes sense, his feels unnatural since it only started happening since my vote on him.

[Sakura Hana]

Also this is weird.
When i wasnt putting any sort of effort and just relaxing my posts were "better"?
How does that even work.
But hey if it's like that I guess now you can see why i dont want to put effort.

[Sakura Hana]

I should probably just go back to relaxing and not putting effort before i end up flipping out on someone.
P-Edit: I dunno, I liked MoI's points about SAD and I voted him, his consecuent deterioring of his read on me felt all sorts of OMGUS, so my vote is now stuck like glue.

[Sakura Hana]

^
See FB this is how you pressure people.
Not saying "Oh im just building pressure to read him"

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe I just read it wrong, and think your being way over condescending, but really.

Sorry, that wasnt my intention, only pointed it out because of what i said earlier this game.

[Sakura Hana]

last (and only) time I played with her (which was a while ago maybe 2013) she was scummy as hell too and generally did a lot of confusing things.

We've played before?

[Sakura Hana]

Well if we only played once in 2013 makes sense me not remembering you.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh god that game's old.

[Sakura Hana]

Like shit, just because someone plays badly doesn't meant they're scum. If that's how things worked around here I would get lynched just about every Day 1.
-Ali

yet you want me dead

[Sakura Hana]

Speaking of that i should probably go back and reread that game SAD linked, of which i have memory of playing but i have no memory of what happened in other than mara being mason or something

[Sakura Hana]

Oh that's the game where i whiteknighted scum all game until i finally caved in and voted them.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Voices

[Sakura Hana]

Hey, let's be real, if I were scum, why would I try scumhunting rather than doing my usual PoE which is easier? I still sometimes scumhunt like this.

I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

Dont make me regret unvoting you.

[Sakura Hana]

FB can be scum too.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh noes, 1 person hopped off the SAD wagon, whatever shall we do.

[Sakura Hana]

Like Titus feels very much like street fighter mafia titus, and you'd be the last person i think wouldnt not see it instead not only you give her a strong townread, but you give a chainsaw defense. LOL.

[Sakura Hana]

I am townreading Creature yes.

[Sakura Hana]

Street Fighter she made up meta reads on players.

Where did she even did that in street fighter.
She just kept pushing Ranger on a bus.

[Sakura Hana]

For someone with "awful posts"
He's done a very good meta assesment of my play and got a very accurate read out of it.
Something no one in this game has even bothered to do, maybe except SAD.

[Sakura Hana]

"Everybody voting me is scum, all scum are on me"

You basically did this early game.
SAD basically did this in this game.

~Rick

This is a pretty big misinterpretation of the events.
P-Edit: Ninja'd

[Sakura Hana]

Now, how the fuck are you TRing Creature?

For someone with "awful posts"
He's done a very good meta assesment of my play and got a very accurate read out of it.
Something no one in this game has even bothered to do, maybe except SAD.

[Sakura Hana]

So he knows you are town and has your meta. Boo hoo.

Meta is hot trash.

Stop giving scum who TR you a pass.

What's the scum motivation of using my meta to TR me when we have never played together? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Sakura Hana]

It feels more like he's legitly trying to read me, unlike CERTAIN ppl that tend to default to scumread me

[Sakura Hana]

i would honestly be shocked if fire was scum here, btw.

ditto.

[Sakura Hana]

I guess i was just mad, but FB scum trolls more.

[Sakura Hana]

didnt BYF went V/LA?

[Sakura Hana]

Hey guys! Little time today and tomorrow, so just as a precautionary:

V/LA until Wednesday

Weekdays are a bit difficult, Tuesdays and Thursdays you can pretty much assume I won't be here. Okay, thanks!

Oh until today.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura Hana - She is a bit too apathetic for me...

What

[Sakura Hana]

Well yeah im not putting effort, but that's not what apathetic means.

[Sakura Hana]

She has several bad posts every single game

FTFY

[Sakura Hana]

I feel like we're back to 2013 or something.

[Sakura Hana]

Most of that had to deal with you not talking to me about stuff and nitpicking parts to focus on.
Which I thought was scum motivated.

As far as i recall the only thing i "nitpicked" was poking fun at you for the pressure thing.

1) How is Titus like Street Fighter here? (You said she was pushing Ranger in that game, but she didn't really do that as far as I remember, she vote parked me all game)

And as far as I remember she was pushing ranger, that was even one of the reasons i was thinking ranger was town, coz up until that game titus had never bused.

2) Why are you ignoring my point about sorting her for a confirm with a night action?

Because you already claimed that you were going to do this makes it useless due to potential roleblock/nightkill and then we still have to sort her.

[Sakura Hana]

Spoiler: Much vote parking, very wow

So nothing strikes me as particularly town from Ranger in isolation, anyone got a condensed reasoning or something? im not sure ill be able to read all 80+ pages before deadline and im pretty sure my vote will be needed somewhere, but i need to verify that there's is some legitimacy to whatever reason she's being voted.

Ranger is a dominant force to be reckoned with and has clear reads as town. She's been lurking here. She's had an illness the last 3 or 4 days (documented site wide) but still missed most of Day 2 when she was fine. She's had zero strong pushes. Plus, my scumreads (Nero/Dunn/fA) are against it.

Yeah one of the things i noticed in Ranger's iso was that it was like 70% reads lists and 30% interaction (made up numbers).
I didnt look at timestamps.
Is there any clear indication that "lurking" is something that she would not do as town?
The "lack of pushing" is something i'd buy.

My hesitation is that i just came here and i have no idea who's actually abusing a situation to generate a ML or genuinely reading someone.

That is my similar concern with the timing but it is an ethical one. I think everyone who plays with town ranger can attest to my statement of her meta (if not scum themselves).

Your slot is also lurking until now. It's fair to say you're making more contribution now. Yet Ranger's lurking is abnormal.

Titus is in this game?
NOw ITS A PARTY <3

(Psst...you're 'not in the game'. >_> <_<)

By the way, since this has been a problem before in games, going to announce it IN ADVANCE this time, before role PMs are sent, so that, this time, people understand that, yes, I say this without alignment bias:
This is a large game.
I'm going to be lurking.
Period. End of discussion.

It wouldn't be an issue if Ranger did things when she was here.

#1 I believe she's not lurking. She's sick. #2 how is her "lurking" any scummier then any of the other "lurkers"?

But I most have a very hard time seeing her wagon get to 8 in like an hour, when both of the PV and Titus wagons sat at 4 for DAYS, and not be full of scum and the scum decided to bus her with NO resistance.

She has not been sick for the entirety of Day 2. During the guilties she was posting in other games.

PV has been actually consistently absent site wide.

P-Edit: AH well guess all that searching was a waste of time.
Beeboy i have literally no idea, as the only experience i have with scum bee is Gistou.
Why do you think Titus is town?

[Sakura Hana]

Also i just realized that quoting like that also deletes the post links (prolly didnt need them anyway), wish there was a better way to quote from a locked thread.
P-Edit: Read the VC right before i replaced in lol.

[Sakura Hana]

Nah it's easy, just click the LF link in the first quote and scroll like 3-4 posts up.

[Sakura Hana]

Even if you are right that Titus bussed Ranger or w/e you are saying. How does that make her scum here?

Like Titus feels very much like street fighter mafia titus

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah i cut the 2nd part out because it's irrelevant since:

I guess i was just mad, but FB scum trolls more.

And to respond to this:

I tell you, no she doesn't feel like Street Fighter at all. How do you think this is like Street Fighter.

The way she's stubbornly pushing SAD.

Do you think she is bussing here?

Don't think so.

[Sakura Hana]

If I had thought Titus was busing i would've stayed on SAD, since it would yield a scum lynch either way, wth was with that question.

[Sakura Hana]

The way she's stubbornly pushing SAD.

ummmm....how many games have you played with Titus?

I dont remember how many but at least 3 that i can remember on my main, and probably 2 or 3 on my alt.

The alignment indicative is how she interacts with people.

Ok, it doesnt look much different from street fighter, but im terrible at THAT kind of meta.

[Sakura Hana]

Maybe i should proceed with my plan of stopping using meta forever.

[Sakura Hana]

The way I talk to her she seems to not like shifting reads when she is scum more.

Uhh hasnt she stayed on SAD almost the entire game?

The other things you mention seem to be more with what she's doing here i guess.

[Sakura Hana]

I hope i dont regret this
VOTE: Vecna

[Sakura Hana]

If she ends up being scum and you're town im never trusting your meta assesments again.

[Sakura Hana]

Talk to me why youre scumreading me.

You clearly haven't been reading my posts then.

[Sakura Hana]

Long time no see.
You should vote Vecna.

[Sakura Hana]

Because he's scum.

[Sakura Hana]

If you dont want to trust my gut MoI explained it better than me in 1480

[Sakura Hana]

So after FB convinces me titus is town Gork starts a crusade against Titus.
I wish someone would teach me how to read Titus already...

[Sakura Hana]

Well then...

If she ends up being scum and you're town im never trusting your meta assesments again.

[Sakura Hana]

Tbh Gork's motivational picture makes me think he's town.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: beeboy

[Sakura Hana]

Don't ask.

[Sakura Hana]

i think we should lynch beeboy

[Sakura Hana]

i think we should lynch beeboy

And how many people are you expecting to join you if this is all you're going to say?

One can only dream.

[Sakura Hana]

Regardless i did say i wasnt going to put effort.

[Sakura Hana]

Beeboy being scum is a very good reason, do you disagree?

[Sakura Hana]

Well can't help you there.

[Sakura Hana]

I'll let that sink in for a momment and let you figure out why what you just said doesnt make any sense.

[Sakura Hana]

@Majiffy: Idk, do you think scum-creature here buddies me instead of ML me?

Opinions on beeboy?

Scum

[Sakura Hana]

Someone wanted scum bee meta? here's the most recent one: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/552912 although it's offsite.
Also that game is why i decided to stop putting effort.

[Sakura Hana]

I don't understand what you're trying to communicate with this post.

That it's easier for scum to ML me than buddy me, specially because it's making him look worse, yet he sticks to his belief that im town.

[Sakura Hana]

Why would it be easier to ML you?

There's not even a wagon on you.

Your argument has no legs.

There would be if every player SRing me decided to vote me.

[Sakura Hana]

Dunno i find it unlikely for creature to just use my meta and TR me like he's doing this game, why go through that trouble when he can just SR me like the others.

[Sakura Hana]

Sigh
I guess i really have trouble explaining myself.
Why do I even bother.

[Sakura Hana]

His effort to read me comes off as genuine, i guess.
I'm really bad at explaining things that come from things i feel from his posts.

[Sakura Hana]

*raises hand*

[Sakura Hana]

Mastina to catch you up here:

Town List: Arthur, Sakura Hana, Vifam, Gorkington, Marquis, Yoshi
Very Likely Town: Voices of Truth, Spiffeh, Rem and Ram, Majiffy
Scum/Unsorted: You, Creature, Vecna, MagnaofIllusion, Ankamius,

~Rick

I don't see Bee on this list.

[Sakura Hana]

But mastina hasnt even posted yet

[Sakura Hana]

Have you ever felt that someone should've been townreading you and they're not? Wouldn't you feel like they're scum pushing your mislynch?

Plenty of times actually.

[Sakura Hana]

Don't remember her ever misreading me as town.

Have you rekt her as scum recently?

[Sakura Hana]

Opinions on beeboy?

He's scum.

[Sakura Hana]

All
these
preflip
VCAs
WHYYY

[Sakura Hana]

I should've probably read the setup info, i didnt even realize that twilight rule.

[Sakura Hana]

I kinda want Sakura to expand on her read on me at some point.
That's kinda one of the reasons I apathetic atm.

Btw this is BS, you were apathetic since way before i voted you.

[Sakura Hana]

I even linked bee's most recent scum game!

[Sakura Hana]

Bee replaces out instead of towning it up.
Well if the replacement is someone i cant read my vote is never moving.

[Sakura Hana]

Who is Beeboy's replacement

No one yet

[Sakura Hana]

Nah I've been able to identify you as town extremely easily before

Me or my alt?
Granted i only remember ever playing with you here 2 times as scum and 1 as town, the town one being EoSD

[Sakura Hana]

Granted there's also a difference between being lazy and apathetic spiffeh i said this before already to someone else :<

[Sakura Hana]

I haven't seen a single reason why an MoI wagon should be happening right now from a town perspective

Wait what.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean it's not like MoI has a lot of posts, you can ISO him fine and form your opinion based on that, but calling him town just because you dont like the people pushing him is kinda weird.

[Sakura Hana]

Actually i dont remember how you hunt, dont mind me then.

[Sakura Hana]

What were you expecitng scum to do

[Sakura Hana]

While everyone argues i'll just stay here voting scum, dont mind me but all this back and forth is tiring and isnt changing my reads a single bit.

[Sakura Hana]

While everyone argues i'll just stay here voting scum, dont mind me but all this back and forth is tiring and isnt changing my reads a single bit.

So aside from Gin what are your reads anyway? The "I'm apathetic and I'll just keep calling a single person scum" routine long ago wore out its welcome.

Townreading you, majiffy, sad, vifam, r&r, titus, r&a, gork, spiffeh, creature.
scumread gin and vecna nullreading ank, byf (down from townread), nahdia

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oh yeah mastina's a nullread too.

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Like where is this suddenly coming from

mostly coz he was like super town at the start and since then he's been doing nothing so the read has deteriorated.

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Soooo he's scummy now for lurking?

If you put it that way i guess?
just because someone looks town at start and then decide to lurk out their read im not going to leave them as townread forever.

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Do you mean to imply that scum is incapable of coming in get townread and then lurk?

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BYF isn't scum for being inactive. Don't put words in my mouth.

that wasn't directed at you.
Unless you're responding to someone else.

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Short of someone going V/LA i hold everyone to the same standard, if they dont keep towning it and that includes being here to town it then the read is going to go stale.

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If you disagree with my read then tell me what has he done RECENTLY to deserve continue being townread.

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Do you see anything he's posted recently that looks scummy?

If i did he'd be a scumread.
But i dont see anything towny one can be genuine about being unable to catch up while being scum.
As i said the read has gone stale.

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But didn't you do a similar thing with beeboy slot? You said you will hold the strong scumread on thr slot even with replacement and said it is very unlikely you will reevaluate. Why don't you use the same logic and have beeboy slot "deserve" being scumread.

beeboy replaced out and beeboy is a player im fairly sure i can read well, BYF is someone i've never played with before. Beeboy being replaced with someone i've never played with makes me trust my read on bee more.

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Beeboy being replaced with someone i've never played with makes me trust my read on bee more.

And by this i mean, if i can read bee well and i dont know the replacement, im not going to let someone who may be good at fooling people as scum muddle that read for me.

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Why?

Keep reading

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Aaand my R6R read just went flip flop.

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Like you have to be kidding me, how do you ignore my scum bee meta evidence and keep bee slot as a strong townread while pushing creature as scum by meta.

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Is the beeboy meta just that him replacing out = him scum?

Nah, it was based on bee's play.

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Anyone not on Creature should either provide a thorough case for R&R or SAD, or vote Creature

Like you have to be kidding me, how do you ignore my scum bee meta evidence and keep bee slot as a strong townread while pushing creature as scum by meta.

VOTE: R&R

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I'm not pushing Creature scum by meta you illiterate twat

i didnt think it was necessary to put both of my quotes since there's a post link, but that's related to my read flip on R&R

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Like i dont care how many scummy arguments you pull related to creature's play, he. doesnt. feel. like. scum. he. feels. like. frustrated. town
Meanwhile, you have people strongarming a mislynch AND IT SHOWS as proven by my quote, and know it, but you're ignoring it because, they are the ones giving you the arguments for Creature to begin with.

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Your arguments were caused by Creature's reactions to R&R's "meta" case iirc, so no.
And the "he's lying about the wagons", Can town not misremember things? is that a scum quality only? As far as i remember everyone's human not god.

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Like if you're town and being pushed in the same way as Creature is, it makes sense to view the whole thing with a bias glasses.

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As i said, i dont really care about your arguments because creature doesnt feel like scum with his posting.
People have pushed very convincing arguments against town me before and it's really saddening when people are driven only by playstyle and not by actual motivation.

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HE LIED ABOUT THEM

EVEN AFTER I SHOWED HIM HE WAS WRONG

THAT'S THE POINT

Seems like you arent even reading my posts then...

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I actually think Creature's motivation is pure survival and is not scumhunting.

What part of "You can lynch me but lynch R&R tomorrow after i flip town" is survival to you.

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It's proof R&R are lying about my meta.

But the argument isn't # of posts it's quality

And your quality lacks

If you're gonna argue that you need to provide that town creature has better quality posts, you know.

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Sigh, you guys just arguing as if you're the gods of scumhunting and only your arguments count is really tiring.

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>He's playing survival
>He doesnt care about being lynched but wants R&R lynched tomorrow after his townflip
>That's called AtE

This is getting tiring, im starting to think that you have confirmation bias at this point, cant you at least look at it from a town Creature PoV instead of treating him like he's a guilty child? TIA

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I am but you're ignoring me.

I am not ignoring you, your post looked like you just have an argument for every possible thing i say anyway.

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I mean sure you listed a bunch of possibilities, but you seem to be ignoring to acknowledge the other side of the fence, the possbilities as for why town him would do it.

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When you start seeing only scum possibilities and fail to acknowledge town is a good indication you have confirmation bias.

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Also as for ANOTHER post you made, i dont think vifam is scum atm, and even if i did, i think lynching vifam would only make D2 a repeat of D1 with this big R&R vs Creature thing.

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Also as for ANOTHER post you made, i dont think vifam is scum atm, and even if i did, i think lynching vifam would only make D2 a repeat of D1 with this big R&R vs Creature thing.

Then why vote my town read? Because you think your meta read is more important?

I never said i had meta argument against R&R?
I just said that they ignored my meta argument for scum bee while continuing to push the meta argument for scum creature.

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Sakura do you actually have a stance on Creature?
If so, point me to it.
If not, what is that stance and why?
-Ali

Are you not reading or what.
I even argued with Majiffy for a while about it

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Why does Creature look like frustrated town to you?
Why doesn't Creature feel like scum with his posting?

Teach me how to explain feelings and i will.

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Like seriously was that supposed to even be a serious question? i've already explained all i can.

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Uh what XD

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But i had already said before that i thought he was town and why, which at the time was because of his read on me.

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Meanwhile you keep pushing this scum creature meta and completely ignore my scum bee meta post while continuing to strongly townread him.

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Yeah Nahdia, it's missing GIFs

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Because he's probably town dealing with this shit

Oh hey cool we're going somewhere.